but those I think are made with an older camera
HP photosmart 315
pretty stupid camera ;)
I made a lot of new photos
mmh, they are nice
nicer ones ;)
no room to upload them :(
about 2 gigs this year (in italy)
i've seen something
also the website is nice
and very fast to load :P
<alex_joni> about 2 gigs this year (in italy)
<jack^^> i've seen something
<jack^^> also the website is nice
<jack^^> with thummnails
<jack^^> and very fast to load :P
<jack^^> good ;)
no time to update it :(
i'd use a script :P
i've some album in yahoo .. but it give no High Resolution ..
well .. a lot of the pics on my site are downsampled
for space reason
another in Robotitalia, it a little bit better, but there are limit about the size..
yours is very fast
it's at the local university
should get 100Mbit
it load the pictures in the browser how i never seen before
from here ..
s /how /as
* jack^^ is thinking to japan ..
the paradox ...
steve jobs ..
when the chips are japanese
<alex_joni> HP photosmart 850
take a note..
HP photosmart 850
should be cheap on ebay
la macchina di alex_joni_
anna_emc: maybe more appropriate congrats
baut its ok :)
anna_emc: thank you ;)
but there are people around here who take better pictures
* alex_joni_ points to jepler
alex_joni_: yours are the better ive never seen .. really
i dont know about jepler
we've seen some in the sea
colours are nice everywhere
very good resolution too
anna_emc: what are you doing ?
cosa fai ?
* jack^^ waiting for reply ..
I'm al pc
I know ..
and .. ?
visto che tu non lo fai con me
anna_emc: i'm very busy ..
i'm hard working.. really
for emc not busy!
youre talking abou busy message in msn messenger
(01:48:08) Anna: se era uno dei tuoi amici su emc che ti salutava avresti risposto subito vedo che non faccio lo stesso effetto ecco perch� poi mi innervosisco anche se uno � occupato la buona educazione che hai con quelli di emc, non � la stessa che usi con me, Notte
anyone have any feedback on the Vigilant boards? (besides paul ;)
he already gave me his feedback on CCED
what time is it there ?
oh, heh 10 pm
here is too late
i seem to have that problem a lot
i think you cant finf paul tomorrow ..
if youre looking for paul_c
well, actually anyone with experience on interface cards
mm, i'm a newbie
i'm not even that yet
what's your prob ?
plenty of linux experience, no emc exp yet
my prob? i haven't started building my problem yet
i'm still choosing hardware
i'm trying to plam my problem ;)
plam = plan
i'm from Italy
my english is not so good ..
no problem there
i'm playng around emc sine june 2005
i actually considered moving there in a couple of years
it depend on what you wnat to do ..
we have a submarine tender there
la maddalana (spelling?)
emc is GREAT
depen on what you need to do ...
i like the fexibilty
this is not NASA
i'm building my machine myself
for what ?
5 axis milling
i'm building anything from myself too
aluminum and steel
well, emc support up to 8 axis
should be a good choice
depend on what ..
if youre an hacker
or you just playng with toys
emc is for hackers
like .. linux is for hackers
it has been a long time since i fooled around with linux
what you use ?
but 10 years ago, you had to get your hands dirty just to get linux installed
what yours experiences ?
i started with slackware
ten years ??
i started with debian
i compiled kernel
i've used debian, redhat, mandrake, many others
you know ?
i still like slackware
i always like a nice clean kernel
slack its a toy ..
if you want a good control on your machine
if you are an hacker
you are in the riht place
if youre a developer
far from it
i like to tinker
emc offer you great features
for what i know
i'm playng with it sine may 2005
i'm actually testing an wirking on emc2
is there anything emc2 will not do that emc will?
you know .. em2 its like a breadboard
you acn assembly and connect components as you like
it seems to be a more simple layout
makes more sense
it depend ..
on what we thinking
from a code point of view, it seems to be laid out better
experience is not fresh water ..
an what you want to get
it depend ..
only the experience can give you the right reply
thats, what i learned
i have much to learn
must sleep now
youre welcome here
i will be around from time to time
what part of italy are you from?
how is sardenia?
sadrinia is an island
im in centre of italy
show what i know
is famous for Pizza around the world ..
maybe i will see for myself in a few years
bed time for me
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jepler: you around?
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another week down the tubes :-/
right.. same here
* alex_joni is trying to study :(
got an exam tomorrow
exam? I thought you escaped from school?
it's for a IWE degree (IWE=International Welding Engineer)
so.. learning about metals :/
metals: hard, heavy, conduct electricity... what else is there to know?
heh.. a LOT fwiw
still need to read about 1-200 pages :(
someday I want to learn to weld (along with about a dozen other things)
that's the easy part ;)
* alex_joni goes back to his books :(
still takes time
jmkasunich: maybe I'll catch you tomorrow to talk about that hal stuff
but I imagine welding is more fun than reading about welding
only a day or two ;)
reading about welding is fun too
reading about materials is not
probably won't be online tomorrow - visiting my parents about 100 miles away
or..let me put it this way.. reading is ok
like knowing QT steel has up to x% C in it
or Ni or Mo, etc
or the fact that if you weld marthensitic steel you need to do some thermal treatments after the weld
cooking it up to 700 degs and then cooling it off at constant temp. speed not exceeding 80 degs / hour
just an example (no idea if accurate ;)
heat affected zone stuff?
yeah.. and molecular structure
it gets too hardened, and can easily break
I had some 316 stainless sailboat parts welded years ago - they rusted in the HAZ, the rest of it was fine
yeah..probably bad wire chosen
you need a lot more Ni in the wire than in the base material
also need to take care of heat input, etc
this was TIG welded - the guy was pretty good
hmmm... should not have rusted then
maybe too little argon on the root
later parts (same metal, same welder) I bead-blasted them and wiped with oil, they lasted years outdoors with no rust
do you have S355 steels?
or do you use other namings?
doesn't seem familiar
is that plain steel, or stainless or something?
355 - limit of flow (not sure that's the correct term)
construction? as in steel beams and such?
yeah.. as in normal carbon steel
steel beams and such are made from something called A-36 here
awful nasty stuff to machine
it's been described as trying to machine a pink pencil eraser
"normal" carbon steels are graded with 4 digit numbers
last 2 digits are % carbon
forinstance, 1018 is generic low-carbon
1045 is decent for machine parts, can be hardened
1095 is for springs and such
then there are things like 4041, 8620, etc, etc, the first 2 digits have to do with moly and other additives, but I don't know the specifics
in EN norms those are smthg like: X10CrNiV18-8-1
but you don't want to go there :/
got that right
hmmm, I wonder if that RoHS crap is gonna affect the availibility of things like 12L14?
the L means it has some lead content - the lead improves machinibility a LOT
ok.. found S355
in the US it's : A572Gr50
[20:30:30] <alex_joni> http://www.steelstrip.co.uk/international_equivalents.htm
nice conversion page
if you ask me.. it's the most stupid thing that there is
the naming convensions
on all th e
on all the systems
well, steel is old
you wouldn't want to know what things you need to remember to read such a name
the X10CrNiV18-8-1 for instance:
(watching baseball - the other guys just scored, tied the game)
10 = 0,1%C, 18%Cr, 8%Ni, 1%V
but if it's 13CrMoV4-4-4
then 13=0,13%c, Cr=1% (the 4 gets divided by 4), Mo=0,4% (gets divided by 10), V=0,4% (same as Mo)
the only visible difference is the X in the beginning :/
double crap :-( score 4-1
as someone might say
2 games left in the season, need to win both to make the playoffs
don't look like its gonna happen
well the euro method isn't as bad as the US one... the last two digits are fine, but you need a magic decoder ring for the first two
nah.. actually it's not that easy
there's a table with materials
and their multiplier
there are some for 4, 10, 100, 1000
and based on that you do the math
so you need to remember that Cu,Al,Be,Mo,Nb,Pb,Ta,Ti,V,Zr are all with 10
in the real world (no exams) you don't "remember" any of that cruft, you just keep a reference book handy ;-)
it's even worse for around here
there was a local naming convension STAS
which was dropped in favour of DIN
which now gets dropped for EN
change is good (or so they say)
not for names
* jmkasunich hates change
especially the DIN was a bad choice
DIN is/was german standard
gets dropped in germany aswell
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* alex_joni hates reading this stuff :/
what sort of stuff?
damn, i gotta get my crapahalic working, i need it :(
materials & such
what happened to crapplication?
aka halgui ?
crapplication is pretty ok
it's the halgui (crapahalic) that needs work
any progress on it?
none, except i realised i wan't to make a more general interface/wrapper for the canvas thingie
i find my self doing repetive stuff, but i don't see any good solution to it yet :/
maybe i should try something crazy, like implementing it in haskell
ValarQ: what's this about a HAL gui?
jmkasunich: a crapplication like interface for HAL
* ValarQ searches for a screenshot
* jmkasunich doesn't know what crapplication is
jmkasunich: it's a small pcb-editor
I find the concept (approach) interesting
instead of an offline stuff
it's more like an frontend to halcmd
I've wanted to do something along those lines almost as long as HAL has existed
but I'm a poor GUI programmer
alex_joni: yeah, thats my thoughts about it
jmkasunich: you're getting old
getting old? I am old
* alex_joni remebers jmkasunich and ValarQ talking about it
a few months ago ;)
HAL is a pretty neat thingie
i have been using it for more wild things than emc2
would be pretty cool to break it out of emc2 to have it in a separate package someday
I've thought about that
- I haven't actually written any code there yet. Don't want to divide effort between that and EMC.
like to talk more, but time to leave
(our baseball team blew their chance at the playoffs, so we're gonna take out our frustrations by shooting bits of paper)
back in a couple hours
if you have more thoughts on ways for HAL to go, email me
jmkasunich at att dot net
ok, how many developers are there behind HAL?
about a couple
* alex_joni counts
hmmm, I think that's it ;)
the AUTHORS file in the cvs is even shorter than that
[vq@hugin] ~/apps/cnc/emc2 $ ls -l docs/AUTHORS
-rw-r--r-- 1 vq users 0 12 jun 2004 docs/AUTHORS
check the various files
it usually says who did what
yeah i know, i just started of by checking the AUTHORS file
obviously jmk has written all the files i ripped when i wrote my pwm controlling driver/monster
the driver required pretty low fp_period value to render an acceptable signal for the servos :/
shortly... it's a monster
i think i give up that crazy idea of writing the fe in haskell
i'm not very good at writing fe's in haskell :(
great language othervise thought
[22:21:58] <alex_joni> http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/displayimage.php?album=11&pos=92
not sure it runs on *nix
no prob, a small curl+mplayer hack does the trick ;)
oh mein got!
thats pretty impressive
most of the movies there are
* ValarQ starts writing a crapcanvas library
now that's what I call a stupid dog
rcsu: need help?
alex_joni: no, just lurking for now
Had a dlink pci wifi card go bad, called T/S "That model in no longer supported". I just bought it a few months ago and still under the 1yr warranty plus you just updated drivers in march", "That model is no longer supported *CLICK*".
jymmm: certified mail can cure a lot of ills like that
Jymmm: this will cheer you up : http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/displayimage.php?album=11&pos=120
when companies screw with you and refuse to support their products, a letter describing the circumstances and warning of possible further action usually will bring them into line.
they really don't like things to get documented and then to turn into class action lawsuits.
icee: Usually. I'll call their marketing VP this week. That should resovle future issues as Marketing controls EVERYTHING in a company.
Depends on the company.
Many companies are sales driven or engineering driven.
BUT.... the dlink router I have which is much older they'll provide support for.
anyway, the techs are the pushers to biz
i have the nc-step card, can i directly connect em to the minimot driver ?
* rcsu is wondering that noone is responding
noone around with nc-step cards
got a link?
its in german: http://www.nc-step.de/step3d.html
so.. what emc flavour you plan to use?
there are quite a few :D
the board looks pretty standard step/dir (for 3 channels)
so I think connecting it to emc shouldn't be a problem
uh, i would use a self compiled version
not one of the BDI stuff
i ask only for the cabling thing
if you want self compiled, then I'd avise emc2
in that case you don't need to worry about the cabling
using HAL you can easily connect the signals to any parport pins you like (in software)
afaik, emc2 is last updated 2003/4
i.e. to match your phisical setup
emc2 is the current development version
emc1 is stable with only bugfixes to receive
but emc2 is where things are happening
:) you need a bug fixer ?
latest commit about 29.09.2005
[22:58:18] <alex_joni> http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/emc
svn or cvs ?