03rayhenry * 10emc2/tcl/bin/halconfig.tcl: fixed signal node bug
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03rayhenry * 10emc2/tcl/bin/halconfig.tcl: added a watch hal mode
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[Global Notice] Hi all. We have two main rotation servers to restart this weekend, and this is probably a good moment to give it a try. Total affected users: about 4200. We should be good to go in just a few minutes. This is the last batch for a while. Thanks for your understanding, and thank you for using freenode! Have a great morning.
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bonjour mes amis
je suis en Geneve :)
so ... anything interesting happen?
not that i am aware of :(
Les got his spindle installed yet?
les got a spindle?
colombo 5 or 10 hp I tink
with no ATC, silly boy
theres a nice on on eBay right now ...
[09:10:07] <robin> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Colombo-High-Speed-Router-Motor-CNC-Plastic-Metal-Wood_W0QQitemZ7579679215QQcategoryZ42938QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
here's some interesting reading: http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html
guess no meep today :)
i see two meepis
I've installed on a old machine K6II-350MHz@256MB-Ram
I don't have any idea to set parallel IO pins
Where can I find the IO assignment ?
you will probably want to install emc2
afaik the only pins you can change in emc1 are limit switch inputs
the pinout for emc1 is here, about halfway down: http://linuxcnc.org/handbook/part2/rhemcini.html
the documentation is probably easier to read though
[12:46:58] <fenn> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/emc/emc-docs-1.0.0.pdf.tgz?download
I printed an old HandBook version !!!!!
30th August 2k2
it probably hasnt changed much
my pinout are hardwired to the DB25 connector
in emc2 there's an 'electronic breadboard" layer that lets you swap pins and debounce switches etc
does emc2 change pins?
is there a docs to install emc2 instead of emc1?
[13:14:12] <fenn> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl/emcinfo.pl?BDI-4_38_Compile_EMC2
thanks, I try to make it
cvs -d:pserver:email@example.com:/cvsroot/emc login
it doesnt work
* fenn mutters bad things about sourceforge
seems to hang at the passwd
I think it is swedish chef
mm i test to download the nightly build tarball
it's borked.. download this instead: fenn.dyndns.org/pub/emc/emc2.tar.gz
bork bork bork!
officially there hasnt been a release yet, but that's a silly reason not to have proper beta test downloads
checking fo RT dir....
RT not found
where's the problem?
apt-get install realtime-126.96.36.199-rtai ?
BDI kernel is RT patched
i havent installed bdi 4.38.. dont know how its put together
god damn juno reactor is so cooool
apt-get install realtime-188.8.131.52-rtai
apt didnt' find the package
try adding http://solaris.cs.utt.ro/~emc/debian/
to the apt sources.list
i'm not too familliar with the syntax
tell me what you did if you get it to work :)
or better yet add it to the wiki page
fenn: the mirror exists in source.list
sarge updates extras
welp.. could you do a "locate rtai_ksched.ko" for me?
wah. alex_joni help meeee...
emclinux:~/emc2# locate rtai_ksched.ko
locate: /var/cache/locate/locatedb: No such file or directory
oops.. updatedb first
you might have to be root
yes i'm root.....
just a moment
checking for RT dir... configure: error: RT not found, try to specify one by --with-rtai=<path>, --with-rtlinux=<path>, --with-rtlinuxpro=<path>
which Path do I set
try /lib/modules/184.108.40.206-rtai/ and add an rtai if that doesnt work
checking for RT dir... checking specified rtai=/lib/modules/220.127.116.11-rtai/... configure: error: RTAIDIR=/lib/modules/18.104.22.168-rtai/ specified, but neither rtai-config \(RTAI-3.x\) nor realtime-config \(rtai-24.1.x\) found. Check your RTAI install
a strange problem I see...
i think i told you to use the wrong path
on my system here's what it looks like:
there's a folder /usr/realtime/ with this stuff in it: bin calibration include lib modules share testsuite
./configure shows me various options
for whatever reason paul moved all that crap around on the bdi so it's scattered everywhere
--with-rtai=<path>, --with-rtlinux=<path>, --with-rtlinuxpro=<path>
you have rtai, the others are for different rt operating systems
i don't have any "realtime" folder in /usr
try locate rtai-config
it doesnt exists
I'm trying to search with apt-cache if I missing one package ....
i will install "rtai" : apt-get install rtai
er, that worked?!
rtai has to be compiled with the same compiler as the kernel was.. i doubt .deb's know about this dependency requirement
it really ought to be in one package
TorbaX: just came in
seems like it's BDI 4.38
hot off the presses
from the kernel & rtai
did you follow the wiki's steps?
[14:26:11] <alex_joni> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl/emcinfo.pl?BDI-4_38_Compile_EMC2
i pointed him there but it doesnt seem quite right
alex_joni: yes but the cvs login is on standby
I wrote there: `apt-get install realtime-22.214.171.124-rtai` should do the trick
forget the cvs login, that's after that
the package doesn't exist
apt-cache search realtime
and look for packages containing rtai in the name
apt-cache search realtime | grep rtai
the mirror is correct
there are many packages
hang on a second
try 'apt-get install rtai-dev-126.96.36.199-rtai'
up 70MB space.....
does it work?
cpp-2.95 gcc-2.95 linux-headers-188.8.131.52-rtai
the package that apt-get install now
d'oh! no gcc woulda been a bitch :)
Now rtai-config exists
fenn: paul made gcc depend on the rtai-dev package
so it's sure the exact version is there
a first step now goes
it did find the RT dir
checking for cc version... found gcc-2.95 in rtai-config
checking for gcc-2.95... gcc-2.95
checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
there's a problem with compiler...
I don't understand where is it
in wiki page http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl/emcinfo.pl?BDI-4_38_Compile_EMC2
when I check this
I see that src folder doesn't exist
but the configure files are in the top emc2 folder
TorbaX: you probably have an older checkout
a very old one..
ok.. seems the tar.gz you downloaded is busted :(
alex_joni: no problem:)
alex_joni: where newer package I find?
trying to build a new one now
but CVS should be safer
alex_joni: I downloaded the http://solaris.cs.utt.ro/~emc/
yes, I've just seen that one is broken :(
and I think it's a copy of CVS......
sorry about that
[15:09:49] <TorbaX> http://solaris.cs.utt.ro/~emc/emc2-20060114.tar.gz
[15:09:59] <alex_joni> http://proxy.robcon.lcl/~emc/emc2-20060114.tar.gz
download it again, I fixed it..
but I am worried about that gcc stuff you reported
I might not be able to help you on that one :(
src folder exist
oops was that my emc2.tar.gz that was busted?
fenn: src folder doesn't exists
fenn: give me you URL
I want to check yours too
mine was surely busted :(
i forgot to move the .tgz to the download directory, but it shouldnt have been busted before either
fenn.dyndns.org/pub/emc/emc2.tar.gz <- old one
fenn: your tar.gz is only half size of the alex's tarred version
fenn: yours is busted too
alex_joni: the problem is only:
checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
let me commit the changes for the Makefile
see config.log for detail
TorbaX: afraid I can't help you on that one :(
make tgz isn't grabbing all the other stuff, just the src dir
03alex_joni * 10emc2/src/Makefile: updated make tgz for proper dirs, seems the old version was from before the Makefile moved to src/
that was quick :)
probably I find the solutin
[15:19:18] <TorbaX> http://184.108.40.206/search?q=cache:iierZQEg4qwJ:pomocnik.com/users/dan/+checking+for+C+compiler+default+output+file+name...+configure:+error:+C+compiler+cannot+create+executables
simply install glibc-devel
now i try this
ok that works here too alex
TorbaX: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), cpp-2.95 (>= 1:2.95.4), cpp-2.95 (<< 1:2.95.5), binutils (>= 220.127.116.11.1-1)
apt-get install libc-dev should do the trick
did you do any custom bdi install?
no, I did basic bdi Install
TorbaX: strange, I did one too, and got all the packages already on it
apt-get install libc6-dev
it will install: linux-kernel-headers
recommended: gcc c-compiler
TorbaX: does it work?
[15:31:35] <jepler> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=9459527&forum_id
hi jeff ;)
you caught me
you have become ensnared in the sticky mess that is IRC
the config process.... yes
alex_joni: mmm in checking list I srr that more packages aren't installed
exactly now configure stopped.
it didn't find:
and a arnign for GTK that are not installed into BDI
GTK is only needed for halmeter and halscope
so you can compile without
but gcc and g++ you just installed previously
along with rtai-dev
had a motherboardfault yesterday :(
but the good part is
my backup pc is much too lame to do the install within qemu. so i add nativ install to the howto while installing :) so its qemu, chrooted, native.
sorry alex_joni, which version of C ompiler do you have?
you need 2.97
for the kernel & rtai stuff
apt-get shows me other versions
apt-get install gcc-2.97
or something like that
I think 2.95... because the libc-dev require 2.95 ....
hi, can i make the settings for emc2 in the stepper_mm.ini or has it changed since emc1?
TorbaX: sorry, 2.95 is OK
I remembered it wrong
if you have 2.95, then keep it
PhantomX: yes, but you should copy it to a new file so it doesn't get overwritten
PhantomX: what do you want to change?
fenn: thats exactly the problem
it gets overwritten
PhantomX: what are you changing?
each time when i start and then close emc2
PhantomX: what are you changing?
change it when emc is NOT running
input is ok, but output gets resetted every time
id like to add some tools for gcode conversion and creation. is there some linklist online ?
cncuser: please add them to the wiki?
fenn: is tehre a wiki ?
i have changed the stepper_mm.ini
fenn: ok, ill comunication ;) i ment i want to add tools to the puppy. where can i find a list. ok, in the wiki, thanks ;)
ah sorry i had that backwards
no, there's no good list of linux gcode tools
mainly because there are so few linux gcode tools
PhantomX: output is not used in emc2 afaik
fenn: you understood right. i wrote it down the wrong way ;)
and in emc1 output should be 1 afaik..
there's hp2xx, cradek has some stuff, ... (tries to think of more)
so if output is not used, why is it resetted then?
because on shutdown emc is writing internal values to the ini
i thought input and output should be equal
and the internal value for output is 1 or so..
cncuser: cp1 in the linuxcnc dropbox
fenn: well i know of cradeks tool for truetypefont engraving which woks nice. then there is the hp2xxx thingy that converts allmos all vectorformats into allmost all
output doesn't mean anything in emc2
so it shouldn't matter what number is there..
afaik there is no value in the default ini
hmm, is it okay if i add a wikipage CncTools ?
how bout something more specific like CAM
fenn: hmm, well, there also will be simple format a to b converters for feeding into cam
Cam could be a subsection
CncTools might also be interpreted to mean the thing you put in the spindle of your machine...
alex_joni:ok, thanks so far
fenn: i look at it that way: i have some pics (bitmap and vector) and some cad drawings. and like to get all into a format emc eats and feeds into my cnc.
yeah that process is generally referred to as CAM
hence all the programs out there that end in "cam"
well, im new in this business, i think cam is the process of routing th way of the spindle
so thats the last part
that's what you're doing when you "convert it into a format emc eats"
fenn: yes, but if i have a bitmap i first have to convert it into a vecotrgraphic and the feed that into a camprocessor..whatever, ok, i call it cam
cncuser: if the brightness in the image corresponds to the depth to cut, then you may want a tool like http://timeguy.com/cradek/image-to-gcode
jepler: nice. i once installed atool with a webfrontend that did this
i think its still online :)
jepler: any good way to do tool compensation in image-to-gcode? for 3d milling it's terrible
i forgot to remove it, if someone wants to try: http://box.hinternet.at/spce/
i shut it down in a hour, for security :)
suppose you would have to calculate surface normals and offset the position by the radius of a ball nose
but that's a whole nother ball game
fenn: yeah, obviously image-to-gcode doesn't do anything like that. But you could write a program that takes an image and does the compensation, then use that as input to image-to-gcode.
a physicengine cnc simulaor would be nice :)
so one could adjust the speed before the tool breaks via simulation :)
fenn: In another, unreleased piece of software, the method used is to sum a 2D array representing the shape of the tool with the pixels from the image at the X,Y position to be milled, and take the max() of the resulting matrix to be the commanded Z position.
checking for library containing Tcl_Init... no
configure: error: tcl lib not found
TorbaX: seems you are missing a lot of packages
I did do "apt-get install tcllib"
tcllib is something else
try the install procedure for bdi-4.30
I think you want tcl-dev (and probably tk-dev)
TorbaX: ` sudo apt-get install cvs g++ gcc gcc-2.95 ncurses-dev pciutils-dev tk8.4-dev libgtk2.0-dev `
you probably need the last 4
jepler: how do you prevent gouging the part? say there is a blob starting on line 50, but on line 49 you're plowing through the stock you'd need at line 50
oh i think i get it.. you check a different pixel for each entry in the tool shape matrix
fenn: right. If your tool is 50x50 image pixels in diameter, then for each commanded move you compute a 50x50 matrix of (tool shape[i,j] + image pixel[x+i-25,y+j-25]), and find the max of the matrix
i, j = 0 .. 49
the max is the commanded "Z"
because if you went any lower, somewhere the tool will cut away something you wanted to keep
you can pretty easily generate a "this is what we got left" from that data too
and generate a difference map from that with GIMP or some such to give you a map of where you need to cut with the finish tool
so you aren't going over all the blank spots
you have to add code to skip greyscale 255 values
or whatever un-cut ends up being
anybody have advice for cutting out plexiglass? I have a project where I drill small holes into plexiglass with CNC, but I also want to cut out the plexiglass to size. So far I've had terrible luck, with the plexi usually melting onto the tool. Non-CNC suggestions are OK, I just need to get a rectangular shape with a nice clean edge that will polish up well.
(the project is http://emergent.unpy.net/stippler)
jepler: what tool are you using?
heh just in time Jymmm
jepler: id do that with a hmm, lets look what stichsaege is spelled :)
Jymmm: I think the last attempts were with a 1/16" end mill
jepler: increase feedrate, increase rake and clearance angle, decrease spindle speed
acrylic is a PITA however you slice it
jepler: Do you have a single flute endmill?
Jymmm: I think it was two-flute
a triple chip tooth sawblade on a table saw is supposed to work, provided you feed fast enough
dunno how polished that will be
jepler: I contacted onsrund, they have tools specifically for plastics; Try a single flute, if you have it or I can give you the p/n for theirs.
jepler: They call it an O-Flute
Let me get the link
Jymmm: if you have the p/n that's great. I'm sure I don't have one.
can I buy onsrund online in small quantity?
jepler : http://www.plasticsmag.com/routing.asp?fIssue=May/Jun-03&aid=3784
jepler : http://www.plasticsmag.com/routing.asp?fIssue=Mar/Apr-03&aid=3751
fenn: I've found that polishing on a belt sander can give the polished edge I need for light transmission
jepler you want to flame polsih acrylic
[16:21:36] <fenn> http://yarchive.net/metal/plexiglass.html
these are great links, thanks guys.
jepler won't hurt to temper acrylic either
jeppler: nice, where are the leds placed ? around the picture ?
jepler what type of acrylic?
Jymmm: "the stuff at the hardware store"
Jymmm: "in the remainder bin"
jepler: Okey......... paper or plastic film on it?
cncuser: Yes. There is a special surface-mount LED that shines down (towards the PCB). So I created some single-sided PCBs with holes for the LED to shine through, and on the reverse side cut a channel the width of the plexiglass. So they basically snap onto the edge of the plexi, and are hidden behind the matte.
Jymmm: it comes with a blue plastic film on it
jepler: That's cast acrylic. what thickness?
err sorry... blue plastic film is Extruded acrylic.
Jymmm: around .09"
jepler max thickness you might use ever in your life for this project?
wait, you said for a frame?
if for a frame, I wouldn't use that thin.... thermal expansion and bowing
Jymmm: I don't know what the ideal thickness is. Probably I'd like thinner, but this was available.
jepler about what dimaeters (max) will the final piece be?
8x10 4x6 5x7
jepler leave at least 1/8" for it to flex
Jymmm: the plexi actually goes behind a matte, so I size it to be a bit bigger than the matte.
the first step i sok now
so far I've been using 3.5x5 (?) mattes
jepler: Ok.... Extruded acrylic (to Onsrund) is a "Soft Plastic"
./configure exit with success
without any error
jepler metric or english?
3.5x5 inch mattes
alex_joni: what choice do I do ?
2) make KDIR=/usr/src/linux-headers-18.104.22.168-rtai/
jepler: my collegue just mentioned that if you replace the leds with lacer or bundle the ledlight more, you are ble to do make animated images using differnet depths of holes :)
in the messages that configure shows seems to suggest me "make"
heh DIY cheesy neon signs
eat at J O E's
jepler : Single Edge - Solid Carbide Upcut Spiral O Flute; 1/16" 63-750, 1/8" 63-760 (both are 1/4" shanks)
you can order from there
a simple "make" catch an error
i try the 2nd solution
it seems to be ok
jepler: They are strange in the fact they have two different cutters depending on hard or soft plastics. When they say soft, they mena when it's being machined it's characteristics of melting back upon itself.
jepler I gave you the p/n for soft plastics (extruded acrylic), if you want hard plastics (cast acrylics) let me know.
cncuser: actually there is a very old kind of numeric readout called "side-lit display", which has 10 digits (and maybe a decimal point) inside, each engraved with dots on a piece of glass or hard plastic, lit by incandescent bulbs.
cncuser: to light a digit you just turn on the corresponding bulb
jepler: Soft Plastics: Extruded Acrylis, HDPE, HIPS, UHMW, ABS, Poly Carb, PE, Poly styrene, acetal, and PET.
jepler: cool :) got a name o a link ?
cncuser: No, I don't really know any good pages about this old technology.
jymmm it looks like they divide them by the surface energy of the material
cncuser: I think this page is a modern clock based on the same technology: http://www.nixieclocks.de/english/01fd1195c106d4517.html
ABS is on the borderline
Jymmm: for now I'll be sticking with this same kind of plastic
fenn basically what I was told is the group is based upon meltback characteristics
cncuser: I don't understand how he does it with only 4 LEDs
Jymmm: the author of nixieclocks.de, in the link I gave just a moment ago
jepler: the scopeclock is fascinating
jepler almost looks like layers
cncuser: cradek has a scope clock too. http://timeguy.com/cradek/clocks
jepler: woow, the sidelitthingy is really misterious. no word bout mirrors or lenses
* alex_joni goes home
I think he has multiple payers going on
The classic sidelit display I saw has one layer and one lamp for each digit
have you emailed him?
nope; I only found the page this morning
jepler Oh, Bosch also has a single O-Flute bit too, if you can find it that is
woow, nice those clocks
well, i have only rtcs :)
not even a wristwatch
but maybe i turn my oscillar 1 into a scopeclock one day ;)
cncuser: too many cool projects, too little time
is the linenumber in g-code absolutely necessary for emc?
hm i get the message "unknow g-code used"
what's the line?
i gues this: G90
thats the whole beginning: %
[17:14:29] <cradek> http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/personnel/kramer/pubs/RS274NGC_3.web/RS274NGC_3TOC.html
there is no g71 command
do you know what it's supposed to do?
ok, thats just what i got from the bocnc programm
g91 is relative positions
g71 i don't know
g71 is "mm mode" in rs274-d
change it to g21
ok, i will try it thx
please add any tools you use for cam and that are helpfull here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Cam
that was ist
you actually use sagCAD?
fenn: no, i just copied that from a german wiki and replaced the descriptions with simple english ones
fenn: if you know more about it just add the info to the wiki page
there was no english translation until recently and my 2d cad niche was already filled with qcad so i never tried sagcad
fenn: ic, sorry, cant tell you anything about it.
had a nice discussion about GPL with stallman :P
anyone remember the command to register a nick on irc ?
i was talking to sharon about peace in israel the other day..
was /msg nickserv register ?
/msg nickserv register <password>
/msg nickserv register ?
Lucio65: howdy doody
;-) mny tnx i don't remember the cmd
jacky was asking how to register
but it seems you are from italy also
yes im from sardynia
make of emc2 on a K6-II@350MHz ....it's a long long wait.....
where are you from?
and you ?
in cussu logu
de aundi ?
World is not enough small......
help! we are being overrun by sardinians!
i know jacky has a part in this
not at all
first time I meet TorbaX :)
so, what did richard stallman say about the gpl?
TorbaX: nice to meet you ;)
fenn: im looking for a license to use for a wiki, roboitalia community
GFDL would be nice
but not all peoples agree ..
Jacky^: nice to meet you too
stallman sayd there's some recent changes to look
hi fenn ...over ?? only two ...i think
* Jacky^ is reading it ..
well i'm glad someone is pumping a lot of brainpower into this issue
wonder if anyone is considering making a "license check" program to verify that all the licenses are compatible
fenn: the guys of my community are thinking to mix a lots of license ..
Im very confused now about it
Im only sure about GFDL
you are sure it is a good idea or not?
i havent read it
im reading it right now ..
I know GPL as general license
but not much details about others
someone would use Creative Commons, but it leave many important questions unanswered
this is a tough problem which may have no solution
that's why i gave up on it when deciding on a license for my wiki :)
it turned out that it didnt matter in the end, because nobody (hardly) contributed
heheh The Tentacles of Evil test
I had the same experience is fenn
well, in fact, I never even thought about the license
hi Jacky^. what's new?
almost ready for dinner here , thats the good thing :)
I just sat down to lunch, but brought along my laptop for compan
your laptop can't keep you company
unless you have some clever AI software you arent sharing
no, but you guys can
I have to read the document about Draft Debian Position Statement about the GNU Free
it's quite long isn't it
i'm enjoying reading the dfsg
er, the dfsg-faq i mean
hehe for a gprs connection Lucio65 has resist enough :P
rofl.. linux reference center... sponsored by microsoft
[20:02:41] <fenn> http://www.devx.com/assets/vendshow/12833.gif
and all of the stories are somthing like "company X saves millions of dollars by choosing windos over linux"
* TorbaX long long long.....
* TorbaX .......long long long .....
it's very difficult to rebuild emc or emc2 on a old machine.....
rayh: looking for License to use for a wiki, any suggestion ?
How far do you live from Florence?
I was reading at http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml
Florence ?.. uhm
2 hours from Rome
about 3.5 hours
rayh: need something from there ?
Ah. My daughter plans a trip there next year.
pick us all up in the global express rayh
If you need anything let me know ! ;P
we've friends there
already seen k4ts photo in our frappr group ?
she was there
Florence is the city of love :)
The debian reaction to gpld seems like a nitpick.
I'm having a lot of difficult to choose the right License for a robotics community
What would you like readers or users of your wiki not to be able to do with it?
I proposed GFDL as standard, but many peoples disagree with my choiche
someone want to protect his 'individual projects'
Jacky^ I'd suggest you read http://creativecommons.org/
someone write hex code for microcontroller and other
Jymmm: someone want to use CC
rayh: the issue for me is the mix of this license
wiki is wilde ..
cant find the right way
that will help you select a license
I did quite a bit of looking at these a few years ago.
I didn't find what debian calls the GNU Free Documentation License to be al all troublesome.
Id like a license GPL compatible
but seems hard
Wiki text is really a difficult thing.
* Jacky^ is confused
IMO public domain might the the most suitable.
links are an issue too
for text stuff.
hey a wiki license --> http://creativecommons.org/license/results-one?license_code=by-sa&wiki=true&lang=en-us
There is a rather large disagreement right now between the guys who started wikipedia.
yeah.. I was in #gnu they was right talking about wiki and license
right now Im the only one looking for a Totally Free License
80% of roboitalia community (who will use the wiki) are for Creative Commons License
Its seems theres no solution
the neighbors 2 dogs just busted into the house as i let my 2 in... an extra boxer and doberman in my house IS too much
dmessier: cool, but dangerous ..
I prefers the cats :)
Ive 2 cats right now
the first is my engineer consulent
there are still 2 cats in the building
all fully clawed and dangerous
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the other is wild ! damn it
and.. aybe there's some other kat around ..
my 17 yr old siemese had to be put down between xmass and new yr.... was the GREATEST.. cat.. he flew a kite... he water ski'd
he was my puppy-cat
and my wifes kitty cat
i feel like dr doolittle these days.... ive had sled dogs... ferrets...
we had bunnies last spring
birds come and go
madagascar hissing cockroaches?
and come back
just set out the cardboard, they'll find it
no but a frieck friend has some if you need them... LOL
"someone" uses them to fight certain snakes
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i really dont understand why the fsf wants to add burdensome restrictions like cover pages to the gfdl
nobody ended up "stealing" gpl'd software did they?
* Jacky^ hitting the head on the wall
I just hope to find a solution before the end of next week :/
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whats up ?
all right ?
gfdl with no invariant sections doesnt seem too bad
but if 80% want to use CC why not just use CC?
its' a miracle
compile process completed
TorbaX: sounds good
how many hours was that?
but now ....
fenn: thanks ;)
* Jacky^ writing a reply on the forum ..
TorbaX: what now? :D
where I find the bin to start emc2?
Jacky^: tell the guy who wants "control over his own projects" to get his own webpage ;)
my choice is stepper_mm
TorbaX: I suggest reading documentation next
alex_joni: I found a standard_pinout.hal
and finally I set the correct parallel port pins
TorbaX: seems you're on the right track
follow that track :)
alex_joni: I have a question
in hal file
TorbaX: don't let me stop you
where do I set the inverse logic to pin?
ok, a bit of basics
but you get this from reading HAL_Introduction.pdf
(some pins have a polarity value in the .ini too)
fenn: not for emc2, not yet
TorbaX: each HAL output pin has a parameter associated with it
for example: parport.0.pin-12-out has a parameter caled parport.0.pin-12-out-invert
if you set it to 1, it will be inverted
it seems to be simple
setp parport.0.pin-12-out-invert 1
should do the trick, but I am writing from memory, you might want to read the HAL_Introduction.pdf for specifics;)
I've just done a copy of "stepper" folder to save a safe copy...
TorbaX: the stepper folder should never change except by cvs
TorbaX: copy to a new folder if you want to customize for your machine
TorbaX: there is a program calledemc2/tcl/bin/setupconfig.tcl which helps you doing that
run it before running emc2, and you can select creating a new config
it will ask you to chose a template (in your case the stepper_mm or stepper_inch, and a name for the new config), after that it willcopyallthe files you might need to a separate directory
Jacky^: you were right.. it was stallman after all, sorry i doubted you
only axis Z works
X and Y seems to be stopped
but the counter in the windows shows movement
probably I turn off the motors, and turn on after
I missed the pin3 of parallel port
it enables the X motor
(but it enables all motors....)
and the endswitch_z are inverted....
tomorrow (ehm....italy is Today now)
I go to bed
TorbaX: it maybe depend on drivers youre using
G night :)
thaks alex_joni fenn Jacky^ ad all
Jacky^: I miss few IO pin to set property
it happen ..
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