03cradek * 10emc2/src/emc/ini/iniaxis.cc: stop rewriting AXIS sections in the ini file
03cradek * 10emc2/src/emc/rs274ngc/rs274ngc_pre.cc: clean up hackery that was necessary with sudo usage
giacus is now known as giacus_afk
03cradek * 10emc2/src/ (11 files in 6 dirs): warning cleanups: now compiles with -Werror
robin was that you 3 hours ago in #autocad in efnet?
bill__ is now known as bill20ir
bill20ir is now known as bill20r3
hi there - i'm toying with the idea of building a small wankel engine, which i will have cnc-milled (housings, rotors, gears and eccentric shaft) by a machine shop - ideally i want to design the entire thing in the computer so i can just give the machine shop some files and get the machined parts back. I also want to do this with Linux. Am i dreaming?
I've looked, there's not any really really good CAD for linux
what abour brl-cad?
unless it's hiding really well.
I've not used that one.
there's a placeonline that will make parts from your models, if I could remember thier url..
yeah i really need parametric 3d solids i think since polygonal modelling won't have the accuracy - i could model all the parts in blender, but accuracy i think would be an issue
if thats not the case, it could be an option for me...
well, let me ask another question - say i have a .DXF of a part - what is involved in turning that into a CNC-millable object i.e. G-Code?
disclaimer: I'm a newbie too.
hehe ok :)
but you need CAM software, it actually plots tool paths
and "cheap" for cam means its under a grand
but if you're hiring out the milling, they'd handle the cam
why a rotary engine, just for fun?
yeah pretty much
i'm a bit of a rotor-head
in that i own an RX-7 and a small sachs rotary
which i plan to put in a scooter
but thats another story
<-- vespa nerd
yeah i'd like to put it in a vespa..
* bill20r3 thinks
a lammy would probablly be easier.
has this idea got past the "you know what would be cool..." stage?
yeah anything i do i'd basically create a custom subframe/swingarm and use a bike gearbox/chain drive - the vespa would be just the body shell and front forks really..
not exactly, i take delivery of the engine tomorrow
a vespa engine you mean?
no, the rotary
the previous owner fitted it with electronic ignition, a motorbike carb and a turbocharger.. its kind of begging to be put into a scooter ;)
oh, I thought you meant to build one.
i do want to build one
that would be another one
i told you i was a rotorhead ;)
you allready have a scooter frame?
if when it gets done mail me some pics to email@example.com
and I'll love you forever
k, will do ;)
what is the engine you're getting tomorrow from?
its a sachs engine - i think they used them to power outboard motors
[06:44:24] <bill20r3> http://search-desc.ebay.com/sachs-rotary_W0QQfkrZ1QQfnuZ1QQftsZ2QQxpufuZxQ5A1
could be.. this one is about 150cc
definitely same manufacturer
sachs made some mopeds too, you could do a sachs-sachs
hehe i could i guess.. they make some pretty cool looking bikes like the sachs madass
i saw one of those the other day but its pretty expensive and seems to be rather underpowered
I vote lammy chopper.
yeah, the 50cc
I think there's a bigger one too.
it's like naked bike, in scooter form
i have a little 50cc pgo (taiwanese) that i'm also wanting to hot up, but fitting the rotary would be a problem since its my daily rider
it's a smallframe, or P sized?
pick up a honda elite to ride..
its a PMX-50.. quite large for a 50cc scooter... just needs an expansion chamber really
I have an et3
i'd like a 'proper' vespa/lambretta but too many $$$
with 50-special parts on it, the square headlight and tiny tail light
yeah, they're not cheap anymore
cool.. i gotta go out to pick up dinner.. will be back in 15 minutes or so if youre still here
[06:52:34] <bill20r3> http://scoot.net/scooterist/Bill_in_SLC
the hangs i had where related to some buggy patched kernel of mine.
anyone ever seen that one ? : ImportError: libnvidia-tls.so.1: cannot handle TLS data
the minigl import by axis leeds to this on my box :(
i blame nvidia
hmm, when i use softwarerendering it work. bad bad nvidia.
i also still see the graphical plot of axis wrong scaled when running
got emc2 and axis form the last hour
what's wrong with the scale?
the "white lines" on the screen would not get painted red. ninstead the cam job viewn in white is ploted in red very small in a corner
running G21 ?
can you make a screenshot?
and give me the program & ini ?
this is latest AXIS? (from CVS? or axis-latest.tar.gz ?)
does the program contain G21?
or did you run G21 manually from MDI ?
[11:15:56] <cncuser> http://puppysit.hinternet.at/shot.jpg
which one ?
13:16 < alex_joni> does the program contain G21?
13:16 < alex_joni> or did you run G21 manually from MDI ?
13:16 < cncuser> no
go to Code Entry
and look at the list of active G-codes
check for G20 or G21
ahh ok, there is 21
ok, that means it's in metric mode
I suspect the first time the program gets loaded it's in G20 (inch mode)
and afterwards it gets switched to G21
try to use G21 in the ini file for g-codes at startup
or in the program at the beginning
let me know if it works
damit the cam routing of cam.py seems random :)
the routing is kriss kross. one objectform after the other... all circles, all squares....
* alex_joni goes away for a while
anyone got a clou how to get the gerber drillcode (drl, txt, gg1) into gcode ?
[13:41:09] <Jymmm> http://engraving.majosoft.com/html/body_making_plt_files_for_circuit_board_milling.html
theres more, but I can't find the link(s), might google gerber to gcode
did that, thanks
cncuser: I know cradek has some tools to get eagle files into g-code
alex_joni: yes, i allready used it.
alex_joni: but thisone i only have in gerber. and i cant import into eagle. so i use cam.py. alls except the drillingstuff seems to work
just downloadet caexpert
lets see, maybe it can do something with it
hmm, ok, thisone only knows dxf :)
Anyone have experience with the ndiswrappers?
hi A-L-P-H-A , sorry, no clou
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nice black out here :)
damn it's bright outside.
03alex_joni * 10emc2/tcl/scripts/ (DIO_Exercise.tcl IO_Exercise.tcl IO_Show.tcl): obsoleted by halconfig
hey swp saw your posts about grex
so it's limited to 1 ms updates?
around there, I think
the interrupt generator on the FPGA can likely go faster, but I'm not sure by how much
ok - 256Hz to 2048 Hz INT rates
hmmm - and it looks like it's either 256, 512, 1024, or 2048 Hz, not truly "variable"
so who's currently on the board of directors now?
same as last week
Chris Radek (Chairman), Ray Henry (Loudmouth), Jon Elson, John Kasunich, and Alex Joni
in no particular order
SWPadnos? you didn't make it?
i voted for yeah.
well, I guess grex is fairly slow
for hsm anyway
the servo rate is, plus there's a 1 or 2 cycle update delay due to the latching mechanism
The TP smoothing is a moving average . Not the best.
the basic design is pretty simple, it's the FPGA code that's hard to develop
but there's FPGA source in the M5I20 EMC driver
why are fpga's so icky?
the G-Rex is also geared toward step generation, not analog control
FPGAs aren't icky, they're just so flexible, it's hard to define what they should
it's the restrictions that get you
(ie, defining them :) )
Tom k is also using a moving average...have to get him away from that
moving average is just a second-order FIR filter
a rectangular convolution. Run a trapezoidal wave through one. nasty.
hmmm, it's not a convolution, because you don't have a second set of coefficients "sliding" over the input waveform
unless you consider the window itself to be a positive step function, then a negative one superimposed
I always considered the term "moving average" as the convolution of the signal with a rectasngular window
that's what tom k is doing anyway
ok - that makes sense
It makes for less than ideal paths anyway
the ideal FPGA basd controller would be something like the Mesa card, but with the I/O protection on the G-Rex, and a bit of analog on the board
there are even FPGAs with analog sections on them now ( O_O )
well an a/d converter would be hella useful
A/D, scaling, plus other stuff, all reconfigurable
32 channel mux
what do you think about the fpga/processor combos? is that just a gimmick or is it really useful?
do you mean the FPGAs that have processor cores in them, or the embedded processor cores that you can include as part of the logic?
the fpga's with cores on the same chip
actaully, I'd say it's pretty useful in either case, but the IP cores are more cost-effective (but not as fast, in general)
think about an IP stack - that's not really a logic function, though it could be done in "hardware)
having the checksums / CRCs accelerated by some FPGA fabric is excellent, but wasting space on e.g. routig tables might not be the best thing
i'm talking about an FPSLIC
that's actaully more expensive than a high-end FPGA
they're cool though
thats one thing about fpga's.. the high end ones sure are pricey :)
yeah - I'd have a har dtime spending $9500 on a single chip
hey running on wood heat again...one stack dried enough to burn
hate giving 500-$1000/mo for natural gas
the shop is all NG though
might get one of those outside wood fired boilers
then I could heat all buildings with one
and have it thermostatically controlled
* fenn hates being cold all the time no matter how much money goes to the gas company
you could even get a chiller, and have combined cooling in the summer
I'm just sick of these high bills
just run the pipes underground
in the summer that is
I can pay it...it's just the principle.
I have unlinitetd wood supplies pretty much
make a passive solar design then when you re-build
less work overall
or, you could put up a satellite, and beam microwave energy down
that would be direct heating in the winter
just build a maxwell demon
I have to spend a good bit to keep some heat in the shop at all times
or move to Pennsylvania, where the coal mines are burning
If I power it down everything cold soaks
then turn on the heat...all the cast iron sweats
yeah - tell me about it
you should see my garage
lots 0' sweaty iron
unvented gas heater?
they make a lot of water
no heater (other than the portable Kerosene one), Vermont
it it werent for the coolant and metal chips, I could sell bottled water
today was supposed to be snowy, but so far none
it was damn cold over here last night
-15 or so (C)
mountain tops are getting some snow...cold too
[16:57:25] <les_w> http://ils.unc.edu/parkproject/webcam/webcam.html
anyone have any experience with the Centent stepper drivers?
sorry not that brand...
they claim a 'Anti-Resonance' feature, there's some used ones on ebay I've bid on.
[17:03:41] <bill2or3> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7585877453
is a set of 5 Appli3ed Motion drivers at $130 too, I may bid if they dont get too high.
here's the Centent's: http://www.centent.com/cn0142.htm
looks like a gecko to me
just a different package
yeah, I did read something that said they were the same.
maybe an older version, I guess.
aren't they atually more expensive than the Geckos?
"Look on e-bay for some drives by the name of OMC or CENTENT.
They are Older Gecko drives sold under another name. I know a guy who has several sets of them."
probablly if they're new, but I'm bidding on used ones.
SWPadnos: 5 for 130$ seems reasonable
anyone know the difference between the gecko G201 and G202?
that is cheap, but the drives in that acution aren't the centent ones
the filter cap is built into the G202, plus I think you can't kill it by shorting motor leads, disconnecting the motor, etc.
the centent's are in another auction.
ahh, so no additional features that'll affect operation once it's set up.
yep - the G202 has some of the features of the "vampire" drive tha Mariss has designed (an FPGA based drive)
yup, the G202 is the one with protection on shorts
yes, if a stepper coil shorts, you'll lose a G201, a G202 will shut down
there is a smarter G201 (G210 I think), which has a multiplier
I almost ordered some the other night, until I realized maybe my judgment wasn't the best at 2:30am.
yep - the G210 is a G201 + step multiplier, the G212 is the G202+step multiplier (G901)
SWPadnos: any idea what's different between G901 and G902?
I KNOW what they are used for..
it's some detail about which drives they get plugged into
but I'm wondering if a G902 might fit into a G201
I have the G902 in a G340 (DC)
well - the website says that the G901 is for the stepper drives, and the G902 is for the servo drives
yup, I know that
* alex_joni decides to ask mariss
it's just some detail about the polarity of the inputs or something - I think the question was answered on the Gecko list in the past year or so
it was? couldn't find it
hmmm - one sec
here it is:
Simple. The G901 / G902 runs on 5VDC. The logic in the G201 works on
+12VDC while the logic in the G320 is +5VDC.
To accomodate both, the G901 carries a 78L05 +5VDC regulator.
For the G201 step motor drives, it's used to bring the +12VDC down to
+5VDC for what's required for it to operate.
For G320s, whose logic runs at +5VDC anyway, this regulator is
twisted out and thrown away.
got un url?
Otherwise there is no difference.
the thread title is "g902 manual", from 12/2/2004
nope - I just searched local messages
you could search the archive for both G901 and G902
that's dec.02 ? or 12.Feb ?
heh Dec 2
thanks, found it http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/geckodrive/message/3802
just a detail about the internals of the units - 12V or 5V supply coltage
guess I need a 7805 ;)
or some really good internal heatsinks :)
not sure if the chips won't barf
if there are TTL chips in there, running them at 12V might be problematic ;)
btw, you had a different name back then :)
From: Stephen Wille Padnos <spadnos@...>
too many padnos's
not so different
Wille != Willie
Willie is wrong - I never spell it that way ;)
but no matter how many times I type it, it still gets misspelled about 90% of the time
(by others transcribing)
I get mail for Stephen Willlie Padnos even :)
(or Sleplen Pedros, or Stephen Pegmos, or ... )
fenn: a few Padnos'es over here: http://www.geocities.com/hewlettalumni/wherenz.html
one of these days, I'll fix the AUTHORS file, to make the W into Wille (since it's not a middle name)
so it's Wille or Willie?
ok, Wille I guess..
there's a Psdnos Stell company in Michigan, and there's even a Padnos college (or a building at a college)
I always thought you says Willie
steel, not stell
Padnos Steel - there we go :)
here we go - the Padnos school of Engineering: http://www.gvsu.edu/engineering/
[17:30:51] <SWPadnos> http://gvsu.edu/pcec/
[17:30:58] <alex_joni> http://www.js.spokane.wa.us/kimerav4n2/padnos.htm
agh everywhere i look there's FIRST robotics
that's my stepsister :)
half-sister - whatever
lot cuter than you
you're not related :P
* fenn cackles
but not in person :)
* alex_joni laughs
if that counts
I guess she got the "weirdo artistic" genes ;)
how about you?
he just got the weirdo genes
I got the weirdo analytic / scientific genes
I'm the mad scientist type of my generation
so how about Wille
where does that come from? you said it's not a middle name
that's my wife's maiden name. we both took both names when we got married
yep. lots of people have never heard of anyone doing that
how'd you decide who's name goes first?
dunno - I guess it just ended up that way
she changed her name first, and it's normal to use maiden_name married_name
so I did the same thing, so we'd have the same last names
google likes you pretty much
Results 21 - 30 of about 937 for stephen wille padnos
heh - I look like a gcc / linux kernel expert according to google ;)
but google likes me better ;)
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,100,000 for alex joni
damn my evil twin has gotten the upper hand.. how many ben lipkowitz's could there be really?
472.9, +- 471
i should go to spain to visit my alter ego
I have to cut a bunch of slabs of walnut....got talked into giving a wood finishing class at the high school for a local woodworker club
" basics of french polishing"
* alex_joni will be back in a while
see you later
something sounds vaguely dirty about "french polishing"
it's a good sort of dirty though :)
was just trowing wood on the fire
A lot of hobby woodworkers seem to have trouble doing nice finishes
* anonimasu yawns
* A-L-P-H-A puts a fly in anonimasu's mouth
03alex_joni * 10emc2/tcl/scripts/ (Set_Coordinates.tcl emchelp.tcl): updated licensing info
anyone have any useful resources for doing a bdi on a machine that won't boo from cd?
orpheus: if you want my advice: install a stock debian
you might be able to use a grub / syslinux boot disk
debian has installers from floppy
I haven't had any luck with that lately, though
install debian till it suit you, then follow the wiki
apt-get install emc, and you're done :P
how about the kernel tho? anyon have .deb's of a rt kernel?
(trying to install from a SCSI CDROM on a mcachine that doesn't quite have BIOS support for CD boot)
yup, they are available
wiki.linuxcnc.org has the exact steps
SW: laptop w/ no cd drive
you need to add a repository, then apt-get install emc
and it'll pull the kernel & rtai too
orpheus: older laptop?
i'm a debian user already, so cool
if you have debian already you are almost set :)
net install tjen - that should be interesting
no need, if he already has deb
sorry for typing so slow... broken hand
300 MHz is a little slow for running a milling machine, unless you have external hardware for step generation / servo interface
biking, hit a car
hope you broke the car
yeah well, neither of us stopped like we shoul have
i put my right pedal throug his door
we called it even
SW: is it really gonna be too slow? i have no clue what i'm doing here, just looking to convert a mill, and figured a live install would be informative
300 MHz is a bit slow
I do run emc2 on a 300 MHz box, but it's not very nice
* fenn was hoping to convert a pentium 100mhz
it depends on what you want to do, and how you expect to do it (but you knew that already :) )
I forward X on another machine
and run the X server over there..
maybe i should port keystick over to emc2 since nobody else seems to want it
fenn, there's a bookk called "How to Write Your Own 32-Bit Operating System" - maye you could use that for a P100 :)
it's not the UI that kills you, it's the RT latency / atatinable interrupt rate
* fenn scratches his head..
(though the UI doesn't help much)
on a P100, I'd use some DOS program, like TurboCNC
or extra hardware to take care of the "real work"
i would be controlling servos.. how bad could the latency be?
25-100 uS, maybe more
just... mill slower
luckily, some things are fairly constant, like the amount of time it takes to do an outb instruction
I get 2k servo update on a P200...
you have an STG card, right?
right...and that's the limiting factor...isa
so higher cpu would not help unless I get another card
SWPadnos: what were you talking about 32bit OS?
right - the near-constant-time inb/outb does that to you
Linux may not cut it on that CPU ;)
i've already got linux on it
are there any interfaces that would probably work with a 300mhz?
it'll work, but you'll need hardware to do the motor driver control
03alex_joni * 10emc2/scripts/emc.in: export the EMC2_BIN_DIR
fenn: just teasing
I really need to get a motenc and sell the stg or stick it on something else
i really just want to see if all this stuff about laptops is true.. dont have any other laptops with parallel ports
orpheus, pico systems Universal Stepper controller, Mesa Electronics M5I20, a PCI Vigilant or Motenc card
would be a lot easier to mount a laptop than a crt + keyboard + mouse
2k is fine for a bridgeport
fenn: there are parport cards for laptops these days
but then, you're limited to the USC with a laptop, since it's the only one that isn't an internal card
alex_joni: this laptop doesn't like most pcmcia cards
thanks yall, it's cool that there are people in this channel, i think i'll come back when i have 2 hands to type with...
I was talking about modern laptops
orpheus: this is where you are wrong
orpheus: we are not people
actually, you could get a PCMCIA analog/digital I/O card, and write a driver for it (like the ones from Measurement Computing or national Instruments)
speak for yourself alex.. i take the intentional stance
orpheus: but you are welcomed anytime
turing test, baby :)
SWPadnos: just using the PPMC drivers seems a lot easier
yes it does
it's also probably cheaper
i meant the driver software
ad it has stepper / encoder interfaces, rather than just I/O bits
but yeah buying one would be easier than building one.. but i wanna build one
how do you mean?
you won't be building a USC any time soon, I suspect
like icee's board.. it uses the same protocol
(not to put a demper on your enthusiasm)
it wont be implemented the same way, but i'll have basically the same thing
you mean it uses a parallel port - not the same protocol
nowhere near the performance
well - you can only get 2 or 2.5 MHz from the USC ;)
well it uses EPP and probably a similar protocol
no - I'd bet that the actual data will be a worlf different
if it's not, come over here so I can hit someone with a hammer
the USC / UPM is meant to operate in a system that may have multiple cards
that was my original idea
so Jon split the256-byte EPP address space into 16 slots of 16 bytes
the USC and UPM each use two slots, or 32 bytes
there's no real need to limit yourself to that.
you can make counters that are 32-bit, for example
what do they need 32 bytes for?
(rather than 24)
it's 4 axis + 24 I/O
24 bit is way plenty anyway
3 bytes for I/O, a couple for control, 4x3 bytes for encoder counters, 4x2 for step rates ...
no it isn't
24 bit is 1677 inches at .0001 resolution
I have 40,000 steps per inch
or am i missing something?
you have more than 400 inches of travel?
surely handling the overflow in the PC-side software is not terribly difficult
well - you're right. it may take less time to do that than another inb ;)
in fact, you only need to have an external counter that is at least 2 * maximum travel per polling interval
I just had some trouble with the operation of the device itself, the register set may be OK
The X protocol is an example of one where the wire-width of a counter is 16 bits, but the true width is 32 bits, though in the X protocol, the serial number only increases which makes it a bit easier
writing the drivers for it was interesting, due to some oddities I can't remember
so each card drives 4 axes? i was thinking 1 card per axis
yes, each is 4
you probably don't want the control overhead that you'll get with multiple cards
just the guy I needed :)
quick.. hide <(
(ie, an address select for every axis)
alex_joni: It's nice to be needed.
yeah, but not for this stuff :/
SWP dont i need an address anyway for EPP to work?
for stuff like homing
jepler: can we move to emc-devel ?
yes, but you can use a single address cycle, then have the location auto-increment for successive reads/writes
if you had to select the address for each byte, it would make the transfer take roughly 4x as long
there will be a communications microcontroller that will know the protocol
it acts sorta like a network switch
that's good, but it doesn't help the addressing thing on the PC end
so how would you do it with one board?
one board for multiple axes?
well, i dont really understand how you would get rid of the overhead
the ppmc driver uses an auto-increment addressing mode
does it reset the base address each servo cycle?
we keep track of the address range that needs to be read or written, and the
ok so same idea
you don't know what other hardware may be on the port, or what drivers are using it
but you do it once, then do successive reads or writes
with multiple cards, I think you have to do the address select for each card, to activate that card
i would just step through all the cards each servo cycle
on the microcontroller end of things
like "here's the data" in one big block
yes, and if you have say 8 bytes per card (next power of 2 after 2 control, 2 encoder, 2 step rate), then you'll be doing at least 3 addressing outb for 6 or 8 inb
the micro chops it up and delivers it to the right card
roughly 33-50% overhead
hmmm - that'll be interesting
you'll have an interesting initial bootstrap process
the first thing you send is basically a configuration file
how does the PC know what's there?
you tell it
when loading the driver?
i hadn't thought that far ahead yet
keep thinking ;)
probably insmod parameters
or however hal modules get loaded in the future
the ppmc driver actually finds anything attached to the parallel port (ports, actually), and exprts pins for all found functions
that sounds like a lot of work for little gain
you could have 24 of these cards on one machine
it is pretty cool though
no - what happens if you make an encoder-only card?
or a PWM card?
or a step generator ...
does it only do the encoder-read function that thread?
there's a single read function and a single write function for all cards
(ie, 2 functions, regardless of what's connected)
sorry - I almost always think in terms of deliverable product, rather than something for me to use (or one-off stuff)
what do you think of using the i2c bus to talk between cards?
so I think about what all the dumb users will do later, and it makes things a lot more complicated
well its probably better that way
i would be cursing my crappy implementation
I don't like it for off-card comms
it's not meant to be a long distance bus, it's meant for inter-chip communication (Inter Integrated Circuit = IIC = I2C)
like on the same PCB
well all the cards would be in the same box
it could work, but I wouldn't design a system that way -just my personal preference
it's limited to 400kbits/sec, right?
(or have they extended the spec?)
it's built in for avr's
i could use SPI or pseudo-rs232 also
still have a lot to learn
SPI is OK, and can run at 20 MHz or so, I believe
but I still don't like it for off-board comms.
you need to think about static protection and the like when you go through a connector
and what happens if the user plugs/unplugs with power applied, etc.
those questions go away when things are on the same board
hmmm "dont do that"
but what happens when they do? ;)
designing for operator error is tough
static is a killer even powered down
arent pretty much all new chips supposed to be more or less static-proof?
due to CE regs
low signal quality, longer distances, etc can all screw up this kind of bus
though the PIC and AVR are both programmed using an SPI bus
how it seems to you this ? :P
you may want to overlap the frames more to reduce edge distortion (especially necessary with wide shots)
hey SWPadnos , i'm learning something :P
I see the right side seam (though it's pretty good) - it's in the second large building on the waterfront
the giveaway is the angle change, plus a slightly different exposure
(unless I'm wrong :) )
look at how was the first try http://digilander.libero.it/jackydgl0/panoramica.jpg
you needa RoundShot :)
or a Noblex
should be nice
hm, machine one
03alex_joni * 10emc2/tcl/bin/halconfig.tcl: made some changes to allow halconfig to be run from tkemc, and for installed systems. hope I didn't break anything
I think I may have finally had an unsuccessful install of emc/emc2 ;)
the splash screen goes away on emc2 and the computer either locks up or reboots ;)
is that a good thing?
first time. I am really happy on how easy it has been.
increase the BASE_PERIOD in the ini file
could it be that easy. Will check. This is a 1.5ghz pentium.
the BASE_PERIOD being too fast is what usually causes lockups, so it's an easy check
could be my video as I just pick the generic gforce when it was installing
but that machine should be fine with the 50 uS default
right - I have had that happen before
the menu is pretty cool. first time I have used it
there may be a recently introduced problem with emc2, since there seem to be a few people having trouble with BASE_PERIOD lately
03alex_joni * 10emc2/tcl/tkemc.tcl: added halconfig to the scriptsmenu
heh - that's a nice thing
and halconfig will be excellent when it's done as well
it's almost done
nice work from ray
yep - looking at it now :)
yah - I had just downloaded the latest as of saturday and had issues with the period
Don't know if it is me yet or not
skunkworks: tried an older one and it worked ok?
hmmm - need to make a tree click only add watches if the clicked node is a leaf
alex: - not yet.
can you force quit a program in linux?
say something hangs?
kill -9 <process_id>
you can 'ps aux' for a list of processes
or maybe killall -9 'process name'
;) Ok - I will just hit the reset.
that's not as good an idea
something else - set the period to .0001 and still locking
what config are you using?
hmmm - does the run script kill halconfig instances?
don't think so.. but it should
I agree ;)
halconfig should run without emc, only with hal
it's Bad to exit from emc with halconfig running
ok.. I'll do it now
because the run script kills off the halcmd that halcmd keeps open
that halconfig keeps open, that is
it's killable, but stops responding
to GUI stuff
hard to kill halconfig..
it runs as wish
killing all wish is not nice
sim does the same thing - mouse locks up and I have no keyboard input
I must have hosed something
yes, you need to find the line using grep, and awk/sed for the pid
or my hardware isn't set up correctly
ok - a stepper_inch (checked out maybe an hour ago) works fine on my celeron 500
skunkworks: you might want to try rtai examples
I suppose I should detach the USC before sending any steps though ;)
yah - the only thing I am not sure about was the video - it defaulted to vesa even though it was a gforce card. I changed it to gforce (I bet that was my mistake)
what distro are you running?
try all six tests in the rtai testsuite
there have been rumors of nvidia cards not playing nice with RT
not sure testsuite is in there..
that's what I'm running
check /usr/realtime something
SWPadnos: the closed-source driver from nvidia certainly doesn't work right with realtime
SWPadnos: any rtai testsuite in there?
not seeing it - looking around a bt
there is a calibration program, but not the latency-test and other files I'm expecting
rtai-config, rtai-info, rtai-load, calibrate, calibration-helper, run
those are the executables
just loaded bdi438 and find that there is not a gcc installed.
uh - can't help you there
where do I get the correct version
but I guarantee that gcc is on the CD
well then with luck I should be able to fix the problem.
I'd be very surprised if gcc weren't installed
dave-e: apt-cdrom add
apt-get install gcc make ...
most of it should be in the wiki
maybe under 4.30
but 4.38 should install those by default
what kind of install did you chose?
non-custom...ie regular install
no devel option as least not that I saw
ah - I think there's an option to install development tools (which I always check)
or "extra tools" or something
hmmmm.... guess I missed that or certainly would have checked it.
be back in awhile
see you after the intalls ;)
actually - I've got to run as well. be back later sometime
SWPadnos is now known as SWP_Away
03alex_joni * 10emc2/scripts/emc.in: stop halconfig on shutdown if it was loaded, as leaving it on leads to bad things.
ok guys.. I'm off to bed
well the install was almost painless but: I seem to be missing the /etc/include or where ever the default is... gcc complianed about stdio.h, etc
oh, hi dave
how ya doin les?
oh, ok. I am setting up some stuff. I was talked into giving some wood finishing lessons for a local wooodworker group
still confused...absolutely none of the standard .h files on system
still have not done anything with my log....4 foot x 16 foot red oak
oh well...it ain't gonna walk away
might float tho
we have to drag it out to saw it
but our wood miser can only do 36" diameter
would be a shame to make it firewood
1/4 it with a chain saw ;)
with a rip chain perhaps...
pretty fancy firewood
but I am seeing if someone else can saw it
oh it's good...130 years old. The outer stuff is firsts and seconds...clear wood
nice if you could find a large bandsaw mill.
2500 board feet on the stump
we could probably do 4 ft - would take a few turns
I think I showed you - have to ask what he has sawed - http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSC02968.JPG
Well anyway the turkey calls are a little disappointing this year
my customer has some financial problems I guess
but not like last year
I am looking at alternatives to keep the cnc spindle turning
I think we will do a run of a few hundred of something
some furniture item
trying to decide
I need to research it
it need to be cnc
and it needs to use the power of the new spindle system
same deal as turkey calls...
one day of cnc...
supports a weeks of my guys sanding , finishing, and shipping
the other 4 days I do engineering...
blue screen o'death
Anyway, contemplating direct competition with Ikea/ Badcock chinese junk furniture
conventional wisdom says no way, right?
les_w - do you sell table top routers?
sorry - something that would handle a 4x8 sheet?
thats not exactly tabletop
thanks alex, swp... with no more than the usual stumbling over my feet I now have a functioning gcc.
websys we are considering maketing routers yes
we have some technical problems to overcome though
any idea when you might be ready to market?
03cradek * 10emc2/debian/emc2.files: I didn't mean to commit this