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[00:00:15] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-2.18 (2.2.18-rtl3.0) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot2_log.txt
[00:00:21] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-TNG (2.4.18-rtai) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot3_log.txt
[00:23:01] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-Live rc46 (2.4.25-adeos) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot4_log.txt
[00:25:23] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/common/core_sim.hal: changed all sample configs to use .comp type components instead of 'blocks', which is now deprecated. blocks will remain in the codebase until version 2.2 to allow users to convert their configs at their leisure
[00:25:23] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/hexapod-sim/core_sim_6.hal: changed all sample configs to use .comp type components instead of 'blocks', which is now deprecated. blocks will remain in the codebase until version 2.2 to allow users to convert their configs at their leisure
[00:25:24] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/univstep/univstep_load.hal: changed all sample configs to use .comp type components instead of 'blocks', which is now deprecated. blocks will remain in the codebase until version 2.2 to allow users to convert their configs at their leisure
[00:25:27] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/sim/ (servo_sim.hal simulated_limits.hal tripodsim.hal): changed all sample configs to use .comp type components instead of 'blocks', which is now deprecated. blocks will remain in the codebase until version 2.2 to allow users to convert their configs at their leisure
[00:25:31] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/univpwm/ (univpwm_io.hal univpwm_load.hal): changed all sample configs to use .comp type components instead of 'blocks', which is now deprecated. blocks will remain in the codebase until version 2.2 to allow users to convert their configs at their leisure
[00:25:36] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/nist-lathe/nist-lathe.hal: changed all sample configs to use .comp type components instead of 'blocks', which is now deprecated. blocks will remain in the codebase until version 2.2 to allow users to convert their configs at their leisure
[00:25:42] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/etch-servo/etch.hal: changed all sample configs to use .comp type components instead of 'blocks', which is now deprecated. blocks will remain in the codebase until version 2.2 to allow users to convert their configs at their leisure
[00:25:45] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/max/max.hal: changed all sample configs to use .comp type components instead of 'blocks', which is now deprecated. blocks will remain in the codebase until version 2.2 to allow users to convert their configs at their leisure
[00:25:51] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/ppmc/ (ppmc_io.hal ppmc_load.hal): changed all sample configs to use .comp type components instead of 'blocks', which is now deprecated. blocks will remain in the codebase until version 2.2 to allow users to convert their configs at their leisure
[00:25:55] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/stepper-xyza/stepper_xyza.hal: changed all sample configs to use .comp type components instead of 'blocks', which is now deprecated. blocks will remain in the codebase until version 2.2 to allow users to convert their configs at their leisure
[00:26:01] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/demo_mazak/demo_mazak.hal: changed all sample configs to use .comp type components instead of 'blocks', which is now deprecated. blocks will remain in the codebase until version 2.2 to allow users to convert their configs at their leisure
[00:26:05] <CIA-8> 03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/dallur-thc/dallur-advanced.hal: changed all sample configs to use .comp type components instead of 'blocks', which is now deprecated. blocks will remain in the codebase until version 2.2 to allow users to convert their configs at their leisure
[00:26:56] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-2.18 (2.2.18-rtl3.0) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot2_log.txt
[00:26:56] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-TNG (2.4.18-rtai) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot3_log.txt
[00:27:06] <jmkasunich> yeah, I know... STFU
[00:32:22] <Jymmm> * Jymmm snickers *
[00:35:15] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Line 111 has a declaration of: PROCEDURE Check_Grid(VAR g:grid; VAR error:boolean); is the type grid in pascal or made up here?
[00:37:33] <Jymmm> oh! nm.
[00:49:31] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-Live rc46 (2.4.25-adeos) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot4_log.txt
[00:58:48] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/components/Submakefile: attempt to give the right path when building comp-modules on pre-kbuild systems
[01:03:29] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-2.18 (2.2.18-rtl3.0) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot2_log.txt
[01:03:44] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-TNG (2.4.18-rtai) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot3_log.txt
[01:16:22] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-Live rc46 (2.4.25-adeos) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot4_log.txt
[01:50:48] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-Live rc46 (2.4.25-adeos) * 10emc2head/: build PASSED
[02:40:09] <K`zan> Someone gave me a name that ?visits? here who uses Synergy and I can't find where I wrote it down :-(. Anyone remember who that is?
[02:40:23] <jepler> dave-e maybe?
[02:45:08] <K`zan> jepler: Dunno :-). Installed stickynotes so this time I won't loose it.
[02:47:31] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-2.18 (2.2.18-rtl3.0) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot2_log.txt
[02:48:34] <K`zan> Wish I could figure out how to get the mill two point area to mill the 2 point area and not overlap the desired area no matter how I try to fake it out. Odd..
[02:48:56] <K`zan> Fun though :-) if occasionally frustrating.
[02:54:41] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-2.18 (2.2.18-rtl3.0) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot2_log.txt
[03:11:35] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-TNG (2.4.18-rtai) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot3_log.txt
[03:29:28] <jmkasunich> jmkasunich is now known as jmk_away
[03:41:42] <steve_stallings> steve_stallings is now known as steves_logging
[04:19:38] <ejholmgren> have you tried going between the legs or behind the back?
[04:37:18] <K`zan> Me? Yep, tried all sorts of work arounds, it always comes out somewhere else, ends on the line desired, but I can't get it to start on the desired line, kind of out of ideas. 3 separate single mill passes do the job but take a LOT longer.
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[08:11:45] <Equinox> JYMMM YOU SILLY HYPER FAGGOTASS
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[08:11:50] <borked> Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT
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[08:11:54] <kripple> Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE
[08:11:55] <Equinox> JYMMM YOU SILLY HYPER FAGGOTASS
[08:11:56] <borked> Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT
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[08:11:59] <borked> Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT
[08:12:00] <kripple> Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE
[08:12:00] <Equinox> JYMMM YOU SILLY HYPER FAGGOTASS
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[08:12:06] <kripple> Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE
[08:12:07] <Equinox> JYMMM YOU SILLY HYPER FAGGOTASS
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[08:12:31] <Equinox> JYMMM YOU SILLY HYPER FAGGOTASS
[08:12:33] <borked> Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT
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[08:12:35] <kripple> THERE SURE ARE A LOT OF PHP FAGGOTS IN HERE LIKE: Equinox faggro logger_aj Jymmmm Twingy ValarQ Ephexis LawrenceG anonimasu harty Nick001 skunkworksemc ejholmgren robin_sz SWPadnos steves_logging jmk_away CIA-8 ccjoe alex_joni tfmacz bill20r3 @ChanServ cradek jepler
[08:12:36] <borked> Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS. Jymmmm SURE IS A CUNT FAGGOT. I WONDER WHAT
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[08:12:59] <Equinox> JYMMM YOU SILLY HYPER FAGGOTASS
[08:13:01] <Equinox> JYMMM YOU SILLY HYPER FAGGOTASS
[08:13:04] <Equinox> JYMMM YOU SILLY HYPER FAGGOTASS
[08:13:27] <alex_joni> alex_joni has kicked Equinox from #emc
[08:13:44] <alex_joni> alex_joni has kicked Equinox from #emc
[08:13:56] <Jymmmm> try again
[08:14:12] <alex_joni> alex_joni has kicked Equinox from #emc
[08:14:30] <alex_joni> Jymmmm: finally figured out the ban I hope :)
[08:14:42] <Jymmmm> whos Nick001?
[08:14:52] <Jymmmm> yeah some dumbass from ##php
[08:15:46] <Jymmmm> alex_joni: whois Nick001 ?
[08:15:52] <alex_joni> no idea
[08:15:56] <alex_joni> alex_joni has kicked Nick001 from #emc
[08:16:06] <alex_joni> no-one anymore :)
[08:16:10] <Jymmmm> lol
[08:16:36] <Jymmmm> I'll live the op on for a while, this is a suck client I'm using.
[09:33:15] <Jymmmm> hola
[09:33:21] <alex_joni> hola
[09:33:25] <alex_joni> works now :)
[09:33:25] <Jymmmm> copy cat
[09:33:36] <alex_joni> anyone ever worked with nut? network ups tools ? (http://www.networkupstools.org/)
[09:33:40] <Jymmmm> I +m the channel when that dumbass was in here
[09:33:45] <alex_joni> right..
[09:33:52] <Jymmmm> I THOUGHT I turned it off.
[09:34:07] <alex_joni> seems you only turned off +i
[09:35:06] <Jymmmm> all better now =)
[09:35:10] <alex_joni> right
[09:35:52] <Jymmmm> another 90 minutes to go, the I have a date with a pillow =)
[09:37:52] <Jymmmm> speak WOOF!
[09:38:05] <alex_joni> :(
[09:38:09] <alex_joni> :)
[09:41:04] <Lerneaen_Hydra> 'lo
[09:47:17] <Jymmmm> lo
[10:01:37] <alex_joni> 'lo
[10:31:47] <ValarQ> hello mr Joni
[11:50:27] <Bo^Dick> question: what can the gecko 201 do that the A3986 can't?
[11:52:48] <alex_joni> it goes to higher voltages
[11:53:39] <alex_joni> the gecko I mean.. up to 60V or 80V can't remember
[11:57:10] <alex_joni> Bo^Dick: you probably have seen this
[11:57:11] <alex_joni> http://www.2a.pl/~mark/cnc/a3986/ster3986-07_sch.png
[11:58:10] <skunkworks> That is the guy from poland isn't it.
[11:59:47] <alex_joni> probably
[11:59:49] <alex_joni> hi samco
[12:00:16] <Bo^Dick> that is a nice design, with optocouplers and everything!
[12:01:24] <anonimasu> *yawns*
[12:02:05] <Bo^Dick> i wonder what that design would cost to build
[12:02:37] <anonimasu> finally on the way home :)
[12:03:59] <alex_joni> Bo^Dick: depends how you build it
[12:04:15] <alex_joni> if you start to make a PCB & everything, it will probably cost up to 60$ including parts
[12:04:28] <alex_joni> at least for the first one
[12:08:23] <alex_joni> logger_aj: bookmark
[12:08:23] <alex_joni> I'm feeling lazy .. but here's the log anyways: http://81.196.65.201/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-10-16#T12-08-23
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[12:10:10] <Bo^Dick> yeez! 60$ in part costs
[12:10:24] <Bo^Dick> the A3986 gotta be pricey then
[12:27:37] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/Submakefile: older versions of sed appear to require a semicolon here
[12:27:38] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/Submakefile: older versions of sed appear to require a semicolon here
[12:33:08] <skunkworks> Hi Alex
[12:34:20] <skunkworks> jepler: thanks for the help with the csv this weekend. It just wasn't making sense to me. :)
[12:44:27] <alex_joni> Bo^Dick: I said up to 60$ including the parts (so maybe 20$ parts, and the rest PCB and assembly and whatever still comes up)
[12:45:04] <jepler> skunkworks: csv?
[12:45:10] <alex_joni> cvs?
[12:51:08] <alex_joni> argh.. burned my finger doing some TIG :)
[13:10:47] <skunkworks> cvs yes :)
[13:15:50] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-2.18 (2.2.18-rtl3.0) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot2_log.txt
[13:20:37] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/extensions/emcmodule.cc: if GL/gl.h isn't available, disable the position logger
[13:22:36] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-TNG (2.4.18-rtai) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot3_log.txt
[13:24:30] <skunkworks> Jepler: the sim-axis seems to run faster in head than in the released. But that is just my observation. :)
[13:25:00] <skunkworks> (smoother)
[13:25:03] <jepler> skunkworks: in the released version, sim-axis uses a 50uS base period. In HEAD it doesn't.
[13:25:15] <jepler> of course, there have been changes in axis as well, maybe some of them improved performance
[13:35:06] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-2.18 (2.2.18-rtl3.0) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot2_log.txt
[13:36:09] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/extensions/emcmodule.cc: mutex is only used by the logger, move it into the ifdef
[13:39:15] <jmk_away> jmk_away is now known as jmkasunich
[13:41:16] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-TNG (2.4.18-rtai) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot3_log.txt
[13:49:16] <CIA-8> 03compile-farm 07BDI-2.18 (2.2.18-rtl3.0) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot2_log.txt
[13:50:12] <skunkworks> jepler: Can dxf files be imported in directly to axis now? (looking at the axis ini in the sim)
[13:50:56] <jmkasunich> jmkasunich is now known as jmk_away
[13:51:19] <SWPadnos> if you have a translation filter, you can tell axis to run it and load the result
[13:51:30] <SWPadnos> (for any file type you want)
[13:51:47] <jepler> skunkworks: there's not an included filter for dxf files
[13:51:47] <alex_joni> like ACE maybe
[13:52:26] <alex_joni> logger will be down for half an hour, replacing an UPS
[13:55:48] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/ (configure.in configure): Make sure that GLUquadrics work -- if not, disable AXIS
[13:56:12] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/Submakefile: when not building axis, don't build minigl, seticon, or togl
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[14:35:35] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> woo
[14:35:40] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> logger_aj: bookmark
[14:35:40] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> I'm feeling lazy .. but here's the log anyways: http://81.196.65.201/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2006-10-16#T14-35-40
[14:35:41] <alex_joni> woo?
[14:35:50] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> alex & logger aj are back
[14:35:53] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> woo as in yay
[14:36:24] <alex_joni> heh
[14:38:25] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> looks like I a lot...
[14:38:42] <Lerneaen_Hydra_> s/I/I missed
[14:40:25] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/sim/axis.ini: since there's no included dxf converter, don't put this in the sample config
[14:41:28] <skunkworks> :)
[14:41:58] <acemi> I get the following output when I compile EMC2/HEAD -> http://pastebin.ca/205084
[14:42:08] <acemi> /usr/include/asm-i486/bitops.h:244: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘int’
[14:45:21] <jepler> can you pastebin the contents of bitops.h too?
[14:47:14] <acemi> http://pastebin.ca/205090
[14:48:12] <jepler> static __always_inline int constant_test_bit(int nr, const volatile unsigned long *addr)
[14:48:38] <jepler> on your system, __always_inline is referred to by this header file but is not defined
[14:48:45] <jepler> can you determine what header file defines __always_inline?
[14:49:30] <jepler> on my system, bitops.h doesn't have __always_inline
[14:49:33] <SWPadnos> what kernel version?
[14:49:42] <acemi> 2.6.17
[14:49:47] <acemi> in Debain Etch
[14:49:58] <SWPadnos> include/linux/compiler.h
[14:50:09] <SWPadnos> or compil;er-gcc3.h or compiler-gcc4.h
[14:50:12] <SWPadnos> -;
[14:50:35] <jepler> this is near the top of that file: #include <linux/compiler.h>
[14:51:08] <SWPadnos> right, and compiler.h should include the correct gcc[34].h
[14:51:48] <SWPadnos> make headers?http://lxr.linux.no/ident?i=__always_inline
[14:51:57] <SWPadnos> oops - http://lxr.linux.no/ident?i=__always_inline
[14:52:27] <jepler> but this is about the copy of the headers in /usr/include which may differ from the kernel headers
[14:52:35] <SWPadnos> indeed it may
[14:53:36] <jepler> acemi: did this stop working after a "cvs up", or after changing some other files on your system?
[14:53:57] <acemi> I think after aptget upgrade
[14:54:44] <jepler> does this file compile with "gcc -c testbitops.c" ?
[14:54:44] <jepler> #include <asm/bitops.h>
[14:54:45] <jepler> int main(void) { return 0; }
[14:55:55] <acemi> no
[14:56:01] <acemi> /usr/include/asm-i486/bitops.h:244: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘int’
[14:57:54] <acemi> I did "cvs up" too today
[14:58:12] <jepler> if that two-line file doesn't compile, then it's a bug in your <asm/bitops.h> header
[14:58:41] <alex_joni> * alex_joni cries
[14:58:46] <alex_joni> NUT is really complex
[14:59:06] <jepler> alex_joni: what's NUT?
[14:59:20] <alex_joni> Network UPS tools or something
[14:59:29] <alex_joni> http://www.networkupstools.org/
[14:59:50] <alex_joni> I'm trying to set up something like this: http://www.networkupstools.org/features/advanced.png
[15:00:21] <SWPadnos> the orange-ish lines with lightning bolts are power connections?
[15:00:38] <alex_joni> yes
[15:01:25] <SWPadnos> I'd need a bigger UPS to use that many computers on one :)
[15:01:33] <alex_joni> this one's a 2000VA
[15:01:39] <alex_joni> but it only has 2 PC's on it
[15:01:42] <SWPadnos> that's bigger than my 750's
[15:01:59] <alex_joni> the last one was a 500VA
[15:02:09] <alex_joni> and it blew on the 3rd attempt to run on batteries :D
[15:02:25] <SWPadnos> presumably you have looked over the documentation here: http://fedoranews.org/contributors/kazutoshi_morioka/nut/
[15:02:41] <SWPadnos> (and/or other places)
[15:03:46] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: I'm reading through the README.debian right now :)
[15:03:54] <SWPadnos> heh - ok then :)
[15:03:56] <alex_joni> and some 5-6 manpages
[15:04:15] <SWPadnos> the rights thing looked interesting, but may be a fedore issue
[15:04:19] <SWPadnos> fedora
[15:04:38] <alex_joni> it's the same for deb
[15:27:18] <alex_joni> yay
[15:27:22] <alex_joni> it's working :)
[15:27:38] <SWPadnos> oh good. I was trying to decide if that was a mistake ;)
[15:27:45] <alex_joni> no, that was a test :)
[15:27:54] <alex_joni> you can issue a batt low simulation
[15:28:00] <SWPadnos> cool
[15:28:05] <alex_joni> and it shuts down all my machines, then powers down the UPS too
[15:28:06] <alex_joni> :D
[15:28:13] <SWPadnos> nice, I think ;)
[15:28:23] <alex_joni> yeah, hope I'll never touch this again
[15:28:36] <SWPadnos> is there a "shut off in X minutes/seconds" command to the UPS?
[15:28:58] <SWPadnos> * SWPadnos wonders how the computer can shut off the UPS after the computer has been shut down
[15:30:30] <cradek> with ext3 I don't bother, I just use the UPS to live through very short outages
[15:30:43] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/Makefile: provide a way to build preprocessed versions of source files
[15:31:08] <SWPadnos> yeah - I'd configure some sort of timeout - shut down computer #1 after 10 minutes, #2 after 15, and the master after 20 (or at some battery level)
[15:31:34] <jepler> you can now issue commands like: make emc/usr_intf/axis/extensions/emcmodule.ii hal/hal_lib.i
[15:31:38] <jepler> and inspect the preprocessed source
[15:31:46] <cradek> nice
[15:31:48] <acemi> my bitops problem is solved after downgrade linux-kernel-header-package
[15:31:49] <jepler> this doesn't work for kernel modules, however
[15:31:55] <acemi> bye
[15:31:59] <jepler> see you acemi
[15:32:49] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: you can do all that
[15:33:09] <alex_joni> and yes, it has a timed shutdown for the UPS
[15:33:26] <alex_joni> nuff UPS for today.. running out of power myself, need to grab a byte
[15:33:26] <alex_joni> later
[15:33:29] <SWPadnos> ah - that makes things easier (as long as the final sync doesn't take too long :) )
[15:33:32] <SWPadnos> see ya
[15:33:37] <alex_joni> s/byte/bite/ ;)
[15:33:47] <SWPadnos> heh
[15:50:06] <A-L-P-H-A> does http://74.118.200.224 work for you people?
[15:50:32] <SWPadnos> yes
[15:50:33] <jepler> error:
[15:50:34] <jepler> Tk_DestroyWindow(tvPtr->tkwin);
[15:50:36] <jepler> oops
[15:50:40] <A-L-P-H-A> SWPadnos: , thanks.
[15:50:48] <SWPadnos> sure
[15:54:31] <skunkworks> I love that I don't have to use insulated screws with this mosfet package.
[15:55:41] <cradek> skunkworks: what mosfets are you using?
[15:57:21] <skunkworks> cradek: http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/FD/FDH44N50.pdf
[15:57:44] <skunkworks> I have mica insulators coming.
[15:58:13] <cradek> wow, .12 ohm is low
[15:58:24] <skunkworks> actually - high.
[15:58:39] <SWPadnos> 0.03 is good, 0.01 or lower is low ;)
[15:58:40] <cradek> really
[15:58:57] <SWPadnos> but it depends on the voltage rating
[15:58:57] <skunkworks> I will only be able to get around 20a before the power disapation is too high
[15:59:10] <cradek> ah I see
[15:59:14] <skunkworks> I got schooled by jmk :)
[15:59:26] <cradek> I bothered him about mosfets yesterday too
[15:59:59] <cradek> I'm trying to fix a monitor that keeps popping one and it seems the exact part isn't available
[16:00:26] <cradek> so if I knew something about them I could pick a good substitute...
[16:01:08] <skunkworks> yah - I just assumed 44 amps was 44 amps :)
[16:02:01] <cradek> yeah I can see where you might make that ... mistake
[16:02:35] <skunkworks> but the package can take 44a if the case temp is 70deg f
[16:03:13] <skunkworks> do you want one of these to try?
[16:03:28] <skunkworks> I have 44 of them :)
[16:03:48] <cradek> thank you, but I think the 500v is too low, need 600 or 650
[16:03:49] <skunkworks> what kind of specs do you need?
[16:03:53] <skunkworks> ah
[16:04:31] <cradek> I ordered 6 of a part that might be an ok replacement
[16:04:47] <skunkworks> crt?
[16:04:51] <cradek> but I don't have high hopes...
[16:04:58] <cradek> yeah
[16:05:11] <skunkworks> horizontal output?
[16:05:18] <cradek> an extremely nice 21" monitor
[16:05:30] <cradek> no not the HOT, it's the flyback drive
[16:05:47] <cradek> hope the flyback isn't bad, but it might be
[16:06:26] <skunkworks> jeimco(sp) used to have a decent selection of flyback transformers.
[16:06:39] <cradek> I'll keep that in mind
[16:06:44] <cradek> hey I should check there for the mosfet
[16:07:34] <cradek> you fix monitors too?
[16:07:51] <SWPadnos> skunkworks, you can get a similar transistor with a higher current rating (in the same package), and it will have a lower on resistance
[16:08:39] <SWPadnos> the downside is that the switching time may go up (the junction needs to be larger for the added current, which increases capacitance, which decreases switch speed)
[16:10:10] <cradek> skunkworks: http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/1100DF-CF21G.pdf
[16:10:13] <skunkworks> It seems to be a voltage thing - Lower voltage - lower rds. I figure if I need more - I will be able to find a better mosfet to fit.
[16:10:23] <cradek> page 66, Q504
[16:10:42] <SWPadnos> yes, for a given current, lower voltage will give lower Rds(on)
[16:11:13] <SWPadnos> for a given voltage, higher current results in lower Rds(on), since the ratings are limited by thermal issues
[16:11:15] <cradek> (by the pink 12)
[16:11:23] <skunkworks> If this works as well as I hope - I have no quams buying some better fitting mosfet.
[16:11:42] <SWPadnos> what's the actual current you want it to supply?
[16:11:51] <SWPadnos> and the actual voltage
[16:13:14] <cradek> * cradek drops a schematic into the middle of a bunch of smart EEs and crosses his fingers
[16:13:40] <SWPadnos> looks like a 2SK2761-10MR to me ;)
[16:14:29] <cradek> I actually had one spare, and put it in after testing all the nearby parts (Q502 was popped too) and it ran but lasted about 1 second
[16:15:04] <cradek> and R511 on the gate was overheated and read about 4ohm, I replaced it first too
[16:17:03] <cradek> the only one I wasn't sure about was R512 which my meter couldn't test, I'll pull it out and test it with a power source (measure V/I)
[16:18:10] <SWPadnos> if only I were any good at analyzing circuits (or just discerning their purpose :) )
[16:18:23] <cradek> me too
[16:18:45] <cradek> that IC501 is a switching regulator thingy and I think R512 is a current sense to give it feedback
[16:19:28] <cradek> so I think a bad R512 could sure be the problem, since other things around there were messed up
[16:19:34] <cradek> that's my current hope anyway
[16:19:54] <SWPadnos> yep. that's a reasonable guess. also connections to ground
[16:20:02] <SWPadnos> the EY501... are test points?
[16:20:17] <cradek> I have not figured out what those are
[16:20:47] <cradek> but they are marked on the pcb so I suppose that's a good guess
[16:21:25] <cradek> well I have 6 chances to find the problem :-)
[16:21:36] <SWPadnos> heh
[16:21:40] <cradek> assuming the fets I ordered work at all
[16:21:59] <SWPadnos> have you checked the various waveforms at those test points?
[16:22:25] <cradek> I've fixed everything up to #12 there and it hasn't run long enough to get a good reading
[16:23:01] <cradek> for the one second it ran, it did look something like the #12 picture
[16:23:16] <cradek> pretty much, I saw something squarish, then it popped
[16:23:39] <SWPadnos> hmmm. I'm actually having a polarity problem
[16:23:51] <SWPadnos> I can't see how current can flow through Q502 or Q503
[16:23:56] <cradek> with that fet out, its gate signal looks about right
[16:24:40] <cradek> the arrows are wrong - top one's the npn
[16:24:49] <SWPadnos> right - thank you
[16:26:00] <cradek> the main electrolytic (400v) has the polarity marked backwards on the pcb
[16:26:07] <SWPadnos> oh great
[16:26:14] <cradek> have to be really careful with this stuff.
[16:26:23] <ejholmgren1> does anyone know if the properties of black and white delrin are the same?
[16:26:25] <SWPadnos> why, just because it can kill you?
[16:26:36] <SWPadnos> they shuold be, the black is just dyed
[16:26:39] <cradek> yeah that's one reason
[16:27:42] <cradek> SWPadnos: I got a new IC501 for good measure too (50 cents)
[16:27:54] <SWPadnos> ah, good.
[16:28:02] <cradek> but I'm afraid the problem is probably to the right
[16:28:05] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: know of any JTAG analysers around?
[16:28:11] <alex_joni> preferably OSS software?
[16:28:15] <cradek> "here be dragons"
[16:29:02] <SWPadnos> I'd also think about the other components that are in the current path of Q504, like D522, R527, C507, and R502
[16:29:15] <SWPadnos> (at least, if R512 is blown)
[16:29:56] <cradek> I did check D522 R527
[16:30:00] <SWPadnos> then there's the high side to contend with ;)
[16:30:23] <cradek> think I checked D505
[16:30:38] <cradek> probably not D507 C511
[16:30:52] <cradek> I bet C511 is very important
[16:31:19] <cradek> and I have no idea what BD532 is
[16:31:53] <SWPadnos> Big Doohickey
[16:32:20] <alex_joni> * alex_joni prods SWPadnos
[16:32:25] <SWPadnos> ow
[16:32:31] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: know of any JTAG analysers around?
[16:32:41] <SWPadnos> analyzers, not really. interfaces, yes
[16:33:09] <cradek> http://openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/ ?
[16:34:05] <cradek> as if you didn't try typing JTAG into google...
[16:34:07] <SWPadnos> ie, I know of several JTAG interfaces, but not a piece of qequipment that you'd use if you were designing a JTAG device
[16:34:37] <alex_joni> actually debugging not designing
[16:34:48] <SWPadnos> holy cow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRRDzFROMx0
[16:36:02] <anonimasu> *yawn*
[16:38:55] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: nice
[16:39:02] <SWPadnos> yeah, interesting
[16:42:49] <jepler> I don't know how you could prove that a particular method was used to erect stonehenge
[16:43:39] <cradek> his method for moving the rocks may leave some physical evidence
[16:43:44] <SWPadnos> you couldn't (without time travel), but it is plausible, which is interesting
[16:43:54] <alex_joni> and I bet it doesn't work well on grass or soft soil
[16:44:06] <cradek> no, not at all
[16:44:10] <alex_joni> at least not by using small rocks:)
[16:53:15] <skunkworks> cradek: nothing to add. Looks like you guys have figured out what to check.
[16:54:24] <skunkworks> Keep an eye out for cold solderjoints also - exp on bigger componants (flyback - heatskinks)
[16:58:27] <skunkworks> father has one 300 line encoder coming so far. should be fun :)
[16:59:47] <ejholmgren1> don't have sound on my work computer
[16:59:52] <ejholmgren1> what were the childrens for?
[17:00:01] <ejholmgren1> I thought he was going to fling them
[17:00:06] <SWPadnos> just observers :)
[17:00:20] <SWPadnos> (they're his grandkids, he probably wouldn't fling them)
[17:00:24] <ejholmgren1> true
[17:00:44] <ejholmgren1> would have been pretty sweet if he'd used them as the ballast
[17:00:50] <ejholmgren1> they could just run back an forth
[17:01:07] <ejholmgren1> instead of carrying cement blocks
[17:01:46] <SWPadnos> yeah, I thought of that as well - just have a team of 12 people instead of one guy moving concrete
[17:02:06] <SWPadnos> I'm sure the druids could have convinced several people to help
[17:02:24] <skunkworks> he made comments on how he had knocked him self out before... So I don't think he wants to put people in harms way. :)
[17:02:46] <SWPadnos> heh. the druids wouldn't have cared about that ;)
[17:05:25] <Lerneaen_Hydra__> Lerneaen_Hydra__ is now known as Lerneaen_Hydra
[17:08:07] <alex_joni> hmm.. TIG is a good method to get rid of fingerprints
[17:12:46] <skunkworks> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=207372#post207372
[17:13:17] <skunkworks> and on a lighter note http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25808
[17:14:26] <alex_joni> re the last: if he can patch the kernel a few times .. sure
[17:15:03] <skunkworks> would he have to - to run the new sim?
[17:18:01] <alex_joni> without RT .. sure
[17:18:08] <alex_joni> but not sure what the use of it would be
[17:18:30] <skunkworks> right
[17:18:58] <SWPadnos> I suspect that the XBox might suffer from integrated video problems ;)
[17:19:33] <skunkworks> another good point :)
[17:21:13] <alex_joni> SWPadnos: somehow I doubt they use share memory for integrated video
[17:21:55] <SWPadnos> unknown, but I bet they put the video interrupts on a high priority
[18:07:36] <anonimasu> alex_joni: ^_^
[18:18:21] <alex_joni> anonimasu: ?
[18:31:58] <anonimasu> alex_joni: 17:16 < alex_joni> hmm.. TIG is a good method to get rid of fingerprints
[18:32:34] <alex_joni> anonimasu: especially if you can't remember what end of the filler wire you just melted :D
[18:33:00] <anonimasu> even more if you put a uncooled torch aginst your clothes..
[18:33:02] <anonimasu> :)
[18:33:20] <anonimasu> lying in your lap ;)
[18:33:33] <alex_joni> eek
[18:33:53] <alex_joni> hmm.. I love my new flash :D
[18:34:17] <anonimasu> brb
[18:34:18] <anonimasu> sauna
[18:34:36] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/scripts/emc-environment.in:
[18:34:36] <CIA-8> bash version 2.05b.0(1) (redhat) doesn't like '-o plusdirs', but '-o dirnames'
[18:34:36] <CIA-8> is nearly as good
[19:00:06] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2006/10/tvonhead.jpg <-- the latest and greatest in VR-technology
[19:12:27] <PupUser85e104> PupUser85e104 is now known as pier_puppy
[19:41:15] <skunkworks> LawrenceG: where you wondering about the big h-bridge?
[19:54:36] <Lerneaen_Hydra> are there any bicycle people here?
[19:55:31] <Lerneaen_Hydra> anyone know if getting loose gears with ratios of around 11:1 or 12:1 is hard?
[20:13:06] <robin_z> bycycle gears ...
[20:13:20] <robin_z> 52 is he largest standard main chainwheel
[20:13:35] <robin_z> 12 is the typiclal smallest rear cog
[20:13:42] <Lerneaen_Hydra> hmm, would it be hard to find larger than 52?
[20:13:54] <robin_z> yeah
[20:13:58] <Lerneaen_Hydra> I would need 130-ish tooth :s
[20:14:11] <robin_z> impossible for a normal bike
[20:14:14] <Lerneaen_Hydra> two-stage is something I do not want to have to do
[20:14:48] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh this is not for a pedaled bike, it's just that bike gear & chain is cheap and effecient for this
[20:14:57] <robin_z> well i know
[20:15:08] <robin_z> but they dont make 130 tooth main chain wheeks
[20:15:11] <robin_z> wheels
[20:15:16] <Lerneaen_Hydra> crap...
[20:15:29] <robin_z> it would rub on the floor as you pedalled along
[20:15:37] <Lerneaen_Hydra> hmm, I wonder how I'll manage to get a 1:12 ratio
[20:15:56] <robin_z> mmm
[20:16:09] <robin_z> servo motor and planetary gear box?
[20:16:18] <Lerneaen_Hydra> too pricey
[20:16:24] <Lerneaen_Hydra> this is only around 200 watts
[20:16:26] <robin_z> 150 quid?
[20:16:29] <robin_z> hmm
[20:16:40] <Lerneaen_Hydra> I need to go from 3000rpm to 260 (roughly)
[20:17:02] <robin_z> 2 stages
[20:17:11] <robin_z> mylon gears?
[20:17:23] <Lerneaen_Hydra> what about belts maybe?
[20:17:32] <robin_z> toothed belt is good
[20:17:33] <Lerneaen_Hydra> I've seen large belt wheels around
[20:17:51] <Lerneaen_Hydra> toothed belt is teh shit. might be a bit expensive though
[20:17:56] <Lerneaen_Hydra> or wait
[20:18:15] <Lerneaen_Hydra> when you say toothed do you mean like a gear-y type tooth or one that lets it bend more?
[20:18:26] <robin_z> potato
[20:18:52] <robin_z> I min like AT2.5 belt
[20:19:03] <Lerneaen_Hydra> you mean like this: http://www.velocetteowners.com/sparesco/beltdrive1.jpg
[20:19:25] <Lerneaen_Hydra> any idea of the price range for a 200W 1:12 kit?
[20:19:31] <robin_z> like that but in a smaller pitch
[20:19:34] <Lerneaen_Hydra> 50£? 100£?
[20:19:36] <Lerneaen_Hydra> yeah
[20:19:54] <robin_z> 30 euro for 2 cogs and a belt
[20:20:03] <Lerneaen_Hydra> hey not bad
[20:20:06] <robin_z> bearings, use plastick bushes
[20:20:14] <robin_z> the Igus stuff
[20:20:16] <Lerneaen_Hydra> aluminum cogs or iron?
[20:20:21] <robin_z> ally
[20:20:25] <Lerneaen_Hydra> why would I need bearings?
[20:20:39] <Lerneaen_Hydra> this is going to be hardmounted on both ends to axles
[20:20:54] <Lerneaen_Hydra> (then again how would you know that)
[20:20:59] <robin_z> well, cog, axle .. axle runs in bearings in the side plates
[20:21:20] <robin_z> 5:1 can be done
[20:21:26] <robin_z> 3:1 and rhen 4:1
[20:21:33] <robin_z> = 12:1
[20:21:46] <Lerneaen_Hydra> can't one just do 12:1 at once?
[20:21:51] <robin_z> unlikely
[20:22:03] <robin_z> possible, but unlikely
[20:22:19] <Lerneaen_Hydra> the large cog diameter isn't very critical
[20:22:22] <robin_z> 15T drive onto 200T?
[20:22:31] <Lerneaen_Hydra> <20" is perfect
[20:22:37] <Lerneaen_Hydra> <23-24 maybe
[20:22:48] <robin_z> check your local cog shop
[20:23:02] <Lerneaen_Hydra> are the big ones prohibitavly expensive?
[20:23:07] <Lerneaen_Hydra> (sp?)
[20:23:07] <robin_z> probably
[20:23:32] <Lerneaen_Hydra> maybe multi-v belts, aren't they cheaper?
[20:23:45] <robin_z> if you dont need a particular ratio
[20:24:01] <Lerneaen_Hydra> anything between 11 and 13:1 is ok
[20:24:02] <robin_z> 10 to 13 ...
[20:24:08] <robin_z> variable as the load changes
[20:24:14] <Lerneaen_Hydra> huh?
[20:24:20] <Lerneaen_Hydra> how's that work?
[20:24:27] <robin_z> sigh
[20:24:36] <robin_z> as the belt puls depaer intot the grooves
[20:24:44] <robin_z> the effective diameter changes
[20:25:07] <robin_z> more noticeable on the small pulley than the large one
[20:25:12] <robin_z> hence ratio changes
[20:25:12] <Lerneaen_Hydra> oh, not that type of V-belt, I was thinking multi-v
[20:25:26] <robin_z> whatever,
[20:25:26] <Lerneaen_Hydra> single-v changes a lot that's true
[20:25:32] <robin_z> its non-synchronus
[20:25:47] <robin_z> asynchonous even
[20:25:50] <Lerneaen_Hydra> http://www.bprparts.com/images/M400315.jpg
[20:25:56] <Lerneaen_Hydra> cross section
[20:26:09] <Lerneaen_Hydra> that doesn't sink much at all (a little bit though)
[20:26:27] <Lerneaen_Hydra> the grooves are only a few mm tall
[20:28:44] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/components/ewma.comp: new component: moving average
[20:32:32] <skunkworks> bbl
[20:34:40] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/components/encoder.c: add a 'velocity' output, which is correct even over index pulses
[20:35:35] <jepler> er, should be "signal" not "param"
[20:35:48] <jepler> .. in a commit message that hasn't shown up yet
[20:36:25] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/max/max.hal: produce a spindle velocity estimate on the param spindle-rpm-filtered
[20:36:36] <alex_joni> :-)
[20:36:52] <alex_joni> jepler: what are tomorrows lotto numbers?
[20:37:25] <CIA-8> 03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/docs/man/man3/hal_param_new.3hal: refer to hal_type_t manpage
[20:37:49] <jepler> alex_joni: python -c 'import random; c=range(60); random.shuffle(c); print c[:5]' (depending on the rules of your local lottery)
[20:38:14] <jepler> and the powerball for 2006/10/16 is .. the square root of a negative number
[20:38:25] <SWPadnos> impossible!
[20:38:27] <jepler> hi Jymmm
[20:38:35] <Jymmm> Hey jepler, how ya doin?
[20:38:37] <jepler> what did you do to piss off those dorks last night?
[20:38:41] <alex_joni> lol
[20:38:44] <Lerneaen_Hydra> haha
[20:38:48] <cradek> yeah that was impressive
[20:39:05] <Jymmm> jepler: Ah... they were trolling in ##php, so I banned them, then they followed me into here.
[20:39:41] <jepler> I see
[20:39:58] <Jymmm> jepler: The trolling happens a lot in ##php. script kiddies
[20:40:33] <Jymmm> alot of proxies too
[20:40:43] <Lerneaen_Hydra> that stuff yesterday didn't seem to be script kiddies as much as copy-paste idiots
[20:55:56] <Lerneaen_Hydra> 'night
[20:56:04] <jepler> see you Lerneaen_Hydra
[20:56:08] <Lerneaen_Hydra> bye
[20:58:36] <CIA-8> 03alex_joni 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/components/or2.comp: fixed a typo, causes problems with insmoding/removing the module
[20:58:59] <alex_joni> whoa.. CIA really is slow
[21:00:07] <CIA-8> 03alex_joni 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/components/or2.comp: meant or2 not or
[21:14:58] <ejholmgren1> what exactly is it that CIA is doing?
[21:15:18] <SWPadnos> it sends messages to IRC when developers commit changes to CVS
[21:15:21] <ejholmgren1> ah
[21:15:23] <alex_joni> ejholmgren1: pasting commit logs in here
[21:15:32] <SWPadnos> or when the builds fail on the compile farm
[21:18:06] <A-L-P-H-A> you all missed me... I know.
[21:18:08] <A-L-P-H-A> how goes?
[21:21:23] <jepler> fine -- you?
[21:50:43] <robin_sz> Be Alert!
[21:50:54] <robin_sz> ...
[21:51:04] <robin_sz> you country needs Lerts!
[21:51:39] <A-L-P-H-A> jepler: uber.
[21:52:08] <A-L-P-H-A> damn girl is making me wait and wait... I hope the wait is worth it.
[21:52:28] <A-L-P-H-A> robin_sz, are you consuming beer again?
[21:53:51] <robin_sz> not today, work day

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