let me know when you can talk about said invention, I'm curious.
I do hope to be able to use some emc2 components in factory automation.
working name is the fingerburner. Can't talk till it issues sadly
USPTO has been dog slow lately
heh, you invented my soldering iron?
well, back to packing. I'll try to get on irc from up there.
enjoy your trie
"Only two things come from Texas, and you dont have any horns."
hey - your missing a m
Question: Has anyone updated the application info for the G2 and G3 commands recently?
And if so, where might i find more uptodate info, compared to the rs-274 pdf I printed last fall.
what do you mean application info?
g2 and 3 are standard as far as I know. Incrimental I,j,k also r.
[01:06:23] <skunkworks> http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9ibyehZFhZEGfYAgVBXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1MGtoM3M1BGNvbG8DZQRsA1dTMQRwb3MDMwRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZANERjA1Xzc-/SIG=143t03tgv/EXP=1142384601/**http%3a//www.centroidcnc.com/dealersupport/downloads/822mseries_c12.pdf%23search='g2%2520g3%2520examples%2520cnc'
centrod but has some good examples of g2 and 3
There is no precise description of the various IJK, R etc in the command description. I'm thinking R=radius of cut, but its not working that way at all.
But I just found, in a different section, a better description that might help me
The first link from skunkworks looks like what I have already. And so does the next link from cradek
mine has pictures ;)
My confusion stems from a 'there ought to be" a way to have it start where its at, and cut an arc of so many degrees or radians, cw or ccw, with a radius R, but thats not how it works
since that doesn't exactly specify the endpoint, I think the gcode designers probably thought these other formats better
So does mine I think.
with both endpoints AND a radius, you have a fully-specified arc (actually there are two of them - you select which one using +- radius)
Well, It sounds like a heck of a good idea to add a var D for degrees to travel from present location now doesn't it?
well, not in my opinion, but I suspect your question was rhetorical
(for the reason I stated above)
Yup, and one line I tried cut a nice arc, but wrong side out! And, no, it really wasn't rhetorical. If that was done then it would be the total end of the endpoint rqadius doesn't match errors.
never used r as it was not on the machine I originally learned on. So i,j,k is my way.
Also, I got into a following error today and finally had to ghive up and restart the program and refind my locations on a half done part.
Where the 0,0 location had already been removed...
Yup, & wasted half an hour during which time it moved the x (virtual, not actual) by about 20% more than the move I'd commanded from the mdi line, but the table inly moved maybe 10% of that.
thats half an hour of hitting F2, enter, etc...
I have had issues with an estop (f1) while moving and when taking it out of estop I would get a following error that would repeat
there was a bug about that in the tracker - jmk marked it fixed, but I think it's broken again
is f1 estop? I forget
Anyway, now that I've found that variable table and its descritions, maybe I can make it work.
let's remember to talk to him about it next time he's around.
Thats certainly what happened to me I think, altho I've had other following errros that would clear in one or 2 cycles of the f2,enter keys
Since I built it, what 2 days ago?
yes to abort you should hit esc, not f1
[01:22:21] <skunkworks> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1390123&group_id=6744&atid=106744
I didn't, the machine itself developed a following error at about x=0 on its way to the image position on the other side of the part
if you can reproduce the following error, I'm interested
sometimes you can isolate it by trimming all the irrelevant lines out of the program
About a 2.5 inch move IIrC, and it died almost smack in the middle of it.
That was from the mdi entry, it was sitting at x=1.640 and I told it to g1f75x-1.640
if you can reproduce it, please get me your machine config and a sample program that causes it
With the feedrate override sitting at 90
I will if I don't get this going before the night is over. Right now I need to go check out what I've learned
back later, or tomorrow guys, thanks
well I'm running TESTING-03-12 on my machine now...
tort.ngc is very ... musical
I bet. ;)
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900 watts for X axis
sounds about right
actually, I could put 1350W continuous, or close to 6000W peak
into any of my axis motors
too bad they're $900+ each to replace :(
that's the right price too :(
[02:14:49] <SWPadnos> http://www.clickautomation.com/products/index.php?func=show&pid=2036&cid=300
luckily, I got a set of 3 for $325
with only one bad encoder
(which would have been $450 to replace, but I got some smaller motors with the same one, and swapped)
you have just one motor on X right ?
that motor could be nice
but inertia for my motor should be around .000593 Kg M^2
where that is 1,58179 Kg M^2
If I did the right inertia conversion
lb-in-s2 -> kg M^2
* giacus sigh
cant find any with that low inertia around
damn - I was about to go to bed ;)
err - Hi, Gene
* SWPadnos spells it Stephen, but what the hey :)
Hows your headache.now that the headache is back, ahh, Stephen, well, I WAS in teh ballpark
yep - very close
Steve also works for me ;)
anyway - how are you this eve?
I'm beginning to think there is a sign problem in the g2/g3 code someplace, I've gone thru 3 beers, what do you think
it could be the beer
But its taken me 4 hours to do that too...
Anyway, I can carve and arc on one side of a circle, reverse it to start at the same point and carve it going the other way for the same distance
to carve a curve on the end of a steel plate about 2x3"
hmm - I need to look up R
but there appears to be no way to goto the far side of the circle and carve a mirror of the first curve
for example, doing a full circle by making two mirror-image halves?
R is the radius of the circle, but somehow the anchor point for that circle isn't terribly clear in the 274 manual
lemme take a look, and see if I can parse it our
No, the clamps and such are in the way, plus the steel does go that far in the x directions anyway.
pastebin or here
oh - you can pastebin the code. I'll read the Kramer doc
It''l take a min, I'm not even logged in out there, and apt-get won't let me install mozilla*
try firefox of some sort
I tried that too, and pastebin.com isn't responding, doi I have it right?
yep - lemme check it here
ok, they seem to be having trouble. just paste a few lines in here
Theres about 45 lines
are they all significant?
or can you show me one that works, and another that doesn't?
Pretty much, yeah probably
#1 = -0.155
#2 = 0.002
#3 = -1.640
This is a pain, I'll do it in 10 line hunks
go for it
#1 = -0.155
(depth of z cut)
#2 = 0.002
(increment of z advance per cycle)
#3 = -1.640
(radius of cut and y pos at start)
#4 = 1.640
#5 = 0.0
#6 = 1.327
(end of x travel per cut this direction)
#7 = -1.327
(end of x cut this direction)
#8 = 1.0123
(end of y cut this direction)
#9 = -1.0123
(end of y cut this direction)
These set the vars up. The comment is below each
G1 F60 x0 y0 z0
G1F50 Y#4 X0.0
G2 G17 X#6 Y#8 R#4
#5 = [ #5 - #2 ]
o001 WHILE [ #5 GT #1 ]
#5 = 0.0
First loop, carves right rear corner ok
G1 Y#4 X0.0
G3 G17 X#7 Y#8 R#4
#5 = [ #5 - #2 ]
o002 WHILE [ #5 GT #1 ]
#5 = 0.0
second loop, moves to start of third on at the end
G1 Y#3 X0.0
G2 G17 X#7 Y#9 J#3
#5 = [ #5 -#2 ]
o003 WHILE [ #5 GT #1 ]
And this one has been subjected to the million monkeys theory without results.
that last one was a j, not R - is that intentional?
these havea common center point, right?
Yeah, I've tried one thing at a time now for the last 3 hours. Yes, the common center point is x0y0
no it isn't
err - maybe. lemme think about it a bit
(I'm doing this in my head - no emc machine running at the moment)
so, do loops 1 and 2 both work, and 3 is the only bad one?
The 0,0 point is the exact center of this plate, yes, 1 and 2 work fine, the best I can get out of 3 is abiut a 330 degree circle centered on about -3 for xy
ok. one sec, I'm cleaning up the code and putting it into a file to make it easier to look at ;)
And if I can get 3 working, then 4 by the same method by just flipping the x direction
I think the center point isn't at 0,0
Its intended to be
you start at X#4, which is 1.327 (or -1.327, for X#5)
the radius is 1.640
since Y is 0, the center isn't at 0,0
x at the start should be 0.0
for any cut
sorry - Y is 1.327, X is 0
but (0,1.327) isn't on a circle of radius 1.640 centered at (0,0)
I think that Y is correct, get it from one of the first two loops
it would be (0, +- 1.640)
Yes, but the cut is only about a 50 degree cut per loop
are you intending to do quarter circles with each of the loops?
Les than that
still, 0,1.327 isn't on the circle R=1.640
But if x=1.327, and y=1.1027 for the end points, with a radius of 1.64 its legal
change the signs and its not
you should be able to reflect it across all four quadrants, so sign change should work
This is starting with Y=1.64, and X=0.0 at the start of each active cut
but having either ordinate at 0, and the other being something other than R, doesn't work
well - I did say I was about to go to bed ;)
works for the first 2
well, that's the "trouble" with the R method - the center point will change based on the R value you give it. as long as R is > 1/2 the distance, you'll get an arc
it might just be the wrong arc ;)
That was the trouble when I could get it to show the path in axis, I was either getting an inverted arc, or a near full circle whose center point was about x-4y-4
it's a minor point, but the radius I calculate for those endpoints is 1.669, ont 1.640. the center point may be 30 thou off from 0,0
Humm, I got those from axis by hand searching for the start-finish.
I'd use a trusty calculator
dX^2 + dY^2 = R^2
But I've had the motors get out of step several times & had to re-find the center, probably not dead to the nuts :)
heh - just add 0.030 in X and Y ;)
Ok, but isn't R the radius from the starting point?
hmmm - maybe 0.022
yes, and from the endpoint
so it may not be along the axis, as you hope
ie, the center will be pushed down below the X axis line, because the endpoint is a bit "low"
but that also "pulls" it closer to the start point, to keep the radius the same
TBT I could subtract another 30 thou or so before it gets too close to the mounting screw holes. These are motor mount plates for that micro-mill
ok, so these are essentially curved slots for screws or something?
Humm, yes, I see maybe whats going wrong, and that maybe I need to reset those vars by a few.
what angle are you starting at?
or, ending at
(I guess it's a 0/90/180/270 you're starting at
Wouldn't it be simpler to spec the anchor point, say of the Y, while X is currently zero, and then just tell it the X to move to?
that's the ijk method
Start is either centered X at +Y or centered X at -Y
hmm - not sure what you mean
but here's an idea. the ijk method does specify the center point, but not the radius
since you always reset to the same start point (but lower in Z), you can use constants for the offset
constant vars, that is, like you're doing now
I tried that for about an hour, figureing it would calculate the missing X or Y (but not both) and make the move
Yup, thats the idea here.
no, you specify the endpoint X+Y, and I+J
but that's OK too
you calculate one point, and then it's all done
also, I think that I,J are always relative
But even if I only gave it the X and I or J, or the Y and I or J, its still an arc ending point error
* SWPadnos checks that
ok, say you want to do a 60 degree arc
radius 1.640, starting at Y=-1.640, X=0, center point = 0,0
Yes they are, so if I start at Y=-1.64 and give it a J1.64, any old x should work as it just sets the end point, right? 60 is a we bit long, 50 maybe
ok, 50 degrees
those offsets would be 1.054 and 1.256
as an aside, I think you can do something like "Y - #4" - you don't have to define a separate var for the negative value
The interpreter seems to complain about that
even with the spaces?
oh, right - you have to do womething like [0-#4]
Or I wasn't doing it right. Dunno, gave up and just set up 2 vars a couple of weeks ago when i ran into that
that also works
Well, its got room for 30 or so I think, and they're re-usable of course
don't know the limit, but they're definitely reusable
[0-#4] I'll have to try that
I think that was discussed on one of the mailing lists a while ago
Can't see the firest for all these darned tree you know
Anyway, I'll let you get to bed, I'm headed that way myself as its approachin 1is here
Whats your 20?
same TZ, different latitude ;)
Ahh, a wee bit colder but same TZ
it was around 40 today, I think
I've been out in a T-shirt, raining cat& dogs here ATM though.
we had a downpour earlier
strange, when we should be getting snow still
Thanks Steve, maybe see about this in another day or so, tomorrow I chauffer the missus around bowling
ok. it's corporate tax time, so who knows what I'll be doing ;)
I'll try to take a look though
Chuckle, that always seems to play hell with the asprin bottle here...
yeah, and I get it like 6 times a year
S-corps can suck at times
And I've got to get to them myself, self employed I take it?
I've got an S-corp I own
Whats the S for
so I get to do estimated tax 4 times a year on personals, and then the normal tax return, and the corporate return (due March 15)
I'm not sure. "Small", maybe
it's a corporation, with shares and all, but not publically trades
Damn, no rest for the weary it seems
in fact, I'm the only shareholder ;)
So lets call it a night, thanks
night. any time
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wanna listen some very nice song :D
[13:16:22] <giacus> http://www.corriere.it/openxlink.shtml?http://promo.virginrecords.net/artists/ben_harper/jukebox/links_intl/
4 are available online
I like morning yearning
does it have to insert every tool to get to the one you want?
(was looking at this http://home.insightbb.com/~joevicar3/default.htm
yeah, its an old page ..
I've some idea about toolchanger
sending the spindle directly up to a place where is the tool
not in that way
father had picked up some router quick change holders - they would make a relatively easy tool changer setup.
the question is if emc can drive the toolchanger
les_w: tried something, maybe ..
I think it should. with classic ladder and such
but as I saw, I'd prefer to get machine going up to a place where tools are aligned and tale the right tool
it maybe could be more simple to get working
without adding more weight on spindle
how fast ?
mobile internet ..
I dont know
plenty for a ssh session
mm here I got it very slow
I am at a customer
Edge or umts worked pretty fine
I was going at 1-3 Kb/s here
giacus: you know about the units command right?
very little ..
I just used inertia converter for that
Im not familiar with that :(
if you don't have units, i highly recommend downloading it
good for all sorts of back-of-the-napkin calculations
and you dont even need a napkin
I've the specifications for motors I need to build my next machine
the difficult I'm having is to find very low inertia dc motors
the ones swp has were pretty close
0.00016129745 kg m s^2
hm those are much lower even
but $900 is a lot for just a motor
thats not a problem for me now
I know the prices :(
but I have to find the right type
Im a bit limited with the drivers
[14:38:02] <fenn> http://www.baldor.com/products/servomotors/dc_servomotor/dc_servo_spec.asp?CatalogNumber=MTE-4090-BLBCE
[14:38:05] <fenn> http://cgi.ebay.com/BALDOR-PERMANENT-MAGNET-SERVO-MOTOR_W0QQitemZ7598901737QQcategoryZ25292QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
the first seems to high inertia
it's the same motor
Definition: 0.00027650991 kg m s^2
that's 1/25 the inertia you're shooting for
Im missing something then ..
you need .005 kg*m*s^2 right?
reading at nertia Lb-In-s2 (Kg-cm2): 0.024 (27.14)
cm^2 means you divide by 100 twice
feen look here http://giacus.altervista.org/emc/newmachine.html
latest table in the bottom
these are the inertia value we calculated with les_w
for X: .000593 Kg M^2
hrm.. lemme look up how to convert kg*m^2 to kg*m*s^2
ahhh 1 kg*m^2/1G = kg*m*s^2/9.8
simulating it with motioneering, it gave me just one motor compatible
from danaher database
motioneering is a marketing tool, don't you know that?
thats what les_w used to calculate anything
ok so that baldor motor has an inertia of .0027 kg*m^2
I'm not familiar with motioneering
which is still half of what you're shooting for
so should be ok ?
i just picked a motor that looked long and skinny :)
500L encoder is enough?
I think so
assuming g340 also have steps multiplier
but should be ttl
oh it's a step servo?
i hate those things
whatever floats your boat
anyway, i bet there are a lot of good motors on ebay
so .. .0027
.0027 Kg M^2 inertia is less than .000593 Kg M^2
you sayd half , right?
earlier you said .005 kgm^2
aww i was wrong you said .0005
I was found .0028 inertia motors time ago ..
that is a lot
it's going to be tough to find those motors i guess
i'd increase the torque
or use pinion
to get same results as I expect
how would that help?
for what les_w sayd to me,
i thought gearing down made the inertia worse
higher inertia motor need more torque
i think he means motor torque
and infact, its very very hard to find that motor ..
the only model I found is no more in production
at very low inertia
well, before you drop a couple $K read this paper http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~repanich/Technical_Tools/The
Myth of Inertia Matching.pdf
the other papers in that directory are worth reading too
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THEY terminated my internetconnection :( at least for a month :(
any news ?
ok, im reachable via email. check it daily. bye
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where is a good place to get servo motors? I see stepper moters every where but not so much servo.
i was pointing out some decent servos on ebay earlier
but giacus won't listen to me :P
hey fenn :)
which country ?
hey shouldn't we have a witty catchphrase in the topic like all the cool channels?
they ship ouside of US too ?
already seen ?
says will ship to united states
i bet most people would ship international if you asked first
got the lonik ?
let me try ..
[17:58:26] <fenn> http://cgi.ebay.com/BALDOR-PERMANENT-MAGNET-SERVO-MOTOR_W0QQitemZ7598901737QQcategoryZ25292QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
hey - that's my motor
yah pretty much
no, I mean don't buy it, I want it ;)
coulde be nice :)
this one's abou twice as big as your others
of course, they want $25 in handling fees, so that knocks a lot of people out of the running
not sure if it fit my needs ..
I don't think so. the others are MTE-4070, 28 in-lb
these are the 40 in-lb version, I think
swp you aren't gonna do something dumb like waste a fancy motor like that on moving a knee up and down are you?
I was looking with a certain interest to nre generation servodisc motors
one never knows ;)
actually, I'd just like to have a spare that has the right connector on it
TORQUE VOLTAGE 150 VDC.
mean 150V are needed to get full torque ?
no, 13A are needed
150V to get full speed
the voltage der\termines speed
looking for max rpm
actually, this is probably like my motors, which are 2500RPM, and 40V/kRPM
could be ok
where i'll use only 1000
the coil resistance is around 1 ohm
the voltage spec allows for full peak torque at full speed, with a little headroom
wonders how long is the life of a motor like that running 24H /day ..
you can't really use full torque at full speed, because that would ted to acelerate past full speed ;)
SWP_Away: is your machine moving gantry ?
but you can run the motors continuously at 2500RPM, 13A (whatever that torque is), forever (given that the cooling keeps it within the temperature spec)
well, Ive some few days to think up
that motor looks nice
I also have a big motor here ..
but i dont know specifications about it ..
giacus: you could have been making parts all this time instead of saving up for the perfect motor
fenn: I know ..
first target should be a very fast machine
that's a model 0703?
i really don't want a 'normal' machine
ask Jon Elson for info, I think he has ElectroCraft spec sheets
giacus cus you aint normal!
ok. see you guys later
Jymmm: I fear I chossed wrong drivers too
for what I want to do ..
you still have the receipt right? :)
giacus: Do you realize all the time and effort other the months that you've put into drivers, you could have bought geckos and been done with that?
Jymmm: thats what I bought months ago ..
cant you see it on the pic ?
waiting .. to work
but, for very hish performance motors are maybe poor
anyone using a little mini-itx machine to run emc on?
I think I may buy new gear instead of building one from old parts.
Jymmm: slides arent a problem too
what is breaking me are the damn motors
I need les help to solve this enigma ..
didn't he leave on a trip?
I dont want to lost anything in terms of performance
first of all, can't find a big motor for X with so low inertia as calculations would be
second point, i'm limited do DC servos, 80 V, 20 A
latest chance could be to sell the geckos I already have and buy a complete servosystem
but, so, it could be out of my budget
giacus: Ah, didn't realize you finally got geckos.
Jymmm: already erad ben harper ? :P
[18:25:37] <giacus> http://promo.virginrecords.net/artists/ben_harper/jukebox/links_intl/
good sound from california
I love Morning Yearning
eard today for the first time
tomorrow evening I should go to see Keith B. Brown here
for the weeekand comes anna.. and we stop to work :/
I have to solve this isse soon
are the geckos rated to run 80V bus voltage?
max voltage is 80
or is 80 the maximum voltage
max, for what I know
they also have step multiplier that could be usefull in some case..
I choosed G340 for that
and my cousin is working to build the plasma table base
he'll use my steppers
and emc2 ;P
don't plasma have to move really fast?
steppers I've are enough
for thin sheets
the issue is another
and the start ..
he have a very nice plasma cutter
cut up to 40 mm mild steel
could do very nice jobs
but if you're cutting thin metal you have to go faster
max speed I reached without issue is around 28 inches/min
with the router
but you will put nice ballscrews on it right?
er, fast pitch ballscrews
mm he already have some nice leadscrew
but he's looking for straps
a system with a 'wire'
robin_sz sayd he likes igus
i guess you can get really high ratios that way
think at inkjet printer system
is slow ?
fenn: theyre slow with leadscrew I think
i meant low ratio i guess
have you seen hektor.ch ?
but the driver system seems to be unknowed
closed maybe ..
dinner call .. later
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ugh scriptographer has such a horrible website
it looks very linuxy for a mac program
holy crap that's the worst website EVAR
jepler: which one?
"Your browser is not able to show this content directly. This webpage was optimized for Mozila and Internet Explorer
I had to see the content
duello berlusconi - prodi on tv ? :P
giacus: yes at 9:00PM
* giacus smoke
hey guys here we're ready for the first fight berlu
one month yet for politics elections
2 minutes to any answer
the camera shows only one
if berlusconi speak, the camera don't show Prodi and its mouth
ah, TorbaX we got stallman in Catania for 27, you know ?
[19:43:34] <giacus> http://catania.linux.it/
TorbaX: latest thing I seen in Matrix was like a reality show, with the peoples applause ..
i prefer a real debate as this evening they will do
just talk !
B. vs P. !! they don't have the possibility to debate
it's a false duel!!
but maybe youre right
* giacus dream a better world
I'll be taking a look at the HAL handbook, but can anyone tell me which component I would use to generate a pulse train where the duty cycle depends on the input value? e.g., input = 1.0 -> output = 100% duty cycle; input = 0.5 -> output = 50% duty cycle
jepler: nice question :)
it could be usefull for servos right ?
Yes, I want to drive drivie small servo motors based on the duty cycle of a signal on the parallel port
[20:05:59] <jepler> http://emergent.unpy.net/index.cgi/projects/01142347802
I tried something .. with poor results
jmk maybe know more about it
yeah, I'm sure he would be able to tel lme
btw, congrats. The diagram idea looks nice
I hope it work
if not, my investment is lost!
coulde be nice
even if it works for larger servo motors, the problem is that there are not enough signals on one parallel port to drive 3 axes
Jymmm: well, it's not a very big investment. $25 in motors and $15 in other components
is an investiment in term of time also
jepler: ah, I never saw the diagram
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TorbaX: go go goooo
torbax a rai uno c'è berlusconi :-)
K4ts: he know that :)
berlusconi do miracles!
like Padre Pio
K4ts <---- Wino
he's god brother
ah ah Jymmm do you want?
K4ts: I dont drink wine at all.
jepler: was talkin about vino :P
damn tab completation .. ;P
* giacus_tv is rolling on floor
TorbaX: are you listen ?
* giacus_tv sigh
funny eh ?
yes like totò
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anna, berlusconi seems in difficult ..
its a mine impression ?
diable for hair!
talking about brain remaining in italy ..
time ago I posted a link here about it ..
Jymmm: maybe know
* anonimasu fires up msvc++.net
watching tv ..
I've a link for that ..
about tecnology and progress..
thats the true.
where go italian brains ..
I'm happy for Jymmm
[21:15:22] <giacus_tv> http://www.beppegrillo.it/eng/2005/12/dreaming_of_california.html
and they are talking about young engineers ..
berlusconi is sayng no.. isnt true that ..
30 days yet !
Jymmm: 17 18 19 march i sing for competitin karaoke
talk about sturdy: (big image) http://www.cnczone.com/forums/vbgarage.php?do=getimage&id=19
K4ts: I have a nice song for you !
hopefully that doesnt need a login.
K4ts: wait ..
K4ts: you have to learn a song
ah ah giacus_tv
I've the song for U
let me see the end of the 'show' ..
italy is a great country !
I like the final
new generations need to believe in something
something !not berlusconi
anna , ok
then, you need to learn this song
giacus_tv is now known as giacus
go to: http://promo.virginrecords.net/artists/ben_harper/jukebox/links_intl/
click on the link: Morning Yearning
and listen ..
thats is for you :*
you should know what Both sides of gun mean
entrambi i lati del fucile ok ?
you can see a nice video clicking on Watch video Better way later
learn to sing that song !
what azz ?
the text ?
whats the problem ?
giacus: you came 17 18 19my copmetition of sing ?
with my classic guitar
nice your song
you like it ?
yes is beautiful
I recorded it
I mute tv
* giacus playng mp3
K4ts: Im sure if you sing that song you'll win
just leran it
ah ah last position
I sing zarrillo
with my van basco
K4ts: we really are in the hands of these peoples ??
yes giacus :-(
is there a better wa somewhere ?
K4ts: do you like M jackson ?
I love it
but ca u explain me a thing ?
why peoples change,
after get the power ?
because is bleachhhhhhh
maybe its a rule
I dont know yet ..
that why I believe in something yet
I believe in me
should be enough :)
(22:54:14) (L)Non ti scordar di me(K):-): :|
(22:54:20) Jack: hahaha
K4ts: came to msn
giacus is now known as giacus_plk
If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
join musica amore dance !
paltalk voice.video room :)
k4ts is singing ..
nmap -sT -P0 -Paranoic @host174-150.pool873.interbusiness.it
great voice :P
A: 6.4 (06.3) of 175.0 (02:55.0) 0.8% 65%
Playing /mnt/camera/02 - Track02.mpc.
KC and sunshine band
MPC file format detected.
Opening audio decoder: [mpcdec] Musepack audio decoder
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, floatle, 262.1 kbit/9.29% (ratio: 32768->352800)
Selected audio codec: [musepack] afm: mpcdec (Musepack audio codec)
the call of the wild beacons... job offers commin out mine yin-yang this week
yeah... decisions... decisions... decisions...
[23:20:21] <dmessier> http://search1.workopolis.com/jobshome/db/work.job_posting?pi_job_id=6863241&pi_search_id=523655080&pi_sort=POST_DATE&pi_curjob=17&pi_maxjob=102
thats MY current job... should i apply???
maybe they'll fire you ;)
and hire som youngster ;)
with 10 yrs exp???
i thought YOU might apply...
anon.. i am the youngster...
but i GOT BITE
[23:38:57] <dmessier> http://search1.workopolis.com/jobshome/db/work.job_posting?pi_job_id=6853573&pi_search_id=523655080&pi_sort=POST_DATE&pi_curjob=28&pi_maxjob=102
this was what i considered last week internally
i like the sounds of DROP testing.... ; )
what does that mean?
i did an 8 ton mine skip once... tore up 300 ft (100M) of timber before she stoped... and blew the crap out of the CEMENT bags we used for weight.... it was a dust cloud from hell
I am not following :)
got into EVERY NOOK AND CRANNY in the shaft house
you have tyo DROP test man lifting devices... to ensure the safety mechs work
03rayhenry * 10emc2/configs/stg/stg_io.hal: added tool loopback
they are steel pawls that BITE into the timber guides that go down the mine shaft
act as brake shoes in an emegency
hey rayh !
giacus_plk is now known as giacus
SWP_Away is now known as SWPadnos
i could only DREAM of drop testing an aircraft...
do you lift it and drop it from x ft?
seems like cool stuff ;)
seen some cool video aof a 747 at flight speed.. coming in on final glide...the gear stands.... but the fuselage looks like a snake Just prior to catestrophic failure
the WHOLE BODY shakes itself to bits
rayh: the IT tranlation on 'Hal for Integrators' is done
and a pilot flew it in.... farkin idiot
gotta be med involved or outstanding warrents
it is not updated at lates emc2 release, but could help anyway
please, add a link to that to emc2 doc page
Great. How do we make it available?
how available ?
it isa avaliable at http://www.linuxcnc.org/Hal_Introduction_IT.pdf
please add a link to emc2 documentation pages
in the website