the vacum pump we are using isn't that loud
[01:20:31] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/vacback.JPG
[01:21:04] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/vactop.JPG
have not drilled the center holes all the way through yet.
(where the hole is in the aluminum cube
almost ready to cut some circuit boards :)
I really need to hook up the home swiches to emc - they are there - just not hooked up yet.
so I don'
t have to manually line things up each time :)
what - is everybody driving to the workshop?
i'm cutting bearing mounts in acme threaded rod
i've seen vacuum tables like that with a grid cut out, then you put little rubber gasket in the grid to seal against the part
just chipped off 3 threading tips in a row..
* fenn sighs
fenn: robin siad the foam gasket isn't necessary
I know for me that I'd be cutting thru the foam material
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/module_helper/ (Submakefile module_helper.c):
change module_helper to allow any module placed in emc2's module directory.
by doing this, it becomes possible to add new hal modules without changing
^^^ first commit from fest?
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/module_helper/module_helper.c: remove debugging print
hm, I've gotten this error twice tonight:
HAL:56: ERROR: pin 'iocontrol.0.user-enable-out' not found
HAL config file /home/jepler/src/emc2/configs/sim//core_sim.hal failed.
but just running emc2 again works
could it be a startup race?
[05:30:36] <jepler> http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi-files/sandbox/colinear.ngc http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi-files/sandbox/colinear-halscope.png
it seems to alternate between two different speeds in consecutive segments
or maybe a different speed during the blend? I'm not sure. (can I have halscope plot if it's in a blend or not?)
um, where does it actually move in colinear.ngc?
oh g90 is relative, right
damn... there's only two people in ontario for EMC? me and this other guy
eh, probably there are more ;)
they should sign up now.
dang... wonder if that person ever finished making the ball inside?
[07:23:30] <A-L-P-H-A> http://www.frappr.com/?a=photo&gid=37499&pid=628400&src=flash_slideticker
you can ask him..
dunno who made it
just saw it on frappr
only cool thing I've made is this... http://lloydleung.com/gallery/Past%20Machining%20Projects/2004-03-04_Cube_1.5%5E3/
I appreciate the pat on the head.
feels so good to be patronized.
I really mean it ;)
I never really machined anything .. if you can believe that :D
but not milling
even drilled holes ;)
don't have a milling machine?
make one? hehe
I would.. but I'm too busy working on the software
maybe one day..
wanna retrofit a lathe one day
a friend of mine has a brand new one
I have a schublin 102
nice little precision lathe
what emc are you running?
I don't know now... I honestly haven't turned on that machine in what maybe close to a year now
some BDI ver.
ok, so probably not emc2
you should try it ;)
I made a LiveCD the other day
I'll try it.
how's EMC on a lathe working these days?
are there lathe functions now?
maybe now at fest there will be some further improvement
make the fest in Sacremento... so i can kill two birds with one stone.
it's already running
EMC-Fest this week: www.cnc-workshop.com
doesn't it start today?
you going? [take it no]
only 9-10 timezones away ;)
oh now it did
done downloading it
that took a while to download 672megs
yeah. 40 minutes
you are also across the ocean.
280 kB is pretty decent
I guess... :)
let me know how it works
aj, i'll try it in the morning for you.
does anyone of you use debian linux?
Bo^Dick: ubuntu and debian is very similar
Bo^Dick: I have a few (debians, bdi & ubuntus)
all are debian based
alex_joni:: are you using emc with any of the robots you work with?
chinamill: nope, they have their own control & closed interfaces :(
So what stuff do you do with the robots?
If I may ask.
hi from agentina
fenn, alex_joni are you there ?
Are you in Argentina?
yes i am
alex_joni will be back later
i was talking to him and fenn yerterday and i have some feedback
can i leave a message to him trought the ChanServ ?
I think Argentina would be a good country for bio gas. Farmers use a stables in the windertime right?
could you help me with an installation problem ?
what is your problem?
bio gas is in developmet. what is "stables" ?
in door place for the animals
do you run emc2?
indoor place only for milk i think, not for eat
not yet running
so farmers put the cows i a barn (house) during the winter?
Are you trying to install emc2?
i cant install it without internet connected, the step 7 in the How-To guide doesnt work
Do you have the URL to the how to guide?
meanin of stable: http://www.answers.com/stable
for animals, look at meaning 2
no, the cow is always in the country i think, i've never seen big houses for them
i live in a city, i dont know so much about cows but when i travel i see them always in the country (during all the year)
right now, using the "emc2-install.sh" method of installation on ubuntu requires internet access to run it
yes and no
I installed ububtu without internet
and then later added EMC2 plus kernel etc
it is possible but needs a little bit of pussleing
chinamill: did you use emc2-install.sh or some other method? It is possible to download the needed .deb files and install them manually.
yep, i downloaded and installed manually
I am working on a CD image which contains emc2 but it's not ready yet.
the emc2-install.sh doenst work for my, i dont have internet access
you need to download all these packages some other way, and then put them on your computer. bwidget emc2 emc2-axis libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common linux-image-2.6.12-magma rtai-modules-2.6.12-magma
VNR: jepler way is the only I know
dpkg -i yourpkt.deb
yes, i downloaded all the packages, but when i try tio install those some said that they need a dependency
such as g++3.3 and gcc-3.3-base linux-kernel-headers installed
i use dpkg -i XX to install
jepler: I guess it would be ok to install anyway (like -f with rpm)
i found some dependencies in the ubuntu 5.1 CD but some others not foud there
-f = force when using rpm
do you mean all the files from "dsplabs"? some of these files come from the main ubuntu site. if you install emc2-dev or kernel-source from "dsplabs" then it will need many more packages
I think these packages come from the ubuntu site: bwidget libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common
the rest from "dsplabs"
what is dsplabs ?
where did you download?
Just try to intall these packages bwidget emc2 emc2-axis libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common linux-image-2.6.12-magma rtai-modules-2.6.12-magma
VNR: dsplabs is part of the name of the site with the emc2 debian packages. I figured that's where you donloaded the packages.
i found the packages from the search engine of ubuntu
cool emc2=famous :)
found in packages.ubuntu.com
it's if you install emc2-dev or kernel-source that packages like g++ are needed. but you do not need any of these packages if you just want to use emc2.
can you try to only install bwidget emc2 emc2-axis libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common
when i boot again i coul choose the linux-image-2.6.12-magma kernel and it works, is this ok right ?
yes that is a good first step
i have the sources of emc2 in a tar.gz, do i need to install a .deb ?
to use the source from a tar.gz is more complicated and may require more packages
where can i get the emc2 in .deb ?
if you try to install bwidget emc2 emc2-axis libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-common ontop of what you have, it will proably work
you will find chris radek's debian packages here: http://dsplabs.cs.upt.ro/emc2/dists/breezy/
this includes emc2 and emc2-axis
[12:10:49] <jepler> http://dsplabs.cs.upt.ro/emc2/dists/breezy/emc2/binary-i386/emc2_2.0.0_i386.deb http://dsplabs.cs.upt.ro/emc2/dists/breezy/emc2/binary-i386/emc2-axis_1.3a2-0.4_i386.deb
ok, they are all already installed, i only need the emc2_2, i will try that
OK. I have to leave now. I hope we can talk later.
VNR: it was nice to meet you
thanks you jepler, mee too
darn, just missed VNR
jepler: in case you get around to read this.. I asked VNR to download the LiveCD and apt-cdrom add & install emc2-axis from the CD.. was wondering how he did
He said he wounl download the packages individualy
I think anyway
alex_joni: I know the company where you work manufactures robots, but what do you do with them, What is your work?
chinamill: we only sell them, we don't manufacture them
they are made in germany, and we set them up, program , service, etc
xfce4 is really nice
wrong window, sorry :)
Yes, its nice, and light!
hello jmkasunich-fest ;)
how are things over there? setting up & all?
the festcam is going to be a bit dissapointing
the "developers corner" where it is easy to set up is somewhat secluded
ahh.. n/m ;)
the area I'd like to point the cam at (where ray is teaching classes,and where the retrofit activity is) is hard to set up the camers
or just use a normal snapshot cam ;)
I either need a long usb cable, or I have to put the drivers and such on another box
don't waste too much time on this, it's not that important ;)
fotos should be enough..
I wanted to make a movie afterwards ;-)
what types of things are done during the fest?
hmm, last year there was a list..
teaching classes dounds strange (I thought of it as a small convention-like thing)
Lerneaen_Hydra: it's a workshop thing going on
then besides that there are some lectures about emc
so mechanical things?
and some emc developers gathered up to code together
and they might continue on the mazak project
and so on
EMC-Fest this week: www.cnc-workshop.com <- check it out
lectures about emc? that sounds... strange. Why not read documentation (coughcough) or come to IRC or something?
Lerneaen_Hydra: why does it sound strange?
I've seen lectures (didn't attned though) on almost any software
shouldn't an OSS project have enough documentation written so people can figure it out without meeting IRL? (which type of lectures are we talking about here, how to do stuff or why-you-should-run-EMC?)
there is never that kind of documentation that replaces a lecture by someone who knows the stuff
because of the feedback
Ray Henry will present a class and discussion each morning
Monday -- Introduction to EMC2
Tuesday -- Using the Hardware Abstraction Layer part 1
Wednesday -- Using the Hardware Abstraction Layer part 2
Thursday -- Ladder logic programming part 1
Friday -- Ladder logic programming part 2
that's true, however I'd like to think that IRC/forums can get close to that (although with a much higher latency)
Lerneaen_Hydra: I tend to feel the same way, but I think some people are different from me.
I've also got the impression that lectures=>expense (by that I mean !=free) which is not to good from my perspective (a student)
Lerneaen_Hydra: If you're already attending fest, I don't believe the lectures are an extra cost.
alas, I'm not coming, the travel distance is a bit far
yeah, I know
we swedish users will have to host our own fest ;)
Lerneaen_Hydra: there will probably be an EU fest next year
probably in germany.. so half way ;)
half way from here to sweden ;)
that's much closer
or the other way around :P
more like, hmm. 1/5 of the distance (and the cost)
not sure about the cost.. I found cheaper tickets to the US than sweden :D
where are you from?
as in romania ;)
oh, that sounds very strange
sweden sounds like just a hop-skip from romania, but I assume that the price is much more expensive becuase of the lower trafic, or something
the fest next year, is it likely that many people from the US come to that, or will it mainly be people from europe?
I'm just in the middle of the screen
probably a few will come
googlemaps doesn't have nearly as high-res an image over gothenburg as they do in romania... http://maps.google.com/maps?f=l&hl=en&q=&near=sweden&ll=57.72684,11.918106&spn=0.029514,0.10849&t=h&om=1
we're of more interest ;)
apparently so ;)
hm, where are we having a eu fest?
I beleive alex_joni knows. Somewhere in deutchland apparently
I'll be there
I may be there as well
anonimasu: it's not sure yet, but it would be nice ;)
[15:30:50] <alex_joni> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yss9zTjlbXE
alex_joni: that was... strange. Not what I had expected at least
Lerneaen_Hydra: but funny still ;)
it's nice to hear that in the morning :D
I had an odd issue saturday. All I can figure out is z stalled. But for the life of me I can;t get it to do it again.
skunkworks, did you ever finish making that ball within a cube frame? it was make out of some resin.
[16:38:36] <A-L-P-H-A> http://www.frappr.com/?a=photo&gid=37499&pid=628400&src=flash_slideticker
I was drilling 250 or so holes - it drilled 3 and didn't back out moved over and broke the drill
No - that was walnut. - need a longer ball end mill to do a decent job.
I will - there are some people where I work that would like some :)
the program is here - http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl/emcinfo.pl?Oword
just made a vaccum table to do some circuit boards http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/vactop.JPG
[16:44:10] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/vacback.JPG
what are you gonna hold on it?
this is what I was drilling when z stalled. goofed aound with it - tried to get it to stall agian and couldn't. Restarted the program and it dilled all the holes no problem
right now copperclad board to make some circuit boards
But it will be nice to have for otherthings
how much suction does it need to hold?
using maple plywood for the replaceable top - could try mdf also
I can put a 3X4 inch circuit board on it and can't slide it around
jymmm: rephrase - I don't understand
for? ---> <skunkworks> using maple plywood for the replaceable top - could try mdf also
as it is now you can't grab onto anything smaller than the outer dimensions for the slots?
I will be drilling through so the top will have to be replaceable
how much force do you need to apply to move the pcb/other object along the X or Y axis?
skunkworks what are you making?
the slots are the back side of the board - the top will only have the holes
the slots are for the vaccume to be routed to the holes
do you have an o-ring or something similar or just place it against the wood?
Jymmm: right now - milling circuit boards.
just place it against the wood
1hp vane vaccum pump
or there abouts
the holes are need to be drilled all the way through in the center - have not done that yet
where the big hole is in the aluminum cube
skunkworks: Instead of ply or mdf, you could try that dark brown high density stuff. sur to not leak
about 1/4" thick
I would then have to put something in the hole to support - the way it is now - 3/4 inch maple plywood deflect around .005" in the center of the hole (5.25 in diameter)
[16:55:23] <A-L-P-H-A> http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2006/05/free_calls_to_all_landlines_an.html
skunkworks: make a grid under the cover, then no deflection
you could even use mdf for that, just cutting big holes and slots.
A-L-P-H-A very cool
right - for now though I don't have to machine over the hole :)
skunkworks make sense?
ok, fair enough
The hole opens into a chamber - I cold maybe glue another piece of board that would set into the hole
glued to the vaccum table top
probably deflect less
to keep it from bowing?
if I understand correctly... sounds cheese
or make a metal disk and mill out the bottom of the table top to set on it
you mean for mounting to the metal table already there?
[17:04:00] <jmkasunich> http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml
- the NIST lathe running cradek's threading code
that lathe is tiny :|
but cool nonetheless
who's running it? Reminds me of "Norm" =)
everybody wearing plad or what?!
plaid and facial hair
"Welcoem to the EMC Yankee Workshop"
the travel seems to be exceedling large in Z axis, why is it so long in Z axis?
jmkasunich It's kinda funny if you think about it... remember all those pics for the 70's where they are wirewrapping their new computer kits?
All had facial hair and plaid too
I think that is the first time I have seen what cradek looks like
* Jymmm hides his one plaid shirt out of site (hey, it's lined and my only jacket... This is California ya know)
cradek: Wave to the camera!!!
someone needs to set up live video - Its fun for a while but now I actually want to see the laith move :)
heh, the demo on the forklift they are just using a shopvac it looks like
Jesus, the USD is worthless these days.
[17:28:58] <A-L-P-H-A> http://www.xe.com/
I think I should buy some in a bit
is there any live streaming of the fest somewhere ?
[17:30:16] <jmkasunich> http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml
live streaming at one frame per minute
why the low framerate? would an increase overload the server?
there is only DSL here, don't want to eat it up with uploads
we probably have 15 people sharing the network
oh, it's privately hosted?
i thought jepler was hosting this.
the images are hosted at a big isp, but they need uploaded from the the camera to the hoster
it is what it is.....
its okay, nice
it is... non-pooh. but not roses either.
Damn it hits the corners fast! http://www.vakuumtisch.de/videos/demo_fraesen1.avi
its more than we've ever had before, so quit bitching
I'm not bitching, just curious ;)
notice the delay right before the last corner?
Jymmm: what do you mean by hits the corners fast?
A-L-P-H-A: I take it that delay is for the downward feed
there was a slight pause... looks like it wasn't reading ahead, or anticipating stuff.
Lerneaen_Hydra, could have ramped in instead.
why would it need to slow down, the corners have a relatively high radius
A-L-P-H-A: that's true, but if programmed by hand maybe the person didn't think of that. or something. yeah.
what is 33hm?
Aw fuck me... http://www.paymentsnews.com/2006/04/redspin_triple_.html
"...including the use of transmission control protocol/Internet protocol (TCP/IP) -- moving ATMs off their own dedicated lines, and on to the banks' networks." <--- Is it just me or does that sound like a really really bad move? (sure, they save a bit of money, but come on, data of that importance on the public internet? That's just begging for trouble)
IMO no encryption at all (only a one-time pad comes close, but is impractical at best, and not implementable at all in this case) is far inferior to having a dedicated line
err, I mean any encryption format at all is inferior
i'm going to have that "loituma" stuck in my head all week
alex_joni: have you heard the flash version that loops forever?
no, and I'm not sure I want to.. ?
but.. hit me ;)
i think its better actually
[18:48:09] <fenn> http://loituma.antyx.net/
What is the link to search for ububtu deb packages?
I love that song :D
Good Article... http://hartfordadvocate.com/gbase/News/content?oid=oid:153106
Question. Who is in overall charge of this project ?
bigAl: in charge of an open source project?
bigAl: there is a BoardOfDirectors for the EMC project
* fenn yawns
Jymmm: thats pathetic that the fbi couldnt brute force wexcrypt
Ya for the good guys! (For clarification.... fbi !+ good guys =)
well it goes to show just how bad the terrorists are in this country :)
did you notice it was an "air gun silencer"
what's that mean, like a bb gun??
no, airgun is this thing that shoots plastic pellets... sorta like paint ball, but w/o the paint.
it's like bb/pellets of old, but now plastic.
let me put it another way. Is there a single person than can make some minor changes now and at a later stage apply larger patches ?
any of the 50 or so developers can do that
...thats sorta the point of open source
and where would I find a list of these people ?
bigAl: what changes?
two minor ones to start with.
you can see there a list of developers
if you want I can do that for you.. got nothing else urgent right now
mail me a patch?
No patch. not needed.
oh, ok.. then maybe join #emc-devel
and let's talk in there
how many channels are there for emc ?
the people want to know!
three, four mailing lists, now two irc channels.
bigAl: big community
it's all giacus' fault
bigAl: EMC its a BIG project :D
I love it (and I hate/boycott Besy Buy too)!!! http://www.improveverywhere.com/mission_view.php?mission_id=57
* giacus waves to fenn
I'm thinking to migrate in australia :P
or new zealand
* giacus is tired to watch soccer
why bigAl quit here ? he could run to copies of IRC client to join 2 channels :D
Jymmm: what's up ?
how are going reality show there ?
we got 3-4/day until now ..
scanning 40 tv channels can't found an interesting program
ccjoe is now known as carlg
ho, found an old western with Henry Fonda ! :P
carlg is now known as ccjoe
03jepler 07HEAD * 10emc2/tcl/tkemc.tcl: (writes 100 times on the blackboard) I won't make one more tiny tweak before I commit a change and after I test
you at Roland's?
ray there too?
looks like you guys are squished pretty tight behind some machines
yes, ray, jmk, jepler, me, etc
just thought I'd ask if you wanted me to bring anything - Steve Stallings & I are leaving tomorrow afternoon
none of us can think of anything
we all brought pretty much everything
not surprising ;)
i have some stg cards, kulaga dro board, grex, etc...
bring the stg and kulaga
I want to get all the drivers to match the "canonical interface" so they all can be used for threading
and maybe we can write a driver for the kulaga
do you have docs for it?
should I bring my own PC? or are there a bunch there already?
never too many PCs
yep, pretty simple board
ok, I'll get something togehter for a pc
i'm hoping to spend the whole time working on software - specs;code;docs;etc...
mshaver: do you have docs for the mightydrive?
pinouts mainly - i'll dig it uip
who moved the fest livecam ? :D
there's a cam?
[20:34:20] <giacus> http://linuxcnc.org/compile_farm/festcam.shtml
I'm looking at that
boy that's depressing.. they put up survey stakes in my yard
move them a bit.
dont worry we will give them some hell
seen a couple of boys typyng but not machines running yet :P
why? didn't you want your land surveyed?
wonder if 20:34:56 is theyr local time
mshaver: surveying for destruction of the place i live, to build shitty beige houses
no, s/b 15:40 in IL
oh .. 22:41 here :)
well, that's progress... or perhaps regress...
the landlord wont even answer the phone to tell us how long we have left
you have a lease?
yeah til august, we've been here 3 years now
well.. that's why i'm building a hexapod and not a 5000 pound concrete mill
pack it up in a suitcase
then you have till August... Buy a place out in the country - property is cheap out in the midwest (compared to where I live anyway)
yeah we are discussing our options
do you guys heard about IBM reseach about new technology of memory card ?
data will be stored used atoms
we could have 1 terabyte memory card soon O_O
amazing.. this would be a revolution
anyone can store all data in few cm of card, computer will be just a box
a cellhpone will record 400 hour of video ..
03cradek 07HEAD * 10emc2/tcl/tkemc.tcl: typo
mazac panel: http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi-files/sandbox/panel.jpg
yay.. good pictures at last
i over-sharpened it so that all the letters were legible
alex_joni: now get to work!
* alex_joni still can't read much
don't have a bigger one?
high all.. ; )
how MUCH of rs274NGC_3 has been implemented>???
i fly when i can
I think all..
but I've been wrong before
hey dmessier :P
yeah, in emc1
in emc2 it's currently not enabled, but most is there
cool.. ive seen or heard of no implementations... odd
why NOT enabled???
there were a few people who used it
dmessier: only copied over, not fully tested or anything
and there was not much request for it
well as a fanuc emulator.. it NEEDS it
i think i can sell a retro onto a working machine at work
and should it go well it gcould be a GLOBAL retro solution
I think we are looking at the top of jmk's head :)
we have plants in England, France, China , Canada
that picture hasn't updated in quite a while
I think jmk is moving the cam to another machine
dmessier: there's not a heck of a lot you can do once you have the probed points
i removed the cam... (kids were showing their BUTTS)
dmessier: for example, if you wanted to rotate the part program to match the stock you plunked down on the table
there's currently not any code to do that
but i might be able to solve that... WE have a VERY extensive FANUC library of basic functions
fenn: sometimes (mostly?) probing is used in inspection apps
test / measure stuff
or to reset coord.. chk for distortion...
alighn and split the differanc.. stuff
our fanuc control had a rotate command - I played with it for a few minutes and then figured out it wasn't activated. That would be cool - but could be done in cad (how we did it)
center of rotation
i have the params to turn it on if youd like.. somewhere
that is what I heard - you get a new epromm - and bits to turn on. The eprom was not even needed.
9000 series params
what breed of fanuc
like I said - just what I heard. the controller runs a laser - pretty basic stuff.
been a while - OE?
does that make sense?
why would you rotate a laser without the mechanical axes to tilt??
that sounds right
o's were limited.... bare bones plug and play control for the loer end stuff
its been a while
i worked many to the BONE
then the meldas come along
this laser cutter what made in WI
but they just made the tabel
prc laser - fanuc controller
we had a laser "forgot the name" fanuc 6... was basic pos'n z pierce m code.... 2-d profile...
[21:53:11] <giacus> http://www.unitedwestandmovie.com/
who you standin WITH.... we're tacking our bat and ball and GOING home... ; )
haha these guys are funny !
[21:54:49] <giacus> http://0100101110101101.org/index.html
your KIllin me
you will be scolded when you get home...
ever seen an IRATE bird.... YOU will...
dmessier: If oyu think they were showing ONLY their butts, I think you have a lil surprise coming
could CL handle a full ladder from an existing machine manual???
it has limitations as to number of rungs, contacts, coils, etc
dmessier: if you have the nerve to write it..
so it would depend on how big the ladder is
ah... and where do those limitations lie??
dmessier: deep inside..
loadrt classicladder_rt numRungs=50 numBits=50 numWords=8 numTimers=10 numMonostables=10 numPhysInputs=30 numPhysOutputs=30 numArithmExpr=4 numSections=4
could 2 cl's be run together??
that is from the demo-mazak config
those limits are known to work
thats not many....
dunno how much bigger you could go
the shared memory block can _probably_ be made bigger, but that is untested
need the hardware to try unfortunately... and too late to learn then...
no, only 1 CL at a time (from the source code documentation)
i have seen 5000 rung ladders on some toshiba machines...
* fenn runs screaming in terror
* insmod classicladder_rt <numRungs=10> <numBits=500> <numWords=50>
* <numTimers=8> <numMonostables=8> <numPhysInputs=10>
* <numPhysOutputs=50> <numArithmExpr=100> <numSections=10>
that's the default values
Way too limited at the current time ti REALLY consider a FULL retro.. and sell a better machine..
dmessier: that doesn't mean you can't set up more than that..
sell = $, what do you expect for free? You have to put something into it if you want to make money with it
i sell to MYSELF.. when i work for FREE
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wow that was worse than the old "emc2 actually compiles" messages
can you guys please keep it down with the title changes?
are we all a wee bit sensitive.... that time of the month guys??
jepler: we'll behave
na na... ; ()
jepler : No, not really.
* skunkworks hums uncomfortably to self in corner.
they are on the RAG
skunkworks: try the loituma
just rock back and forth skunk... it helps me...
skunkworks thumb sucking is permissable in moderation
i must escape to re-enforce the coffer - lest they should close in on my abode... ; ) bbl
dmessier: If you just put those twwo boys of your to work, you wouldn't have that problem.
good afternoon all
how is the fest going
i'm bit away from there :(
so am I. I cant help anyway. way too dumb
yay. my rails arrived.
bill203 t-track rails?
or linear ?
alex_joni Dont quiet your day job
alex_joni you'll starve trying to make it as a comedian
bill203 ah, ok
now I just need something for the "Z"
* alex_joni is already starving..
but those are short, I should be able to find cheap ones.
what are the rails for
my diy cnc mill project.
bill203 are you building it from scratch
bill203: any recent pictures?
[22:23:48] <bill203> http://photos.xmission.com/bill/v/machining/
are the pics, I dont think I've added any lately.
since I haven't had any time to work on it..
bill203: have you ever looked at the plastic stuff
which plastic do you mean?
my next router will be made of this stuff
never heard of it.
some sort of composite plastic material?
thought Igus makes energy-chains or what you call them
cheap. strong and capable of high speeds in dirty environments
yes and they have linear stuff too
* bill203 googles.
bill203: suggestion... title your images =)
ewwwwwwwwww... I got some igus samples, wasn't impressed for the price.
heh, I'll add some titles.
AND.. you have to load the slide yourself
Nice sales staff though.
btw, seen some very nice round energy chains lately
yes, that go in more than one direction
especially usefull on welding robots
or plasma cutters (the hoses & wires for the head)
ah. Wouldn't work for my needs (though i do have some energy chain, but not installed yet).
I got it cheap at the flea market, but the plug won't fit thru it! lol
bill203: I checked the price on this stuff and it was as cheap as e-bay but new and replaceable bearings and such. http://www.igus.com/show_dw.asp
tonyp: I kinda see it like this... igus -vs- tequilia and asprin.
tonyp When I finally got dont to the nitty gritty, they dont say their stuff is for precion maching type applications
I want it for a router for art work and such
how much play does it have?
tonyp I suspect it might have it's uses, but I just didn't want the headaches.
I am not holding close tolerances
I got my rails off ebay for basicially $100 per axis
that is cheap
bill203 see the link tonyp posted
my whole router cost about 3000 from ebay and such
Also igus has a "Break in" period after install
yeah, I'm looking it over now.
Jymmm: that is why it's cnc. break in happens when your sleeping
$3000 on a router?
a built from scratch one?
you must actually be doing a good job on yours, unlike me. :-|
linear bearing on all axis
* Jymmm doens't think he should tell tonyp how much his cost
been running real good for the last few months
I dont have any pics yet though
tonyp does the $3000 include tooling, clamps, router itself, etc?
I wish they had published prices.
it's a router, not a mill, right?
big one, for cutting 6*4 sheets?
I am now waiting for the unstoppable stepper motor stuff from marriss
It is a router for wood
24 x 40
tonyp you have a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG wait then
any pics of thing's it's made?
just some signs but I dont have them posted anywhere
I want to do 3d archetectural stuff
tonyp: like models?
fenn: Hey, another use for your foam... http://www.woodworkingtips.com/etips/etip010810sn-closer.html
moldings, 3d carvings in cabinet doors.
right now only 2d. not smart enough yet
Jymmm: agh! what a waste of good foam!!!
HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
03jepler 07HEAD * 10axis/tcl/axis.tcl: remove debugging statement
anyone know how to take a schematic of an electronic circuit and put it on a board for cutting on a router
there's a free version
I dont know anything about it
there are some cam scripts out there for converting to g code
I am not an electronics person
heh why'd you ask then
tonyp you will after you install it, huh =)
If anyone wants some free plans... http://www.plansnow.com/cmpdn001.html
my eagle "ulp" for turning board layouts into emc2 gcode files: http://unpy.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/eagle/ulp/
i use "other stuff for G code"
A friend of mine got me a book for running a car on hydrogen and I need to build a circuit or two.
no support, documentation, or warranty is provided
tonyp: LOL, tell your "friend" to watch MythBusters... they just had an episode on it.
oh.. you'll need to build more than that...
I have a fox news video of a car running on hydro
it can be done
i have an ex-propane machine thats closer than yours...
go to unitednuclear.com
and click on research & development
i KNOW it can....
tonyp sure, but those "machines" that are suppose todo the conversion to hydrogen dont seem to work very well
Jymmm: why not?
i want a kit for all the propane cabs out there... ; )
fenn because they are stupid and ripping ppl off?
they couldn't go to the moon 40 years ago
bottled hydro.. until a valid fuel cell comes from my basement
not bottled, made on demand
too much POWER required....
square wave signal.
from a 12 volt source
through a coil
tonyp that's EXACTLY what they tested on the show
to make HYDROGEN??? what arent YOU sharing???
nobody asked and I havent built it yet to see if it works
tonyp Just watch the show, then if your friend still wants to build it, go for it
I want to build it. where is the show
it NOT enuf... ive been brewin Hydrogen since 1978 to work this... ive run stuff from a baloon attatched to a carb... ; )
tonyp mythbusters.com maybe? discoverychannel.com ?
it'll work... for 12 sec.
why not longer
lack of safe pressurizing method...
dmessier: do you have an e-mail to send a video to
it get dangerous FAST at pressure..
Somebody forgot to add MD5 files .... http://www.cncgear.com/EMC/
i love blowin it up come fire work time...
all the kids gets a cup that pops
then tilt the cup...POPP
water and co2
no other remnant
dmessier:may take a minute for the video. dial up here
whatever... i online
dmessier: what kind of setup did mythbusters use
ive worked a little with chemical formation.. but it needs a tractor trailor to hold RM and mechanisms..
ask Jymmm i start watchin' then remember i trried that...
and goto sleep
but i dream BIG
i was called a dog... and the dislexyia in me said god
some things you remember...
no i KNOW im jesus's son...
and the wendigo... is a Very bad spirit .. but he teaches rather than take
why do do guys do not register you're nickname to the server ? :(
50% of people seems do not it
sorry I didnt know how to do that
im a retrard
/msg nickers register yourpasswd
/msg nickserv help register
giacus: what needs to be done to register
i have a password???
and identify to the server with /msg nickserv identify yourpasswd
/msg nickserv register <password>
dmessier: you're not identified
this mean I could use you nick ..
and you've no way to get it after :P
also you arent able to open query
> /msg nickserv register tonyp
you have to choose a passwd
i could be mini me
no not use youre nick as passwd
no space before /
try in the server window
is better ..
*** Jymmm is an identified user
*** giacus is an identified user
ahh i think i DID it
one would think so, if you have a few kids.
unless they're the mailmans.
i mean reistered my nick
how do you know when your registered
type /whois <your nick>
tonyp: you can just do a /whois nickname to know it
TonyP is already registered
but i is
'Giacomo', reminds me of the insurance company geiko.
i get no given nickname
yes, you're know registered but you need to identify to the server
then do: /msg nickserv identify yourpasswd
safer to type "/ns identify password" if your client supports "/ns"
how do I do that
Denis, uh... you broke it.
tonyp: what the reply of the server in the server window ?
see im an alien....
its ok ?
please give the computer back to the location you purchased it.
i brek everything.... sorry
I can't see you as registered user :(
cause he's not
you can try '/whois tonyp' from yourself
to check it
but i can bust it better yet
neither does dmessier...
you missed some thing
ill get it right yet
whois tells me my name.. but i already know it ... so thats not fair
doing /whois tonyp you should see a line: *** tonyp is an identified user
if you don't see it.. something is wrong
what if you dont know your passwork
that0s the name
then my reg didnt work either... we are BOTH morons...
[23:18:44] <giacus> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
I guess Im not identified
I dont know my password either
alpha come get ALL the hardware...
you used it before when you did the first command: /msg nickserv register yourpassword
is also a moron
you just have to use /msg
nickserv register yourpassword
the first time
after, only /msg nickserv identify yourpasswd
try to read he faq on the url I pasted
YOU are gonna make someone a GREAT wife... ; Giacus.....
i ove ya
sorry about your girlfriend..
but WE digress
tonyp: did you read the query I opened at least ?
are you able to read it ?
as not identified user you should be able to read the queryes but not to reply
dmessier: np :)
dmessier: did you get the e-mail
dmessier:did you get my e-mail
To set up limit switches - is there a writeup somewhere?
I looked in the stepper hal file and the pins don't seem to be there.
parport maybe ?
03jmkasunich 07HEAD * 10emc2/src/hal/hal_priv.h: Increase size of HAL memory area. The 64K limit that I _thought_ was a problem actually isn't, and we need the space for complex configs.
* giacus add another bank of ram :D
nice job jmk ;P
giacus: going from 64K to 128K is almost unmeasurable these days, I don't think you need another bank
when it becomes 64M, then we worry
kidding ! :P
640kB should still be enough?
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