* Jymmm pokes les...
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Red70sShow is now known as Jymmm
I threw a mail on a edm
for about 1200$
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03paul_c * 10emc2-auto/wiki/ (16 files in 10 dirs): Auto update wiki from a cron job. Tue Oct 4 10:42:01 BST 2005
alex_joni: i get stegen type 1 running with an L298
03paul_c * 10CVSROOT/loginfo: Improve on the filtering rule
the prob i've now, dc motor it dont have torque
i tried to change PID parameters from calibration window, but it wont take it
and , in the ini file seem there are no PID valiables to set
where are ?
Jacky^: first make sure the motor actually has more torque
alex_joni: im sure
the motor run ok with the driver if i use IN input with a supply
pseudo-pwm , instead seem just 1 volt or smallest ..
like I said, L298 is not ok for DC motors
03paul_c * 10emc2-auto/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Add note about log mail filtering.
if i connect the input pin of the driver it run ok
with thr right torque
pwm from emc seem not enough ..
you don't have PWM from emc
emc's output is stepping
thats the prob ?
the problem is you have too mcuh spare time
not really ..
03paul_c * 10documents/scratch.txt: Is the dog barking as it should...
anonimasu: are you using servos with emc2 ?
step-dir input ?
there are very few step-dir servos
if you want servo, you go with -10 - 10V analog
and PID tuning
then you need a STG or Motenc
gecko should be one if i remember well
but that's a interm. solution
not that I would say it's not ok
i eard some driver in worrking progress on emc2
I know ..
* alex_joni is/was working on stg
but I haven't done anything the last few weeks
are the only one working on it ?
thats i dont like ..
any peoples here seem have his 'personal' project
its hard so ..
and anyone is working on a different project
well.. the alternative would be to not work at all
a better organizzation
should be much better
how are going your servos ?
* Jacky^ go out to buy cigarettes .. later
* alex_joni is really tired :/
* paul_c is improving the cvsup script
* alex_joni wouldn't have the energy it takes to think right now
\o/ A new toy to play with...
[15:20] <alex_joni> good day
er, yeah, forgot about those :P
need to head to the bank
* alex_joni goes away
Wild hair up my ass.... "IDE cnc controller" or even 'FDD CNC Controller' not like we have a B DRIVE anymore =)
no more jello :
should be fast too
what are you learning?
alex_joni : what are you learning?
not learning anymore :D
* alex_joni gave up
alex_joni : what were you learning?
still learning for IWE (International Welding Engineer)
hands on or written part?
alex_joni: hands on or written part?
how do you mean that?
mostly written (if you mean the exam)
exams to be more accurate
are you learning the textbook or hands-on ?
lots of it ;)
cradek: in xemc, the behavior of "limit override" seems to be the same as in axis. It turns off after the next jog is complete.
but in emc1/simulator I can jog past the (soft?) limits anyway
without ever pressing the override buttons
jepler: that shouldn't be possible :/
unless the softlimit values are off
24 feet instead of 24 inches =)
If I enter 'g0x20' in mdi, I get "linear move -NN out of range", but if I hold cursor right I eventually get to x=20
is your limit exactly 20?
if so, I've seen that behavior
so I set my limit to e.g. 20.001
no, I can go way beyond 20
you're probably not homed
MIN_LIMIT = -10.0
limits aren't in effect until you home
oh yeah, I'm not homed.
I never bother homing in the simulator
this is a strange behaviour
at least on my robots, I cannot do carth. moves without homing
and they are limited to 25% speed till homed
to be sage
once I've homed, then I can't go beyond 10.0 by jogging, even if I use "limit override". but maybe I still don't understand what "limit override" is supposed to do.
I'm getting ready to make a base plate for my router with a grid of holes, any suggestions on some (dowel) pins that have some sort of head on them?
Plus, I still need to come up with some type of cam clamping.
jepler: I think it might not work (but I admit I didn't try tkemc)
jepler: when I tried it, it wanted to turn off by itself whenever I jogged
jepler: afaik "limit override" is used to jog off limits(during homing)
not after that
but as far as I know you can jog only away from the limit, (not to go further off the limit)
so it's particular to limit *switches*
not soft limits
I think so
hardware limits iirc
darn, that's not what I want at all
it was done in order to be able to home with hard limits too
if you don't have a homing switch
but.. again, I might be wrong
well, that would explain it not doing what I want.
cradek what did you want it to do?
a documented bug is a feature, right?
alex_joni Oh, no problem... just a sec...
allow a jog beyond soft limits
cradek ah, ok.
hello rayh, paul_c
cradek: that's easy (jog beyond soft limits)
alex_joni: Did ya pass the test ?
alex_joni: but my home position is very near a soft limit
cradek: buggerit then
alex_joni: so I can only jog one way
add new signals ;)
alex_joni: the easiest thing to do is restart emc, jog, home
alex_joni: (which is stupid)
or unhome ;)
well, there's not a button for unhome on axis
probably no message aswell
* alex_joni talks about NML message
I *think you'll find if you jog in teleop mode, the homed flag is reset
Hi Ray - See you reused that box I mailed over...
Ah you got it, eh.
paul_c: right, but only for non-triv kins
cradek: that might be an easy hack (ugly .. but )
alex_joni: it's not worth it
you just need to open trivkins.c and change the KINEMATICS_IDENTITY with KINEMATICS_BOTH
and you're set
then you'll be able to jog in teleop mode (carth mode, as in XYZ)
or in joint mode (as in axis 012..)
if you jog in joint mode, your homing gets reset
paul_c: I see a bdi-4_27 branch at sf. Is that the proper place to download the sources for the EMC that's part of BDI-4.30?
bdi-4_30 tag, or....
apt-get source emc
For anyone wanting to muck around with printer/plotter stuff (awesome refernce): http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?locBasepartNum=5961-0976&lang=English+%28US%29
it's great for anyone writing even linux drivers
or including hpgl into their application
hohum.. basic framework done... Now on to hotplug & udev events.
kobjects are going to be furrrn....
[18:12:27] <jozofero> http://garfield.com/comics/comics_archives_strip.html?2005-ga050421
alex_joni : I'm lucky enough to have the printed manuals - all 2000 pages =)
Jymmm: but that is a CD-ROM order, not a download ;(
jozofero: You goober.... at the bottom is the downloads... DUH! lol
CD-ROM order page
place an order
jozofero: You can also view these manuals on-line in .PDF format by choosing one of the following links below."
damn eaarth ive under foots
oh, you mean this huge field :D:D:D You can also view these manuals on-line in .PDF format by choosing one of the following links below.
run baby runnn :P
jozofero ROTF yeah... THAT!
For the fun of that... I ain't going to read that even for the fun of that!
Quote from Monkey Island: "Ewww. I mean EWWWWW."
jozofero: I dont keep very many printed books anymore, mostly reference. These are very good.
Well, the first PIC18F010 manual I downloaded was better ;)
* alex_joni goes home
jozofero: So was the very first PLAYBOY you read too.
Jymmm: I didn't ever read a "Playboy" magazine, and BTW, the teenager's magazine "BRAVO" contains much more nudity and sex than any "Playboy"!
jozofero no clue on that mag.
Jacky^ is now known as jack_afk
is a bit that's has a 0.042" good for PCB milling/drilling ?
.042 diameter? That's way too big for just about anything
common IC legs fit in a .030 hole
traces are typically separated by .008-.010
I regularly do 10 mil (.010") traces with 10 mil separation
that lets you pass one trace between IC pads
and under 0805 SMD, but probably not under 0603
ok, so if I got a 0.010" I could get away with most simple PCB stuff?
no SMT stuff.
yes if you can reliably cut .010 separations you can make useful PCBs
ok, maybe I won't buy any more of these 0.042" then. But 20 for $0.50 I couldn't beat it.
what are they?
I guess they could be drills... they have a 1/4" cutter length on a 1/8" shaft
you don't know the shape or material?
.042 in = 1.0668 millimeters
looks like a spiral endmill
anything not carbide will last for about ten seconds
because you're cutting fiberglass
metal is all I know, not very ferrious... doens't grab onto the rare-earth magnets I have
well it grabs, just not very strong
jack_afk is now known as jacky^
jacky^ is now known as Jacky^
cradek: Like I said, for fity-cents, I couldn't pass it up. They work pretty good in my dremel (hand held).
cradek: I meant to ask you about your raster to gcode program if you have a sec
yeah for that price even if you use them to cut wax or wood they're fine
Jymmm: ask away, as long as you're not going to ask me to write the last 20%
cradek: heh, no. How does it know what tool I'll be using to cut with?
is something implied?
are you talking about the program that generates back-and-forth scanlines over a raster image?
assuming it converts greyscale to Z depths
it does only that: generates back-and-forth scanlines over the image
yeah, I think it does that
so how would I setup for 1/8" or 1/4" endmill?
I can't remember, it was for a one-off project
just hack it so the scanlines are as far apart as you want them
ok. bought that spindle!
les Columbo thanks you
* Jacky^ ghghghg
again colombo ?
I just bought a $1700 colombo spindle
cradek Heh, I can barely understand what it's doing, much less hacking it =)
err how it's doing it I mean
in 18 optober i will gon in north italy ..
for a meeting with Olidata
les: whats the problem ?
Jacky^ Yeah, yeah, jsut an excuse to see your girlfriend in person =)
no problem at all
now I must buy the frequency drive
220 8kW 0-400 Hz
les bet ya NC has one =)
Jymmm: it's only one loop! Just twiddle the step value
Jymmm: nah .. closed with anna ..
Jacky^ you kick anna to the curb?
but she has a nice voice....
Jacky^ broken would be 'NO FUCK' actually.
hmph. I left axis running for a few hours and it ate all my memory
I thought we'd fixed those bugs
but she break my balls
during the work ..
cradek: I don't think so
Jacky^ All females of the species will break balls.
not running a program, certainly
Jymmm: mmhh ..
jepler: maybe emc was fidgeting like it does?
les btw, thansk for the info. appreciated.
Jacky^: Well, sorry to hear about your breakup.
the history buffer should eventually be forgotten, I suppose
cradek if I get some more of these bits, you want a couple?
pds colombo wanted 975 for the invertor but I have a quote from another for $550
so I will go with that
Jymmm: no problem
jepler: yeah, it should. It should know when the machine is running low on ram and do the right thing.
i'm going to meet sabrina ..
Jymmm: I appreciate it, but no thanks
cradek ok, np
les: for any prob with colombo just ask
theres a mafia there !
[20:28:08] <Jacky^> http://www.olidata.com/HomePage.asp
axis seems to be growing by around a meg per 15 seconds
something must have broken
what, I wonder?
much worse than a meg per 15 seconds
I am not getting that behavior
I started the simulator and jogged to somewhere a few inches from the origin
I didn't load a file or anything
I'm running 3dchips
it started at 74M and has not increased by line 300 of the program
I added code to print len(self.data) and now it doesn't seem to be growing
in memory usage
and len(self.data) is constant while it's not moving, as expected
I dunno what happened
it's not happening now, even after I took out that change.
(which should have made no difference anyway)
les you around ?
I'm around now!
trying to find the right vfd
les .. hi
my cousin has gone
i was asking about abba slider cost
hi was away again
it's low here
around $100/meter for the smallest rail
as I recal
abba has about the lowest cost of any manufacturer
I am spending too much today
having a little trouble finding a vfd that will run 5 hp spindle on single phase
I was looking at 10 hp drives derated 50% to run the 5 hp motor
* Jacky^ feel goooooood
clearly you need a 10hp spindle
seems only actech makes vfds that run on single phase with no derating
oh well....think I will go to town and get a 6 pack. Then I will feel good like jacky