i'm using 平行移動 for "offset." does that make sense?
anyone here ?
tomorrow I would like to machine a part I finish today, anyone can give me some tips about mill, diameter, etc.. to use ?
oh, then use a router cutter
yes, router cutter..
but i'm not sure about mill diameter and type
well, is it a big or little part?
i can show the draw.. a moment
doesn't really matter for a one-off part, it will get finished eventually
is here: http://www.roboitalia.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=lastup&cat=&pos=0
big bit makes it go faster, up to the limit of the machine
do you think can I use a 3 mm ball nose for all ?
heh is that artcam?
i'm using vmware on linux :(
yeah you can use a 3mm bit for the whole thing, but it will take a while
it will go a lot faster if you can do waterlines
I suppose many hours ..
I can use 6 mm end mill, 6 mm ball nose or 3 mm ball nose..
nothing more for now ..
artcam has some neat features.. you can do a roughing cut, and then it will only cut the parts it needs to on the finish pass
yeah, I've seen
rough it out with the 6mm end mill, then finish with 3mm ball nose
if you can figure out how to do that
and the other thing... the wood can chip if you do conventional milling
so do climb milling on the roughing pass
I will try to create the toolpath now, then simulate it..
hey John.. are you around?
waiting for the 2.6.12 debs to download
about 8 mins left
I sure hope this is reversible
why shouldn't it be?
you can always apt-get remove them
and apt-get install the ones from the CD again
4 of the 5 debs are unique new ones, but one is an upgrade of an existing one... I guess it could be downgraded
but I don't think that's even necessary
which one's the upgrade?
* jmkasunich is just nervous
rtai-dev I think
called the same
you might have configure finding 2 rtais after this
it did for me (but I had my own rtai installed)
--with-rtdir= or something like that tells it which one to use, right?
but in your case the upgrade should take care of removing the old one
and installing the new one in place
gonna find out in a few mins
ain't it nice to live on the edge?
think I'll try ./configure before I boot to the new kernel, test the shmem example
oh.. btw, thx for reminding
I forgot to check in smthg
the defines in Makefile.inc.in to build the rtapi/examples modules
give me 5 mins
booting the bdi
you get 1 min 16 seconds
back in a bit
nah.. BDI doesn't boot that fast
configure isn't happy
(just started investigating)
it found multiple RT signatures, wants me to tell it which one to use
so I gotta find them
ahh.. you need to follow those steps for the kernel source too
oh, from the wiki page?
I think /usr/lib/realtime is the rtai used with 2.6.10 iirc
and /usr/realtime is what paul used for 2.6.12-magma
yeah.. you need to untar the kernel source
copy the .config
i compiled 2.6.10 with rtai-3.2, which goes into /usr/realtime
then you'll be set
fenn: I'm talking deb packages here
fenn: what rtai did you use?
uh, i wrote everything i did on the wiki page :)
03alex_joni * 10emc2/src/Makefile.inc.in: added configs for the rtapi/examples modules
* fenn grumbles
I'm just curious what flavour you chose for rtai
rtai-3.2 3.2-test1 3.2-test2 3.2-test3 or CVS ?
he said 3.2
there are quite a few 3.2
a few releases
just 3.2 i think
also .. the current 3.2 is called magma, but it'll probably get released as 3.3
I might be totally wrong here
I think magma is 3.3 already
as I don't get those people ;)
its a quite complicated tree, looking at the branch diagram
well.. I don't bother trying to understand ;)
at least not at 03:26 am
[01:12:26] <jmkasunich> http://www.rtai.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=6
alex_joni: i'm working on a japanese translation of emc.. what do I do once I've filled out the .msg file?
* jmkasunich was wrong I guess
fenn: commit it?
but you probably want to do the .po file too
and then what? does TkEmc automatically figure out which file to use based on LANG or what?
hmmmm that's gonna be a problem
at least that's how it's supposed to work
a week or two ago somebody reported a bug, and suggested that the run script should include "LANG=C" to solve it
jmkasunich: you know what's bugging me?
I did run tkemc in german
but that was probably before I added LANG=C to the run script?
a way back
yeah, what I wanted to point out is that I had no problem with awk and LANG=de
oh, so maybe the bug report was actually caused by something else?
03fenn * 10emc2/src/po/ja.msg: i hope someone can fix my busted translation :)
the .po file looks a little daunting
especially since it's hard to understand in english
heh.. you have a german one too..
alex: do I need to boot to the new kernel before I do the make oldconfig?
don't think so..
but I did
but before you boot
try the rtapi examples
rtai was upgraded
ok.. then I guess.. ;)
btw, fusion is supposedly lacking math stuff :(
jmkasunich: instead of LANG you might be able to get by setting LC_NUMERIC (non-monetary numeric formats)
jmkasunich: or, you could fix the regexp in question to match [\.,]
well I didn't even understand the original bug report, I just made the change because the poster seemed to know what he was talking about
I'd have to investigate further, but I have other bugs to squash first
I thought it had something to do with e.g. 3.000 vs 3,000
it was smthg like that
abotu the period params from the ini
let me try to find the bug report
was it in the tracker?
I think it was just a mail to the dev list
anyone know where to go get free ringtones?
anyplace but the #emc IRC channel
jmkasunich. :P :)
A-L-P-H-A: try google
A-L-P-H-A: try asking somewhere people care
where it isn't off topic
or ask google, if that fails do what cradek or jmk said
jmkasunich: how's the configure going?
about to make a minor change to configure.in
I can't reproduce the problem with my awk
cradek: same here
even with LANG=de it expects numbers to use . for decimal point
so maybe it was LC_NUMERIC as you said
and LANG=c doesn't cure it
C, not c
LANG sets all those
03cradek * 10emc2/scripts/emc.run:
allow different LANG settings while avoiding the bug reported on the list
Jul 1 2005 regarding awk's parsing of numbers from the ini
someone please try that, I can't run emc right now
hang on.. checking out already
cradek: ever come across this warning?
WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/kernel-source-126.96.36.199-magma/Module.symvers
is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
jmkasunich: you'll probably get the same warning when compilin modules
I think you might be suffering from bleeding-edge syndrome
cradek: I need to
seems this is thhe kernel/rtai paul will use on the next BDI
and emc2 fails on it
without dependencies modprobe probably won't work for some stuff
Paul is the one with bleeding edge syndrome, but we're the ones suffering ;-)
depmod runs ok
not sure if that says anything
let me just say that he and I obviously have different visions for what would be a good emc platform
cradek: what do you consider a good platform?
one that runs emc1 and emc2 and is stable and proven
the problem is that emc1 does not gracefully move to new platforms, and sooner or later even a dinosaur like me wants something new
I like Debian
for him to say that the next bdi will be kernel x and rtai y, when NO version of emc runs on those, is silly.
well emc2 should be not to hard to upgrade... all the differences should be limited to the RTAPI section
and probably even those shouldn't be there either
unless rtai people borked it up somehow
probably it's a strange sum of factors
well this specific issue may well be an RTAI borking, but in general RTAPI exists to hide RTOS and OS dependencies
well, that's annoying.
the upgrade deleted the old rtai_config from /usr/lib/realtime/bin/ (in fact it deleted /usr/lib/realtime) but it didn't delete the old symlink to it from /usr/bin/rtai-config
so ./configure is still finding the old link, but when it tries to run it, urp
meanshile the new rtaoI-config is in a completely different place, /usr/realtime/bin/rtai-config
gawd I can't type
I fscking HATE upgrades!!!
yeah.. I had the same thing (symlink :()
but I thought it's because I had my own rtai
just rm it
if you link it properly it'll find 2 rtai's again
but if you rm it, you should be set
actually finding two is what should happen
then the script prints a warning, and you re-run, telling it which one you want to use
multiple versions should be able to co-exist that way
but on 2.6 I'm not sure you can peacefully have 2 coexisting
without major hassle
03jmkasunich * 10emc2/src/ (configure configure.in): modified configure script, if it finds multiple RT signatures, it will list the ones it found to help the user investigate the situation
ok, rm'ing the symling allowed configure to run, but of course it is now configed for the old RTAI
well at least the new kernel doesn't have that thrice damned bootsplash anymore ;-)
Question... From a BLANK hdd, whats the best way to get to emc2?
the one from sherline.com/emc ?
damn... those warnings are gonna be very annoying
[02:14:45] <SWPadnos> http://www.cncgear.com/EMC/BDI/
SWP_Away : ok, that had the same MD5 as the one on sherline, thanks .
gah - DNS is all flaky on me
Ok, I'll reinstall bdi420. I want to use non-x interface as this machien just lags
have you fiddled with PERIOD in emc.ini?
SWPadnos no, not at all. just bringing up emc then trying to drag a window around the screen is a big deal in itself
do you mean booting the machine, or actually running EMC?
how does it do when emc isnt running?
(ie, is it laggy when you just run a terminal and drag it around)
w/o emc running response is pretty good. but when I had emc up and tried moving like kirc window it would lag big time.
what is your PERIOD?
make it bigger
I had installed debian sarge then apt-get emc too
hey jmkasunich, do you know of a good place to get replacement mini bayonet bulbs? (like the ones in the average 29/30mm button)
nope... never needed them
PERIOD is probably 0.000016 - change it to 0.00003
(need a few 120V ones for a phase converter rebuild)
EMC2 period is 0.000050 by default
SWPadnos ok. I'm still RTFMing, but Ray sure is wordy =) so it's taking me longer to go thru it
EMC1 is 0.000016
which are you running
OK - but BDI by default runs EMC1(.5)
you mean when you click on the pretty icons?
* jmkasunich never clicks on the pretty icons ;-)
jmkasunich I tried the apt-get emc (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bdi-emc/debian/)
but I think that has issue becasue I get errors during bootup about HAl not liking the kernel
emc1(.5) is 0.000024
/usr/local/emc/* is also emc1 by default :)
so basically I'm 'starting over' from scratch
rm \. =)
no - slashdot takes more than an rm :)
hmmm... a minor bug in the makefiles
Clean Up /home/John/emcdev/emc2head/src/libnml/nml
know hwere I can get eht java interface by chance?
/bin/sh: line 1: [: /home/John/emcdev/emc2head/lib/CVS: binary operator expected
time for me to go (my wife is calling)
wow, she has him trained well! lol
looks like its bedtime for me too
my bed is calling, it has me trained well.. wait, i don't have a bed
must be someone else's bed
then what do you call the thing you lay down on?
* alex_joni goes to sleep
05 am soon :(
yeah.. what's left of it
night, all - time for me to catch up a bit as well.
(on sleep, that is)
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do they still have the old version avaialable?
need to go go work
I'll explain it to you later :)
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one of the hotties with awesome tits, dancing in a cage at a night club?
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Well folks... I think I'm gonna call it a night. Got BDI 420 installed, so will muck with the settings and whatnot tomorrow!
isn't it like afternoon there for you?
being italy and all.
I'm off to sleep again.
:) 12:30 am here
bad wheater, clouds with no rain
how proceed the 2.6.12 emc hacking ?
it seems the problem is with rtai-magma
and the shm there
good luck ;)
I'm tryng to learn something about complex toolpath..
A-L-P-H-A: no, I just made a typo..
Jacky^, was it lunch time then? or nighttime?
12:30 am is generally considered night time
but he's in italy...
so when he said that... it really should be pm.
I think he's in italy.
yeah, he's in italy.
hello A-L-P-H-A :)
right. I missed am ..
too much sun on the head :\
my new lathe is nice :)
anonimasu: got a picture ?
yeah but not of where it is standing right now
Nobody here but us chickens
chickens huh? I better go warm up the bbq then!
tough old birds
good marinate and a pounding can take care of that =)
Well I have been getting pounded
I just installed BDI 420, but it's buggered up the dns =(
websys: hopefully not from the wifey (too much)
Nah - that's the fun stuff
"Stick and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me!" lol
Oh - whip me beat me make me feel cheap
I would, but i think you would like it WAY too much =)
Just installed 4.20 myself - didn't check DNS
do you know how to tell what resolution you're currently at in X ?
Hmm - XF86Config sets the default
I have dhcp goin on, and it can't find like google as example, but after a few tries it finally found freenode
I set it to 1600x1200, but I don't know how to tell WHERE it's at now
and for some odd reason I can't open the XF86Config-4 file
even as root
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified
xwininfo: unable to open display ':0.0'
don't run as root
su - someuser
it says 1600x1200, but this looks awefully big for that
well it wouldn't lie to you
the hell it wouldn't!
well maybe in your case....
ok, now to make it bigger. but the darn thign won't let me edit the file
even as root?
unless I'm editing the wrong file, but I doubt it. Yep even as root.
file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ?
oh wth... NOW it lets me.
ok, need to restart X... brb
you know, I'm changing resolutions with CTRL+ALT+NUM_PLUS and xwininfo -root still reports the same resoltuon
heh why dont you change it in your config
anonimasu I did, I added 1920x1440 but it's not taking it.
are you editing XF86Config
and are you starting your X with the config on the command line?
anonimasu I just installed BDI420 last night
but move the tile to XF86Config or whatever the na,me is
or start with X -????
and your config file as argument
I cant remember the command :
the machime by default install goes to a gui login
that was just what was on the install, not necessarily what I want
but kill X and edit the config file....
if you edit the right file it will work :)
I C+A+Bksp, is that enough?
ok, I'm removing all the extra resolution fromt he config file, lets see if that makes a difference
lol... damn thing just let me w/o typing my password
now that's a weak password
no shit huh
Jymmm: fight with the x server ? :D
ok, this is weird, I must be editing the wrong sfile as I rebooted the box and it's still at 1600x1200 instead of 1920x1440
and even when I do change to a smaller resolution, why is it scrolling?
Jymmm: sometimes I find a solution (if you have knoppix live cd) booting with Knoppix live that have advanced HW detect features, then copy the conf file auto-generated /etc/X11/XF86config-4 in a floppy then override the old one in your distro
make even a backup copy of the file
why dont you just ediut your XF86config
you have one right?
or remove all config files and run XF86Config
anonimasu : I have been editing /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and I even restarted the machien, but it's not acceptign the changes or reading them
As a test, I only have "1024x768 "640x480" in the config file now. It it restarts at 1600x1200 something else is wrong.
Jymmm: maybe the x server is using XF86Config ! not XF86Config-4
Jacky^ where whould that be located at?
check it ..
Jymmm: i'm not sure about location, there are many files like xinit and many other (I believe)
ok it started at 1024x768
if the X server is using debconf the file should be XF86Config-4, otherwise not
now, how do you prevent it from scrolling at lower resolutions
Jacky^: i think you mean x client, not server
robin_sz: no, uasually the installation ask for use debconf or not to manage X server
no ... you have it the wrong way round
XF86Config configures the x client
mmmhh.. not sure
Jymmm: tried to comment # the line 800x600 in the conf file ?
no, but I just removed all the resolutions except 1920x1440
should be the same thing, I suppose
Jymmm: same place
You know what, I left ONLY 1900x1440 and it STILL started at 1600x1200
You are doing something wrong.
Jymmm: can you paste the conf file on nopaste ?
comment out something that will break your X..
I'm corius :)
if X will start then it's not the file you are using
Well, during the install, it did ask me the max res I wanted, the highest available was 1600x1200
the issue is if you are editing the right file first of all
the X log says what config file it's using
% grep Using /var/log/XFree86.0.log
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
XF86config is the usual one
whne I change /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to "1024x768" "640x480" and did C+A+BKSP it restated in 1024x768
then look at the log to see what the problem is with 1920
whatever it is
Jacky^: for future reference, in X, the programs (auch as Netscape, Xchat or whatever) are the servers, the X client is the thing that fills the screen and provides awindow manager etc
or thats the way i understand it anyway .. its exactly the opposite of what you expect
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Hmmm? I thought the Xsever was X and the xclients were things like xterm etc
12:30 am is generally considered night timehjkl;'
According the the O'Reilly books xterm, xcalc etc are x clients
so X is the X server
websys: it maybe depend on theside we look
not according to the books I have on X which go back to 1988
( I've been working in X since 1982 )
i'm waiting for update my Sid distro..
I seen they released Xorg
* anonimasu is running xorg
I'm not sure to run it yet ..
also, can't understand why the upgrade want remove gaim
anonimasu: mmm.. I think it's not so stable yet
Haven't seen any real difference running Xorg vs. XFree
I also use a simply window manager like evilwm, no icons, no bars..
Jacky^: I am afraid you seem to have no idea about it :)
it's as stable as xfree..
anonimasu: I will try it..
as far as I've experienced..
A friend of mine that tried it on Kubuntu don't talk very well..
but he's using a laptop
anon - have you seen any difference between the different X servers?
* anonimasu is too
not really, I think it's a bit faster then xfree. but it might be my imagination
ok - just thought I was missing something
this can be tested with some benchmark app, I think..
yeah.. but I dont bother too much
anonimasu: which video card are U using ?
radeon 9800 256mb mobile..
cool :) great card
it's messy with linux though
3D accelleration support work, right ?
I havent found out why my dualhead is being strange yet
it does :)
I'm also using ati radeon 9600 256 mb
on wk I mean ..
for me work great, I'm using that with linux + vmware+win2k and 3D cad.. rocks !
Jymmm: solved ?
cannot understand where to find the parameters like advance speed of a tool if they don't write it in the catalogue of the products :\
may I invent it ?
or maybe going for experiment ..
seem to me like a closed proprietary software information ghghghg...
any good producer will specify it
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and just mill away
but I think it's not a good idea for the life of the tool :(
do you really have much choice if there's no specification.
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follow that a bit then increase your feed until it sounds right
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very interesting :D
the catalogue of my tools show only the price :\
are italian products
it seem to me not so good..
no idea :/
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Jacky^: what does the pdf on the endmill page say
what the utility to reconfig X - XFConfig?
where is it?
updatedb ; whereis XF86Config
brb, going to the kiosk
ok, I thought that might give me a list of video cards, but it doesn't
after you've set up your mouse and keyb
I did, but it only gives me a generic list... vga, svage, etc
there is more cards that will show also..
anonimasu: the pdf show the same parameter of the webpage
Jymmm: you could also try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 for reconfigure with a dialog window
should be simple
that brings up a different dialog that what I saw during the install.
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I just want to chang ethe video card, but need to see a list of them. what anonimasu, you , and someone else suggested doesn't list them all.
does not appear the list running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ?
ATI Mach64 is what I'm looking for. It should up during the BDI install, but not in any of the x config utilities
strange, for me first window opened is a list of the video drivers
look for ATI Mach64
first 3 drivers are: apm, ark, ati
there's no Ati Mach64
I think you need the Ati package for them
Yep, that's the problem, as there really is one, it showed up during the BDI install.
maybe it's called mach64
or, just try ati
cradek: it seem doesn't exist on default video card list
infact, ati should work
without 3D accelleration, but should work fine
if mach64 has 3D acc.
screw it, it's taking too much time just to get 1920x1440
ok, any suggestions why BDI isn't seeing my dns via dhcp?
when I has installed debian sarge there was no issues.
try editing /etc/resolv.conf
but maybe the next time dhcp will overwrite it..
how can I see what it's currently using for dns?
dhcp that is
dhcp wrties to that?
resolv.conf is 0 bytes
no lines inside ?
it's zero byte file
are U using ethernet card ?
yep, and it has an ip address, just no dns
is up ?
try to restart:
I've rebooted the machien many times, something is misconfigured during install
here are the first lines of my /etc/network/interfaces
actually one if you just want to define the nameserver
I want it to grab the dns servers via dhcp
right now, I just want to see what it thinks the dns servers are
how can I do that?
Jymmm: I suspect some dhcp package is missing or not configured as a well
ans type server
Jacky^ I think so too
Jymmm: try to reconfigure dhcp-dns :# dpkg-reconfigure dhcp-dns
sorry.. maybe is not for client side :\
should be dhcp-client
try to dpkg-reconfigure these packages
or look at /etc/dchp3 for the cfg and scripts
could someone past theri conf file?
you mean resolv.conf?
the one I have is mostly commented out
I'll send you the uncommented lines
request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
hey Phydbleep :)
request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers, domain-name, domai
n-name-servers, host-name, netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;
did you paste twice? if not, I have exactly that.
#prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;
request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
#require subnet-mask, domain-name-servers;
yes - tried to get it on one line
then I guess the problem lies elsewhere
you could try re-running the dhclient-script
nslookup server still points to 127.0.0.1
PhydBleep_ is now known as Phydbleep
websys are you running dhcp?
ummm on some boxes
at least the box you gave the listing from?
Jymmm: i'm running dhcp
Jymmm: what are you using as dhcp server ? ethernet modem ?
which works fine on all the other machiens,
even debian sarge and woody
the only thing is that won't write the file resolv.conf ?
I don't think it's even getting an address
it's getting an ip, I'm shelled into ti
just can't resolv anything
have rou reconfigured the 2 pakages dhcp and dhcp-client ?
or it does sometimes but VERY slowly
so ifconfig gives you and address besides 127.0.0.1
websys : I'm shelled into the box right now
Jymmm: ifconfig eth0 what says ?
localhost:/etc/network# ifconfig eth0
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:D0:B7:B4:F0:BE
inet addr:10.0.0.3 Bcast:10.0.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::2d0:b7ff:feb4:f0be/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:3512 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:3680 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
RX bytes:588685 (574.8 KiB) TX bytes:362852 (354.3 KiB)
well it's up
should show your gateway
for me is 192.168.1.1
you should have 10.0.0.1 I suppose..
localhost:/etc/network# ping 188.8.131.52
PING 184.108.40.206 (220.127.116.11) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 18.104.22.168: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=13.9 ms
64 bytes from 22.214.171.124: icmp_seq=2 ttl=55 time=13.8 ms
64 bytes from 126.96.36.199: icmp_seq=3 ttl=55 time=12.9 ms
--- 188.8.131.52 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2001ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 12.967/13.584/13.956/0.439 ms
that's yahoo.com btw
well you could just hard code a dns server if you just want to get it working
well, it worl with numeric address
I think resolv.conf is being writed by dchp-client..
Couldn't stat source package list http://webersys.com
I'm updating it this very minute
if the package is installed an configured should work
websys oh, I was just trying to install links
should be there in a few minutes
Temporary failure in name resolution
Jymmm - want to just plug in my nameserver temporily to see if it resolves?
What I'm REALLY frustrated about is debian sarge works fine. Then if I follow the wiki to apt-get emc there is a problem with HAL and the kernel.
websys my dns works fine, just they change them sometimes and I don't want to go thru this later on doewn the road.
screwit , how can I add them manually (mine that is) ?
in the file /etc/resolv.conf, add the line(s):
you can have as many as you want
well, INSTANT response since I added them to resolv.conf
lets hope that a reboot doesn't have dhcp erase the entries
and why apt-get only has you as source is beyond me.
ty websys , Jacky^
I'll get the rest figured out later on.
webersys id the only thing in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
JymmmEMC: ok :)
localhost:/etc# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# The main repository for Debian packages.
# Synergy updates.
# At some point, a repository will have to be created
# for BDI related packages. Meanwhile, a dummy line..
## deb http://emc.repository/debian
websys gotta love it
thats the WHOLE file btw
as long as you have the debian site, you should be able to get updates
yeah. I'm just used to having 'more then one' is all.
and I'm surprised to see ONLY one entry.
That's all that paul put in there
JymmmEMC: adding deb http://security.debian.org/
testing/updates main should be a good idea, to get security update
but better ask to paul..
if paul was ever around
oh great.... now that I've spent all this time on video and dns, now emc doens't start up.
Jymm - still there?
Would you please do an apt-get update to see if it complains about my site?
localhost:/home/jim# apt-get update
testing/main Packages [3557kB]
./ Packages [225B]
testing/main Release [81B]
Fetched 3557kB in 30s (118kB/s)
Reading Package Lists... Done
Thanks - guss it's all there now
how do I get the path to the cmd of an icon?
? right-click and get properties?
doens't show it for something in a menu... /EMC/generic
right click on the start button and use menu editor?
I dragged the icon to the desktop
the desktop is stored in files in our home directory
If I click the generic icon, it tries to start then dies. If I start it from a Konsole it starts
you can view those files
are you running Konsole as root?
the icon doesn't go to su
You're just a normal user
( from the icon )
so that just defeats the purpose
of having an icon
You can have the icon run the app as a differt user ( i.e. root )
screw it, I'm gonna login as root instead.
it seem to me that 3D roughing with 6 mm mill end don't make difference on a job :\
so .. one of my suppliers, who make cnc controls for plasma .. just sent me an email
evening robin_sz :-)
announcing their new email addresses
CC'd to everyone in there db
people are so *stoopid* :)
anyway ... its the weekend now ...
shooting competition tomorow
is a way as another to attract attention
yeah, local competition
well, if I win, yes, its nice
I don't know how to say.. we say " In bocca al lupo" in this case
something like 'good luck', but isn't
i give up
I'm in contious mode, hold down a jog key, and then it goes, pauses,goes, pauses, etc.
Jymmm: solved ? work ?
no and no
great... now it's all locked up
bad day :(
is BDI 420 the same as BDI live?
I mean, built fromt he same thing?
I installed it, I believe are the same thing
you could check with uname --all
I also used live cd, work great for me
Jymmm: wich cpu have the pc where you're installing ?
not amd ?
if I remember well I read some issue about Amd cpu, somewhere..
no problem, then
* robin_sz suspects its a period problem
how fast is the machine?
robin_sz: eureka !
~400MHz running keystick right now
um, anyoen know how to get rid of the background graphic on teh console? tuc swatting a msn butterfuly?
Jymmm: I think you can set background transparence on console to see the wallpaper on desktop
should be nice
I DONT want to see it.
oh hi robin_sz
just having a rough time here
I think I need to walk away for a bit.. bbl
then remove desktop wallpaper click DX
ugh .. they still put silly backgroubnd pics on?
Jymmm: check the period variable as robin_sz said
try a minor value
emc should work
tomorrow here begin an exposure market amateur radios operator, computer, surplus, etc..
saturday and sunday, 2 days :D
I will buy some old board, for components and sone lcd display :P