Forgot...let me check
[00:01:25] <les> http://www.itwauto.it/
that is one of many we have there
some of my inventions are on that site
I see a picture of one of my old technicians too!
right yesterday whatcing on tv i've seen latest fiat punto
seem to be a nice car
Fiat was one of my early customers for one invention
I am about ready for a new car
i'm looking anyway
I cannot decide...
sports car or big "old person" car?
it depend how big is your family ..
like audi A4
kids are grown...just me
I have 3 cars right now
truck, sedan for trips, and an old 4WD vehicle
i like old cars..
[00:09:02] <gezr> http://cgi.ebay.com/1000-SOUTH-BEND-STURDIMILL-UNIVERSAL-HORIZONTAL-MILL_W0QQitemZ7522293969QQcategoryZ12584QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
they dont' lose value in the time
les if you have a moment let me know if thats decent iron?
but hard to find..
gezr: nice price..
[00:10:28] <gezr> http://www.surplusrecord.com/cgi-bin/ad_spec.pl?402984|P
the only prob.. i'm in eu :\
is a newer one I think
Im interested in a small machine with the swivel table
looks ok...but I am more familiar with cincinatti and b&s
horizintals go for scrap value these days
wow, the second link I posted is uber
or too good if you want to buy one
I love horizontal, the second one, has a vertical head
We kept a line of B&S #5 running till 2000
and its not a r8 taper machine :)
took em out...$250 each to scrap dealer.
man, I think im going to have to get it
robin_sz : howdy
are we well?
im in love
[00:13:37] <gezr> http://www.surplusrecord.com/cgi-bin/ad_spec.pl?402984|P
not with me!
lots of engineering work...so yeah well
oh, that is nice ...
just got finished talking to patent lawyers
depends how rusty it was before they painted it ..
doesnt matter, have scraper
but if its original paint .. then it must have been in a store!
very nice, now .. how much is it?
looks like a clean machine
no idea, ill have to call for quote
but it has the swivel table
I have been contemplating more shop space
and its not the mit grizzly one
build another structure or lease industrial space?
build if you have the space and funds
gottas watch it...I am zoned agricultural
call it a barn
" machine tool farm"?
and just farm the minimal acragage
yeah, but "farm diversifaction" is a big thing these days
and if anyone asks tell them, you had a water issue
I am a farmer...must be...bought a tractor...right?
oh lord, found one for 12,500 us
yeah, just say you are relocating operations from your ex New Orleans facility and you'll probably get govmt funding ;)
build if you can ...
better than giving money each month to a landlord
at some point I will live at a factory...
plus .. its on your home patch ... you can wander in and out when you want
I do like that
how many amps to drive 10hp?
5.6A at 415 I think
what about 220v, 3 phase rotary converter, to run a 7.5hp motor
rotary ... what width of belt?
robin_sz: i'm going to order optocouplers..
robin_sz : capicator make up
could you take a look to the types ?
Jacky^: I use the 2530 HP optos, seem fine
gezr: no, what width of belt will it use?
oh I have no idea robin
my rotary can just start 10 hp.... uses about 30 amps 240 but it's all reactive power
robin i found 6n136 or 6n137
wires don't know that though...
gezr: I presume you will run the rotary convertor from pulleys on the overhead spindles .. driven by Oxen?
robin_sz : i mean 2 to 3 phase power converter
output opn collector, its ok ?
gezr: yeas, but we went electronic *years* ago you know
Jacky^: yeah, open collector is fine
open collector plus 3k pull up resistor=good
i will buy 6n137, 10 mb ..
les: you should see hte optos he has ... with 1K its 3db down at 10khz
I know many optos are slow
yeah .. but these are slooooow
gezr: you can get nice VFDs on eBay... electronic single to 3 pahse .. nice low start currents and many great benefits
just re-wire the motor from 415 delta to 220v star and hook it up
hey Robin...I have ITW finishing systems brass coming here!!!
thats just it, I cannot get 3 phase electrical service at my house
you know...Binks and Devilbiss
gezr: I just said .. they take 220 single in and deliver 220 3 phase out to the motor wired in delta
les you going to electrify one of them to prove it works?
have them all stand on a 2" slab of polystyrene ... hold hands and we want to see the photo!
oh wait no .. they are top brass, probably dont have hair ;)
They made me join the "100,000 club at ransburg /gema
and this was when you had hair too?
they liked to do tesla stuff
you know...above 700 hz high voltage
light incandescent bulbs from arm to arm
gezr: you can do 220 single pahse to 3 pahse with a small block about 6" cube , all electronic and fulltprotected for a few hundred dollars / prbably less expensive than a rotary
we have doen similar stuff with RF
I was quoted about $500 for a 7.5 kW inverter
robin_sz : yeah, my bad, I wasnt thinking about that method
some aerial fields, you dont need a torch ... just a flourescent tube
droitwich for example ... a pair of 250Kw AM transmitters on 198khz ...
our lowest is 10 kHz I think...for submarines
yeah, wound around a mountain
droitwich we had UV detectors in the field .. incase insulators flashed over ..
dropped it to 1/4 power for 0.25 seconds
that was the good part
the bad part was it also detected lightning and anyone welding
and pigeons ...
pigeons thought the 600R ladder feeder was a great place to roost
the average roosting time was measured in milliseconds ...
it was AM, 0.5mw average, but 2mw on peaks ..
thats real watts, not with aerial gain
I have a strange problem here....
the business is suddenly doing well...
uh huh ...
I have forgotten how to spend money!
oh, just let the business do well for a while
made no money for a couple years
the spending money bit will return
* robin_sz knows that feeling
airplanes or women could fix that easily
weird feeling though
or start collecting something
never felt like this
well, get a bit put back in the bank eh, for a riany day
maybe a nice PA38?
won't always be like this
I still love archers
what about a nice bonsai?
[00:40:07] <robin_sz> http://www.bonsaikitten.com/
bonsai with cats!
I saw that
its a good hoax :)
same crew that did http://www.rentmydaughter.com/
oh my, I hope I can get a good quote on that machine, Ill offer a tad, but if they are "firm" they can let it rust on site
that *really* gets feminists wound up ... they go ballistic
We will tell you about that later when hillary buys the presidency
you mean elected?
I seem to not be able to deal with maternal social structures
having been married twice
she is a fine example for women the world over to stand by your man
oh les, I still plan on a trip over and down to see you some times
so, NYC was "interesting"
i have to go back in 6 weeks or so
yeah how was it?
mmm .. .well, it will be nice when they modernise it :)
and give it a clean
and like the brooklyn bridge ..
its a major acces point ..
and rusting to fsck
but, it was interesting all the same
Chicago had a lot of rusty old riveted iron bridges
you know, you see cop films in NYC and think "wonder how they found that backstreet with the stemaing sewer covers"
huge amounts of salt are used on the roads in winter
then you reallise, they have hundreds of streets like that
greenwich village wass nice at night
chelsea was ... different
well, I have gone to big city living to way out in the back woods
miss some things
robin_sz: good book to give to feminists , or read your self and practice on wife :)
[00:51:11] <AchiestDragon> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0963976397/qid=1126135925/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-7094983-8579645
yeah, I prefer backwoods
a little too quiet
I hope my exes don't read that book
AchiestDragon: ;) ... I would buy it for my wife, but she might try and train me instead!
actually so what if they do...
I seem to be untrainable
uncontrollable more like!
even by moonshiner's daughter (last ex)
oh yes, I saw the photo ...
or Irish girls (first ex)
God Irish girls are cute...but when they get mad.....
indeed. mines half Irish ...
and I have the bruises to prove it
so are my kids!
now .. .that I dod not know ... you bred?
im suprised yo found time
Irish girls make sure you have the time.
any of them tunr into little engineers?
son and daughter...
son plays lead guitar in a rock band
daughter is just at home
you still wont let her go out hu?
I should be ashamed
lives at first ex house
son is kinda wild
can't control him
wonder where he got that from?
30 6N137 !
robin_sz: are enough 30 pz ?
you planning on blowing many up?
well, 6 for out
3 for input , right ?
whats a 6n137?
gezr: a better optocoupler than pc187 :\
les: His father, have you ever met him?! :o
quad or hex is good.
for driving stppers, dual is OK
step and dir
gezr: What, you dont know how to use google???? http://www.isocom.com/6N137.htm
jymmm: most of my offspring call me daddy...I think
Jymmm : google?
* robin_sz sees Jymmm is in non-confrontational mode again
les and the neighbors offspring too
robin_sz no more than your normal amount.
hey, dingbat, you measured the twist on that gantry yet you slacker?>
robin_sz Nope, and not gonna either.
I'm always in non confrontational mode. GOT IT?
les got it! =)
you know why dont you? becuase it twists like a bit of bent tin and you wont admit it ;)
robin_sz: I could care less.
or did you ship it back?
jymmm needs to make some signs
I could sub some out
les, signs, sawdust, anything at this point=)
les, motion better now?
les: Just playing at the moment, waiting for replacement parts to arrive.
so, still nto right then huh?
this was excessive play in one axis right?
.004" backlash...jymmm needs "bigger balls"
les: I had a theory that the desing of that router would suffer from excessive twist in the gantry when you pushed one carriage backe, the other one forward, as it was centre leadscrew driven, and had small spacing between the X axis pillow blocks
especially with the gantry at "mid X" position
as there is no bracing across the base
wel you know I am not a big fan of single screw gantries
well .. yeah
they CAN work, but only if the X pillow block spacing is large
they work OK on sliding table designs
anything under square is pushing it really
and that desing is like 4:1 under square
lots of deflection
it is wood only
I suspect with like 200N the dflection will be over 2mm
* Jacky^ loves wood
which I would say is unworkable
unless you have jerk-limited motion
well... 100N is typical for wood routers
what law would say that thing of motion should be as close to slide to make right?
sadly, for some reason Jymmm refuses to divulge the amount ...
jymmm is having fun
well, thats ok, because Ive seen his website
les: what about 3D homebuild scanner ? how they work, never tried one ?
I havent got a machine because I stay focused on specific things, instead of action
well he can always make foasm signs...cutting force=zero
at least he has something that moves
les: well, yeah but its not just cutting force is it ...
theres the mass of the router ...
I have managed to build one simple acme screw drawer slide
with unbounded jerk a 5kg router at one side of the gantry will play hell
robin_sz : he may decide, to go with 2 screws, linked together with a timming belt, and a single drive motor
I used a jackshaft
would timming belts be okay?
yeah, that would help a lot, BUT when you buy someting new, you expect it to work, right?
timing belts are fine, doen that before
robin_sz : are we talking bulets?
What CAM is everyone using?
turbocad gonna probably get trubocam some day
* robin_sz only does 2.5D these days ...
Jymmm: logitech :)
its windos, and ive owned the software for years, but I can hardly use it
yeah I think its only 2.5 as well, but I dont know, havent tried the cam stuff out, they want 300 bucks from me for full version
depends on what you wanna do? 3d relief stuff? signmaking? art? engineering?
for engineering, Visual Mill ...
for art, artcam or Type3
jymmm I use millwrite mostly for signs
or master gcode
for signs, Scanvec Enroute or Inspire or EngraveLab
which if you have tons of lines, youll lose your mind
les : I got ahold of the guy today, will be ordering .1245" .1250" .1255"
Jymmm : eh?
I know it was to less, but that pretty close to each other somethings
les He almost immediately asked about spacers too
err, les not less, les is more
gezr: ball bearins for the faulty ballscrew
no, les is less, but les is more
more or less
Jymmm : whats faulty about your balls?
gezr: Nothing, just not preloaded.
let me check, my balls really quick
gezr: you havent seen his website, then you'd know whats worng with his balls ;)
some use spacers and some do not
gezr They are within specs/tolerance, just want to clean them up as much as possible.
if you are at .124 and have .004 backlash....
will need more than .1255
but try it
my balls are like .125~ ish, I have a 2x2" box full of them
Jymmm : web site?
it will be a n education
les: Well, I said that to him too. and he said way too big.
Jymmm : are the screws hardned?
and currently not flaking at all?
les said to try the smaller increments as it's really half.
well, he must be the expert. Try it.
les he says he'll have ppl right at the counter swapping out the balls befor ethey even leave.
I can send some of my balls to you, or inspect some for you, if they arnt charging you an arm and leg for replacements?
Jymmm : whats your web site, I dont think I have it bookmarked
gezr: These are Chrome Alloy, grade 25
the balls I have are ball screw balls, not a rack of bearings, I mean your web site?
now, im having fun :)
les: He's working on a 4" ball that's withing 2 millionths.
how handy :)
les DOE stuff
a ball that size would definately go with les's shuttle tank model
actually the ball bearing manufacturing process is a foundation of the industrial revolution
speaking of the foam, cant they just wrap some wire around that damn thing after its been insulated?
les : you mean a wire mes screen and a water bucket?
or some sort of polymer net
les : that is sorta what they did at first isnt it?
motel metal, poured into a fine wire mesh screen, then water to quench the balls in
gezr: its afairly basic process using two plates and some grinding paste
do dodecahedral closed packed balls in a slurry all tend to be the same size when tumbled?
I think not since the two plate method is used
its fairly basic technology, they probably did it that way from early on
ive never looked into ball making
right, wife in shower .. I must go ;)
he may be thinking he will be
perhaps...she's half irish
les hey, you think that south bend horizontal is a nice machine to have in the garrage?
the swivel table would really be uber for gears
it looked ok
I havent got my gear nut yet
those things can take off some serious metal
you know I would love to have something that size to produce my cnc mini mills
lots and lots of gears
all gears, like everything else, are made in china.
I would have it shopped to where I work, would have to take it apart, take it home in bits, and put it all back together
hey, you know that grizzly I was asking about?
I emailed a guy who got one, he was disapointed with it, and hardly used it
he said the horizontal spindle burned out quickly as well
but really, I am making a pretty good living with old post industrial tooling
les your legs must get tired turnin that spindle all day long
every one else is melting them down
les : look, either I buy something like tha tone, or just give up all together you know
les OH... you said POST, I thought you said PRE =)
Ive ran huge equipment, and know what it takes to make chips fly
really...I buy old machines that industry can't use any more...and I'm making pretty good money!
an uber horizontal that can launch chips of flaming metal out my garrage, over my car and into the street would just do it to it
les becasue you know what you are doing?!
and probably piss everyone off, but I would do it as a distraction for the teenagers, who think its cool to wind out the 4 wheeler, that uncle joe brought over
well I do engineering...but I have to have machine tools to make ideas a reality
I can make chips fly with a hand drill
gezr I prefer a hand grinder
I was looking at drill presses today...perhaps need a bigger one
a gear head one
colum type les?
now with big holes I just do them on the mill
the one we have at work, is from the 40s I guess, and it has been worn de hell out
even a large, raidal arm press, is going to be hard pressed to punch 2.5" holes
unless using indexable carbide drills
I don't know...I am just upping the hp and size of everything as business grows
tools are so cheap to buy now
they are almost free.
not the shit im looking at
at each turn, it hit some magical point and the price goes up 10x
compared to labor
you can buy a nice little VMC for 30k
les : after thinking about mit machines and what yall said, ive have resorted to old iron that I really have no business putting into a garrage, instead of a mit bridgeport
mit that is yeah
I just want good ole iron
and I can rebuild, repair at will, and have something I can be proud of I guess
I have made a lot of successful product prototypes on a vertical mill made in 1942
we ask the old guy at work sometimes, what is was like carving stone with Moses
old say holds true.... they dont make things like they used to.
getting a second one...but will keep and still use the old one
the new stuff is good too, it just doesnt seem to last
I fixed it up...it runs sweet
gezr then is not that good is it?
take mini mills, there are tons of pages dedicated just to making them good
Jymmm : its a mater of perspective you kow
les Did I mention that I can only get 90 IPM under win/nix, but can get 180IPM under DOS ?
I was going to just get a series 2 to run with emc...but now I think a small VMC would be better
I have a friend with a really nice, mit, enco chage belt mill, the thing is awsome
ive seen a lot of series 2 machines on ebay lately
jymmm dos is soft real time if you don't flush buffers
I need to work on emc auto tool change stuff...it's not quite there
im goign to go to bed you guys
Jymmm : let me know if you cant get a good price on balls
Jymmm : I can measure you out a few sets
I have to go to sleep early for work, it keeps me happy at work
Jymmm : or just send you a set or 2, and let you repack your screws and see what you think
that way your not out a dime
just let me know
or not, doesnt really mater, but I dont mind doing it for you
les say what?
gezr: Ah, very cool. You have them in those increments?
Jymmm... what are the balls worth?
well, those increments, I would have to check, I think what I have is a box of 1/8th inch balls
I must have over 600 of the darn things
dont drop the box!
I think I spilled 20 or more balls just checking it out earlier
There may be a reason thomson uses such undersize balls...like short term lead error. We'll see.
well if they get too tight, they will flake the nut casing, and the screw
and thats wicked bad ugly
LawrenceG .125" he said are cheap. His biggest thing was me meeting the $20 minimum order, I think that'll be no boggy
Jymmm : let me ship you some, how many do you need?
mine use oversize balls...i.e. they have to be forced in
but very very good lead accuracy is required to do that
les what did you mean when you said something about DOS ?
it can be soft reat time
les dos is soft real time if you don't flush buffers
les what do you mean by that?
don't write to the hard drive!
or update a display
gezr: They have a $20 min order, plus I dont know if .125 is the right size
les: Ah, well I couldn't get >90IPM under anythign else.
scrolling the screen puts wicked hickups in the pulse train
Jymmm : if you want me to, I can inspect enough balls for you to get an idea as to what you need, and let you decide on what you need to buy
Jymmm : do you know the exact size of your current balls?
let me go inspect one really quick
Well, general purpose microprocessors tend to be poor signal generators!
Of course I use servos in machine tools.
les: Well, before I go spending more money on a sig gen, I need to start paying for what I got, then go on from there.
especially when users keep wanting to poke at the keyboard and expecting a response
there is an exception:
ther paint robot
usinf steppers there
inherently explosion proof?
les wheres the fun in that?!
les dont forget to hipot test it while in operation too
I just ground everything
again, wheeres the fun in that?
Jymmm : .1248 give or take a tenth, using a rough set, v anvil mic
just touching the damn balls, makes em larger
how many do you want
it's all good, they shouldn't charge me too much for a variety of sizes.
they are all cert too
gezr do you know the material/grade?
just that they are for ball screws
gezr: Thanks for the offer, but I'd rather not take a chance.
thats cool, and fully understandable
Now, if you have a double tube ballnut =)
les : when you repack balls, did you use greese to help hold things together a bit?
I reworked the return tube with a file... seats much better now.
this fscking tooth of mine... bbl
gezr, I didn't. I just hung around at the HIWIN facility and talked to the people that repacked the nuts
and watched them
les : you know how to flake/frost right?
okay, goodnight, maybe more talke morrow
ok good night
you leaving les?
les : Yeah, toothache.
but you don't type with your tooth.
know of any digital probes?
none that are affordable for me.
I know some optical ones... omron.
what about a DIY one?
which freak'n reminds me.
www.dakeng.com there's a circuit for a tach prob.
resolution ones are best bought off ebay.
dont see one on dakeng
[06:01:31] <A-L-P-H-A> http://www.dakeng.com/threading.html
I need to measure depth, not rpm
Jymmm, oh a digital prob?
hack a calipre... or search USPatent for digital prob... there's schematics on there... no dimensions, just schematics.
and a digital prob, can be bought for like $60USD... maybe even cheaper on ebay.
[06:18:56] <Jymmm> http://cgi.ebay.com/Solatron-digital-probe_W0QQitemZ7542981621QQcategoryZ41938QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
me neither =)
the one I was thinking off, has an audiable sound, or a LED that goes on/off
which would be easy to hack to send a digital signal.
heh, I found one, and only one.
damn it's warm in my room.
and it's like 20oC outside to.
time to open a window
hmm.... I found a new favourite word... hehe... callipygian
I'm on ubuntu! and I am Happy!
does it hurt?
it hurt before...
as I couldn't get my mouse to work.
it was a kernel problem.
solved by others...
now I'm happy, and it's working! :D
reinstalled it completely... and I have notes on my gmail account, which I'm redoing.
what where the two emc wiki pages?
there's the official, and the unofficial.
I don't remember the unofficial.
alex_joni, you remember what I'm talking about?
how to I restart X? alt-control-backspace?
nm. :) hahaha
now I'm trying to find my ipod.
try : updatedb
I don't know what device it is...
it's linked via firewire.
the partion manager thing, found it.
identified it as a HP-ipod
there is an HPET.
buahahha... unplug, and replug in. wham. done. mounted.
linux has come so far... I'm about to cry
* alex_joni goes away for a while
:( my wiki page got pruned.
oh, wrong page. heh
what's better? evolution or thunderbird?
_AchiestDragon is now known as AchiestDragon
actually cool enough to turn on the heat this morning
nice weather to sleep though
ciao Jymmm :)
afternoon here :P
what you doing this morning ?
wakin gup -> unknown words :\
its a nice thing ? :P
have a nice brekfast :)
I'm drinking my breakfast now
do you think steppers can play a guitar ?
van halen emc :D
i've 2 acoustic guitar ..
* Jacky^ mumble mumble..
whats in italy ? :P
i'm new user of emc,
i'm from rome
rome ? nice
how is the weather there ?
here storm.. damn storm
cloudy, sorry for my english. i have an old x y plotter fom sekonic
bad english ?
ouch .. please speak correct english here
i can try to speak a little of italian..
he's kidding - any english is fine
lets try ..
problem hai ?
sono italiano !
ok.. kidding ..
Jacky^: you're not a big help here
my problem is how to use only 2 axis and z on/off
instead of using the Z axis you can use a coordinated digital output
i modified the plotter with L297/L298 for the two axis, and now ....
for the lpt port, but i don't know how to connect the pen actuator.
is Z a solenoid that requires a digital input?
you have to drive the solenoid with a pin from the parallel port
you will need to make a simple transistor driver
then write your G code using M62 and M63
ok, and set some ini file?
M62 P8 = turn on bit 8
M63 P8 = turn off bit 8
or maybe it's M64/65
I don't remember!
anyway that's the general idea you will use
some people use this to run a laser
exactly the same idea as your plotter
i'd like to use my plotter for pcb prototype
can you draw with an etch resistant pen?
I also wanted to do that with my old plotter, but never did
bosone: my plotter has different pen pressures for felt tip or roller ball or drafting pens
so it is not simply a digital solenoid
I'm not sure how the variable pressure worked
bosone: why do not build a 3 axis machine and mill too ?
pulse rate == pressure
Jymmm: PWM, I assume
lot time ago with indelebile pen and hp7470 plotter (hpgl protocol) directli on pcb
cradek yeah, seems simplest method
bosone: did it etch properly when just drawn with a pen? I've had bad luck with those pens
i have a big laser
produced from SDL
right this afternoon, i was thinking how to directly print a pcb using a lesr printer..
at work i used a machine for pcb, but the drill head is very expensive!!
on ebay i found my laser
at about 130$
bosone: its seem to me absourd to use a laser for pcb ..
for what you mean
when you can build a complete machine with about 200 e.
wich wor area you need ?
thats ok ..
you can find stepper on micromed for E. 5
with a dremel youre ok
its funny :D
also, you can use some old printer
cradek: you have some photographic expierence, right?
* Jacky^ bosone
use someone emc for pcb creation?
bosone: cradek does
eagle can produce gcode for pcb
eagle can import gerber?
* alex_joni is still looking at D50 and D350 XT
alex_joni sucks to be you
not so sure ;)
alex_joni: You mean 350D? I have the 300D. I'm still happy with it after a year and a half.
bosone: eagle can produce gcode, no idea if it can import..
wanted to bug you about this
but you weren't around
yes, the canon 350D Rebel XT
a friend just bought D70 and he likes it. The included lens is nicer than my first lens.
alex_joni: any specific questions?
I've seen a nice package (350D with 2 lenses)
what would you pick :D
say.. you didn't have any canon or nikon lenses
I like the 350D for the optional battery pack
What two lenses? The Sigma 18-50 and 55-200 are the lenses I started with
smthg like that
was about 1k overall iirc
excuseme, gcode from eagle can drive my solenoid (or laser) by bit 8/M62/G63?
bosone: it should, and if not you might tweak it with a script to do so
bosone: probably, not .. you need manually add the commands to do it
bosone: gcode generation in eagle is done in their user programming language (ULP) so you can customize the porgram to give the appropriate commands.
it seem always a good thing to learn a little of gcode..
bosone: there are contributed scripts on the cadsoft website, but cradek and I use a customized one which is at http://unpy.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/eagle/ulp/gcode.ulp
bosone: (the 1.2 version is well tested, the 1.3 version isn't)
just yesterday i ordered from rs-components 20 uln2003 ..
ok, thanks to all !! now i'm going to complete my hardware. see you leater.
today, looking i found already have 40 mc1413, equivalent ! doh
alex_joni: how much shooting are you going to do, and how much will you use the flash? I find that one freshly charged battery lasts over 2 full days, but I shoot with flash only rarely.
bosone: ciao :) alla prossima ;)
I don't like battery packs ;)
same here (about flash), but I find myself on trips where I can't recharge
and I don't want to pack a lot of packs
alex_joni: where you can't recharge? You mean camping or something?
so I prefer that battery pack as it can hold normal batteries (if I read it corectly)
You need a product like this one. http://www.realgoods.com/renew/shop/product.cfm/dp/1000/sd/1006/ts/5410182
there are similar things made specifically to work with camera battery chargers, too, but I think they're just a bundle with the 12V automotive version of the charger included.
what if it rains?
alex_joni I use recharable batteries
Jymmm: fit into the D50 ?
fuck if I know
or Nikon foobar ?
no, batpack. but comes with a holder for usinf cr22 iirc
SB800 uses AA
but it's high drain, the camera isn't
sb800 speed light
[22:32:51] <alex_joni> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007WK8LC/102-4610932-0867365?v=glance
[22:34:18] <Jymmm> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00007E80J/qid=1126214175/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2_etk-photo/102-1222932-1224110?v=glance&s=photo&n=502394
[22:34:36] <Jymmm> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009EWDTS/qid=1126214175/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3_etk-photo/102-1222932-1224110?v=glance&s=photo&n=502394
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hey alex_joni - Your mirror is out of date.
it's pretty late ;)
paul_c: the changelog seems outdated
Change.log is fine.
* alex_joni waits till tomorrow, maybe a new version comes up :P
That's the last one.
I'm sure you had enough of them
"had enough of them" is, um.. close enough.
hey... Did you realise libnml is over 50% smaller than rcslib ?
heh.. lots of crap ;)
removed I mean
There is/was quite a bit of redundant code in there..
* paul_c slaps ChanServ around.
im tired for some reason
tired, or bored ?
sleepy tired, as in take a nap.
to order balls, it's $0.20 each at qty 100.
time fer bed.