finally a good new http://www.microsoftkid.com/
this guy has maded his first website at 3 years old
gates sayd I want to know him, weve mani common things
i want to ask to that guy if he really has never steal to Xerox/HP/Apple
[00:22:34] <jepler> http://axis.unpy.net/index.cgi/downloads/01136852163
jepler: nice :)
oops, there's a serious problem with 1.1.1rc1.
I made a change without testing it
and I always make mistakes
"this is clearly right, I just copied it from another file" (and left out some critical punctuation)
you no need to make test user exist for this :P
If you find a bug youre before the users youre really good
If you find a bug before the users then youre really good *
OK, now it's 1.1.1rc2 ..
maybe it's even usable
Jacky^ is now known as Jacky^afk
so where do I find the latest BDI?
last time I tried I got something not the latest
djb_rh: try http://dsplabs.cs.utt.ro/~juve/emc/
- there's a link for BDI 4.38
it's not going well for petev
testing some new irc clients
think this one (virc) is ok
now I don't have to have the linux box up to monitor irc
have you not tried chatzilla (part of mozilla, or an add-on for firefox)?
no, I'm still using explorer
chatzilla is pretty good
I had mirc and the gaim plugin
and it's the same on windows or Linux (as far as possible)
but for some reason the freenode server wont allow them
odd - were you trying to connect to irc.freenode.net or chat.freenode.net
it gave some error message about the version of client
they disabled irc.freenode net due to some spambots, so you should use chat.freenode net instead
the gaim plugin would be my first choice as I have it running most of the time for other stuff
hmm, I'm on irc.freenode.net now
they had some messages about it a few weeks ago, maybe their new filtering is good enough that they can have it on
ie, re-enable irc.freenode.net
do u run cygwin on your doze box?
I just upgraded to the latest and fixed a bunch of bugs to get some cross compiler stuff going
however, my DISPLAY variable isn't set now
I never used to set it in .bashrc
did you upgrade cygwin-X?
but I can't find anyplace in the cygwin stuff that it should go/ or was
yes, complete re-install
had plenty of problems
none of the postinstall stuff worked well and there were clear bugs
ok. I know on my machine that Cygwin (bash) and Cygwin (X) were different installs
hmm, I use the cygwin setup.exe
it's kinda like apt-get
do you get the X icon in your systray?
you select packages for install/remove, etc.
yes - I've used it
yes, the server is running fine
I can get a window to if I manually set DISPLAY then run xhost +
I note that there's no DISPLAY variable set if I run a "normal" cygwin terminal, even with X running
DISPLAY is set in the xterm though
and I can't manually run an xterm from the standard shell (no DISPLAY)
I guess I can just stick it in .bashrc and be done with it
do you get an xterm when you run X?
which I promptly close
and DISPLAY isn't set there?
I'm going to take it out of the startup file
ok - you should run another terminal from there if you want DISPLAY to be set
yeah, but the xterm is launched on my local machine
I usually launch one on the linux box
that's the whole reason for using X
sure, but you need an ssh session that has "access" to cygwin-X
so just run that from the xterm
I make an icon on my desk that does something like
ssh 192.168.100.133 xterm -display 192.168.100.134
then the ssh just launches an xterm and I'm good to go
right, assuming that the local Cygwin apps know anything about X ;)
no, all that needs to be running is the cygwin X server
the xterm command is run on the linux box via ssh
I don't really use any of the local X apps
ah - right
you'd need xhost +192.168.0.133 anyway
yeah, I'm lazy, I put xhost + in the X startup
that does make it easier
at one point I had reserved IP addrs for all my machines
but one by one they got upgraded and I couldn't be bothered to put the new MAC addrs in the DHCP
so now I don't always get the same IP
oh yeah, I almost forgot (not sure if I mentioned it already)
Embedded systems conference is in San Jose this year
April 3-8 or some such
Jacky^afk is now known as Jacky^
good morning folks
fenn_ is now known as fenn
go to bed fenn ;)
what time is it over there?
i'm an honorary member of australia
this arvo i'm hacking an ai
this whole joining strings in python is bunk
welcome to the glorious planet of australia
huh.. thought you were in the US..
i am in the us
* alex_joni is lost completely..
i might as well be in australia since i wake up at 11pm indiana time
maybe for some us cititzens australia=austria=somewhere behind kentucky ;)
heh didn't mean to imply that austria was australia
i'm talking to a bunch of australians on another channel
fenn: i know ;) its just something ive stepped over some times when beeing asked where im from ;) no no kangaroos in austria ;)
just woke up, my funnyengine isnt fully started
damit, messed ub unionfs again :( lucky me its just a qemu session
i keep on putting unionfs in a state where its not usable at all...the only thing i can do then is reboot :(
well.. reboot :P
alex_joni: allready done ;) lucky me its just a qemu session. but when it happens on the hostmachine i dont have any clou how to fix it. theres some messed up mounts that cant be unmounted... at least i havent figured out how
btw. i just finished the develhowto (redid all steps and fixed the bugs) also i made up a bbunch of stupid bashscripts for brainless reproduction :)
im begging for a account on one of cooltools servers to put it online :)
alex_joni: do you want to host that too ?
lets see how well abiword converts its native format into html :)
uhh, looks crappy :(
cncuser: I can host it..
alex_joni: cool, i put togther a tarball..mom
dcc it over when finished
hmm, that would not be possible i think... ive a rather locked down firewall and am to lazy to change the ruleset ;)
i put it online on my server
ok, good too
[12:42:21] <cncuser> http://cooltool.he.fdread.org/cncforum/mastering/mastering.html
if anyone is bored and has ~gb free diskspace. should take 2 hours on a descent pc :)
want me to mirror that?
alex_joni: would be cool
ok, hand on..
I think this would be best on the wiki
alex_joni: yes i think too. i tried once, but had no write access
ok, let me do that..
you da man :))
may I mention your name? :P
shure, cncuser ;)
alex_joni: id prefer cncuser :) for i get the creeps if i google for my names and emailadresses and get hunderds of hits representing my interests during the last 6 years.
alex_joni: i worked for a marketingcompany once. i know datamining :(
im thinking if i should start doing the livecdsmasteringstuff right away or if i should make a break
alex_joni: yes, to make the install (described in the howto) into packages and filesystemimages. compress them. remove unneeded stuf... to put it into a ~50mb iso and run it with 128mb ram :)
thats the goal
i think im 80% there
removing the python stuff will be the hardest.
i plan another 6 hours on python
the rest is peanuts :)
building a puppy iso is easy as easy can be
if all works out as expected, it should be a selfrunner, some bugfixes, with a wickihowto thats no problem :) a guy at cooltool is catching up on linux and emc and is going to make future usersupport via forum and email.
btw, to add stuff to wiki.linuxcnc.org read http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl/emcinfo.pl?BasicSteps
ok, be back in 30minutes
* alex_joni too ;)
just installed a 4.38
something is wrong here.. can't send Alt+foo over ssh
I think so..
it's started by xfce
yes, it's xterm
try setting this X resource
and restart xterm
think it's xfterm4, from looking at the icon link (but xterm appears in ps aux)
how do I set that?
put it in a file ~/.Xresources
xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
then arrange for that to happen when you start X
(I know nothing about xfce, klogin, etc)
yay, it works now :)
thanks a lot
still looking how to get a list of installed packages ;)
I think there's a list in the bdi4 wiki
aptitude works ok..
no I selected a minimal subset of those
did you see paul's message about building emc2 on bdi4.38?
* alex_joni goes away for a while..
alex_joni: bye, i changed the txt version <PRE> and </PRE>
hmm where is that magical preferences link where one could login into the wiki ?
ah got it
how do i login ?
whats the trick with login in ?
ok, ill ask alex
you need the magic password
i know the magic password
i dont see any way to login
i registered a user
UserName Cncuser saved.
Administrator password changed.
User has editor abilities.
Server time: January 10, 2006 8:57 am
Local time: January 10, 2006 8:57 am
should be on any wiki page
i use lynx
ok, now re-navigate to the page you want to change
a i use firefox, but i try lynx
for i dont trust firefox
hmmm - can you use windowed, scrollable text edit boxes with lynx?
damn, internal server errors
you have to re-load the page (if lynx caches), because the edit link won't be there in the cached version
sf is fucking up
had to close firefox
all instances ;)
ok, cvs errors
some mirrored cvs would be nice, for checkouts
sf is fucking up 70% the time i try to access their cvs
anonymous or logged in?
maybe you should register on sf - the developer cvs access uses different servers, and the updates are faster
(ie, changes are immediate, not delayed like with anonymous access)
2 days ago for example there was a cant write to /tmp/.... error coming from the server :)
yeah, thats what the goal is obviously, get rid of anonymous users :(
heh - I don't think so, but could be :)
It has been getting worse for me also over the last month
have to try 10 times before it connects
or so ;)
skunkworks: yes the same her :)
well, developer access has been fine ... :)
that's one reason I insist on running my own CVS for AXIS
(of course, I don't allow any anonymous users..)
(but it's great for me, very reliable)
jepler: want to mirror emc ? :)
hmm, maybe theres a way to get a virtualhost for such thing
If I am set up as a user on source forge - could I log in as that user?
I think you would have to be registered as an emc developer
4. Error type: 500
5. Request method: GET
6. Request query string: action=edit&id
hit refresh a dozen times
i did :(
try another dozen
but now even that doesnt help anymore
seems the server allready is on his knees ;)
yeah it's probably all those people hitting refresh a dozen times
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heh now... I like Hormel Spam (tm), dont be dissin it by micing in McDonalds
(yes, I saw the wallops)
isnt spam the things muncht up that are not allowed to be put in dogfood ?
i dont trust beeflikestuff in a can :)
It's Spice Ham
SPiced hAM == Spam
Shredded Pigs And More
and as long as the seal isn't broken, it's shelflife is forever
i get meat at the lokal slaufghtery
or at the meat market
Jymmm: things that last forever cant have any good stuff in it ;)
well, enough meal facism
cncuser Most things, no. Spam being the exception.
jymm: haha, whatever ;)
fresh food is good. rhyms == good, pumuckl
Is it a 18oz steak with grilled onions and mushrooms, no. But for what it is, it's good stuff!
well junkfood != bad tasting food ;)
I wouldn't consider spam as junk food, more along the lines of a can of refried beans or spaghetti sauce. Just processed is all.
cu lator, im off for a beer
have one for me too
spam spam spam spam spam - ham bacon and spam - eggs bacon and spam spam.
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) and a real FOSS milestone
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you there ?
replyng to some forum post
I'm off to try to get the 4.38 online ;)
have a fun :P
ok.. seems it's working ;)
as you can see :P
* alex_joni likes xfce
ok.. I'm gone ;)
too much work :P
I was using evilwm, now im playng with Ion3 on the laptop, im entusiast
very intelligent positioning windows wm
I just had some difficult using Gimp, as you know open a lot of windows, layers, etc
where Ion use to take all free space on monitor
lokking at LILO suggest .. it seem Gnash plugin for firefox has been released ..
It is the most advanced free flash player that currently exists, and an important addition to the GNU project
anyone want a cool flash site ? http://www.mksite.com/
writing a letter to a friend :P
all ok here
I dont really get why we should use a flash player clone
when the guys that writes the dev software provides one..
which "guys that writes the dev software"?
I just got this msg: FSF announced
the addition of Gnash, a flash player and firefox
plugin ( http://tinyurl.com/a6mev
).... it's one of
the FSF's priority projects (
macromedia has no 64-bit Linux flash player
they have 64-bit mac and Windows, and 32-bit Linux
is it impossible to run the 32 bit player on a 64 bit linux?
at least on my machine (it could be partly nvidia's fault)
actually, that's not quite correct
you can install 32-bit firefox, and then use the 32-bit player, if you're careful
but that prevents you from using any 64-bit plugins (and of course, 64-bit firefox)
you also end up with other issues, such as 32/64-bit library conflicts
and you can't have both 32-bit and 64-bit firefox installed at the same time, I think
hm that seems strange
yes, and also a good reason for a "free" player
Linux64 has been around for a couple of years now, and there's no support. Win64 isn't quite here yet, and there's already support
I'd rather see a effort to make a good free toolkit for writing event driven programs
SWP_Away: I run a 64-bit linux. It's just great. Nearly all Free software builds in 64-bit mode, and there's not much non-Free software I care about
SWP_Away: I think it's a waste of time..
I end up caring about flash only because half the web now seems to be flash-only (and even some of the info I want ;) )
jepler, how about emc on 64-bit? any experience?
ok - that's one of the things on my "long list" - 64 bit / smp testing of emc
I won't be trying it, because my 64-bit machine is a server
maybe next time I replace my laptop...
jepler what os on the 64bit box?
Jymmm: fedora core 4
jepler does it take advantage of the extras?
you have the adm dual core?
it only has 1mb l2 cache =(
seen les ?
Jymmm: which extras? It is a 64-bit OS
it's not a dual-core processor, but I think it would work just fine if it was
dual core, actualyl usign 64bit all the time etc
I think that openoffice is the only major app not compiled as 64-bits
that really sucks.
jepler: is there a 64-bit vim?
64-bit nano :)
/usr/bin/vim: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.0, stripped
I bet I use vim 1000 times for every time I use ooffice
I use ooffice as little as possible
and just rebuilding with a 64-bit processor is not going to make it, ummm, fast and sleek
latex is 64-bit
I think gcc is the only app I ever, ever sit waiting for
Why even bother with a battery at all? http://www.m-techlaptops.com/specifications/mtechd900k.htm
haha 1hr when brand new
seen my message to the dev list about RTLinux?
wonder if I'm correct..
you're probably right
oh.. it was the user list..
I wonder how his system got messed up
valgrind, tightvnc, adobeviewer (non-Free), openoffice are the only 32-bit applications, but many 32-bit libs are included as dependencies
I haven't heard of that problem before
right, same here, don't think he did build another kernel
but I liked the way he stripped the stuff he included
I'm sure you could tell for sure by looking at that include file
kept only the necessary
yes that was a superb problem report
seems like he knows what he's doing
too bad I forgot to mention that ;)
I started to think about it, then I got all kinds of questions, but the answers where right there :)
from line 150 of my rtlinux-3.2 file:
extern struct rtl_sched_cpu_struct rtl_sched [NR_CPUS];
the struct is different but I bet $1 your analysis is right
well.. google is my best tool ;)
and the plugin to filter results I'm using ..
battery + LED.... is a 2n2222 good to use as a "switch" with a photoresistor?
or will in drain the battery alot ?
the 2n2222 probably will drain lots less then the led
the 2n2222 is good enough
alex_joni: got a sec?
um I'm back..
lil warning next time