is anyone having trouble with cvs from sourceforge?
can't create temporary directory /tmp/cvs-serv30154
I just did a cvs up a few minutes ago and it worked
No space left on device
I dont understand that error
sounds like not enough space on (your local) disk
nope.. got tons /tmp is empty
unless cvs is trying to use somting else
localhost:~# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
it looks like its trying to create /tmp/cvs-serv30154, I can't imagine it using anything else
/dev/hda2 72G 1.1G 67G 2% /
all I have i /
did I install the right cvs?
I didn apt-get install cvs
what distro are you running? a BDI?
brand new install?
and you you are trying to get the latest EMC from CVS?
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:firstname.lastname@example.org:/cvsroot/emc co emc2
I was thinking perhaps sourceforge was out of space
I have tried over an over and got a little further each time
till the out of space error
are there any other cvsup servers for this??
you did the "cvs -d:pserver:email@example.com:/cvsroot/emc login" line first?
just checking ;-)
would you mind trying and see if you get the same error??
thats what I'm doing
heh, thank you
my normal checkout is a developer one, but I'll try an anon
I take it you have to be a developer with a password to do that....
hmm, I got the same error
well its not me then... at least I can stop beating a dead horse..
lemme check the site status page at SF, it could be a problem they already know about
dang... I do not like the new layout at SF - can't find anything
no mirrors I guess
this is my second install, should have kept the first
I was able to do an anon checkout of another project, but not this one... strange
I'll file a support request with SF to get it fixed
how urgently do you want to start working with emc2? Alex Joni has daily tarballs somewhere, I just need to figure out where they are
well I am setting up the machine for a friend who will be taking it home in a while
if its not to much trouble to ftp them somwhere I would apreciate it
well, IF I can find them it will be no trouble at all
thanks ftp://chupa.mauibuilt.com/incoming/ is my server if you do, thanks for your help
thats not what I meant...
I mean that I would give you a URL, and you would have to fetch the tarball
(it is already online, I just don't recall where)
[01:46:57] <jmkasunich> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl/emcinfo.pl?Sample_HAL_And_ClassicLadder
read section 3
cool, on its way, thank you
you're welcome - and thanks for letting me know about the problem with anon checkouts, I'll report it to SF
checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
great, same error as I got before
did you do all the steps on this page: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl/emcinfo.pl?BDI-4_Compile_EMC2
I'm running BDI-4.27, not 4.30, so I can't test anything here (I certainly have no problems compiling)
I know others have compiled emc2 on BDI-4.30 with no problems
you are using 4.30, not the very new 4.38, right?
that is a really freaky error - what good is a compiler that can't make executables?
yea odd for sure
I'd be tempted to try a "hello_world.c" kind of program and see if that works
apt-get install cvs g++ gcc gcc-2.95 ncurses-dev pciutils-dev tk8.4-dev libgtk2.0-dev
trying that first
if you didn't do that before, that would explain it
ok, I somehow installed another BDI that didnt reqire it before dono how..
configure: error: version.h not found - Is the kernel headers package installed
do I need to untar the kernel source???
yep, read a few more lines down the wiki page
oh cool thanks
don't overlook the note about 22.214.171.124-magma instead of 2.6.10-adeos
how hard is it to make a new kernel, the BDI install I tried before this had magma headers and source
building a kernel is what borke that install
screwed up the real time
I don't do kernels, so I don't know how hard it is
I use the kernel that came with the BDI for exactly that reason
cool got it working and gtg,,... thanks again for your help
fam just walked in gotta run.
who was that masked man?
fenn I aint Luke your goober!
Well, got a new phone system today, not bad
only been search for me with these features for 10+ years
there have been a lot of new people around today; I wonder if emc was mentioned somewhere popular
sherline website dec 25
ah cnczone has a active post going
lol.... a JHWATTS. I wonder if any relation?!
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morning all.. if anyone around
I'll be back tonight
alex_joni: still there ?
whats up ?
starting another day of work ? :)
oh nothing just a saturday morning
wash cars if it gets warm enough
we're going out for walking .. 15:15 pm here
i must wash the mine too .. :/
I just take it one time at week here
Right now -2c....can't wash with ice!
too much traffic around, I prefer to move with metro or bus ..
ouch -2 ? about 8-10 here hehe
in chicago I would sometimes wash cars with clean snow
worked very well
the snow would abrade off dirt...but would not damage paint
even thought of an invention that sprays snow on the car
never made it
but it would work
I am also studying sme plans to redo the kitvhen
your kitvhen looked nice in the pictures
latest time I used the car was in 31 dic ..
I will redo the kitchen in cherry and stainless steel
I have to use the car or truck every day
still studying for new car
theres a big park where K4ts live here, with big tree, if you leave the parking you will never finf it again :(
its public not private
but I mustwash the car, after some day after the tree become very dirty
make coded led flasher to find it
because there are a lot of 'colombi' around
piccioni .. :/
thousand of birds they stay on the trees
I must wash the car every day :(
as you saw it is a forest here
get paint ruined too ..
I hand wash cars a lot...because I like cars
yeah, at least you have a lot of space around
im hate here, i like metropolitan center but ..
around the house here it is about 300x 800 meters
after some week I become nervous
a lot of work though
also where I live in south Italy is nice, a lot od space around my house
I know ..
there is space here because it is far away from cities
nice, I like those places
That is why I have to have a tractor to cleap things clean
actually I have 3 tractors
small ones for mowing grass
big for other work
yes very very calm
too calm haha
cool I like it :D
remember I am from the city
well, better get cleaning
have a nice walk
where I live down, are about 18k peoples
k4ts dont like it
here are 8 millions :/
she lives in a house with 4 rooms
Ive 13 rooms and 2 bathrooms in my house
going to walk ..
you know, XM sat radio basically sounds like cr@p....
sounds like an mp3 lossy compression
life sucked out of the music.
AHA! now I see why.
[15:37:02] <les_w> http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-4434.html
64 kbs! yuck!
I just got it thrown in with sat tv. Don't pay money for this!
huh. and people pay for that?
hi alex. Hi jef
oops.. meant jeff
oh.. you did ;)
darn colours, can't see the nicks
dunno why my nick turns out to be white on white background :(
yeah, so I was messing with XM in the music room since it was added free to my sat tv service.
and yours is bright yellow.. can't really read it :P
could not make it sound right.
03alex_joni * 10emc2/src/emc/ (14 files in 5 dirs):
first chunk of code to enable M62,M63: set/reset MOTION DIO and M64,M65:
set/reset AUX DIO. the message passing has been restored, the messages end up in
the motion controller. For now only a debug message gets printed. A few details
to be discussed before moving on.
now I know why huh
raw cd is about 700 kbs
losseless compressed perhaps 500 avg
I think 192 sounds ok still
but anything below is crap :P
and that is 44khz 16 bit
maybe 256 if you can ;)
funny all this 24/96 and XM "new digital technology" is 64k
good enough for the majority
saves a lot ;)
We did some tests burning 256k mp3 from cd and comparing directly
the 256 sounded very bad compared to the original
ok.. now it's better (Konsole had strange colours)
I can see again .G
but you have to compare ab for it to really stand out
Oh well. I used to design audio gear for a living. I may be a bit critical.
most people stop at 10kHz sounds ;)
although they should hear up to 15
256k bps stops at about 10
when I was 18 I could hear to 27
I think I tried back in college.. I stopped at around 16k
might have been the speaker
Time for somw on topic stuff. I'll go back to mopping the floor.
Sometimes I almost wish I was married again...but not quite.
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les_w Hey Les!
Was just thinking about ya!
I was cleaning house.
* Jymmm imagines les_w is a miad uniform.... *shutters*
And bitchin earlier about cummy XM sat radio (64kbs)
les_w Did you ever watch "Everyday Italian" on the Food Channel?
I piped it in the music room...it was added free to my direct tv
awful awful awful
I don't watch the food channel much
les_w If you hate Italian, if you hate everyday, you gotta watch it at least once.
I love italian food
les_w You'll understand COMPLETELY, once you see the host of the show.
* Jymmm would give his left nut
guess i'll have to check it out
ach my fingers are pruned
Just now, or everyday?
wanted to wash the cars but it's just too cold and windy
ha ha ha
Me? I have zero wrinkes anywhere of course.
les_w I read up on pore fillers, most seem to be a putty/paste of soeme sort. Any liquid ones?
pout n fill so to speak
pour in the pores
for the poor
well pore fillers usually are a paste. The traditional ones are thinned with naptha to a light cream consistency and brushed on. After flashing over and turning dull, they are wiped off with burlap or similar.
across the grain if possible
but none of them cure/dry clear?
the new water based ones are clear yes. The old ones were whitish and usually colored with japan.
So the wood needed a wash coat of sealer first
so the filler would not act as a stain
I washcoat first with the new clear ones as well
there are sprayable fillers too
far too many processes involved for me w/o a shop
well the water ones have few fumes...
all you need is a utility paint brush and some rags
no fire danger or anything
All the stuff is is modified latex wall paint really
Not that as much as no place to store to dry. As it is, I have to wait for a sunny day just to be able to cut up material, and gawd help me if I need to clearcoat
the water filler dries in about 10 minutes
Does it make THAT much of a difference on the finished product?
how fast it dries? heh nah
no the filler itself
oh the old stuff or the new?
new, I guess
both work fine
the new stuff is so fast though
and the new stuff is the water based?
the old filler like behlen pore o pack needed at least 3 days to dry
yeah new is water
but the new stuff does need a clearcoat first, correct?
often the old stuff needed a week
no, it doesn't. I just prefer too to get the very best look
yeah, if your going thru all that hassle.
If your clear coats are water based laquer, it's basically the same thing only thinner. S put em on after.
If I want an oil look I put the oil type finish on first...it would not penetrate after the filler is on
So for oil look....
Watco danish oil...
What I'm doing now is sanding down the raw stock, spray can PU, carve, hand oil stain the carving, then PU the whole thing.
ok. PU won't fill pores of wood like oak and walnut.
and dmanit all to hell if the dried PU doesn't absorb the stain =(
doesn't for me
water or oil base stain?
remember on the signs I use a color coat based on modified latex wall paint
I remove some of the binder...
so it dries chalky and brittle
sands off easily...
then the top coats soak in it and strengthen it
but that's paint, not stain.
what your using that is.
yeah pigment stain...
I rarely use it
that stuff on the link is called varnish stain
Some things 'white' just doens't seemed right.
varnish stain is for no skills homeowners.
I looks like crap.
les_w you remember my parrot sign? I used that varnish stain
It's harware store junk.
you did? Well stop it!
It's already sold and shipped
Well, ok. Then what SHOULD I use when I dont' want white?
hardwoods, open grain.
and you want a darker color?
* Jymmm has been trying different species lately playing around.
medium color naturally
hold on, let get the name of this wood
ok. The best look is obtained by water based dye stains
just so happens it is the cheapest and safest to use too
It is similar to rit yes....mettalic salt dyes
let me get you a link
[19:24:45] <les_w> http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=922-828
that's the filler...now let me find the stain
[19:26:39] <les_w> http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPRES.exe?PARTNUM=844-806
also, for one of the most natural walnut stains...I collect husks from the many walnut trees in the yard....
and boil them in a big pot.
I put a little something in like sodium benzoate as a preservitiave...
and bottle it up.
perfect for darkening sap streaks
these dye stains all leave a perfectly clear wood surface
pigment stains are thin paint and cover the wood.
Sometimes good if the wood is poor quality.
Pigment is also used to simulate old oxidized finish on antique restoration
Dyes color the wood but don't hide it.
also dyes soak in. You can sand lightly without losing the color.
just read back
the salt dyes, do the store well once mixed?
yeah just fine
I just stock red yellow and blue
so any color can be mixed
you just use a scale to mix them?
colors can be very intense
yes scale if you want to repeat the formula
you can get bright red, black, etc
I see red and yellow wlanut dyes, but no blue
the high end turkey calls use these stains
different section of the catalog
that "curly maple camo gree" call of ours...that is with Moser dye stain.
and even though it say "Yellow Wlnut" the walnut part doens't matter?
nah that is just premixed red and green
or red blue and yellow
I just noticed "Mix only what will be immediately used."
yeah....that's so you will buy more.
It can get bacteria growth it's true.
ok, that's what I was thinking
tiny bit of sodium benzoate will fix that.
does that come in powder form?
prob a water based grocery store disinfectant is the easiest to get
just pour some in.
not clorox or other bleach
it's good stuff, safe, very heap. Get some.
or benzoate of soda, chemical compound, C 6 H 5 CO 2 Na, colorless or white crystalline, aromatic compound; the sodium salt of benzoic acid . It is soluble in water and is used as a preservative in foods and beverages; because it is poisonous, the concentration is limited by law to 0.1%.
High quality staining only uses this stuff.
Well, don't drik the damn stuff
where do you get yours from, a chem supply house?
but even food has 0.1%
so it ain't that bad
Yeah, I've seen it on ingrediants lists
yeah chem supply
prob canning supplies have it too
you might have trouble buying things from a chem supply these days.
[19:48:31] <Jymmm> http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/10426/SLS1987
[19:50:35] <les_w> http://www.1-800-shaved-ice.com/c-sod-ben.html
oh, cheap too.
food grade (back to that 0.01% )
Hey...I'm giving you all my secrets you know...other woodworkers don't know about using sodium benzoate.
That'l be $1000.
so if I was mixing up half a PB jar of dye, add maybe a teaspoon of SB ?
put it in my tab =)
ah keep it to 0.1 % if you thik your nephew will think it's kool aid.
otherwise just throw some in
a few percent
You're just turning me inot a drug-store alcamist
remember I have designed coatings.
So, when do we get to invent gunpowder? =)
and solid fuel engines?
Oh I made very good black powder when I was a teen.
and yes rocket engines...but not with black powder.
les_w I already have the NiChrome fo the igniters =)
NSA is monitoring and will be at my door in one hour.
you know what? When I got out of school the NSA offered me a job!
les_w the permit is $75/yr for mfg in sm quantities
yeah? How did they know about you?
I have some black powder right here in the room.
for the guns.
me too, but it's coverd in lead and brass =)
I really should keep the stuff in the barn or something.
have about 2 pounds
keep it underground
that would blow the cr@p out of the house
and grounded =)
with all those lighting storms you have
making a note right now
les_w It's the GREEN wire you insert into the gunpowder, not the BLACK one =)
That Goex is fast. several hundred meter/sec flame front.
not for a fuse!
Wait... isn't Goex usually fuses?
or is that jsut the Brand name
so anyway buy that dye stain
and the filler
use professional stuff...not that hardware store junk
I'll buy the powder dyes for sure, maybe the filler to paly with a bit.
with have shitty tap water here, does it matter much?
we have shitty tap water here, does it matter much?
you can get oil soluble and alcohol soluble too...but you don't need that
shower stall turns a light orange due to the water
nah. you can mix it with pi$$ and it would work fine.
Lets see... we got chem houses, and mixing scales... sounds drug related to me =)
oh and add on a touch of NSA and ATF chat... WOO HOO!
Well half this county is on probation for meth labs.
The hillbillies switched from moonshine to meth.
"hillbilly cocaine " I guess.
wouldn't that be rat poison?
let's see we have mentioned black powder, rocket engines, chemical supply, guns, cocaine, and meth.
What do you think our bail will be?
Oh, sorry. I forgot. We don't have due process and habeus corpus and rights and stuff. Bush did away with em.
Releas on OR =)
that fucker... and got the PAtriot act renewed too. bastard
look out the window. Any big black cars yet?
We have Black Op's, wtf do we need PAtriot Act for.... it's only fucking the Citizens and not the terrorists
* Jymmm check the Spectrum analyzer for for gov freq activity.... clear
Gotta keep tabs on the slaves...
Think I could accept that old offer at NSA?
oh let me lookup the wood I'm using...
They would not even talk about what it was. They jusyt liked that I had good grades and took a lot of math.
So I accepted an offer doing audio research instead.
The NSA KNOWS who they're talking to before they even talk to them =)
They would not say what, when, where.
Had many papers to sign.
I got permission from the Lumber Store here to go in and take photographs of the exotic woods they have... about 50 different ones.
high quality pictures?
Well, they will be when I take them. But of course all raw and unfinished.
many dampen them with water
store might not like that
well give me some later...nice for web site
Hmmm, I'll ask if they would mind that or not....
it wouldn't hurt anything
dry again in a min or two
might leave a water stain, no?
well my fingers are depruned
I get to setup an umbrella too,
like geologists with rocks
50 species, that's a lot of spit.
I would like some photos...ones one the web are usually poor
Why do you think I set all this up =)
SWP_Away is now known as SWPadnos
had to buy a bracket for the umbrella and my flash to fit together
all cordless stuff. I think they might frown upon me running cords all over the store
yeah...flash on camera woud just glare
unless shot at an angle
which would look funny
My camera can shoot TTL wirelessly to the flash
wish mine could
uses IR for the settings
Nikon D70 + SB800
I was taking photos of each sign job but finally stopped
too much work
Eh, a gallon of distilled water is cheap and no minerals in it to stain anything
I shoot everything =)
free for me as air conditioner or dehumidifier condensate...in the summer.
well, anythign so they dont say NO
I splash it on the car after washing. No spots, no towel drying.
I didn't even think about wetting the woods, thanks !
A friend did that with his wood pictures
It makes sense, wet looks a lot closer to a finished piece than dry every will.
[20:29:32] <les_w> http://roehmguitars.midtnn.net/wood.html
Yeah, I'll see if I can brighten em up more than his are
He said I was welcome to his, but they are old and I would like to have higher resolution
those were thumbnail for back in the dialup days
Well, I need to go clean the music room some. Get the dust out of the sectoral horns.
And turn off that damn XM sat radio
64kbps, what a crock.
your sure it's not a setting?
no. not a setting. google it.
what shitty service, good to know.
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* Jacky^ uploading latest photos :P
hi A-L-P-H-A :)
how php is going ? :D
[22:53:12] <Jacky^> http://digilander.libero.it/jackydgl0/pozzuoli/index.html
* Jacky^ updated his website to latest photos :D
so FYI all
[22:59:13] <icee> http://www.lyle.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ServoController
is the new sanyo denki servo controller home pag
wow icee nice AC servos
jmk is great :)
who is Jim L.?
I know LawrenceG too
Lerman is now known as lerman
but not Michael and Jim
btw great job :)
[23:10:03] <Jacky^> http://digilander.libero.it/jackydgl0/pozzuoli/img000.jpeg.html
this is the stadium where Diego Armando Maradona was playng :)
Saw your pictures of pompeii
rayh: we have not been in Capri Island today .. we wake up too late :/
have been here around : http://digilander.libero.it/jackydgl0/pozzuoli/index.html
ah hah missed the boat 'eh?
k4ts: prefer to travel with the car :(
Glad that you had a nice day.
yeah, afternoon ..
I was looking at http://www.lyle.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ServoController
good progress ;P
AC motors are expensive but good !
saome days yet, and I will restart my project, 10 mt/min wood-work machine
using DC motors , I already bought Geckos for that
But I like the AC idea :)
They are nice motors.
I still like DC.
someone here around get AC motors for a very good price
I can understand it more easily then all the induction stuff.
waiting to heard about performances they get
yeah, AC is difficult to drive , for what I know
I like the fact that you get full torque at zero speed with dc
that is much harder with ac. makes for some expensive systems.
You doing anything with emc2 lately?
I switched to Emc2 after alex_joni suggest it to me, about september 05
I just used a 'toy' as machine
but I got nice results
now planning to build a very Fast machine
Great. EMC2 is really coming along
We've sorted out most of the configuration stuff
jmk has a graphical config copier nearly done
Im not updated to latest stuff .. but I heard something about :)
I've got the start of a HAL configuration graphical interface
It makes a lot more sence to me these days.
I was pretty much lost trying to keep up with jmk on the Mazak
rayh: here are the lates Emc2 jobs I done: http://digilander.libero.it/jackydgl0/photos/lab/img010.jpeg.html
not bad at all :D
I repeat, the mine was a toy machine :)
* Jacky^ dreaming the next machine working
Looks like some impressive work for a toy.
I see a gecko and a good sized motor.
its inredible, but really, it was build with surplus peaces
the motor you see its a DC motors, my cousin got from US by his cousin ..
never tried yet :(
I tried to hack get up some homemade encoder but didnt work
ah always something to do
next step I will choose DC motors, according to les_w suggestions
Yes. He knows quite a bit about doing that.