very quiet tonight...
shhhhh - you'll wake the wabbits
not in my house.. got a couple hundred dirty punk drunks in da house
hmm i shouldnt say that - they're clean punk drunks
oh. uh - yay, I guess
* cradek does a little dance
X axis is done
err - make a little love, get down tonight ??
I didn't actually do a little dance, it's just an expression
I'm not sure I've ever been excited enough to actually do a little dance.
kind of depressing, that
even out at the bars/clubs, I don't do a little dance
not that I go to those places often
my kind of bar is the one where you can sit at a table and eat pizza with friends, preferably at a time when the place is about empty
SWP does a BIG dance
I guess my kind of bar would be something you can feed into a lathe
I did plenty of that tonight
yeah - I'm like devo on the dance floor
* fenn thinks swpadnos is a poseur
if I see a dance floor, it means I've accidentally gone in the wrong place
heh, got that right
same as a salad/food bar with a guy slicing a roast on the end of it
that I can get behind
err - in front of
we have a place here called "old country buffet" but it's affectionately called "old people buffet" by the locals
do they really eat old people?
yeah, those places are the same everywhere
my wife designed their logo way back when
not while I was there
or their menu or something
soylent green is for old people!
SWPadnos: for the lincoln one? or is it a chain?
soylent green is old people
it's a chain
I had no idea
that SG was old people? ;-)
yes, a continuous cycle of fat
ever see fight club?
is the Lincoln one at 2241 O street?
sure could be
I think they've updated their logo
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Golden Corral
or maybe it wa sthe menu - I thought they used to have a brownish thing, with a cracker barrel or something
yeah 22nd & O is right
I just ate dinner and you guys are making me hungry!
I just had some Dal and Mattar Paneer, plus Brie and crackers
haha you can't eat dal and brie together
I ate teh brie first
cradek: what X axis is done?
asdfqwega: my lathe conversion
the unknown axis, X
indian food --> Dal and Mattar Paneer ???
Way Boffo Keen-O Kewl
I've probably had it, but wouldn't have known
brie == french, and the crackers were English
my indian friend taught me to cook some things, I was on a real indian food kick for a while, not so much now
it's tasty stuff
sometimes too tasty
that's good in the winter when there's not fresh vegetables everywhere
and when it's cold
outside - not the food
hotels at Niagara falls are expensive as hell
possibly more expensive than hell
I assumed the accomodations in hell were free
hmmm - I'm sure there's a cost somewhere
theonion.com is having a 10 year recap, I forgot how good they used to be
"Kodak and Polaroid apologize for a one-night merger"
ok I better take a photo of this for you guys
* asdfqwega tries to build python-axis package...
[02:41:05] <cradek> http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/DSCN6290.JPG
now take another picture without so much cat-hair in it
ugh, I hadn't noticed
the fabric on the wrist wrest collects it
at least you can tell the keyboard isn't all brown and gross like some people's
wow, the pulley flange just barely clears the motor
was that planned or luck?
neither, it's the angle
there's > 1/16" of space there
the motor standoffs are male-female extensions like we talked about
I couldn't find long socket head set screws, so I screwed in a regular screw until it binds then cut the head off
the back of the pulley has a seat cut out for the front thrust bearing to hide inside
how much end play did you wind up with?
the leadnut has backlash though, maybe .05mm
but there's not much I can do about that right now I guess
maybe with servos I can actually use backlash comp in emc
I'm pleased how the motor screws ended up right in the center of their adjustment slots
it's nice when something comes out as expected
cradek: very nice. Any tuning yet?
no, I haven't even moved it
I'll have to do some wiring and come up with a proper power supply
I have been working on house stuff and my car. feel like I am out of the loop
there hasn't been too much going on here I guess
cradek: you makin a router?
no, converting one of my lathes
cradek ah, ok.
thats good - I think :)
it'll be good for emc I'm sure
because it won't have cranks anymore :-)
(I ment not missing much)
but yes that is good also
had to make some rear adjustabel control arms for my car - too much camber
[03:19:57] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/morecar/controlarms.JPG
mostly just assembling ;) some lathe work
Other than a full sized router motor, can anyone think of a bit smaller spindle tha'll take a 3/8" bit ?
why did you have to replace alignment parts?
did you raise or lower the car or something?
Sorry skunkworks, I don't know enough to say "very nice", but I'll say it anyway... very nice! =)
* cradek only messes with his car when it breaks
the car is a 92 - the alignment place could not get the rear into spec - very common with these cars. (that have a cammed bolt that just doesn;t have enough movement. - so this is the fix
cradek - how did the milling of the adaptor plate go?
have you done stuff that big on your max?
does anyone use a wirewrap gun?
not since college :)
do they automatically strip the wire?
I don't think the ones I used did.
hi alex, G'Night alex
morning & g'night
Anyone know a good source of couplings? (I need 5/10mm)
I've used these before: http://www.ktr.com/katalog/EN/KTR_110.pdf
not sure if they are the right thing for you
looks like a good solution. They come unbored I presume? Do you have any idea about the price?
I get mine already bored
for about 20-30 EUR
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/Makefile:
automatically re-build configure from configure.in, and automatically re-run
configure when it has changed.
but that's a fter 1-2 dealers, so directly might be lots cheaper
good morning guys
eh, you do not order from ktr?
^Eugenics: no, I order from the robot manufacturer
do you know if they can make the bore for me?
^Eugenics: I think you specify the hole diameter when you order
I will mail them and find out
thanks for the tip!
03compile-farm 07BDI-TNG (2.4.18-rtai) * 10emc2head/: build FAILED ; see http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/emc2head_slot3_log.txt
^Eugenics: where are you from?
jepler: oh-oh ;)
btw, I got too tired of my old nick, chinamill
^Eugenics: ok then ;)
^Eugenics: you french ?
jepler: think you put a too high autoconf number in there
alex_joni: I didn
't put the number there
giacus: but try to line in france
or, whoever put it
jepler: no worries, that number has been changed at least a couple dozen times
giacus: I promised you that I notify you if I changed my nic, so I did, I do not use chinamill anymore
I'll just revert that portion of the Makefile change
^Eugenics: cool :)
jepler: ok, I figured out what you did now.. sorry ;)
I'll update it then
jepler: configure.in has some stuff in it, that needs a newer autoconf package than is available on BDI-TNG
giacus: how was the live music you went to?
jepler: but if you generate ./configure on another machine, it works perfectly well
^Eugenics: was cool the first 15 min., after that I don't remember what happen :(
too much drinks
alex_joni: the problem is that CVS may give configure.in a newer date than configure .. there's actually no reason to be regenerating the file on that machine, since the one in CVS is up to date.
giacus: keep off the booze
giacus: ok, you probably had fun then
jepler: I think we're safe for now if we update it every time we touch configure.in
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/Makefile: revert earlier change
^Eugenics: I have to say its a funny time in these days, really, the only thing the weather is going to be bad
waiting rain for tomorrow/sunday
as never seen before
how is there ?
^Eugenics: I've also used these ones before: http://gb.desch.demo.x2-gmbh.de/index.php/171/DESCH-Hadeflex-Coupling/
now it's fair, yesterday I went wavesurfing = quite windy
got few fantastic days, Italy team won on Germany, discovery on the space and Freedom fest in US
it couldnt be better until now
better than how I was hoping
did you get your couplings already bored from the dealer?
^Eugenics: usually yes
^Eugenics: I've used another type too, but can't find the manufacturer
do you have any idea of the cost?
this type: http://www.rinomechanical.com/images/Torqlink25C_gs_66.jpg
do you have any clue wich one is the cheaper?
not really.. sorry
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/iotask/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/classicladder/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/user_comps/vcp/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/user_comps/devices/Submakefile: create libemchal.so with hal_lib.c and XXX_ulapi.c in it; use it when linking binaries
03compile-farm 07BDI-TNG (2.4.18-rtai) * 10emc2head/: build PASSED
[12:45:16] <alex_joni> http://dsplabs.utt.ro/~juve/blog/index.cgi/photography/01152273021
<- if anyone likes flowers :D
someone hacked my website
[13:29:25] <giacus> http://www.giacus.org/emcstats/emc.html
[13:33:57] <giacus> http://www.corriere.it/Speciali/Extra/2006/Germania2006/articoli/pop_telecronache.shtml
you like the miss italia on the right side of the banner eh ?? :P
03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/extensions/halmodule.c: add experimental hal module
03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/scripts/haltest.py: add experimental hal module
03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/setup.py: add experimental hal module
she's Miss Italia 2006 :))
why do I get some random white guy as my picture?
possibly because you haven't set up a photo yourself
(same with me, and jmk, and ...)
A-L-P-H-A: you're Grosso !!
I think cradek is the only one who has a custom photo :)
reload the page
what browser are U using ?
bad cache I guess..
I hit ctrl-f5
I'm still that random whiteguy with the parted hair.
rayh is a lot younger than I remember
A-L-P-H-A: try Dillo
and jmkasunich is older than I remember
and you're cuter than I remember
I dunno, he's pretty old
the cracker who did that work jumped cradek : no reason I guess
SWPadnos: hmm you're right
probably he liked the old pic :D
I think you should leave it, it's funny
fenn always lets us know what he's doing: 28 actions!
lets sse what happen sunday ..
For example, like this:
* fenn blows chunks
I really needed to know that
SWPadnos: you are fabio cannavaro
not bad I'd say
well, I never thought I'd be a Fabio
best defender of the planet :D
the funny thing he will play on serie 'B' next year ..
one of the best defenders of the planet
03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/nc_files/useful-subroutines.ngc: the demo holes shouldn't overlap
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/classicladder/Submakefile: fix incorrect rules using libemchal
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/utils/Submakefile: fix incorrect rules using libemchal
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/Submakefile: fix incorrect rules using libemchal
[14:29:42] <A-L-P-H-A> http://188.8.131.52/emc
<-- longer back logs.
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/hal_lib.c:
since more than one component per userland process doesn't work (segfault after
the first one exits), diagnose this in hal_init() and return an error
robin_sz, WHAT WAS THAT?!?!
robin_sz, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU?!?
I think is what she meant
K4ts: robin_sz should be at work right now !
K4ts: daughter ask me how to solve an issue
after a windoze upgrade, every 10 mins a msg apper:
this copy is not authentical
does anyone know how to remove it ? O_O
that was an optional update ..
it apper on login and after on a tray bar, she sayd
I know how to remove windows
authentic copy or not
I tried to explain her I'm not good doze user :(
btw, tried to help her by vnc
got no luck
welcome to Microsoft Genuine Advantage
it sounds like a recent M$ update
SWPadnos: I don't understand -- what's the Advantage for me?
well - WGA has been around for a while - it just got more annoying recently
I adviced K4ts to NOT updated her system !
right, I'm just asking what the Advantage is
jepler, no, I think they're missing a couple of characters : microsoft's genuine advantage
maybe only one char - no apostrophe :)
strange, it run in a tray bar ..
that's one downfall of automatic updates - it allows an external party to run arbitrary code (at administrator privilege level) on your machine
tried to run msconf, but I don't know the process to kill
or exclude from boot
jepler, you know as well as everyone else, there is no advantage.
A-L-P-H-A: doh !
is this a good idea for an adjustable current limiter? http://www.carmi.se/misterstarshine/img/2.gif
<-- is no E. engineer
<-- is professional meanie.
Bo^Dick, sort of ... but it depends on what you are trying to do ///
for a start, its a linear regulator, so will be horribly inefficient in its current limited mode
nmap -sF -T insane d83-184-191-114.cust.tele2.it!!
got an attack from UK this afternoon
thats odd, we usually get them from italy ;)
someone from you're factory I guess ..
but, why worry, thats what firewalls are for
robin_sz: what's up ?!
cheers from K4ts
* robin_sz waits for his traditional english food to arrive for tea
tea of 5 o clock ?
but we replaced tea with stong coffee
brasilian strong coffe :)
they make coffee in brazil?
we noticed nervous cnc machines works better with coffee
brasil have the better coffe of the world
I thought the brasillian national product was cocaine, not coffee
you didnt know it ?
that was columbia
robin_sz: you're uotdated ! :(
better cocaine comes from columbia
Brasil doesnt matter on that
didnt know that ? O_O
oh .. you should see Al Pacino Scarface then ..
I dont know much about brasil
its just a large country of deep valleys and flat plains and deserts and mud
well, brasil its a coool country really
I like Dominican Republic too
but its far away from my budget :(
maybe you can
I think brasil is outside my budget ...
maybe a I buy a smaller country first and trade it in later
you're like berlusconi yet !
you could ..
but you wont :(
robin_sz: going not cheap !
you have the power
have to give 2-3 sound cards to a friend of mine ;)
that is something yhou dont see any more .. soundcards
now every PC has one built in
anyone knows how to configure emc2 for using with an smc800?
what's a smc800?
it's an controller for stepping motors using parallel
do you have a link (URL) for it?
this one? http://engraving.majosoft.com/html/body_conrad_stepper_driver_smc800_and_smc1500.html
Guest993: I'm looking around conrad.de but can only find the smc1500
Guest993: shouldn't be that hard, to begin with you'd need the pin assignments
do you have any idea what the pinout for that card is?
or what signals it needs?
alex_joni: since it's either half or full step it's probably step/dir with a pin to toggle half/full (or maybe an onboard jumper)
found a manual now
it seems that pin 2, clock signal x-motor, pin 3 direction signal x-motor, pin 4 clock signal y-motor, pin 5 direction signal y-motor, pin 6 clock signal z-motor and pin 7 direction signal z-motor
Guest993: are you from germany?
no, from spain
oh. nice ;)
here's the manual I found: http://www.produktinfo.conrad.com/datenblaetter/950000-974999/967785-an-01-en-SMC_1500_Schrittmotor_Karte.pdf
clock would be the same as step?
but the manual mentions something else.. (that you need an supplimentary card to do that)
Guest993: do you have the extra card they mention?
it seems that without that card you can talk some protocol with the smc800
and tell it positions and such
i only have the smc800, supplementary card i think it's the pcb. that card works with pcnc smc version
Guest993: I think emc can be adapted to work with this smc, but it's probably not a 5 minute hack. I don't quite understand the protocol from that manual. you could make it work with emc as it is, if you use the adapter board (although it doesn't say if the adapter works with 800 too, or only with the 1500)
"The additional PCB SMC1500Z (only possible to use with SMC1500) is for controlling the stepper motor card by clock and direction signal."
it seems that at page 28 of the manual it's the protocol
that's a pinout, not a protocol
oh.. you meant the printed 28
yes, you are right
it seems like a terribly dumb protocol (you can only move one axis at a time)
and you need to alter the motor windings current
Guest993: I'm sorry to say, but I don't really think it's a good solution
but, can be used with emc?
not as it is, a small driver needs to get written
but I expect it to be not really trivial
Guest993: did you already buy it?
wait, i think i have some source code for controlling that machine. i bought the smc800 controller and the machine 2 year ago
if I were you I would replace the driver with simple L297/L298 drivers
for instance this one: http://www.pminmo.com/l297-8/l297-8.htm
i have no money. do you want i send you source code for controlling that machine (but isn't tested)?
Guest993: unfortunately I can't promise I'll work on it..
have loads on my to-do list, and I'm leaving for a couple of weeks
thanl you. i'm using web interface for using irc. can you give me some e-mail for sending you the source code?
alex.joni AT robcon.ro
My name is diego
Under a time crunch to get these completed for the swapmeet tomorrow at 4am
sounds like a nice thing
LOTS TODO... still need to find/get a table, make order forms, finish these parts, etc, etc, etc.
hello alex. because of using web interface i couldn't copy our conversation. Could you send me our conversation for saving it? It's important to me
Guest993: you can see it there
going for a pizza wanna come ? :P
Jymmm: then I won't bother you with pictures :D
why caos ? nahhhh
if you deliver, sure.
yeah, planning to go now
but storms and lightning
130 kw lightning!!
alex_joni Remind me in 24 hours. I doubt I'll sleep at all tonight.
Jymmm... why not sleep?
you are getting sleepy
you are getting very sleep... muahahhaha
If I get sleepy, I might accidently hit my "bitchslap A-L-P-H-A" button!
03alex_joni 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/emc/motion/ (control.c mot_priv.h motion.c): added a motion-inpos pin to power down stepper drives, while not moving
alex_joni: ooh, nice
alex_joni: some timeout type thing?
you can do the timeout with CL if you need
oh, ok. CL can do basically everything a PLC can, if only a bit slower?
not necessarely slower
CL is RT?
only the GUI is not RT
03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/extensions/emcmodule.cc: provide easy access to joint position information
burning DVDs is so slow
reminds me of the early days of CDs.
get a zippo
the lighters made in Canada?
alex_joni... you're not good at making smart alec remarks. :)
jepler: New package not work.
asdfq-shop: what package?
asdfq-shop: what package?
Trying to build python-axis for BDI4
It built, but I've got an error when trying to run it
I suspect a pastebin of the results would be usefull
should > I look at apache log ?
french friends stay calms ..
dont hurt me please
Gonna have to light the candles and draw up the chalk circle...time to do the "I hate Direcway" ritual
candle in the wind ?
miss Diana ?
Whee! One more time!
* asdfq-shop perks his ears at the magic word
You said it, not me
[23:09:41] <robin_sz> http://www.porkolt.com/other/shocking/apache/gunship/attack/iraq/kill/war/footage-of-apache-gunship-taking-out-iraqis-795.html
I may have a prerelease of gcam for testing sunday evening