dmess back to live?
dmess or memorex?
naw the screwy 4.2 still....
with essence of 2.18
dmess what do you mean?
im running the 4.2 front end from the 2.18 kernel..
so some stuff doesn't work...
anyone know if i can get a 4.2 boot disk out of this box as it sits now..
paul_c would know. he's the guru.
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lilo says my hda2 is not marked as active...
Warning: Partition 2 on /dev/hda is not marked Active.
Warning: Unable to determine video adapter in use in the present system.
Warning: Video adapter does not support VESA BIOS extensions needed for
display of 256 colors. Boot loader will fall back to TEXT only operation.
Fatal: No images have been defined.
linux shouldn't need a partition marked as active to boot it
that's a winbloze deal
i keep hear alot of should.. and shouldn'ts...
well that's how it's supposed to work
this is running lilo from a term
you obviously have some very deeply seated issues with your setup
and my life... ; )===~~~~~
nothing getting my HP back wont fix...
personally i can't stand HP
other than their cdrw drives... i like their hardware..
they're a marketspeak company today
as in how??
as in they're only in it for the $ and that's how they havebeen for quite some time now
HP used to be a cool company
but like many they lost their way
you hear about the lawsuits they've leveled against ink cartdirge remanufacturers?
what total scumbags!
thats yankee lawyerism for ya
hmm we dont get along... i'll sue ya..
no more like hey you're making what i lay claims to
that's my scam you're trying to horn in on!
get your own scam..
personally i think ink cart remanufacturing is an excellent scam
it's a scam on top of a scam
because ink carts is a huge scam!
and a lucrative one at that...flea market guy refills ANYTHING...
you think the government would let normal folks properly clean a print head?
if those that make the laws would allow us, im sure each of us would have gallon tanks of ink hooked to our printers :)
I use lasers
but then again, if our government really had our best wishes at heart, we wouldnt need printers, in this metric paperless society
I need to print stuff
can't glue a monitor to a piece of wood before i scrollsaw it
or very well iron a monitor onto copper clad board andd throw it into a vat of acid
you plot 1:1 and glue her down.. ;)
so do I, and at one point in time all of us will be faced with the question, new printer cartdriges, or a new printer. well after all they are the same price these days, and maybe or maybe not the new printer will come with cartdgriges
ya don't wanna throw your monitor into this! http://188.8.131.52:10000/Electronics/Projects/Overdrive/MakeOverdrive/etch2.jpg
gezr them carts that come with new printers are half fills
well im going for a reboot to see if lilo did goto MBR
thx ; )==~~~
dmess well what's the prognosis?
same shite...smells wors..
I hear that
yeah there's something basically going wrong for you over there I think
it shouldn't be this out of whack
well we know kde 3.2 works on kernal 2.1.8
story of my life man...
i have no grub.conf
that could be affecting you
not there dude...
install --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /grub/stage1 d (hd0) /grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,0)/grub/menu.lst
that's the whole thing
yeah you probbaly don't need the stage2 crap
letme look for menu.lst too
you can probably really simplify that install line
* History:: From maggot to house fly
If no configuration file is present,
GRUB drops to the command-line.
yes... says GRUB>
yup would suggest that as you said you have no configuration file
dmess this "feature" maybe killing your system off too "Detect all installed RAM GRUB can generally find all the installed RAM on a PC-compatible machine. It uses an advanced BIOS query technique for finding all memory regions."
dmess in your BIOS do you have somehting like a memory hole defined?
not on purpose...
yeah I've read that Linux doesn't like memory defined for anything other than well system usage
like I'm not so sure how safe shadow BIOS is and whatnot
i'll have to look into it..
really I don't think modern systems need to shadow the BIOS anymore
and the define memory hole I don't know what that's for
maybe for network PROM or something?
I donno but I've heard bad things about it andLinux too
that shouldn't be my issue
yeah really scour through your BIOS though make sure nothing odd is set
Windows seems to work around a lot of that stuff way better than Linux can
heck i don't even say it's a PNP OS I don't htink
tho not so sure what the present state of affairs is with that today
yeah i pick NON PNP OS
the pnp state for winz is decent if you buy MS supported hardware..
I just think Linux probes things differently
feedin the big MS machine
there's a lot of really buggy BIOSes out there or so I hear
so I try to play it as safely as I can
i seem to recall seeing a probe HDD bios error at some point
yeah being as you're having such a boot issue it leads me to believe the BIOS could be involved somehow
does the system have a CD-ROM drive?
what if i tap the drive ever so slightly with the truck...?? yes cdrom
one thing I have heard of again not so sure of it's status today is setting those on CS or cable select isn't good
I've heard they cna stop a boot
it should be on either master or slave whatever it really is
again that's a specific problem though that doesn't always affect everyone
never use it... master on ide1= HDD master ide2=cdrom
but i never leave CD drives on CS
just something to look out for
it's very common for systems to be built and the drives configured CS
not in my house.. ; )
yeah next boot really scour through your BIOS
something has to be hanging it up
no control over hdd bios though...
hey next time you're at the grub promt here's something to try
try tab completion with it so it gives you lists
for example, you only need to type `root (', followed by a <TAB>, and GRUB will display the list of drives, partitions, or file names,
information is always king
wel im off to beddy bye
g'nite all ; )
good morning to anyone awake.
good morning alpha
nevyn_ is now known as nevyn
* anonimasu yawns
hey wondering if there is a torrent
* pronobozo pokes a few random people.
* paul_c prods back..
hi. jsut wondering if ther eis a BDI live torrent anywhere?
nope. No torrents available for any of the ISO images.
my friend has been trying to get the iso.. but his internet craps out frequently. He's building a homemade cnc..
cnc's are wicked..
you guys know any good pages for building your own?
Where are you located ?
* paul_c kicks A-L-P-H-A
A-L-P-H-A is also from Toronto (as I recall).
Information on the web is not how-to recipes
my friend foudn a fast server... getting 400KB a second.. hopefully he can get it before his internet craps.
yeah I haven't really foudn and how to pages that are detailed.. just people giving ideas/help here and there..
The best way to learn about DIY CNC is to listen to the people that have done it..
and avoid the BS merchants that only talk about doing it..
* anonimasu nods
[11:24:27] <paul_c> http://www.cnc-workshop.com/
might be worth your while..
yeah well it's my friedn that's building it.. he has a pretty good grasp of what he has to do and how to do it. I jsut wnat to be part of the FUN projects after it's made.
I think this is the same dril as my friends http://www.pathcom.com/~vhchan/cnc/cnc.html
A fairly simple design... Not very accurate, but a cheap intro..
* anonimasu is messing with PID control for some huydralice
it's driving me mad.
hm, time to head to the customer to try it out
sounds like alanis morisette
what's up paul?
just finished updating my deb mirror...
Only taken three days !
too much development I'd say
nah - Hasn't been updated for four months.
gotta rsync it from cron
Is there a CD cover image for the BDI?
A CD label, but no sleeve
[15:49:30] <paul_c> http://www.rainnea.com/chips.htm
What does the NML abbreviaton mean?
Neutral Messaging Language
sorry - "Neutral Message Language"
are ALL the BDI's allergic to the K6 processor???
just a first impression of the bdi page...
any idea how to make a 4.2 rescue floppy??
if you've booted a 2.18 kenal on a 4.2 instal??
im thinkin a tap with the truck soon...
what is 4.2 anyway? Knoppix based?
is this one of the "live" distros?
well, what does debian.org say about making a rescue floppy?
not live...its a grub thing
debian / knoppix / morphix based
ohh... is it all the same SWP
greenhorn linux here..
well figure out if its debian/knoppix/morphix based
then go along to debian.org/knoppix.org/morphix.org and read their rescue floppy notes
you'll have to read tyhe bit about replacing the kernel on the rescue floppy
you have to mount the bin image on the loopback devide first
can you boot the CD at all?
scratch that - I'm now remembering the kernel ersions - they're compiled for 586
the thing you must have thoughis the TSC option, and I don't know if the k6 has that
oh wow ...
I just saw the /topic
General discussion and help the rest of the week.
do not feed the troll
we're supposed to be helpfull?
or at least general
I can do general
sergeant - arrest that man
ooh .. I feel all ...
my systems GENERALLY Fubar'd.... im convinced... i'll pass it off to the boy for winblowz and run2.18 on the 266-mmx
how ddoes linux deal with over-clocking???
Linux doesn't really care, but the machine might
There can be problems with some peripherals as well (like IDE controllers that expect 33MHz clocks)
i can leave the ide's @ 33 and hoop the cpu clock up...
depends on the chipset
Dmess: do you plan to run a cnc machine with this?
mine seems to support it.. no cnc on this CRAP.. ; )
just a glorified etcha a sketch... ; )
i know how to scale up...
266 .. bit slow
i find a 450 mhz k6 struggles a bit
makin' a 2 axis etch-a-sketch for a sience fair project....
266 should be fine if you don't run kde or gnome or other crap
so set up a minimalist system...??
yeah I think one of the BDIs uses icewm
I guess I don't know which one
i got a bunch of 'em... ; )
mount and locate...
Dmess: not trying to be silly, but if its just a 2 axis etch-a-sketch, you should try Mach2 and a passing windows box ... its crap, but it works straight out of the tin, you would have been making sketches by now ...
just avoid connecting it to real machinery :)
I ended up not using emc for my etch-a-sketch
[19:02:12] <jepler_> http://axis.unpy.net/index.cgi/etchcnc
Dmess: ^^^ dunno if you've seen mine
y'see Dmess has been on the "installing EMC" task for around a week now ...
after a week, its time to "try someting else" ... emc clearly doesn;t like him .. heh ;0)
mind you, since its a science fair project .. i guess hes learning a lot about linux
I just hope the topic of the project doesn't change to "Linux: Why it sucks and I can't install it"
Anyone know a source/url for macro viruses by chance?
where can i find any docs about nml? is there any specification of it?
funny - I was going to say that, but thought better of it :)
paul_c "But, but, but, microsoft says Windows is an OS, and not a virus!" =)
here, too: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2228&item=6954743327&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
ooh, I'm all excited about the G200X again now ...
its just so nice to have the EMC interp and some nice fast pulses
without all that 'orrible fungus that goes with EMC usually
I can actually understand the flow of control in this thing ;)
* anonimasu yawns
finally back from work :)
anyone have ammo... the wife used all my ammunition...can you believe that
state calibre, bullet weight, expanding or non-expanding.
pls ship home made small scale nuclear devices ONLY...
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