03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py: document home-all
Anyone know of an open GIS software? LGPL hopefully...
grass is open
I guess I don't know of any then...
Geospatial Infomation systems.
how on earth can I lose a 2ft^3 piece of equipment in a small room?
well I know how - it was "in the way" so I put it "somewhere"
I 'never' have that problem. Where did I put my 2kw generator?
Night guys. Rough day.
if I look in the same obvious places I've already looked, will it be there now?
its always the last place you look :rimshot
and it's even blue for pete's sake
so what is "it"?
does anyone recall how to shut CIA up for a moment?
you could just kick it
jmkasunich: no, but about the same size - my vibrograph
whats the inverse of /voice?
you'd have to switch to moderated to use voice I think
ban isn't the right answer I don't think
Usage: BAN <mask> [<bantype>], bans everyone matching the mask from the current channel. If they are already on the channel this doesn't kick them (needs chanop
you just have to kick too
you want to kick, but allow to return later
ban might prevent it from returning
A %-ban is a "quiet"
scroll down to "+q (quiet user)": http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
no fair reading the help
he's still here.
we want him still here
I thought you were trying to get rid of him.
we just didn't want him to be spouting messages - jepler just did a commit that touched about a bazillion files
now that the commit is done, the ban is lifted
no worries A-L-P-H-A
sometimes I understand what I'm doing too
A-L-P-H-A, did you see Geographic Resource Analysis Support System
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/rs274ngc/gcodemodule.cc: fix reporting of an error on the first line as an error on a line equal to the number of lines in the previously loaded program
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/rtapi/sim_rtapi.c: keep rtapi_app from going crazy after it was stopped for a long time in the debugger
heh--- thats why realtime code and debuggers don't get along!
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/kinematics/kinematics.h: remove unused stuff
the "fix" is to just forget about all the times the "realtime" code should have been invoked if the wall time changed too much between iterations
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/scripts/.cvsignore: ignore generated file
03jepler 07improved-dpkg * 10emc2/debian/control.in: note additional packages required to build
random question: I have a relay that says it can take 10 amps at 250VAC, any guess as to the current it can safely break at 24VDC? (without the contacts getting all oxidised)
maybe a bit more, since AC loads are usually inductive, and those tend to push sparks better than DC loads
I was thinking that it would be able to break less current becuase AC hits 0V after 20ms, but DC current would let it be able to draw out long arcs
though if it's inductive you have a point
looking at relays (like motor starters), the DC ratings are always much higher than the AC motor ratings
let me check that to be sure
especially for lower voltages
usually a 10A 24VDC can break about 6-7A 250VAC !? iirc
yeah - I'm not seeing AC and DC ratings on my contactors
so if it does 10A 250VAC then 10A 24VDC should be no problem?
the AC/inductive rating is a worst case, basically
my load is inductive, but I'm going to have a freewheeling diode, so it's not applicable
(It's that electric bike I go on about all the time)
Lerneaen_Hydra: why are you going to have a free wheeling diode? how are you going to coast
I plan to either have the motor regeneratively connected or with a diode
If I want to run without the motor (a la typical bike) then I have some locking pins that I can remove in the middle stage of the transmission so the motor doesn't even spin
and some form of PWM control, controlled with a moped-style handle
* logger_emc is logging
I'm feeling lazy .. but here's the log anyways: http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-10-31#T19-14-40
change of name?
and what does "I'm feeling lazy" mean, that it's having connection issues?
no - it's being cute :)
oh, so no real meaning?
SWPadnos: it's on dreamhost now
ooh, no more disconnection issues? (hopefully)
emcboard@dinero - didn't bother looking
really? no more lost connections
that remains to be seen
but it may be better
cvs appears to be working good at least
I see there's an issue with rdf file support
I think linuxcnc.org has had better uptime than alex's site, so I'd expect it to be better ;)
the type isn't set correctly?
SWPadnos: bet it doesn't have better uptime than my box :P
but it's connected to the internet better ;)
probably not, but it seems to have better connectivity ;)
the link (URI) the logger spits is of some odd format
I'm feeling lazy .. but here's the log anyways: http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-10-31#T19-19-26
2006-10-31#T19-19-26 <- that part
hmmm. where is the script?
the files it creates are actually 2006-10-31.txt and .rdf
I'll take a look at it (and see if my nano-knowledge of perl can help) :)
it's a lot more than my femto-knowledge of it ;)
I only know to pico
hmmm - since they're moved anyway, might it make sense to reararnge them into year / month subdirs?
we can do that
and keep the current dir in /emc/ ?
there's still 2 months missing.. I'm still moving stuff ;)
I think so - emc and emc-devel for the dirs, with year/month subdirs
year should suffice I think
maybe, but it's >1000 files per year with html / txt / rdf version
SWPadnos: still easy to open in a browser
especially if you don't know what you're after ;)
and html should go away
true, except that rdf doesn't have the right mime type
I get a download window in Mozilla/Windows instead of a display
I have nfc what it should be ;)
err - instead of a displayed page
it's some sort of xml inside
actually I'd stake out a position in favor of xml, including automatically making things into hyperlinks in the archive
get to work!
* jepler snaps his fingers
yeh - usually it shows up as text with some colors added, with a header saying that there's no description file or some such, so it can't be validated
* SWPadnos jupms to work
jepler: there are some scripts distributed with these rdf's
care to look at them?
not really, no
rm all -html's ;)
I'd lov eto have html files though, if the format could be prettier
you have the rdf's
those would also be better for the bookmarks, since everyone can display html, and they can have anchors
display of the RDF isn't great, in the default browser provided with Ubuntu ...
no, I meant exporting the data from rdf to html shouldn't betoo hard ;)
_if_ you care about that
oh, well there is that ;)
[19:38:34] <alex_joni> http://rhizomik.net/redefer/rdf2html.html
the source view looks nice in FireFox ;)
the rdf are 5-7x as large as the txt?
yeah - here's one line, in RDF format:
<dc:description>Ok, trying now...</dc:description>
oh my god
these logs were the biggest thing I was backing up, but now it's (barely!) the deb repositories
I can't paste three lines right to save my life
seems to me that some form of transparent compression would work nicely
looks like rpm is a FC3 rtai kernel
Jymmm[OFF] is now known as Jymmm
cradek: can you set the backup for incremental only in the log dir? it's not like the logs from 2004 will change much :)
SWPadnos_: unless we go back in time to fix them ;)
oh, let's do that
* Jymmm [insert some smartass humorous comment here]
SWPadnos_: are you ok with the cloak proposed?
Jymmm: want an emc specific cloak? we're making a list ;)
alex_joni: whats the cloak name?
emc/user/jymmm ? .. guess it's open
does supporter imply a donation of money to anyone but me?
hmm.. maybe supporter is not the best name
What?! It's not EnhancedMachineController/supporter/jymmm LOL
it's a moral support ;)
If I change it, might muck up a few things I have access to right now. Better not, but thanks
ok.. then let's leave it like that
I liked evangelist better
even though I wasn't serious when I suggested it, I think it's fitting and a little bit funny
a more secular term would be proponent, but that doesn't really have the same meaning
this is what I had wrote about emc2 in a cnczone thread 'You may have seen me praise the virtues of emc2 in other threads.' :)
maybe we should stick to board member and developer cloaks for now? those are very straightforward
skunkworks: I sure appreciate your emc work on cnczone
skunkworks: it sure saves us the hassle of doing it ourselves
Just remember If I don't know - I ask here. So in effect - your answering the questions anyways ;)
as chris put it: 21:57 < cradek> rayh: I think one way you are qualified to help is to help
is there any way to see what other groups are using for their cloaks?
someone find the right person to ask a particular question.
jepler: random /whois'es
jepler: or use /who #channel
most use group/developer/name and group/member/name
I'm not certain that IRC really functions as topic based help line.
thank you for calling the IRC help line. for help with configuration, press <1>
for general Linux help, press <2>
when is linuxcnc going to have a message board?
similar to cnczone?
you mean forums
I can install them today, but I don't think I will :)
PHPbb is there for forums, I think
yeah, but it seems odd to have one ;)
I guess that is what the user mail list does.
but it would be a bit more convenient I would think.
I think there's mailing list software there as well, but it's more for distribution lists (for ad spamming)
hmmm - there is a discussion list option, separate from distribution lists
err - announcement lists
actually, both announcement lists and discussion lists are useful to us
since it's sign-up only, there can be an announcement list for e.g. new releases, bug fizes, etc.
bug fizes - sounds interesting
sounds like the original bug
waiter: "and who had the bug fizz?"
SWPadnos_: we have an announcement list on joomla
for the users who registered
but I tried not to spam them with new releases info :D
sure - that makes sense
I can set up a discussion list on DH to see what it does for archiving and the like
I can always get rid of it if it doesn't seem to fit our needs
does that mean mailing list?
I think so anyway
SWPadnos_: is it mailman? or some other solution?
lemme set something up and find out ;)
give me a minute
well - the good news is that the list management page has an easy to use "destroy" link :)
sometime soon, lists.linuxcnc.org will be in DNS, the mailing list is email@example.com
any web interface?
yes, and it is mailman
I got the email saying that the list was created, but I can't look up lists.linuxcnc.org yet
good to know
isn't there a command we can use to watch the name propagate?
dig lists.linuxcnc.org +trace
the email says that the DNS propagation could take a day or two
it's been much faster than that before, but who knows
any thing that I have changed regarding dns has alway taken atleast a day.
this is already showing the new record: dig lists.linuxcnc.org @ns1.dreamhost.com
but probably all of us have old information cached at our local nameserver
strangely, I get a timeout with that command, logged into dinero.dreamhost.com ;)
if I knew which number it was in the SOA, I could say how long the cache lasts
linuxcnc.org. 10800 IN SOA ns1.dreamhost.com. hostmaster.dreamhost.com. 2006091502 20590 1800 1814400 14400
ok - 3 hours
well, sometime later I'll let you folks know how it looks
I think it's a mailing list that presents archives in a format similar to a forum
(I'm thinking that http://discussion.dreamhost.com/
uses the same software)
but that could be the forum software - I'm not sure
it's pretty ugly for phpBB ;)
still .. a forum
I was fooled by the discussion.... name :)
cool - this is available now as well: http://www.activecollab.com/
(not suggesting that we use it, it's just kind of cool)
I'm not impressed by the screenshot
too tired to dig into greater detail :)
that could function as a feature / bug tracker
but it may be ugly to do so
cradek: can you check to see if my sourceforge user list is on hold?
I was subscribed a long time ago - but I think our mail server bounced it once.
(it says I am still subscribed
samco at empirescreen dot com ?
yes - :) taken care of.
it's set to receive plain text emails
I'm feeling lazy .. but here's the log anyways: http://126.96.36.199/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-10-31#T22-22-27
skunkworks: the last part is not 100% correct..
but if you change #T22-22-27 with .txt it works
it worked as is this time
cool... probably SWPadnos_ did some magic
* alex_joni heads to bed
good night gents
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/docs/src/hal/comp.lyx: remove references to newinst