Twingy, that's excellent!
I saw your comment, and thought I was in the brlcad channel ;)
I am hoping GTK dev community releases a stable 2.9 within the next couple of weeks
not to mention nvidia releasing AMD64 drivers for FreeBSD
hello from Argentina, i have a technical question
hi, go ahead, im sure someone around here can help :D
i want to use a universal stepper board from pico systems but i still need an analog output of +-10V to control the spindle
i need another board the question is if EMC support 2 boards and what board should i use
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VNR: I don't have enough experience with analog signals to help out, someone else here that can help ?
you can simply pwm your analog out one of the digital i/o's right?
er, two of them i guess
VNR: I have been interfacing with the MP1000-THC for my THC and I know the guys at CandCNC have a +-10v spindle speed box but it is a bit expensive at $695
VNR: MP1000-SPS http://www.candcnc.com/MP1000ProductsChart.htm
xylotex has a nice setup for a mere $600
i'm back.. thanks all for the answers
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VNR, the hal_ppmc driver supports multiple boards (up to 24 boards total)
you can also load the USC driver and some other hardware drivers at the same time
ok.. so i can use this universal stepper board and another card in conjunction.. thats good ;)
Twingy: I'd suggest goin with geckos over xylotex if you plan on doing any serious work.
If I knew then what I know now, I would have bought geckos instead of xylotex.
Hey Jymmm whats cookin' in California?
LawrenceG: Gonna be up till 2pm tomorrow... finish parts, then hitting a show at 4am
a few last minute projects by the sounds of it
MY machien fouled up on me a couple times, had to redo parts.
I have had a slow week here.... I have been working on a low end servo amp.... it was kicking my butt for a few days.... it was an oscillator instead of an amp... I think that is tamed now
now its on the the dspic part of it
I am using the PID code from hal so it should be interesting to see how it translates to a micro....
this island is gonna KeeP me....
is that a good thing?
mmmm... no lobsters on this side of the country....
too bad python doesn't do keywords..
im shipping 50 lbs back... TOMORROW
can you freeze lobsters?
hey.... I'm glad you found my address :}
cook and keep on ice...
im off to bed... tooo many hrs on this part in 11 days...
take it easy... good night from the west coast
sounds like yer doing something wrnog
192 hrs sins last saturday..
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03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/extensions/halmodule.c: compatability define
Have anyone tried to convert a ps (a png) to dxf and got ok result?
^Eugenics: there are few tools I guess
Image to gcode you meant ?
cradek: should have something in his website maybe
no, for the moment image to dxf
a human face ?
I guess too dificult
I tried many, to be honest with poor results..
now I only wnat lines that is snapable in qcad
now I'm trying pstoedit
oh, from bitmap to vectors then
from a ps
anyone seen piere?
5 days ago ..
was the 1982 and the Rolling Stones were playng a concert (first time in IT), Italy won the world cup the same day
after 20 and more years, they got back for a concert, and IT is agin on final
same month: july
wonder if it mean something :D
yeah, it means they should play more often in italy
btw, great concert, theyre old but always niceee
that way italians have a chance for soccer :D
it must mean something... maybe aliens will show up
jagger was singing with the 'azzurra' shirt ..
and maxyscreen around the concert
peoples was watching concert and footbal match at the same time !
I think this was the last concert , they are very* old yet ..
as Bob Dylan too
he comes in this year too
very old rock stars
maybe they will sing in wheelchairs later ;)
I love theyr songs
also like Deep Purple, Pink Floyd, all old generations bands
was a genuine rock
Led zeppelin rocks!
Queen was an excellent band too
but paying a 100 euro to go to a stones concert... well I dont know
Freddy Mercury voice is wonderful
^Eugenics: well i'd pay 100 for theyr concert
one time in the life..
I need to be able to make money!
with CNC ?
you have to join politics business to make lot of money
what ever, then 100 euro is smallar problem than now...
not honestly ..
there are nice free concerts once in a while
there was paul mccartne playing in rome (when I was there)
and Elton John too
once in a while ;)
McCartney I mean ;9
darn .. can't type at all today
already drunk ;)
been programming for a few hours
yes, the music is in debits with the Beatles yet ..
and will be for a long time I guess
juve@ubuntu:~/emc2/src$ ../bin/halcmd show pin halui | wc -l
* giacus looks at his 3D scanner table and wonder how to build it ..
too much small steppers, slides and wires here around !
need to clean the desk before going on
halui is starting to have a LOT of pins
03alex_joni 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/halui.cc:
lots of pins for joint control (homing, is-homed, has-fault, is on (min/max) -
(soft/hard) limit), also means for selecting a joint (to minimize the number of
external buttons). (halui.pincount += 81) Also changed the exit routine, so that
halui now exists gracefully (we don't need to free NML buffers, as we don't own
the good part is that only a few pins for jogging are left, and it should be done
alex_joni: could be possible to install Head and Testing at the same time using different directory ?
but not from deb packages
I've to check the CVS then
you need to have the CVS version
no, from source
right, and to configure --enable-run-in-place
that way emc runs only inside the directory you put it into
so basicly you can have unlimited numbers of emc's around :D
I have about 5 or 6
that's is coool :)
giacus: seen my latest pictures?
not yet.. url ?
[14:30:09] <alex_joni> http://dsplabs.utt.ro/~juve/blog/index.cgi/photography/01152273021
nice collection :)
yeah, those were very nice flowers
giacus: too bad I didn't have much time, I would have shot lots more
anonimasu: not much :D
alex_joni: nice, what the robot was for ?
giacus: welding ;)
giacus: as usual :D
but 8 axes this time
* alex_joni needs some C8H10N4O2
Hey, I just got a mail from the guy behind the classicladder project, you might want to read the forum thread he mailed me about -> http://membres.lycos.fr/mavati/classicladder/
[15:01:15] <Rugludallur> http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1529217&forum_id=88266
Rugludallur is now known as Dallur
It sounds like Marc wants to be more involed with Classicladder in EMC2
Dallur: I emailed Marc a while ago, saying that we'll use classicladder in emc2
maybe he forgot
alex_joni: might be, I am sending him an email now and telling him I am sure we would love to have him more deeply involved
and if you read the README.txt inside classicladder, it's all there
[15:12:48] <alex_joni> http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/emc2/src/hal/classicladder/README.txt?rev=1.2;content-type=text%2Fplain
alex_joni: Yup, I think he might just be excited by the fact that someone is using classicladder to control something big in the real world :D
I really would not want him to think we don't appreciate his work
or want to hide from our users that he did the initial work
alex_joni: Yup, hmm is there a link from the linuxcnc.org links page to classicladder ....
alex_joni: I don't know what you think but I think that might make him happy :D
Dallur: yeah, I tried to put all relevant links whenever I had a chance
I see the wiki doesn't mention his site, but I'm working on it right now
alex_joni: I will edit my THC wiki page and put a link to his site to
cool, I'll respond to his thread
thanks for pointing it out
alex_joni: I will also send him an email
alex_joni: I think it would be really good if he wants to get involved and I think it might be a drive for him that someone is actually using his work for real life implementatinos
hmm.. seems I did talk to him back in 2005 January
maybe he can't remember ;)
[15:33:07] <alex_joni> http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3813069
hmm.. I see he started working on it again
the project had been idle for almost a year before
I had no idea he went back to work on it
alex_joni: Yup, I think I pretty much convinced him to add float support and configurable timers as his top priority :D
alex_joni: which would be great, hopefully I can migrate the changes from his code tree to the one in EMC and we will have configurable timers
Dallur: for any questions peteg is your man
PeteV .. sorry ;)
ahh I heard his name before, he is the one that did the original integration correct ?
Peter G. Vavaroutsos
I did one before, but that was one lame attempt ;)
he did the proper things :)
to me classicladder and emc2 are a match made in heaven
they really do complement each other
Dallur: maybe you'll find halui usefull too (for hardware panels)
alex_joni: already using it
cool, I added a few more pins today
alex_joni: halui actually gave me one of the best features I have seen for plasma, I now pause program execution for users to verify pierce height before the arc is struck
I see you use halvcp
alex_joni: yup, and halui and classicladder and huge number of blocks :Þ
well.. I added about 80 more pins to halui today
mostly for controlling joints (homing, and watching errors, and limits, etc)
alex_joni: hmm I need to check,
Dallur: let me know if you think there is still something missing from halui
alex_joni: ahh I really need to check that out, I had to manually do the "inverse homing"
I know I have to add that :D
alex_joni: will do, I will probably not get around to do it untill next week but,, since I took a month off to work on open source projects I have all the time in the world
heh, that sounds like a dream
alex_joni: I took 1 month to work on open source projects and 1 month to work on boat, so now I just have to finish a full plasma implementation before I start to cut everything for my b oat
Are you gonna use a mig to join the steel plates?
you allready have a mig beast?
I got a 320A mig here
but for the stainless I will use the TIG or stick
(I also have a 450A AC/DC tig)
then you will have a fast welding period.
did you got the machinary used?
Eugenics: I think so, plus the guy I am building the boat with is the best welder I have ever seen
Eugenics: yup, everything is second hand, and most was bought defect or broken and fixed
:) You are lucky
Next time I think I will build out of aluminum (aluminium)
why not now?
I already have all the materials and the design is for steel
Dallur: a boat using steel ?
a submarine ?
giacus: wooden boats are kinda oldschool ;)
all modern ships are made out of steel :D
giacus: yes using steel
giacus: nope, just a sailboat
alex_joni: well steel+aluminium+titanium
I have a small boat
aluminium, 48 kg
giacus :D great, sail, paddle or motor
motor, if that fails sail, if that fails -> paddle ;)
I use 4 HP Suzuky motor
it doe not require insurance here ..
giacus: same here, anything under 6 (19')m does not require insurance
no special requirements until 800 meters from the coast too
giacus: so you use it on saltwater '
it would be a boat for lake in origin
but its quite nice for sea too
giacus: where about do you live (if you don't mind me asking)
Here's a link to an app that is great (and OS) for modelling boats (and get cutting patterns) http://www.freeship.org/
[16:12:16] <giacus> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=38.223347,16.272125&spn=0.09993,0.159988&t=k&om=1
Eugenics: Yes, I remembered you mentioned it before, so I downloaded it and took a good look, it looks great
it has a pretty good tutorial too
giacus: italy nice :D
giacus: I have only been to Italy once, and I was only there for 3 hours, and that was in Trieste
heh, close to slovenia iirc
and croatia ;)
alex_joni: yes, I was actually in slovenia then, and we discovered that they did not sell beer on sundays ,, so we drove over to Italy to buy beers :D
strange, they do not sell beer on sundays..
alex_joni are you still in that area, you were in Bulgaria before If I remember correctly
giacus: it was the sunday before 1. May, that might have been the reason
but I drove through trieste last summer
was in croatia on vacation, then in italy
that's a nice place to visit
but for fun, the boys prefer Viareggio, Rimini, Riccione, Jesolo
who like to dance all night ..
sea, sun and lot of fun
I can't wait to see how siracusa will be next week :)
btw, its not what I like
actually on the 18th
alex_joni: neat sea there around
giacus: hope so ;)
it would be great to hire a sailboat and go island hopping for a month or two,,,, , dsdld but then again better to finish the boat and go island hopping for years
alex_joni: they have very different beach than here
Hmm I should probably map out everyone involved in the EMC project and plot the fastest route to visit everyone :D
Dallur: If you pas Nice I'll give a tour ;)
once you enterd in the water you can walk for 100 mt there
here not, after few meters the level is 2-3 meters depth
Eugenics: I'm sure I will, I also need to go to Nice because of work sometimes, I might ping you if I am around
Dallur: check out frappr
ahh well I need to go dress for a dinner party (time to wear my "I hate ties" tie)
alex_joni: I will spend alot of time in Europe, North America and Australia it seems
Dallur: Do that!
It's wierd though, there is not one person in Asia or South America :(
not on that map
probably loads of users though
alex_joni: yes, I would imagine there are a couple of machines shipping out of china with EMC
wanna know if you're taking too much sun on the beach ?
now you can http://www.repubblica.it/2006/07/sezioni/scienza_e_tecnologia/bikini-uv-meter/bikini-uv-meter/bikini-uv-meter.html
just for $ 190
good business, the womans are ready to spend lot of money for theyr beautiful
* alex_joni goes out to ride his bike for a while
* giacus is ready for Germany-Portugal
hope in a nice football show :P
3th place for Germany
I think the true final was Italy-Germany not the match they will play tomorrow ..
* giacus start the countdown :D
* robin_sz stops caring about football
actually, no .. I never cared in the first place
right now the French is favorited
but the 2th place or first was right for the Germany team
they played a good game
I think better than French
2nd not 2th by the way
but its my personal point of view
short for "second" 2nd
1,2, and 3 are different
1 is 1st .. for "first"
and 3 is 3rd for "third"
no, no need, your english is good
I think is very bad
I just pass this on so maybe you rememebr, it would be rude if I did not help, no?
just because i'm playng with it too many years ..
I would be perfect ! but it isnt
your english is better than my Italian :)
that mean I'm not so clever to learn
the englishare very bad at learning languages!!
bah.. that's ok
you know why we are so bad?
you can speak italian only in 1 country
not so useful
not any other country?
instead, I started hearding ebglish songs when I was 12
we are so bad because we do not learn ANY grammar in school
robin_sz: I think only in IT
no grammar at all!
spanish instead is better
can you imagine?
used also in center america I guess
so, we don't really know how our own language is put together, so it is impossible for us to learn another
well, english is dinamic
I like it
most people do not know how to decline a verb in english .. or even what a verb is!!
to mean the same thing in IT you have to use much more words than english
I have a big difficult with verbs, infact
in italian is: usare la forchetta
to get an idea..
10 chars more to mean exactly the same thing
and it happen for 90%
what's to fork?
I think you mean "use a fork"
as in eat?
you can't use "to fork"
it's also "use a fork" just like in italian
yeah, it was an example
how italian is more complex and not so useful
for what I know
however, it dictionary is inherithing many terms from english
to say OK, we have to say 'va bene' ..
VIP (very important person), and so on
yeah, but you also have OK ;)
since 1945 I think ..
on the computers that is true for all
e.g the boys are using terms as 'browser'
and there are not equivalent it terms for that
and so on for lot of terms
browser, files, directory, mouse, etc.. are used in english everywhere
at least here
france uses french words
for the 'mouse' ?
ooh, I just spotted a couple of domain names to go and cybersquat :)
I've few cousins living in north italy
near the french, but in italy (valle d'aosta)
near the mont blanc
they speak 50% italian and 50% french
robin_sz: oh, in the swiss you could find someone speaking italian maybe
and in few other places
true, southern .ch, zermatt they speak .it
yes, I'm happy to know we exported something of good other than mafia only all around the world :)
giacus: don't forget pizza
many scientists are working all over the world and that's good
alex_joni: hehe yeah
and parmeggiano ;)
also a bit of space station have something of it technology
yeah, I heard they have a wooden hammer up there
I was thinking that yestarday.. about the shuttle
long time no see ;)
Yes, i'm bussy at the moment
I guess ;)
whats up here ?
emc2's doing great
things are progressing
tody our siemens controller made his first moves
i hope to have more time for EMC, but not the next month :-(
it's cool, we bought about 50 peaces for that controller at ebay and except of one part everything is working !!
nice for you
whats going on in romania ?
not much ;)
hm, so much ;-)
<- latest pics ;)
ah the 350D is still working :-)
you use the kit lens, rigth ?
and a 75-300
at wide angle it makes everything a bit round
i was in Corfu (greek) two weeks ago and had a lot of fun with my Canon Pro1
and a nice grl
cool.. I was in athens
[21:45:50] <alex_joni> http://dsplabs.utt.ro/~juve/blog/index.cgi/photography/01151248639
good pictures !
is that your father ?
this one: http://dsplabs.utt.ro/~juve/blog/index.cgi-files/photography/01151248639/IMG_4673.JPG
i like it to play with sharpnes and blur
but that is a bit hard to do with my Pro1 !! A DSLR is much better
cool, the autocorso here is still going on :-)
03cradek 07HEAD * 10axis/extensions/emcmodule.cc: make the backplot match the preview when using g43 (tool offsets).
doh.. a ticket for the final IT-FR reached the cost of E. 5k
another funny thing:
an italian company starts selling about 80k plasma tv color and sayd: if IT win the world cup you'll get the money back (that was the spot)
if it win they have to give about 10 million of euro back haha
maybe they bet 10 million euro on italy to win before the cup started
I didint buy it sigh ..
what were the odds for italy at the beginning?
jmkasunich: yeah, of course, before to start
jmkasunich: nobody was sure that IT was a good team
if 10:1 against, the could bet 1 million euro... if italy loses, they lose 1 million, but have money from selling TVs... if italy wins, they pay the customers with the bet winnings
also for what happen lately
yes, the cost of the TV was E. 1.650,00
costumers will get it back only if it win
companys making such offers finance that normaly with a insurance !
[22:34:55] <giacus> http://www.dynamick.it/televisori-in-regalo-solo-se-litalia-vince-i-mondiali-468.html
of course is closed now :(
its like the million $ shows !!
Imperator_: they sayd, btw the got it good
that are not money back
but tickets to buy something in theyr shop ..
for the equivalent value they spent
not quite the same as cash ;-/
business is business..
they could bout anything of the same value
E. 1.650 are not few
[22:38:21] <giacus> http://www.mediaworld.it/home.html
the players who win the final match will get E. 250K each ..
just as bnus, from FIFA
thats business :(
hello dmessier !!
what's up ?
03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/extensions/halmodule.c:
use a union for different pin types, cut down on casting
fix a NULL pointer dereference when setting a pin that didn't exist
these parts are gonna forever haunt me...
i have xtra grey hair
03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/scripts/haltest.py: use several different pin types to show they work
boon soir la belle
boon soir my friend heh
demain match France- Italy w l Italy
imagine a 3 layered tununig fork tha strike a D minor-flat///
dmessier: ready for the Big Fight ?
[22:48:59] <giacus> http://www.corriere.it/gallerie/2006/07_Luglio/08/sand.shtml
just a match may the best men win..
here are the lions :D
yeah.. zidane is fantastic lately
just hope someone will break him
and got no rain during the match :(
on the last tuesday of june they said 5 weeks... then i showed up.... and 11 days later i brought finished parts home to ontario for final processing
too much late ?
aircraft on assembly line with no nose landing gear..
03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/extensions/halmodule.c: remove debugging statement
i was called by Bombardier REPresentative to give ok for anything and everything to accomplish the mission..
[22:56:22] <K4ts> http://www.pianeta.com/map/viewer_all.php?foto=12753_ae0b9f7e8be6bf91740cb2052f6ebb99&pin=4c8b437d6b8aa787c330f12fc211b2d1
mmm ... aerospace work :)
I hope the Italians win ...
dmessier: you need good partners in the work :)
dash 8 nose gear
it would be nice for them to wine SOMETHING at last! ;)
dmessier, nice, and profitable too!
i find them along the way... and EVERYONE learns someting before i leave... ; )
but, really I think the summer isnt a good time for works
quite.. 92 hrs this week
maybe that's the reason
03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/user_comps/vcp/ (vcp_main.c vcp_widgets.c): fixed a bug that shows up when the user doesn't explicitly specify the 'layout' attribute for a box
we fond the insurance was too expensive, so we dont do aero
que c est dit giacus dmessier je ne comprend pas
maybe im GOIN TO HAWAHII>>>> and dint realize it
ecrive moi en francaise
dmessier: wow that's great
we got a very bad weather in these days
mon aeroglisser est plein des anguilles
jai trvaiellier 92 hour c'est semaine et 88 la denier
visitors are quite tired here
toi etre tres fatigue alors
i would log in and fall asleep
strong coffee and sandwiches are the key
coffee americano bleachhhh
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/Makefile: print entering/leaving messages just like it was a sub-make, so vim can automatically visit files with errors/warnings
sandwiches made with caffeine pills :)
coffe napoletano slurp
5 hours/night are ok
mes 2 enfant sonte ice sans parent... le plus vieux a 16 an... j'avez peaur...
K4ts: robin_sz meant caffè forte
that's not the long coffe used in the US
she's thinking at the long coffe (not strong..)
but a good tea should have a similar effect too
isnt it robin_sz ?
dmessier tu devrais reposer de piu
tu dors trop peu et travailles trop
yes, 5 hours without breaks (at least)
[23:13:30] <robin_sz> http://www.porkolt.com/other/strange/creature/strange-creature-2769.html
scary ... what is that? human?
[23:15:27] <robin_sz> http://www.porkolt.com/other/shocking/apache/gunship/attack/iraq/kill/war/footage-of-apache-gunship-taking-out-iraqis-795.html
now .. that one is weird ...
on the one hand, death is not pleasant
on the other, it is amazing to place shots so accurately from 1000m +
yes, I already seen that in a documentary time ago
30mm canon, from a helicopter platform and so accurate at such a range
and the people do not even know it is there, so it must be a long way away
[23:20:53] <giacus> http://www.corriere.it/Media/Foto/2006/07_Luglio/08/fdg/PAM_550x419_reuters.jpg
that's not so accurate, but seems efficaciuos too
i have that on.. .. look at the HUD.. watch the ammo count go ..
robin_sz: time ago rainews24 did a movie about white phosphorus, that scenes are used in the final part of the documentary
it should be online yet I guess ..
[23:26:39] <giacus> http://www.rainews24.rai.it/ran24/inchiesta/video.asp
english vers. is available too
[23:30:04] <alex_joni> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/uploads/halvcp.png
pretty soon we'll have a mach 3 panel :)
03alex_joni 07HEAD * 10emc2/configs/halui_halvcp/ (halui.vcp halvcp.hal): rework of the vcp, added a few more buttons and leds
fenn: this is only a helper gui
the main use of it will be in hardware panels
fenn: I don't expect anyone to use halvcp&halui as a GUI