* alex_joni is bored
* anonimasu is too
I still havent gotten this crap working
I would rather shove a unix manual down my throat, then mess with this.
he's the crapmaster
I am afraid this kind of crap is too crappy
got it to work now
I have no idea how I broke it though
anonimasu: what?!? i'm a master att crap applications
nothing is to crappy ;D
what's wrong with this crap: hej:=(mem1.GetDataPtr())$^sak;
it looks weird, thats whats wrong
implement it in FORTRAN instead
I dont know fortan?
then use lisp ;)
what's $^sak ?
I dont lisp..
anonimasu: haskell then...
it'a a pointer to sak(thing)
err it's a typecasting to sak ;)
anonimasu: ah, maybe it should be pryl
yeah that might help
anonimasu: or grej
anonimasu: what language is that?
somehting you program plc's with
it's called lasal
good language very c-ish
but I dont get why this is fscking with me
ALLOCATE THE MEMORY YOU DAMN LITTLE BOX!
nope. it simply does not allocate memory
use brk(2) instead ;)
never heard about it
nah, "brk, sbrk - change data segment size" -- brk(2) Linux Programmer's Manual
oh, I am not getting a pointer to any memory space..
it seems like it's a OS bug.
works with another plc with a older os version
ValarQ: my code works perfectly..
I was in contact with the support people over here..
they didnt know anything..
going to contact the manufacturer instead
bbl going to go to customer now
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heh... hang on 2 mins
have a brand new video of my toy ;)
[15:09:43] <alex_joni> http://dsplabs.utt.ro/~juve/emc/mytoy/
I want to see it!
cradek: especially for you ;)
lemme know what you think :D
does it work?
the mpg I mean...
does it really sound like that?
not that loud
the cam is not that ok ;)
it's great for pictures
but sux at video
that's very neat
can it move in Z?
but it behaves better in Z=0
because it has almost no weight
so if I move Z-
I think the sound is wrong. It sounds like a crazy high-pitched noise that doesn't change with the motion
it will get kinda out of shape
turn the sound off
it sounds pretty sweet actually
lemme try another shot
alex_joni: what is that ?
AF_pre: af format: 2 bps, 2 ch, 44100 hz, little endian signed int
AF_pre: 44100Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian)
AO: [oss] 44100Hz 2ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian) (2 bps)
yeah it sounds wrong... my player must be incompatible
no sound too for me
probably a buggy encoding codec on the cam
but it moves very nicely ;)
I'm pretty happy with how it moves
yes, it looks great, especially the arcs
alex_joni: magnetism experiment '
didn't mess with accel/feedrates a lot yet
uploaded another video
sound still sux
you should check in your kins changes (maybe on a branch?) so the rest of us can understand how to do it
I could.. but is there anyone interested in it?
I have a robotic arm that I've considered doing
heh.. sure then
it would be great if it could be controlled in X,Y with gcode
there are still a few things that still suck with kins
I filed some bugreports on that
and fixed some myself
homing or something
and jogging doesn't work
because it's teleop jogging
but MDI works great ;)
anyways.. doing the kins is VERY easy
Jacky^: uploaded some pictures too
how do you express the limits since they do not form a cube?
alex_joni: very nice
cradek: you have joint limits
which get checked before the kins
or after the inversekins
depending on the dataflow direction
I put some more pics there
you can see my EMC 'puter ;)
motherboard on an isa card?
it's a SBC
that's all to it ;)
got an HDD hooked up.. but I could use a CF card too
ISA is for expansions
* alex_joni goes home
what is it?
oh he left.
love firefox with plugings... downTHEMall plugin. :d
tried adblock ?
I've got a SHORT adblock list. :D
yeah, ad*ads* *babber..
ops banner* :)
well, not banner
i like to use banner* banners* and also doubleclick*
pages are 90 % clean :)
doubleclick can't be blocked for me... ebay usest them in their emails.
maybe you can manually specify the website's want allow
but I'm not sure..
in a soon to come version...
I heard something about a whitelist some time ago, but can't remember :\
<-- that made me laugh.
I liked that one too
I can't think of anything good to go make to eat. or even good to buy to eat.
A-L-P-H-A: pizza and beer :P
i'm also going out for a little of shopping :P
come to me this evening for dinner :D
I have beer.
could walk over to the pizzeria.
can't you phone on pizzeria ?
but, yeah I could call.
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win2k on qemu-linux won't install SP4
I tried 12 times
error a the end of installation
A-L-P-H-A: ready for pizza party ? :P
I already had 1/3rd of a pizza already
i buyed some beer budweiser in offer 3 x 1,80 E.
i'm waiting it become cold :))
for like 330ml??
3 of 33 cl anyone
oh. 3 for �1.8
0.99L for �1.8... hmm.
too much ?
for 3 beers for $2.66CDN. That's not bad.
I know, but here is imported beer
get some German beer.
belgium beer. yumm.
in the summer we drink more beer
also price go up
in the other time switch to good wine :P
alex_joni: pizza and beer :D
alex_joni: not that much
Jacky^: just got home from pizza ;)
32 � hot :\
alex_joni: thanks for sharing those videos
hope you like those
yes, and I hope you do check in your code
having you as one that wants it ;) surely
was not sure that anybody would want that
what exactly do you want to do?
you said smthg about a robot
yes, it is a robotic arm
how many dof's ?
I think 6 all together
including the gripper open/close
hmm.. sounds like you would profit from the puma kins
wrist rotate and bend, elbow bend, shoulder bend and rotate around the base
5 dof's then
and the gripper
emc1 has some puma kins
you can just copy them over to emc2
and link them in
the interface to the kins is pretty much unchanged
well. time to drink beer :P later Guys
actually completely unchanged
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good to kmow
yeah.. you basicly need 2 functions
kinematicsInvers & kinematicsForward
and there are some setup functions
maybe if you start working on your robot (and thus having 2 kins users) I'll do some work for the config to the kins
it should be in the ini .. (for now I defined my defaults in the sources)
* alex_joni is still looking for some groupware sw
it's a generic name for a group of applications
like contacts / task / addresses
managment for such things
but it should enable a group of people to access the data
guess I don't use that kind of application
it's basicly a database..
cradek: it's ok for small businesses
or even large :)
I'd start with a good email client and a web-based calendar
yeah.. but I need to share the databetween clients
maybe what you want is CRM
oh.. forgot to mention.. doze clients
smthg like that
I did find www.open-xchange.org
smthg like what I need
didn't get the chance to try it out
hmmm.. sounds opensource
if you have to support windows users, give them firefox and stick with web-based stuff
it allows you to not get stuck in the microsoft trap
if you buy MS apps you're screwed if you use linux, and you're stuck with MS forever.
at my company we're half MS half linux
things like open office will only get better - we may not be stuck with MS forever.
I did LOVE gimpshop
hmm.. seems nice
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badger badger badger
any luck with your crm quest?
still using xrms
and evaluating SugarCRM
right.. same here
cradek pointed it out to me
[19:54:07] <robin_sz> http://xrms.sourceforge.net/demo.php
sugar is nice, but quite complex
xrms is simpler, but has code more crazy tham NML
you can hear it barking as you download it
the SQL in there is as mad as I've seen
how about http://www.opencrx.org/
hmmm opencrx looks nice too
is that the one that needs a j2ee compliant webswerver?
probably .. it's written in java
well, thats that fucked then ... next!
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like where are you going to get a j2ee compliant server huh?
which includes JBoss, but that's irrelevent if you hate Java
no, I like java
do they give it away free?
wel I never
it's linked from the openCRX site
argh, no ...
Ala Apache Tomcat
the front page is too complex to understand
[20:06:48] <Jymmm> http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/
yes and wtf is that exactly?
do I need that and jboss?
I cant read the webpage
I dont understand the language
the words are enlish
but it makes no sense to me ..
what ? :D
so Jboss ... its like a complete OS?
[20:08:45] <alex_joni> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=22866&package_id=16942&release_id=312621
or does it run on linux?
do I need a webserver like apache as well?
do I need tomcat as well?
I have no idea what "J2EE-compliant AppServer" means, but I followed the link to JBoss, and it's free :)
I followed that link when I visited opencrx moths ago
try apt-get install jboss, and see what happens
and after several hours of following links to ever more complex buzzwords, I still didnt undestand anything more
E: Couldn't find package jboss
and do I need Java beans?
and should I water them?
well - you grind them, then run water *through* them ...
so .. like I said, opencrx is effectively dead in the water for me
apt-get install pkg-jboss
E: Couldn't find package pkg-jboss
oh well - if you want an easily installed platform, you'll have to buy it
if you want it free, then you'll have to learn something
time <-> money - your choice
I'd love to be able to run Zope
Jymmm: apt-get install zope
now that does work
robin_sz : My host does support it.
your waht doesnt supprot it?
it does support tomcat, but nfc
apt-get install good-host --force
Jymmm: zope is great
I have a great host!
apt-get install better-host --force
Jymmm: then just su to root, and type apt-get install zope
but unless I get a dedicated server Zope aint gonna happen.
robin_sz : Host, as in virtual host, as in colo facility, get it now?
you dont have your own server?
how .. awful.
I dont have my own server ...
robin_sz almost as bad as troubleshooting uncertified cable pullers work for two hours huh?
look , you made yourself look silly last time, just drop it
We cant all afford to have nor maintain dedicated servers
heh, I have an an entire rack full :)
this could be a conversation between parasites
"How's your host?"
[20:22:26] <Jymmm> http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=25337
doesnt really make it an clearer for me ...
is Jboss like, say, debian?
or is it something you install on top of an OS?
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jboss and toncat are the webservers
jboss adds ejb
robin_sz: seen my machine work?
is it something you install on top of an OS?
alex_joni: show me?
alex_joni wtf, is that yours?
Jymmm: should be
I built it ;)
how big is the video (WxH)?
ah, it was difficult to tell the washer is suspended above the base
Yeah, I didn't notice the shadow
when I looked at the pic, I finally saw it
[20:32:58] <Jymmm> http://dsplabs.utt.ro/~juve/emc/mytoy/Resize%20of%20HPIM4955.JPG
alex_joni whats it for?
or did you see that spray paint one too
actually it's smthg like a proof of concept
I'm thinking about building a big one
for plasma cutting
smthg like 10x10m
just using cables?
is a lot cheaper than rack & pinion
very cool! will put the damn overpriced beearing mfg's out of business =)
alex_joni are you thinking just as you have it, or adding some gearbox to each one?
are you familiar with MIG welding?
oh wait, you dont care about Z axis... so just feed the wire at current position
I do care about Z too
for torch height control
[20:38:05] <alex_joni> http://www.welding.com.au/images/2rd_controls.jpg
that's a MIG wire drive unit
smthg like that I wanna use on the cables
the motors are string enough to support all the weight?
w/o a gearbox?
about 200 W
they do have a gear built in
I drove one of those with a gecko
Very cool alex_joni!
emc2 works great ;)
how much programming did you have todo to get the 3 motors to work like that?
not very much ;)
it's all math
once figured out.. it's about 40-50 lines of code
of what, g or c code?
and lots of trig!
i'll get excited when you figure out how to do Z
Z works too
but it's not that spectacular as I don't have too much weight
and the cables get soft if I go Z-
which is a bad thing ;)
fenn : Start getting excited! We want to see the excitment now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
but it does work
fenn I said excited bitch, but become an AOL'er
going to bed
G'Night alex_joni - nice toy
Now for you fenn...
go get your video camera and show us the excitment you have!!!
uh, err, no.
fenn : Make every cheerleader proud of you!!!
short skirt NOT required!
just 15� hours of work
togo or completed?
* Jymmm hands anonimasu a beer or 10
10 would indeed be nice
I need to travel to another customer tomorrow
then I need to go to a huydralic manufacturer/supplier to diagnose somevalves that does not work..
although that can wait until next week
how's thing going for you?
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to the skies!
robin_sz: : how are thing going?
gotten any work done on the sheet changer?
need to see how this next month goes ...
whehter I stay in UK and play lasers, or go to .ch and play software
hm, go to .ch and play with software to pay for your lsers ;)
you can always pile money :D
its an either-or decision I suspect
housing in .ch is fscking expensive
extra cash will be limited
thus, finding several thousand pounds a month for a shed to store huge lasers, is niot going to happen
didnt you have work for your laser in .uk
yeah, sort of
but not enough yet
a couple of BIG contracts bubbling under though
but not landed yet
one will fill an entire shift, every day
the part is 800mm dia, 120 holes
dimensional error of 0.006" max
we nearly got the first sample through quality today
failed on one dimension being 0.001" over limit
and another being 0.0004" over
1 thou ...
on a big lasered part ...
still, we'll get there
can you use any tricks to get there?
sure ... already do :)
would it be hard to compensate for material growth?
already do that
ah should be easy then :)
yeah right :)
holding .006" on a 30" circle?
that starts off at 20 deg C
and is about 100 deg C by the time the final cut ...
can you cool the material?
we run with 4 sets of cutting tables onthat part
differetn kerf comp
the kerf is contant,
but we over compensate to make it come out right
we set it up on HR4 plate ...
on the real stuff, CR4, it comes out oval
stresses in cold rolled metal
cold rolled shit..
so, we pre-cut a balnk and then re-cut the piece from it
cant you cut a test in real stuff?
LOX baby, LOX =)
what size lens are you using?
hi Jymmm :D
Day changed to 01 lug 2005 !
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you will live a long and boring life
your kids will hate you because they have been told to by the media
you will grow old and bitter and die
fenn: i will made a signature for 80 :P
make a signature for 80?
understand what I mean ?
I would put the company
now damnit, now! lol
I would make a contract for living 80 years..
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