Thanks, Jymmmmm -- I just ordered four. Ken
I thought it was a great deal!
I just picked one up locally.
I'm installing a shit load of what they call "portable apps" on it right now.
This is the irc client running on the USB. Once I unplug it, there is no residue left on the computer
There's even portable firefox, openoffice, and a whole lot of others too
[00:15:33] <Jymmmm> http://kk.hopto.org:8080/wiki/index.php/Portable_USB_Drive_Apps#Graphics_Tools
[00:15:43] <Jymmmm> http://portableapps.com/apps
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/docs/src/Submakefile: clean up directories left by latex2html
wonder what's wrong with jerry mitchell's parport
the encoder I thought would be simple to trouble shoot. But the stupid thing has a 3 layer circuit board
A-L-P-H-A is now known as a-l-p-h-a
I will probably just put one of the usdigital encoder and sensor into the case - looks like it will fit.
hey look, our mailing list archives are back
wow their interface sure is terrible compared to gmane
cradek: hooray, I guess
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/ (configure configure.in): check for working libGL
hmm.. are there broken libGL's ?
jon elson reported that he got an error linking libGL, even though the header and GLU tests apparently passed
I remember some similar issues regarding some weird place for the libs
I think that was on FC
it wasn't libGL though.. some X lib
[13:55:47] <alex_joni> http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=xlibmesa-gl-dev&version=stable&arch=i386
that says it's in usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so
the Linux standard is for libGL to go in /usr/bin http://oss.sgi.com/projects/ogl-sample/ABI/
then I guess Ubuntu doesn't conform either
alex_joni: and that package does have a copy in usr/lib -- see page 11
oh yeah? but ubuntu works just fine
jepler: I know ;)
but /usr/bin seems odd for a lib
or did you mean /usr/lib
I meant /usr/lib
ok then ;)
yes, /usr/bin/ is a very odd location for a library
configure is nice ;)
too bad elson won't switch from bdi
I think he will eventually
but I must say I understand how he feels about reinstalling working systems
I _should_ reinstall my home machine.. but can't seem to get my things together to do so
it's a ca. 5 years old Win2k install, a breezy (updated to dapper) another dapper all on hdb (about 10 partitions)
Does anyone here have real world experience with stepper cabling, wondering how much difference it makes to have twisted pairs instead of straight (2x2 vs 4x1)
thanks to whoever suggested that I meter the transformers before I hooked them up to the 5v on my stepper drives
the 4v was running at 9v
and the 5v was closer to 7v
depending what it runs under load, you might be able to use a standard +5V regulator (7805 or equivalent) on the one with a 9V output
I suspect the 9V will drop considerabely under load
I suspect it too
if you think you'll use around 100mA of current, then try measuring the voltage with a ~90ohm 1W resistor across it and see how big the drop is
do you have a very old PC power supply (pre-ATX)?
still have an AT somewhere
that might be a good place to get regulated 5V
wall warts are really for charging batteries, they don't make good logic supplies
good to know
well don't take apart a working AT! I meant a spare one
what am I going to power with an AT?
an old 486?
ATX psus are fine to, just bridge the green wire to a black wire and that is your on/off switch
guess I'll just do it right the first time and mount the drives on the side of the case
and run 5v off the psu
Lerneaen_Hydra: how's it going?
how's what going?
or just in general?
just in general
I've got a bit much to do wrt school atm, math and electricity stuff that takes up way too much time. but my electric bike is coming along nicely :D
school can be that way
when is the end of the term?
all I need to do to make a test run (without PWM, a protective case and so on) is some form of attaching the lower gear to the wheel without shearing the spokes off
20th dec or thereabouts
first term in college now, a bit different ;)
how are you jepler?
having one of those weeks where I feel I can't do anything right
but this is a holiday week in the US, I get thursday and friday off ("thanksgiving")
oh, was thanksgiving this late? I seem to remeber it as being a week or so after the start of november
In the US, I think the rule is that it's on the 4th thursday of november.
so it's always fairly late in the month
* Lerneaen_Hydra hasn't had a thanksgiving dinner for a long time
it's the cranberries I like best
ooh, they're really nice
we have a similar berry jam/gel here in sweden, though it's not exactly the same
afaik they're related species
[17:27:50] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccinium_vitis-idaea
lefsa is what I am waiting for - and flat bread
(Mother starts making it around now - until christmas)
Lerneaen_Hydra: I've heard of that berry, but I'm not sure whether I've ever had it.
probably never fresh
jepler: oh, I've never had it fresh myself, it's very common find it in a jam/gel like form
lots of pectin to make it "stiff"
a bit sweeter than the cranberry
IMO the cranberry has a superior taste
Lerneaen_Hydra_ is now known as Lerneaen_Hydra
hey it worked
A quick poll for you all, which cam tool is your favorite and which is your cam of choice for 2D work ?
Lerneaen_Hydra: what's up?
oh, not too much, watching some of that funky japanese stuff
what about you?
I plan on doing the same
[21:36:47] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,3536,klrmly,inukami_.html
it's funny :)
and the review's crap :/
then may dman-gray or something :)
im braindead from drawing parts today :/
seen juuni kokuki?
oh, then something else might be better suited
12 kingdoms :)
did you like it?
yes, I did :)
there isnt much stuff I havent seen :/
Lerneaen_Hydra: seen nhk ni yokoso ?
seen elfen lied and/or shingetsutan tsukihime?
what did you think of them?
do you guys know st'lucy day?
anonimasu: 12-13th december
oh, maybe lucia
[21:41:51] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,3583,iefcng,nhk_ni_yokoso_.html
<-- haha, nice summary
Lerneaen_Hydra: shingetsutan tsukihime is really great, but elfen lied didnt have that great story :)
Lerneaen_Hydra: It's been a long time since I laughed that hard
yeah, that's what I thought too (I liked the unforgiving attidude that elfen lied had)
[21:43:32] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://www.vg.upplandsvasby.se/Bilder/Lucia2005/Stora/3.JPG
<-- lucia in sweden is where people do stuff like that
commonly in schools
* anonimasu nods
ever played quake?
I don't get the ka abbreviation
well, if you've played quake and show a quad rocket into a room with 5 players in a corner.. ;)
the sound that it makes.
oh, yeah, haha
it's a but like "nya" not really related to the sound..
Lerneaen_Hydra: what is it you are going to watch?
I watched the first and second episode of death note just now. it seems to hold some promise actually, but I'm afraid that it will go all NGE :/
hm, it dosent..
though I dont know about the anime, but the manga is great..
oh, nice :D
the story's well covered, so unless they majorly screw up :D
afaik the subbers were pleased with the conversion
at least so far (ep 7 or so)
looks like we scared alex away :p
attack of the otakus
horrid way of putting it, geeks would be more aproperiate
* Lerneaen_Hydra gets a bad mental image when he reads "attack of the *something that looks like tentacles*"
otakus scare me.
yeah.. scary blighters
well laters :)
yeah, going to rest a bit :)
i'm going soon too.
early day tomorrow :/
I'll be back in 20 or so :)
see you tommorrow then
enjoy the show :)
it was lucia
but it seems LH is gone now :)
anyways.. too long a day
good night all
new record high
we sold off the solar cells we had
what are you paid per kWh?
so 51 cents
I suspect thats not the point though
where did you learn how to read graphs?
was asking ChrisSmol
I suspect he learnt in school too
5.14 kWh * 10 cents = 51.4 cents
so 90 cents ish then
now crunch the numbers for 25 years of output
whatever, I suspect the money isnt the point
what was the system cost?
read the front page
Cost: $6,200 (After $3,700 Grants)
I paid $6200, I already got my grant money
so 3% return (ignoring subsidies on capital purchases, assuming 5 kWh a day is typical)
anyway, I presume you are doing it for fun, not money
you should read my installation notes page
discusses the economics
cash wise, investing it in a bank account would be better, but little fun
I'll see a 2x return on the money in 25 years (if I were to live here that long)
so yea, about a 3% return
1.03 ^ 25
after I add 2 more panels and push the inverter closer to its capacity
it'll be closer to 4
i looked into solar for a while. economics-wise, it didn't make sense. especially here in maryland.
* robin_sz nods
* Twingy lives in maryland
doesn't make sense unless you leverage grant money
the energy used in making the cells makes it a dubious "green" option also
Personally, I think solar heating is the way to go
the energy that goes into making them is typically half their lifetime output
assuming they last as long as you hope they last
my water heating costs like $10/mo
doesn't really make sense for me
solar heating makes a lot of sense, direct use of solar energy bypasses low efficency conversions
you heat your hoem for $10 a month?
coo. must be warm in maryland
he's talking water heater
solar water heater
another grant funded project
lately i have been considering a geothermal heat pump
I said "solar heating" ...
ChrisSmol, yeah, we thought of that too as we have the acreage to do it
with what, a radiator?
ChrisSmol, we were thinking of the "brine trench" mehtod
we have a traditional heat pump now, which i don't think is terribly useful here in north central maryland
all electric house here. even the well pump ;-)
* Twingy is in harford county, MD
* ChrisSmol is in carroll county
work for uncle sam?
well, i do for the first 5 months of the year...
Twingy, trench about 200m long, 1m wide, pass chilled brine down a pipe, comes out the other end of the trench at close to 10 degrees ... heat pump the heat out, send it round again
ok, so a lump of your field ends up cool ... stuff happens
no advantage to going down further i guess
you need to get as much area as you can, not too deep or its insultated from the sun etc above
aha. i would have thought deep to get more heat from the interior of the earth
how much energy goes into digging to the center of the earth? :)
fortunately conduction helps us there
i was thinking deeper for more insulation from the cold air above
the 72% bge rate hike has prompted me to put CFL lights everywhere i can.
ChrisSmol, you could be right ... deeper maybe better
aha, but it is verey deep, 15-20 meters
according to this article
so based on the 1995 pricing, about $10k for a system
we'd seen a surface trench type installation, so I hadnt figured on the deep bore idea
wonder what the oeprating costs are
need to do something, considering these higher electric rates
and i don't like to wear sweaters ;-)
anyway, emc related... i finally ordered the steppers and motor mounts and stuff today
we keep the house at 65deg. We go through less than 500 gallons of propane a winter here in WI.
my wife would like to get propane so she could get a gas stove
what do you pay per gallon?
I don't know - the wife takes care of it :)
we're unfortunately a few miles past where natural gas pipes run
although gas makes me nervous
according to the profesionals - My house should have blown up by now (installed my own furnace and air)
a few years ago there was an explosion at a house in westminster. it was vacant. there was a gas leak, and then a spark
destroyed that house, and damaged nearby homes
well - I don't have any close neighbors :)
not for long, anyway
hard to estimate how much of our electric is house and water heating
but a WI winter should be a lot worse than a MD winter ;-)
it has been pretty mild for the last few years
skunkworks, gas is easy if you follow good practice and take care
right >it't not rocket science< :)
infact, the guy who came to hook up our supply remarked on how neat the install was
all gas pipes marked, where it goes through a wall there is 12mm clearance and a plastic piper liner in the hole etc etc
reminds me, must hook the new factory up with piped weld gas.
no more silly bottles on the back of MIG sets for me
must find an old propane bottle to use as a buffer
how many different mixes do you use?
mainly 1 :)
then that works :)
5% co2, 2% 02, 93% ar
oh - expensive
£12 a bottle