so i've got this here laptop with no cd drive, usb, and my redhat boot disk with pcmcia drivers doesnt work..
i've tried hooking the laptop hard drive up to a real computer but it won't boot?
7.3 i think
er, sorry that didnt make sense
you mean you want to boot the laptop from floppy and install over the net?
but i need to load the pcmcia ethernet drivers from a floppy
I've done that with redhat 7.x and 9
yeah that's how i installed linux on it before
but it seems the linux HD is having troubles
I think there's an extra floppy with pcmcia on it
oh so you have that floppy too
but they're toast
you know how floppies go bad after a couple years
just make new ones
if you're installing over the internet, use redhat 9
or a newer fedora I guess
i wanted to put puppy on it and be done with it
its really slow
that'll be tough without a cd.
ubuntu without gnome works pretty well on slow machines
the idea was to boot off puppy in a real computer and hook the laptop HD to the IDE bus
or freebsd 4 if you don't need emc
i have this adapter thingy, but its not working..?
I don't know about laptop drives
it's too old to boot from usb stick I'm sure
* fenn_shop tries again
hmm it seems to be computer malfunction day today
He needs to check the jumpers on the lt hdd.
It's either setup as single master or cable select.
A little feed back on the torch height control: The Campel design is not HF(/HV) proof, but they said they would adapt one board if I buy one; I will investigate more.
I was working on tuning etch servo last night. I was able to find some PID values that work better than the defaults, but when I turn on backlash compensation I still get terrible ringing in ferror at the beginning of a move that changes direction.
How can I tune the PID loops to these two very different things: movement under normal acceleration, and movement induced by backlash compensation?
I guess you are talking about emc2?
yes he is
there was this guy from sweden that has the same problem
he had 0.2mm of backslash..
and he got a sync error when it compensated
brass doens't oxide, does it?
I'm trying to figure out what/how to make a electric tool setter... was thinking brass becasue all those lil weight sets use it.
anonimasu: My ferror and min_ferror are such that I don't get a following error, but it still looks bad in halscope
yeah, but emc errord out on him
I gave him a pointer to how to preload screws.. :)
anon: I think it is me you think of... It got better whem raisen STEPGEN_MAXVEL, STEPGEN_MAXACCEL alot about 80 %
as I have no clue about a "sync" error
But this was a while ago... I think somethings has changed in the cadobasis
it was 2 nights ago
did you raise STEPGEN_MAXxxx because of followin errors while jogging, or while running programs?
while jogging and running programs
whoo hoo... we got the v22 osprey's nose landing gear to mfg..
chinamill: If you have a program that requires 80% headroom in STEPGEN_MAX* with the latest TESTING version, please e-mail it to me (firstname.lastname@example.org) along with your configuration files.
2 are the GROSSEs components ive ever see
steering collar has sections down to .150 wall thicness... whit 2 quadrant gears on the top
mat'l is "super hi-tuff"
jepler: this was maybe 3 months ago... I finaly went back to emc1 on the "chinamill"
chinamill: ah -- it's changed a lot in 3 months, the new planner is much better at not violating the acceleration and velocity constraints.
Still, my other project get ferrors very easaly on the Z axis... (I have set the speed quite low now=no ferrors)
(ferrors while jogging)
the recent TP enhancements didn't improve the situation with jogging. There's still "headroom" required there.
The same is probably true of systems with backlash
both of those things are outside the control of the trajectory planner
Jepler .. is it my understanding that JOG is at 1 speed only and NOT variable??
dmessier: In AXIS, you can alter the jog speed by moving the "feed override" slider. In tkemc you can use the "Axis Speed" slider as well.
dmessier: and of course you can select a jog increment, but that doesn't affect the speed.
ok.. then how does Jog need so much more headroom?
I think that in particular jogging doesn't respect acceleration limits
but I'm not sure, and I don't think anybody's looked at it.
ther should be an S-type accel/decell in the jog cycle
jogging does honor all limits but you need 5-10% headroom
actually 5% should do it, as that's what TP uses
i figured TP would still be "handling " the jog
chinamill was talking about 80% but that's in emc2 from 3 months ago
dmessier: the TP handles MDI but jog goes through a simpler path
jepler: not surprising, the old planner would sometimes violate accel by 100%
with NO velocity constraints??
dmessier: like I said earlier, jogging respects constraints but needs 5% headroom
a jog move is only a predetermined mdi command
or should be handled as such
dmessier: conceptually, yes, but that's not the way it's written.
if tp handle mdi it sholud do the same to a JOG
it's not quite that simple.
it could be
Still I get Z ferrors with quite moderate speed... and I tested alot of headroom (and other ways)
Unlike any mdi command, a jog goes for an unknown distance
change the jog button to a macro and go
(a continuous-mode jog)
yes there's no MDI command that says move until I release a button
chinamill: if your emc2 is months old, you should update it
* anonimasu nods
but a continuos loop would till i hit the other button
I cant have maxvel (Z) greater than 6 (metric setup)
This one is the latest...
It is another setup
(latest deb pack)
hmare thoose changes in the deb yet?
chinamill: this is steppers?
what's your base period?
the package version is TESTING-2006-03-12 ?
maybe you are requesting a velocity not possible with your period and scale
Before I continue I have to admit that I made a small sinn when I updated the package...
the dkpg wanted to overwrite my ini so I backed it up and then I replaced it without closely looking at the diffs
chinamill: you should not modify the sample configs - you should make your own in your home directory
but I doubt this is the problem
shame on me ;)
Ill look for that baseperiod
halcmd will tell you if your requested velocity is not possible
I can't run emc right now, maybe one of these other guys can help you
ok.. never used that for that...
This it not a big issue for me... rather for a general knowledge for the future...
if it's a bug we'd like to know, but I think it is probably just a configuration problem
I think this is the command chris is talking about (type it in a terminal window):
halcmd show param stepgen | grep maxvel
compare those values to the requested maxvels in the ini
Then we need to write some wikipages on how to configure properly.
the baseperiod is 0.000050
yes, I agree, it would be great if you could help
if it shows a lower value than you wrote for STEPGEN_MAXVEL in the ini, it's because your PERIOD is too long to actually issue enough step pulses
I have not loaded the realtime kernel at the moment so I guess I cant rumm the commands, right?
run it after you start emc
I have to go, I'll be back later
I cannot run emc without realtime kernel loaded, right?
going to try to get emc running emulated..
what do you mean "TRY" ?
Jymmm: I'm half on my way to the sofa
I missed about 3 hours of sleep last night..
I am not trying for too long ;)
need to make space on the usb drive first
* anonimasu is scared to put stuff on the hdd...
windows ate my windows partition
a bit ago..
wait a moment I'll give you the message it gave
Did you install/upgrade nix after installing M$ ?
but it's not like the nix install is new..
boot sector gone sour
you've got no clue what you are talking about..
windows ATE it's own partition..
I've been running on the same install for quite a while..
it locked up and wouldnt boot :)
so I'm running *nix so I can use the computer atleast..
its m$ what did you expect...
dmessier: I dont expect it to kill my partitions..
I guess that's the final nail in the coffin..
win 98 ws good for 98 days and started to sour itself
anonimasu: Tha'ts funny... in 25+ years of dealing with M$ as a tech and SysAdmin, I've never heard that happening, .
Jymmm: I think it's the hd that's dying..
never seen that message before..
i dont expect any other to be better... it could be that.. HD thing
anonimasu did you download a test utility from the hdd mfg and test the drive out?
nope.. it's just a hinch
if *nix lets you see it rip your data off.. and start over with a new drive
going to do that later..
going to add ntfs support and force the data off there..
luckily I've got work at the work laptop
and nothing important on this one
luck is nice sometimes
better be lucky than good..
both is SWEET
Jymmm: I've seen a w2k server lock up the routing settings
anonimasu: That's not "M$ ate the hdd" though.
* anonimasu just calls it m$ ate the partition..
as the nix partition is just fine..
ive had systems in NT4.0 not let me see stuff ON THe BOX but i could see them from the shop
I long for a decent OS
with a good wm
anonimasu: You're not in Kansas anymore Toto.
as far as M4 goes... i'll stick with 2000 pro... seems the better of the bad stuff
Jymmm: I bash linux too, I am not impressed by xorg/xfree86
the wm's are good but I'd rather have one good then 30 customizable in every way possible..
dmessier XP is fine; just be aware of the security issues, dont install SP2, and disable all the animated overhead bullshit.
don't install sp2?
Jymmm: haha, I'd like to be able to use my normal apps though
my wife uses Xp.. i dislike it... too much "legacy" software wont run
Jymmm: but, I guess you cant have it all
anonimasu: You can, OS2 is STILL being developed and sold
I didnt know that..
Jymmm: howcome you never hear of it?
dmessier what legacy sw?
anonimasu hihg backend server only
jepler: SP2 restricts/limits/filters many things. It adds more overhead to the whole system.
[17:00:37] <anonimasu> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/os/warp/
anonimasu yep, that's it
too bad it didnt take off
It did, just M$ Marketing was better than IBM's
it didnt take off..
None of outr OS/2 servers ever died/locked up
yeah.. but I'd like a workstation that did the same
And we were running mail for intel and navy.mil too
the only real trouble I've had with m$ is the infernal patching..
and that it sometimes behves a bit strange..
and will require a reboot/restart of services to add users to domains..
You dont need to rebott to add users/objects to the domain
somtimes, when adding a workstation it'll refuse it..
Only if it already exists, not enough licensing, or anable to contact other DC's
The things you're mentioning are more PEBKAC than anything else (less the install service/reboot thing and certain networking/routing)
M$ is a desktop/corporate product
how about the included apps and viruses for them... I don't thik the are something that a rich company can stand for
[PEBKAC] Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair
Jymmm: you are wrong about that..
anonimasu I know what you mean about a "Good OS" though, I doubt it'll ever been seen though.
Jymmm: if something dosent work, one time and works the second time with the same settings are you still saying the problem is between the keyboard and chair?
have you seen plan9 form bell labs? It is a fair OS
or a fair start at least...
Jymmm: so explain it to me..
anonimasu You just have to know WHY it happened - that's the biggest PITA thing about M$
and their lac of documentation.
Jymmm: I didnt feel to happy about buying support from them because the routing wouldnt work..
Their Resource Kits USED to be wonderful things - hell I still use commands from Win3.11 days even today. But they no longer documet that shit .
Jymmm: worked wonders the 3rd time I tried it though..
* anonimasu nods
The RK for W3.11 was 8.5" x 11" and 250 pages - that was excluding MS-DOS too. Imagine a RK today for XP
It be about 3000 pages
What do you think of the memory leakage of the DCOM system (wich crached
crashed alot of apps and made OS to freeze
MS never fixed it and when more memory got more common they got off with it on the desktop (people usually reboot at least once a week).
chinamill: M$ doesn't make any money "fixing" things =)
Jymmm, thats an unproven theory ...
mainly beacuase M$ has never fixed anything :)
They have tidy:ed somewhat at least...
Still very BIG but crashed more seldomly now
I thought XP was going to be OK
but having started using it more, it has problems
needs regular reboots, or it just goes bad
XP's not bad for paying video games and some limited software development with, say, python or mingw
stops networking and just goes slow after a while and has to be rebooted
Anyone seen anything about HURD.... It was a nice aproach for a deasent size kernel
but I certainly never let it run for more than a few days at a stretch
I have to reboot say once every three weeks on XP
never runs much more than a month without crappign out
rob: did you monitor the mem use, maybe you use an app with mem leakage (make the OS more or less hang after some time).
my XP usually works for months
not spotted any HUGE apps, just a general slowing down, unti eventually it wont do anyting sensible
hey, look what I got ...
* robin__ dangles the keys to his new factory
and maybe a new laser too :)
3mx1.5m, twin tables, sheet loader .. but only 1800W
Hi alex_joni, the cample THC was not HF ready... But they said something about trying to fix that
alex_joni, and best of all .. it might just be FREE ;)
robin: what are you manufaturing?
chinamill, subcontract laser cutting of steel, and fabrication of assemblies up to 1 tonne
robin__: had to weld today, stick ;)
wow, how do you get your customers?
we are going to buy a stick
came out smooth, I got the hangs of it :D
Has anyone seen these lighting fixtures in bulk/wholesale? http://static.flickr.com/56/120816392_7dafe87763.jpg
alex_joni, a stick welder is always useful for those "hard to get into" places
robin__: or portability
but that's about it :D
we'll buy a big old 3 pahse machine, so wont be that portable
hope it's not one of those rotary converters :D
Jymmm, most of the signmaking suppliers do that sort of product ...
alex_joni, nah, will be an Oxford oil-cooled one
what is the quality differns in the cut compared laser and plasma?
laser is good
plasma is shit
but expensive for the thickness
plasma is less costly, but worse quality
and I speak as someone who used to sell people plasma systems :)
robin__: Not the sign, JUST the lighting fixture; extruded aluminum, end caps, internal lighting (LED/CCFL), and maybe wall xfmr.
Jymmm, yes, exactly
laser = more smooth 90 degree cut?
robin__: The extrusion I can see, but not the end caps.
chinamill: yes, and very fast too
robin__ I'm thinking out of Asia, but nfc.
Jymmm, they normally sell them as pre made units ready to stick in you piece of perspex
robin__: Exactly, I'm just looking for the lighting part
or the pre-made unit I mean
Jymmm, what .. you mean just the bulb?
robin__: No, (those I have)... "Ready to insert signage"
sorry, im confused now .. I thought you wanted the extrusion, complete with light and endcaps, ready to recieve your routed piece of acryllic
robin__: Correct (excuse the confusion)
well, see any bulk signmaking supplier ... they are pretty common,
I still get leaflets every month for similar things inthe UK
and I got out of signmkaing 10 years or more
they NEVER give up those marketing guys :)
robin__: I cant find any wholesale, just other sign making plases.
right ... signmaking places will sell them co,mpleted .. for end users.
Ok, I found ONE, but in the US, so I doubt wholesale pricing.
nah, you need to get to a signmaking show :)
robin__ I aint paying retail =)
Need to find Asia mfg =)
nah, you cant afford it
1) its goingto be 1000 units minimum
2) money up front
robin__: But I can contact their importer here in the US
3) you can get them easily from a signmakers supply store anyway ...
what state you in?
[17:46:00] <robin__> http://www.sign-supplies.com/listings/usa/CA.html
thes guys: http://www.productsignsupplies.com/html/productinfo.html
look like they stock a good range of stuff, I'd be suprised if they dont have them
They dont - they serve mostly the vinyl industry
Shit, they charge $48 for 12"x300ft transfer tape - very expensive place.
well, I guess you need to get on down to a tradeshow :)
Nah, just need to hit the docks!
well, I guess you need to get on down to a tradeshow :)
strangely enough, all the edgelit signs seem to have gone LED now .. that figures
slip the right guy some greenbacks, get a conatainer load
nothing works as well as pictures of dead presidents :)
NOW you know why I said I need to hit the docks.
Port of Long Beach (best), Port of Stockton, Port of San Francsco
you might have to open a few hundred thousand comntainers first though ...
It's funny, in LA you can hit the docks and it's also retail like... just BULK retail.
mmm, possibly for "common" items ...
Textiles, Electronics, Clothing, it's HUGE.... like a giant BULK flea market
They leave enough out so you can see the product, you just buy buy the case/pallet
Toys are the worse I think.
and imported meat thats not been frozen
I haven't seen alot of that here.
mostly electronics and plastics
speaking of which
there is a injection moulder down the road going bust ...
It's funny when you start talking in $0.0004/ea
there is ONE thing there I want ...
a nice N2 generator :)
What do you generate Nitrogen from?
no more poxy bottled nitrogen for me!
mmm ... air
air is 67% N2
easy to extract it with a carbon molecular seive
I never realized air was mostly N2
always thought it was O2 + smog =)
N2 +02 + Ar + other shit
I saw a Hydrogen generator $1500 for a lil tabletop one.
oops, 78% N2, my bad
not much use really if it was electric powered
I think mostly for hobby/jewlery makers
for that it is useful
Especially since they dont offer disposable tanks of hydrogen, and nothing under 5ft in refillable tanks (2200PIS)
but you put more energy in than you get out .. so no use for "energy" uses
same as my N2 gen
I so hate running out of N2
[18:17:39] <robin__> http://www.physlink.com/reference/AirComposition.cfm
now you see why He is so expensive :)
(not that you normally extract it from the air)
yeah, we're running out of it
theres lots in Texas
methane cow gas?
stored undergriund by the gov
ok, off to wall mart.... bbl
they extract it from naturla gas
all gas fields in tx pass it theough a gov faciltity to extract the He
robin__: your cat is typing funny today
Jymmm: wanna make a new friend?
hey guys what you think about xhtml and liquid layouts ?
my brain is smoking ..
giacus: guess what client I am using now ;)
no, www.linuxcnc.org and some java client ;)
I've seen the new joomla style
im tryng to get my website in xhtml with liquid (float) layout
could be nice for my Ipaq, running GPE/Minimo browser
have a small display
I got the layout working 100% good with firefox
now fighting with IE issues :/
when is ok for Firefox isnt good for IE
* giacus take a beer
are the rss feeds working on the new website ?
linuxcnc I mean
giacus, are you familiar with http://validator.w3.org
robin__: I'm playng with it ..
it will help you solve your website format problems ... when you remove the errors, you will have less problems with different browsers
I know ..
essential ... unless you install OpenGlade etc locally
The issue isnt in code validation
I'd like to get a layout compatble with Firefox, IE and Minimo (pda) Browsers
how can you say that? "the issue isn't with code validation" ...
if you have code errors, then the browser will handle them in unpredicatbale ways ...
using div, tables I get different alignments in IE
and backround too .. sometime
so? ... you have <body align="center"> for a start ...
now tryng this: http://www.giacus.org/altro.html
But I have to use separate css at the end
just tryng the layout now
well, until you remove the errors, then anything can happen ...
browsers will not behave how you expect ... first, solve the errors, then see what remains
got a lot of errors
but are simple errors
are U using IE ?
well, I like this layout: http://www.catb.org/~esr/
if you try it in IE 6
you'll see the horizontal scrollbar always apper
but not in firefox
where would I find IE for Linux?
I've a laptop with it installed here around
I do not use it
it just for K4ts ..
when comes here
and Im using it to check differences
are a lot ..
btw, the latest layout I tried seems pretty ok
bluefish it's nice, but no so friendly :(
an attribute value specification must be an attribute value literal unless SHORTTAG YES is specified.
a bit permalous xhtml ..
I love Ruby beause when meet these thing do all automatically :/
just stick some "" around it
or beter still, set it in css
I mixed a bit of code ..
yeah, i'll use separate css file after
element "H1" undefined.
<H1> Giacus Personal Home Page</h1>
* giacus debugging it
giacus, to give you some idea why it matters ....
say you have a wrongly nested </div> within a table ...
some browsers will see the </div> and then roll back, looking for an open <div> to close ...
closing any other tags they see along the way
thus you could close a <tr> or a <td> by accident
if you see what I mean
then the next <td> isnt in a <tr> and .. mess.
thats a random/imaginition example, but incorrectly closing tags can do that ... your <H1></h1> exmaple could cause ti to roll back looking for a <h1> to close .. closing other tags along the way
Hi all. The new layout on linuxcnc.org is realy a great step forward. btw. the new threading ability should be something for the news area
Imperator_: once it's stable/proven enough
Hi alex, ok
Imperator_: I added a IRC client today :D
it's under Contact Us ->
hm the java IRC client freezes mozilla
it works here,
probably a bad java on your side. is it M$ java?
no i think i have installt the real one
odd, I am using it right now :)
ok with IE it runns
robin__: sorry ..
was tryng it
strange, if i chance the nicname it runns
ok, maybe ident was the problem, what nic did you use the first time?
if i take the one it suggests it chrashs
[Global Notice] Hmmm. You know, I could do an April Fool's Day joke, but maybe instead we should make this a group effort. Let's all just go to irc.oftc.net channel #oftc, and tell them that freenode has shut down and has repointed its servers to OFTC, and ask if they're going to be adding more facilities to handle the load. 8)
what's the one?
[Global Notice] Okay guys, thanks for the fun, let's let those poor guys on OFTC off the hook. :)
robin__: This Page Is Valid XHTML 1.1!
good, now should I fix something in the css
[Global Notice] Okay guys, give the folks on OFTC a rest, it was a good joke, time to go home. :)
rayh is now known as rayh-away
ah well that was fun
how are you doing alex
roltek: thanks, pretty good
where do i find the pinout for the messa 5i20 card, i am also using an analog card
they should have it on their site
somewhere under documentation, not sure
ok i here you have been making progress on the halui
roltek: some, but nothing crucial :)
didn't push it very hard
the halui is very important we need to use buttons and switch's for a true control
roltek: you can find the pinout in the sources from mesa
if you need a working Xilinx projekt let me know
roltek: I understand that, right now machine on/off, estop reset and lube/coolant/mist on/off work
will add a few more soon, these are the easy ones
the hard ones are about jogging & such
great i know you have been and will continue to do a good job
roltek: wanted to ask you something
I heared you know your ways around CNC lathes
cnc lathes,cnc mills,vertical and horizontal and gear cutting machines
ok, I'm interested about CNC lathes, as that was missing from emc
i do it every day for a living
can you describe to the non-lathe-user (me) how it generally works?
I mean with a simple example like a thread
to start out with you are missing g50,g96 g97,g76
what code you need to write, and things like that
I think I've seen some 96,97 descriptions (those are canned cycles ?)
g50 -top limit speed for g96 constant surface feed
g97 straight surface speed
what's that mean?
g96- constant surface speed
G86 vs. G87 ?
err,, 96 vs 97
97 -straight programmed speed
96-speed compared to dia of work
ok, so G97 always goes at programmed speed, no matter how fast the spndle turns?
proper programing of lathe start lines
g97 s500 m3
g00 x4.0 z0.0 t0101
t0101 calls tool offset on first move
can you provide some comments to those lines?
g97 s500 programs spindle speed at 500 rpm only
my g-code is pretty rusty ;)
g96 s500 programs spindle speeds at different dia. up to max of g50 s 2000
spindle clockwise iirc?
spindle clockwise at mo3
ok, this G96 assumes center of work in the middle of X?
correction clockwise at m04
ok, it's a spindle on ;) nm which direction
I still don't get G97 S500 vs. G50 S2000
tools in lathe can be turned up or down so rotion changes depending on what you are doing
g50 is spindle max speed
G50 S2000 means 2000 RPM for the spindle, that's the max allowed
ok, I can see that
does not have to be used with g97
roltek: ok, I understand G50
just that way we were taught to progam always put it in
so you don't forget
ok, how aout G97 ?
g97 is programed spindle speed
ok, so spindle will turn at 500 RPM
when yuo use g96 you will get better finish
what do you mean "g96 s500 programs spindle speeds at different dia." ?
speed will increase as you get closer to 0 dia.
how do you specify the diameter?
or does it track the tool position?
on a lathe you have different cutting speeds depending of the radius you are actualy cutting
that is why you program g50 s2000
Imperator_: I can understand that, but I don't see where you specify the diameter
in rolteks example
so the part does not come flying out of chuck
roltek: lets start again
G50 S2000 sets maximum speed to 2000 RPM
G97 S500 sets speed to 500 RPM
now the machine moves from X0 to X2 for example
does the spindle speed adjust?
in a g96
ok, say G96 S500
how does it know to what diameter the 500 RPM correspond
ther is a formula for suface speed
\i don't have it with me now
roltek: not what I asked
but rpm is not a measure of surface speed
when you are at X=1 there should be some spindle speed
when at X=2 another
how does the software know what speed at X=1 and what at X=2
or otherwise said: at what X does G96 S500 correspond?
there is a formula for that
is X = 0 always the center of the work?
roltek: there can't be
there can be a relative formula..
if I have speed 500 at diameter = 2", then at 1" I need whatever speed
g96's units must be in distance/time, not rotation/time
cradek: oh, then it's not spindle speed, but surface speed
but you dont know R
I assume r=x
fenn: you do, cause you have your position
right, what cradek said
or r~x at least
what if you have a tool on either side of the work? like a cutoff blade on the rear toolpost
mumble tool offset mumble
tool offst's on lathes work differently than mills
most lathes have a geometry offset and a tool offset
could you explain what those terms mean?
toolofsets are small numbers .001-.002 exc.
gemotry is setting tool 1 and all other tools are set offf of that
tool ofsets are tool whare offsets
[23:34:34] <roltek> http://www.manufacturingcenter.com/tooling/archives/0406/0406shop.asp
alex does that help
* alex_joni looks
roltek: yes, that's clear now
g33 probably should not be used for threading
g32 or g76
you should be able to handle most threads with that
looping should never be used in threading
well, G76 does looping, doesn't it?
why not use looping?
most post processer's handle g32 and g76 not g33
about spindel speed, i think if you are using G96 then S100 means not 100upm it means 100m/min cuting speed
if you are teaching people to program it should be done at industry standards
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I see, so G32 is only for threads?
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my book says G33 is threading, i can't find G32
all industrial controls will have g32
G33 U-2 Z70 K.4 I2 F3 means: thread is 2mm deep ; 70mm long ;tool takes 0.4mm each step ; thread ending is two thread windings; thread pich is 3mm
i don't know if this will work
6. Sample Threading Programs
6.1. Synergy 1/4-20 thread program
Class name: American Standard Thread Class 2 External
Class id number: 11114
Major diameter: 0.25
Pitch diameter: 0.2175
Minor diameter: 0.1959
Angle of thread: 60
Initial depth: 0.02
cleanup passes: 2
N0010 T0100(INDEXING TURRET TO TOOL)
G96 S410 M3
G0 X.35 Z.1 T0101(CALLING TOOL OFFSET ON 1ST RAPID MOVE)
G32 Z-1. F.05
(2 -SPRING PASSES AFTER FINAL DEPTH)
G0 X5.0 Z.1
you can do same thing with g76
problem with g33 is most post prossers don't handle it
where's the estop !!?
ok, so G32 sounds like G33
I mean the current G33 that's in emc2 ;)
and you are using loops
for the multiple passes
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roltek's _not_ using a loop, he unwound it
i have 4 post prossers at my shop for cad cam and none handle g33
jmkasunich: yeah, but it's the same thing if you write it 4 times, or you use o-loops
roltek: ok, I understood that G33 is not standard
programed code in wiki for senergy is wrong
if you are going to used a canned cycle than use g76
you mean this: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Lathe_Code#Synergy_1_4_20_thread_program
if you look at my code it follows discription of thread on wiki page
yeah, only difference is G32 vs. G33
and I think that depends on how you setup synergy
e.g. what CAM postprocessor you use
wrong where does the x-3. whatever come in
he is starting at .1 to -1.0
might be a different tool