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trying again... dos fdisk.. format...sys..reboot.. c: reboot BDI 4.18 install running
i guess im more BRAIN DEAD than most
minimess: a few years ago
minimess: I've heard people say.. "I googled foo on msn search"
minimess is Dmess on another floor
i found a box a parts today and my son put together a pI-100 outta them..
Dmess I left a bar once and found a P100 on the curb
you dont frequent the establishments i do...
the best PC I ever found I grabbed out of the mud in the metal pile at the dumps here
I thought it as a real piece of crap and just grabbed it to gut for like the IDC connector and whatnot but when I got it home and saw what it was
what it was??
i grabbed a cute little allin1 compact 486dx i used to postprocess APT on for yrs
Dmess I have to find a pic of it
Dmess well here's one pic of it can't find the one I'm looking for http://126.96.36.199:10000/Electronics/Projects/NewLab/NewPics/p1010017.jpg
it's an IBM Aptiva PII500
20 GB HDD DVD-ROM and a CD burner
cool... and that remarkable taste of free
last junker i picked up I thought was cool til I benchmarked it
was an HP kayak dual PII450
but it only had one CPU installed and it was a dog
thats what this box is...
mine has 2
so i gutted it for parts
threw the RAM into that IBM box
you still have the mommy board??
I got the whole thing cept for the RAM which is all I used
they are hard to find..
I got it to run the system
it's a little weird has like 2 SCSI units on it
and it wouldn't boot unless one of them had a drive on it
yeah.. wierd till ya fingered her out
but I ran a floppy based Linux distro on it and checked it's bogomips
and I got PI200s that'll kick it's ass
not this one..
yeah maybe wit hthe second CPU they run better
and 1 Gb a ram dont hurt..
thing was a total bear to work on
with that air duct in it
NO fackin room.. mine hasnt had the case on it in 4 yrs..
it's a heavy system
I thought I really had somehting when i grabbed it
its a work horse for me
the scsi are awesome fast...
the onboard monitoring seems to drag the system down
I didn't find the one I have very good on performance
not even noticable on here
what bogomips you get on that box?
did yours hace a plc kinda thing on the front
Calibrating delay loop... 1595.80 BogoMIPS
that's this box
dmesg | grep -i bogo
I tink the IBM is around 945
i'll chk later tonite when i reboot to linux
hmm you run something other than Linux?
Jymmm hey how'd reformatting go?
long story... wifes machine puked .. so i gave her mine . and put winblows98 on an ide till hers gets back..
I can't seem to kill a PC i got them like from the 80's here
pfred1: didn't yet... broke the mirror and when tested one drive (using mfg utility) set off an alarm on my mobo
boy.. wifey and kids are HARD on equipment here
oh I've killed HDDs or CD drives
HDDs anything past 5 years you're living on borrowed time
heh, well I have to pull the rcpt to see if it's under warranty or not
Hmmm Trillian is kinda weird
irc'ing from the laptop
Oh sodenote... Maxtor now makes their utilities available in ISO format
CDRW's are wonderful things =)
I've yet to actually rewrite one
kinda defeats the purpose of burning something to CD
really? oh no, not at all. Whats really great is if you create a bootable cd, you can test it out w/o making coasters
I use md5sum
burn an ISO, dont like it, erase it
or the loopback to mount the image
nothing todo with md5... actually CREATING the bootable disc
well if the file is right it works
boot scripts and menus
you're saying if someone releases something that is broken?
I create bootable cd's. With menus depending on the problem; maybe password recovery, or virus scanner etc. stuff like that
I test everything I create first.
I have shitlaods of bootable floppies I can email to ppl
I like Tom's RTBT
lol.... no no I mean like ghosting a hdd, then creating a CYA cd/dvd for it
the dvd contains the image file as well as being bootable with ghost on it ans some scripting added
hey does anyone here have to store small parts?
and loose or pkged
well less than 1/8" thick
this something I invented
[02:32:17] <pfred1> http://188.8.131.52:10000/Electronics/Projects/NewLab/NewPics/p1010020.jpg
you get this stuff called air conditioner filter foam and slightly modify jeweled CD cases
stuff stays organized :)
yeah CDs i keep on spindles anymore
except ive thrown out all my jewel cases =)
so jeweled cases well they not so good for CD storage anymore
you threw out good parts storage cases!
you can even stack them vertically like books
heh... just set off the mobo alarm again
you sure the CPU isn't overheating?
like is the CPU fan running?
another attempt foiled...fart stinker..
pfred1 yeah, I was running the diag util on the bad drive again and triggered it
I was running the maxtor diagnostic utility which scanns the hdd and I triggered the drive failure alarm on the mobo
I have SMART enabled on the mobo
pfred1 you familure w/ SMART ?
Jymmm newp I'm dumber than a box O' rox!
* Jymmm sarcasim alarm is on alert!!!
probably due to all the drugs i took back in the 80's
or lack of
man the 80's were fun!
depeche mode, etc
I was into harder stuff
you remember the 80's??
psychedelic furs were cool though
more like the germs
THE THE ?
yeah the pistols like the damned better tho
the damned actually had talent
heh, Iw as into tthe new wave bands mostly
ha ha new wave
get an album called the decline of the western civilization
and see what someone has to say about new wave on that :)
nah, too dark for me.
commadore 128 days
I had well still have a Sinclair
last time I tried it out
what's cool is how i replaced the keyboard on it
but no rf adpater to plug it into
how bout the super pet
the keyboard it came with really sucked
worse the a pc
was one of them membrane jobs
so I bought a surplus keyboard from radioshack and matched up the matrixes
brb swapping to to test the other hdd now
commadore made a 64 and 128... as well as a PET and the Super-PET mini computer
yeah we were all partying too hard back then to really get involved
lets see an ounce of weed or a computer? baggie!
i dunno how or why i did... all the hacks were old hippies
we played a lot of arcade games though
the money i pumped into arcade games I could have bought a few computers probably
we made alota games... basic .. assembler...
sometimes we'd blow $15 in an afternoon
back then I'd play with TTL logic I built a Z-80 based system
[02:57:41] <pfred1> http://184.108.40.206:10000/Electronics/Projects/OldProjects/proj2/p7100104.jpg
buying a computer a chip at a time seemed like a good idea to me at the time :)
yeag.. ive had a few of them projects too...
by the time I was at this stage with it I just bought a PC
that took me like 2 years to build
like anything else as you scale it you run into problems
that circuit drew almost 5 amps!
wow... she'd be a hot one...
nah it had plenty of air circulation
but i fed it with 14 gage wire
1amp in IC's, 4amps in the blower motor =)
fuck... the other hdd jsut set off the alarm too =(
[03:01:45] <pfred1> http://220.127.116.11:10000/Electronics/Projects/OldProjects/proj2/p7100098.jpg
big power supply!
thats a p/s
this thing sucked back some juice http://18.104.22.168:10000/Electronics/Projects/OldProjects/proj2/p7100090.jpg
it's a 7 segment display
latches and displays 4 bit binary
still no g2002 on www.geckodrive.com?
im off...gotta go look for the 14 yr old
hope you mean your child... and not the micheal jackson kinda of prowling.
LOL.. yeah.. ;)
Dmess, found the kid?
yeah.. hes at a friends for the nite...
You need to implant an RFID + GPS tracking unit under his skin. You can run the antenna out on the top of his head.
or be like those parents where they leash their childing on short teathers. ~2m worth of teather. So funny on the ski hills when I see that. Or at shopping malls. Silliness.
we used to ski with toddlers like that... iv taught 2 yr olds to ski..
I nearly ran over a few kids... hehe... cute kid, maybe ~4... playing on the half pipe with the father watching behind... they'd just go up, scrap the sides, and come back down.
I shouldn't have let them go first.. they took too long on the pipe.
and I'm barreling down on them... and they decide to go SLOW in the transition... so I nearly ran them over. that wouldn't have been run.
I was there first...
they were already 3/4 down the pipe already, before I started to go.
you were also the better boarder..
just that they took more than 2 minutes to finish the LAST 1/4 of the pipe.
right of way goe to the slowest vessel..
wasn't that I didn't give them enough time... it's only maybe 75m MAX length. More like 50m probably.
and you blasted it..
they only had like 15m left of the pipe... before I even started.
hey! I did get nice air! before I realized I was going to run the little kid over... so I bailed... caught an edge, and fell over. :) hehe. oh well... I would have felt worse if I hurt the little kid.
we ran a ski hill up in northern ontario my buddy hit a kid in a full tuck with a snomobile...
did he go like hey wow?
Dmess. this was at Blue Mountain.
head on basicly he went oh shit... my sis was ski patrol at the time..
no Raven Mountain... near Kirkland Lake
guy get hurt bad?
I've got no clue where that is.
I board at blue mountain, and I live in Pickering. a bit of a drive.
leg pelvis punctued lung...but ya gotta treat it as a spinal till hes at hopsital
im in oshawa
yes, I know injuries... I used to lifeguard.
Dmess, you run EMC, got a shop? what toys?
shit i give up speed skiing it was too dangerous .. so i took up hang gliding instead..
im still working on geting it up and running.. brb
so what machines you got running? Are you converting? or already have the toys?
the EMC BDI has found a B thats too D to I the flackin' thing
im planning on getting a used cnc .. im a cnc Applications Engineer
I'm _slow_ [actually haven't moved for a while] moving to EMC... still using turbocnc (which I registered)
im looking for a few small stepper drives... any ideas?
just seems like anything that needs realtime microsoft products wouldn't be the best choice to me
but isn't there a lot of machinists in oshawa? [and missuaga]
Dmess, www.geckodrive.com [I use them... excellent product and support]
not in Oshawa... miss.. yes.. but too long a drive.. been at it too many yrs..and miles..
i was lookin for used and cheap..
missuaga, cause of the airport... so lots of places get stuff done there... plus the manufacturing plants around there.
cheap and CNC don't go hand in hand
i know... ever heard this one..
Dmess, uh... checked out the auctions? Sometimes mills go for CHEAP... manual bridge port style, $800CDN. + 10% buyers premium + 15% tax. :( that hurts.
only cheap ones seem to be them burnt out Bridgeport jobbies
pick any 2... you can have it cheap... fast... or correct
seems like machine shops burn out them CNC bridgeports then toss them
Dmess, know where busybee tools is? [don't buy from them, just look]. It's out in pickering, right off brock rd. (not st)
pfred1, not locally here.
yeah they burn out the control units
i have a friend whos looking into a bmc-20 toshiba twin pallet 4 axis 40" x 30" x 40"
those mills aren't too bad... they're bench top. Depends on what you're looking for. how big? production speeds? what?
I know a guy got one for free
cat 50 5- axis would be ideal... i'll pick it up as scrap..
Dmess, good luck finding one around GTA that will toss something like that. :) [or any CNC mill]
any thought about a lathe module for EMC??
we have toooo many resellers and reconditioning tradesmen in the GTa.
i know many of them...
around here machining is not really viable so shops go under
same, people know that they'll pay the owner money [to pick it up, and move it themselves].
i used to work for Toshiba... then did a spell with DMG
Team Machine Tools...
heh... wonder what the employee discount would be for toshiba? hehe... "um, yeah, I like to buy this 1/4mill wire EDM machine, think I could get a 20% employee discount?"
water jets are cool
all machining equipment is cool.
no water jets are really cvool
DMG has an Ultrasonic machining center
I just got a trade magazine... it's a 3D laser cutter.
blasting through a foot of steel
they cut cleaner than lasers
Dmess? who were you addressing?
there's a bunch.
Prima-na.com is one.
the 3d one??
its a piece a work that machine...
salvagini.com is another.
yeash! "During minimally invasive neuroradiology procedures, doctors insert a catheter through the groin and into the brain, and small coils are used to clear up the bulge."
no clue... I just saw their ad.
man them people are scumbags
they gotta make a living so they going to charge high
pfred1, you're rambling.
that resellers never give good deals?
thats like Russian Dentistry... they go in thru your ASs
uhuh. I'm leaving this conversation in search for some nice soothing tea.
yeah to do brain surgery I wouldn't think to stick a tube up someone's privates!
but hey if it works
anyone ever seen the Toshiba ORBITAL function in action
Dmess one guy I read about built a CNC machine and he got his linear bearings for free from a scrapyard
they came out of a welder
THK or whatever that brand is
those things usually set you back a piece
Dmess what kind of a machine do you want?
CNC is so well broad a category
they do ... where are you located pfred1
I'm in the process of moving
right now I'm in a suburb of NYC
and it sucks here!
as i said im an applications guy... and if im gonna build my own it'll be like no other
I've seen so many different kinds
like what sort of work do you want to do then?
well imagine a boring mill type 4 axis mill
yeah that's the tough stuff
then the spindle picks up a 3 jaw chuck
no one really making homemade machines that can really do metal
you part goes in there and the chuck moves to the other end of the travel and turs it off of a stationary toolpost
but im gonna nigger-rig a few real metal machines together
like a mill with a rotary table?
yes... + you can put a lathe chuck on th spindle as well
* pfred1 wants a rotary table for his mill ...
but it's further down the list than other wants i have
then off on the end of your table you have lathe tools set up so othe part fits between them and you change toos
ever seen a harding chncII
personally i ascribe to the KISS theory because i am :)
nah just them old Bridgeports
table type tooling
well we had a CNC lathe too
that actually worked
well we knew how to work it at anyrate
heck if i know I didn't run it
Eddie ran those things
well he tried to
he always had the manual out for the Bridgeport
and he'd spend days scratching his head before he got it to do anything
he was a whiz on the turret lathe though
my job is to get ppl up and running as fast and as safely as possible..
I remember when my shop instituted the safety glasses rule
after the forman got a metal splinter in their eye
heh he was funny
from communist Poland
the company at one point tried to make their own CNC machine but it never happened
gotta dream big
yeah well when you're 84 it's hard to take on new projects i guess
poor old Henry
he was a cool old bird though!
ive had some like that too
man he'd come int othe shop and lift vises up onto the milling tables
I'd run over and go Henry what are you doing?
give him a hand
freaking 200 pound vises!
his other big thing was grinding metal splinters out of his hands
remove the offending flesh!
he was a piece of work
ive had to do that too..
his son was such a scumbag
such a freaking loser
the asshole would come in and regal us with storeies of how he'd burn 200 gallons of gas in his speedboat
yeah nice that you can blow $400 in 2 hours
and can't pay us!
thats never good..
i am a newbie in emc, but not in linux and rtlinux...I have some problem with compiling the emc source? Is there anybody who can help me?
First, which distro are you running ?
so, i doenload the src, from sourceforge, I compiled kernel 2.2.18-rtl and rtlinux3.0, but when i'd like to compile the emc neither of the IO control progam will compile...
such as minimillio or simio..
there is no io control program in the linux/bin dir
checkout rcslib & emc from cvs - The tarball is buggered.
then... Make sure you have pciutils-dev installed
along with tcl & tk dev packages.
ko i am checking....
BTW... Don't use gcc-2.96
* an0n yawns
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another adeos patch released...
I found somthing strange with emc btw..
when running or leaving it on for long passes the GUI starts to lag more and more..
those are hard to track... :(
hate those issues.
emc2 or 1 ?
I havent checked it out throughfully like resource usage..
but the system bogs down..
when pressing esc to abort a motion it takes about 15 secs
if it does at all..
So I downloaded 1.18 from cvs, I checked pciutils-dev it's installed, but i have the same problem
how long are you running EMC for ?
I leave it on in the shop always..
maybe a day..
without doing anything on the machine..
i use debian distro
bowie: Where did you get the 1.18 number from ?
from the generic.run
ooh i am sorry....from the generic.ini
Did you checkout over the top of your original compile ?
may i show my error log in private?
DCC it over...
paul_c, damn... the support you do give. :)
paul_c, did I tell you I finally got it up and running? it being multiple monitors? ubuntu changed from xfree, to xorg, so I was editing the wrong file for a while. :( [solved it a day afterwards, took a couple of hours]
how many monitors ?
3+1tv. On two cards... one pci, one agp
two to each card.
xinerama was the key... and that agp and pci are referranced differently. As well as monitors are not referrended by port, but by card... err. so many things.
xorg chan helped out, as well as the #ati chan.
I'll have to get around to set up a display box out in the shop someday soon
I'm off to sleep... 7:37am... spent all evening watching movies.
attack on presaint 13.
couple of tv shows.
'ight. I'm off