Machines like that are well within the range of something you can build
3,5 m x 2,5 m.
oh really? that big? never mind.haha
but 1x1 meter...no problem
that what i need
i will knock to the door of my girlfriend
let see what she think ..
1x1 is a good size
in reallity 800 x 400 is probably big enough
for a "home" router
1x1 is "small shop"
3.5 x 2.5 is "madness" ;)
keeps you out of that simply suppoeted beam deflection= cube of length thing
machines do not scale linearly
twice as big= EI 8 times as much
EI EI O
where can you buy 2.5 x 3m sheets of meterial?
what is the standard sheet size over there?
2.5 x 1.25 is normal
1.5 x 3m is also available
2x1 is common too
similar to 4x8 feet here
for MDF yeah 2.5x1.25 is the common size
the 1.5x3 is for steel only
not much reason to get bigger than that
oh yeah ...
heres one ...
say you have a pack of steel
on the fork truck
you take it to the laser
position over the bed
and .. normally I just tilt it then "float" a sheet off with the airline
this is 2.5 x1.25m 6mm
this pack is pickled and oiled, not dry
soon as I tilt it .. it all slides
half on the truck, half on the laser ... half overhanging
seems 1.25x.625 would be a good size for a half sheet cnc for mdf
took 2 hours to get it all back on the stack :(
1.3 tonnes of it
I am getting lift forks for my tractor...should help in the shop a bit
or just buy and old stacker truck
they are *so* useful
les chrome or nickle plated forks?
the fine control of lift with hydraulics is great
you can do millimetre movements
haha A36 structural steel
oh, heres a useful rule of thumb
mild steel .. 1.25 x 2.5
40mm is a tonne
5 x 8mm sheets ..
40 1mm sheets
The tractor lift hydraulics are much faster than a forklift...but you can "feather" the spool valve to go slow
needs a light touch on the joystick
but a fork truck reaches 3m and tilts too
great for stacking wood
I have rented them
I paid �300 for mine
cheap, blown head gasket
woah...I rented for $200/day for an all terrain one
wow .. expensive
mine still has a blown head gasket ...
I just leave it dry
I checked at a rental house for the tractor I bought...also $200/day
ok for up to 2 minutes
I am still trying to learn what is too much to pick up
when the wheels come off the floor .. thats it
There is a mouse in the wall in my office...I can hear it
12 gauge ?
les: try with glue
it's loaded...under the bed
glue for the mouse
or get Congo to earn his keep rather than playing with the chicken all day.
congo can't get inside a wall. and is so old he stopped catching mice!
Congo the cat is 16 years old.
His Chicken is at least 3
should be a record for a cat
A solitary chicken Follows Congo everywhere
looks very silly
Paul knows this is true.
poor lonely chicken
birds are such social creatures
les: get a garden gun
yeah...and it was alone...and only congo aroud...so it follows him
you have those in the USA?
we must have another name
filled with very fine shot
or sand or some other goop
designed for small vermin at less than 10m
I have some shotguns and an 1840 smoothbore from the French ST Etienne armory
do they know its missing?
we call garden guns "rat shot" here
hey it's in a wall!
I think there a .22 garden cartridge as well
drill a hole
AW I only shoot at tin cans with US civil war guns...muzzle loaders
les hole in wall, rat poison at entrance
I was making triggerbox sideplates for pistols today
little semi-auto .22 things
rana batch out for a gunsmith in the UK
I have not finished my >50 hawken flint yet
actually, no ...
they are not pistols
too busy with air electricity generators
you hold them in one hand, arm out ..
it has a hand grip ..
and might look like a pistol ..
but .. it has a longer barrel
and a rod sticking out the back
technically, its a rifle
as we have no pistols here
only firearm I designed was a powder nail gun
I did not do a full sress analysis
do they explode?
just overengineered the hell out of it
seen the new gas ones?
as in butane
les cordite for rat control?
you mean the Paslode giun?
many brands now
Robin, we invented it. I designed part of it.
And it's MAPP not butane
like an air stapler, but self contained
over here, its butan
ITW invented it.
we dont do mapp
thats the poly propylene stuff right?
I designed some of the shock absorbing particularly for the fan motor
MAPP is an oxygenated fuel
just a sec
[00:40:12] <les> http://www.paslode.com/
Paslode is an ITW company. I have an ITW Fellowship. The air electicity thing is for ITW too.
they all seem to be compressed air or electric
yes Paslode make air tools as well
cant see any gas ones
But the Impulse is a single stroke MAPP powered piston engine
with a spark plug
looks like they dropped it from the product line
[00:46:31] <les> http://www.paslode.com/products/tool_catalog/IMCT.html
you know, their web site is really fscked up
I couldnt see any mantion of mapp gas
the battery pack and ...
Powerful Motor - Drives 2" to 3 1/4" fasteners for every framing application. Versatile; can do a wide variety of jobs with one tool
made me think it was all electtric
we don't emphasis it
no shit ;)
mapp rocks, andhowdy yall
we dont see it much inthe UK
mercans use it for heating and welding I tink
we use acetylene
I dont know about heating
but welding yeah
heating as in metals with a heating torch
for cheap rigs, other wise its acetylene
oh yeah, its a bit better then a propane canaster
whooot, wife tells me its dinner time
thats OK for cutting
ah was my 98 yo grandma across the street
youhave a street?
or does "across the street" mean a mile away?
my last name!
so good, they named a road after him
Aw she was worried about the rain
we have a weak tropical low over us
summer here ..
continuous rain for about 40 hrs
better check the engine on the swamp buggy }
98 yo grandma also thinks she need a tooth filling in...
her wisdom tooth!!!
can you believe that?
got a dremel?
I had a nice encounter with the dremel 1" rotary razor saw once.
les I thought you said that they all lost their teeth at age 30 in that area?
buried it in the back of my hand
or was it 13?
all others are shot by about 13 , yeaH
To be fair, I am just about out of functional molars too. I live off of mush.
in the UK now, extractions are rare
Aw I had many root canals and crowns
they get filled before they get that bad over here
acid reflux dissolved them
they reckon it has had a big effect on heart disease too
that's ok. Cigs will kill me.
arlready has really
tooth decay is strongly linked to heart disease it seems
I have read such
that and fatty food
but if you smoked for many years none of that matters much
you know there is a little crease you get in your ear lobe when heart disease sets in?
is it possible to mix stepper and servos ?
is 55-0-55 on a xfmr 55VCT or 110VCT ?
should I get a mirror?
dunno, its a psecific crease you have to look for
servos for XY and stepper for Z, it's a good idea ?
wife can do it easy ...
my HDL/LDL colesterol is great...but I have a hole in my stomach and shot lungs.
apart from that .. your fit as a fiddle right?
les just slap some bondo on that hole and you'll be good to go!
isn't that spelled cholesterol?
I swear I think I could do "home titanium tooth inserts"
oh jacky. you could mix, but why?
simple.. i could buy 2 servos instead of 3
yes but then two controllers
Z axis should work fine with a goosd stepper, I suppose..
go all servo...you will be happy
Well I got up at 5:00 am for shuttle landing today...but it was aborted dur to low clouds.
I am not getting up at 4 for the next attempt tommorow.I worked on the shuttlea bit.
also italy seem have some partecipartion on space station
I did low mach flow studies on the external fuel tank in school.
ah.. fuel ?
Italy made thelogistics module
lH2 and lO2
have you seen the atr crashed in south italy ?
they sayd maybe was a fuel ..
they are investigating
it seem there are 2 type of fuel
first taked in tunisi
second in italy..
Yes....Jet A and 100LL...but we pilots are caefully trained to check
ATR uses jetA
fuel was mixed
mixed could be hard to detect
they are looking at Bari airoport
so the engines failed?
they said are analizyng the fuel
to see if there's some external
like water for es.
I had engine failure once. I made it.
I was very close to the airport.
only 1 km
airplanes are machines...and machines break sometimes
anyway, someone also talk about human error
most air accidents are human error
it was very young
abou 26 if i remember well
I learned to fly much older...but I do not know if that helps
i think so
It is very expensive to go to flight school...so many are older before they can afford it
i don't believe in top gun film ..
i think a men with 35-40 years old have much experience
that a young man can't have
I try to be very careful..but if the airplane breaks there is not much I can do!
If the wing falls off you are dead meat...young or old
no difference ..
well if you are young you say:
if you are old you say:
I had a good life
he thanks the doctors in palermo
I will watch the news about that
they have said him has been good
and he sayd that isn't true
because many peoples are died
a little baby also
well jacky I will go to have dinner
i'm going to bed
earlier over here
have a nice night!
Jymmm is now known as Red70sShow
Red70sShow is now known as Jymmm
hello mr Joni
can't remember the rank :D
i was a sergeant ffs!
is that bigger than a captain?
* alex_joni has no clue ;)
good morning mr joni!
morning sir Knight
it even might turn out to be a great morning
hello sir Knight ;)
* alex_joni thinks people have completely lost it now
it's 6 pm here actually. i'm down under
today's the moment of truth for my first stepper driver designed and made by me.
i'm an electronics noob so i don't even know if it will work.
hey guys, can i ask a question?
i believe you just did
the ULN2003 Darlington, if i have the common connected to 12V, should i have it on a separate ground than the 5v vcc grounding?
i'm using a pc power supply
the D plug has 2 grounds
the PC power supply has all the grounds tied together
so it shouldn't matter
it even has the ground tied to PE
alex_joni is now known as alex_joni_away
oh ok, thanks!
alex_joni_away is now known as alex_joni
* anonimasu yawns
who here used a USC?
Jymmm is now known as MrAsshole
MrAsshole is now known as Jymmm
i am playing with emc2 again :) i cant get my config to produce half the speed (axis motion) of my emc1 setup. has anyone a hint ?
the feed overide doesnt have any effect :(
MAX_ACCELERATION = 200.0, DEFAULT_ACCELERATION = 200.0
try decreasing PERIOD
Looks like the SF servers are down..
hi Paul, did the tp changes make it into the emc2 stream or just emc1?
great... I'll build a new version and give it a spin
the CVS servers @ SF are down at the mo... They forecast 36Hrs of outage from 9AM (Pacific)
opps, that must be a fairly serious problem...
forgot to pay their inet bill?
Installing some new hardware from what they are saying on their web site.
( 2005-08-04 10:34:06 - Project CVS Service ) Starting on 2005-08-09 at 09:00 Pacific, developer CVS service will be offline for a expected period of up to 36 hours to facilitate significant hardware upgrades. Developer CVS service is moving from its current home on a 4 x 700MHz PIII, 500GB RAID5, 4GB RAM host to a new host that has roughly quadruple the I/O performance: a 2 x 2.8GHz Xeon, 1TB RAID5 striped, 8GB RAM host.
bit of a bummer, 'cos I have a small fix for the emc2 tree.
surprised the it team hasnt figured out how to bring things online in parallel.. sounds like only 1 box involved
hm I got the USC under power now
[Global Notice] Hi all. We just had what we'd have to call a glitch with the new code. It's not anything relating to end-user activity, and we're looking at it now. Thanks.
I wonder if I should take the machine for a spin.
anonimasu : No, go screw off for another week =)
does the old tp support rotary interp?
or well 4th axis machining
I cant remember
G1 x2 z4 a977.763 f200
I wonder if the visualmill post can handle it :)
paul_c: thanks :)
Jymmm: I just dropped the mail to the geckodrive support
anonimasu I'm gonna send you a bill
[20:00:45] <Jymmm> http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?sku=5325&cs=1
anonimasu being your personal assistant and all
I am going to work to fetch a box for the USC now :)
* alex_joni needs a bit help on the BDI :(
can't seem to get X working
I wont get everything finished tonight
but I'll be atleast moving the machine with it
I've got some work that I need to get done :/
anonimasu quit making excuses, get your ass in the car and get the box.... quit mucking around!
Jymmm: sure :D
* paul_c hides.
* anonimasu is moving the tft out to the mill also
yeah but I regret not buying a tuchscreen..
I might need to order another one..
I have a idea about that making buttons on a edge
corsponding to GUI choices..
like on ATM machines..
* paul_c did some work a while back with touchscreens & emc
These look really interesting, and pretty reasonable too --> http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?Cat_ID=248&offerings_id=10411&catid=69&objectgroup_id=451&sid=AFD70
well, I'll be online from the shop
tha place where my toys reside ;)
I'm logging. I don't understand 'bookmakr', anonimasu. Try /msg logger_aj help
INBOX (63275 unread messages)
robin_sz: work mail?
how would I know ...
they are unread ;)
what are the parameters to check for tool to working fine ?
depth of cut and max speed ?
anyone with deb knowledge around?
wot's a decent package for cvs?
nah.. that's 15 MB
don't want to run a CVS server
apt-cache serch cvs
just the cvs tools to check sources out
alex_joni: try search on apt-get.org
for unofficial package
no other.. it seems
i thought the BDI came with enough for you to do developemtn stuff?
I did a minimum install ;)
about 500 Megs
normal BDI install is > than my HDD ;)
probably got some crap like KDE on it
I run KDE noe
with KDE & all
but no CUPS & the like
saw a guy doing ally mig today
sounds a bit different
is the weld supposed ot have lots lof littl e holes in it like foam rubber?
those are called pores
they come from bad shielding
or bad gas
or water on the workpiece
certainly not an acceptable weld
do you think that there was the odd drip of water from the base of the torch ...
this was a "fronius" rig
leaks in the water cooled torch
probably wetting the wire
definately not good
that's very bad :)
robin_sz: any idea about the mean of value in latest colum (dx) on this page ? http://www.cmtutensili.com/prodotti.asp?FamCatalogo=112
max speed can't be, i suppose..
probably just a barcode or such ?
ident code i mean..
I would think that's the code you need to tell them when you want to buy
it seem to me a strange value
and more strange there's no notes on speed..
sigh ... I think one day, I may go to jail
robin_sz: can you check cvs on SourceForge?
robin_sz: come here
the jails look like hotel
its a prediction ...
one day I will meet a guy
btw Jacky^, I'll be in Rome sometime this month
robin_sz: what happening ?
and he will tell me how he made money sending spam email for viagra ..
robin_sz: you honestly believe that?
and then, I will, with my bare hands rip off his testicles
and make him eat them
alex_joni: this mounth ?
Jacky^: yeah, think so
but in august i will not be in naples :\
i'm near to sicily island for the summer
maybe in september i will go in naples again
right today my girlfriend is coming from there..
why does not lengthen until here?
eventually we would go to eat a good pizza ;)
<erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
alex_joni : response: pint -t 1p, then look at the router and find which port it is then follow the cat5 cable till you find it
alex... try ejecting the cdrom.... maybe you can find it with its tongue out!
LawrenceG heh, that's pretty good
alex_joni finally found the extrusion I was looking for
[22:41:47] <Jymmm> http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?sku=5325&cs=1
<mage> what should I give sister for unzipping?
<Kevyn> Um. Ten bucks?
<mage> no I mean like, WinZip?
alex_joni finally found the extrusion I was looking for
[22:46:37] <Jymmm> http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?sku=5325&cs=1
yeah.. told me that
you went byebye
* alex_joni (Iemail@example.com) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
that's my other personality
going down the drain
alex_joni_ is now known as alex_joni
too many of you, I gotta check if it's alex* hunting season
mating season first
nope wrong time of year for that
you missed your chance
Im going to be the next hitler
Im going to kill all the jews and 1 clown
<RageAgainsttheAmish> why the clown
<Th3No0b> See? no one cares about the jews
damn.. this is too funny
Jymmm: got that link?
[22:55:28] <alex_joni> http://bash.org/?top
<Sui88> 67% of girls are stupid
<V-girl> i belong with the other 13%
I like this one....
<tatclass> YOU ALL SUCK DICK
<andy\code> A common typo.
<tatclass> the keys are like right next to each other.
<studdud> what the fuck is wtf
<Eticam> I was in biology class once, and the teacher said there was sugar in sperm
<Eticam> And a girl asked why doesn't it taste sweet then
<Eticam> When she realised what she said her face became red like a spanked monkey ass
<Eticam> Then the teacher said, because you taste sweetness with the front of your tongue, not the part of your tongue back in your throat
<Eticam> The girl started crying and left class ^^
I just want her number, to console her, yeah, that's it
<frank> can you help me install GTA3?
<knightmare> first, shut down all programs you aren't using
frank has quit IRC. (Quit)
check this out:
<reo4k> just type /quit whoever, and it'll quit them from irc
* luckyb1tch has quit IRC (r`heaven)
* r3devl has quit IRC (r`heaven)
* sasopi has quit IRC (r`heaven)
* phhhfft has quit IRC (r`heaven)
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<ibaN`reo4k[ex]> that's gotta hurt
I like the burried in sand one
*** Quits: TITANIC (Excess Flood)
<NHBoy> I broke my G-string while fingering a minor :(
<NHBoy> I was trying to play Knocking on Heaven's Door.
<NHBoy> Oh well, time to buy new strings.
<NES> I download something from Napster
<NES> And the same guy I downloaded it from starts downloading it from me when I'm done
<NES> I message him and say "What are you doing? I just got that from you"
<NES> "getting my song back fucker"
This is the BEST one.....
<T-Wolf> man, my girlfriend left me for some faggot named robert
<RdAwG20> you don't live in Hope mills do you?
<T-Wolf> ya, why man?
<RdAwG20> lol, just wondering, was her namne alisson?
<T-Wolf> you mother fucker
where are these things ?
[23:15:56] <Jymmm> http://bash.org/?top
* alex_joni goes to bed
mail to geckodrive dropped now :)
Jymmm: about the replacement drive
I thought you sent that yestaerday
I suck at writing letters :)
the machine will move tomorrow afternoon
with the USC
* anonimasu started looking into making a rotary axis
I end up with more and more projects..
although CNC makes rotary axis:es kind of obsolete..
but for gear cutting ;)
heh, I see you have a precisely tuned plan going on there =)
Jymmm: What do you mean?
end up with more and more projects..
it's not bad :)
just teasing you a bit =)
Please return the drive for evaluation.
Really? Did you remind him of the conversation?
I said I had a talk with a friend of mine and were told to mention jim as reference...
Ah, too short of a message more than likely
didnt refresh his memory
I suck at writing letters.
maybe I can write something up for you later on
thanks! that would be great
I could write him a reply saying that you spoke to him about the trouble regarding shipping from here on phone a about 3 weeks ago
nah, I drop him a note. What email assress did you sent it to?