macoroni + cheese salad, coleslaw, buffalo wings, patatoe wedges.
took me a freak'n long time to the the atmel 90s2313 to connect to the LCD.
why not the 2400's ?
I havent gotten my lcd's to work..
never had enough time to play with it enough
robin_sz: "Buffalo Wings" (chicken wings coated in a mildly spice bbq and honey sauce) one of marketing's greatest acheivments
Jymmm, sorry, cause the 2313 was what I had already.
I love the LM Watts think going on in the bdi install.
Jymmm: I'm currently using a Synrad 10W rf-coupled CO2 laser mounted on a home-made 3-axis router
With 10W and shop air for assist gas, I can cut 1/4" poplar/oak at 8-12 ipm
With the Synrad, they use a PWM signal for control
I'm working crude, so right now I simply have a protoboard with some logic and 2 555 timers and opamps to sample the 555's charging waveform
One I set to the 1% PWM for standby, and the other I have on a turnpot for selectable power level
With EMC, there's ability for motion-synced digital I/O, which I use to 'fire' the laser
My current limitation is that I'm using a stepper driven router, which only gives me 22 ipm max
If I had a flying optics table, I could more easily finnesse other things with only 10W, such as cutting butile rubber
Need about 60-80 ipm for that - faster cut = shallower cut / less charring / easier ash removal / more passes
And FYI - cauterization produced by laser burns doesn't hurt at first, BUT
the ablated flesh get blasted deep into the surrounding tissue, which will REALLY hurt later
Google Sam's Laser FAQ
An example of something I did on veneer with low power:
[05:04:46] <asdfqwega> http://www.bright.net/~janfritz/Laser/gallery/ncf-plaque.jpg
asdfqwega: Cool. "Flying optics" ?
Jymmm is now known as Red70sShow
Red70sShow is now known as Jymmm
* anonimasu yawns
[13:31:13] <alex_joni> http://img.tapuz.co.il/forums/8572800.swf
still on this side of the pond?
I'm just relaxing, watching westerns, and cooking up a bunch of corned beef/cabbage
emc is sure coming through for me....grossed over $3000 this week running the machine
Have a minor problem on homing in the z axis sometimes
as if home switch opening is premature
noise on the line prob
or a bad switch
I have found I have to "exercise" the home and limit switches sometimes to clean the contacts
well back to the kitchen for me
that lets me off the hook then ;)
so what is this about a sensoray driver?
Have one of their cards now...
did you have to buy the one with the adc's?
what's the command to untar a tar.gz file? tar xfgv <filename>?
Can only get a DACless card to special order and in bulk
yes..I know been looking at them for quite a while
afterall...they are almost local
yeh...the 25 quantity is a bummer
A-L-P-H-A: man tar - Gives info about all the other options.
paul..which card do you have?
paul_c, yeah... I did a tar --help... and thought I remembered it. [quicker to just ask sometimes]
should be a good one
I'll be interested to see how it goes
opps...gotta run...catch everyone later
got your postcard
Got home & still can't get that MoDo to work...
was it working at Wierdstuff?
So they say - Wouldn't let me round back to see...
is this channel dead
is anyone using emc with a wire foam cutter
don't know for sure - But you'd probably find one of the Germans are...
do you have much experience with the program
what do you use to produce .nc files
by hand for small ones...
have you tried any linux dxf converters or anything of the sort
The only complex part I did, I used a shell script to produce the g code
I think Dan has tried hp2xx
do is go straight to gcode or do you need a ps converter
what are you starting with? DXF?
let me look at the man file for hp2xx again...
im looking at the website now, it outputs eps, pcx, img
i guess you need another program for the gcode
you can output g code
thanks for looking
I did some conversions from a *.BMP to autotrace -> hpgl through to g-code
used autotrace to convert to vector output
yeah autotrance is nice
autotrace -> hp2xx
you can use Sagcad to go directly from DXF to g-code
it's listed on the links page on linuxcnc.org
I probably missed how to go directly from DXF to hp2xx
I also found a small program called "cam.py", writte at MIT that will do DXF to g-code
but I'm having problems making the g-code simple and logical
it seems like it makes things way too complicated
i cant get any programs installed on the livecd installation
so no python
and i cant get rtai working on my gentoo setup
slowly fixing things
I need to go. The weather's very nice here today. Just like last Sunday.
thanks for the help
Good Day gents...
Hi Paul got a question for you...kinda dumb but when getting the CVS fikels, and when getting ready to compile, is plat directory to be creaetd in /emc?
plat/ is created at compile time
how fresh are the files in 4.18 ?
a couple of weeks
do you know if the lastest of Vital board code (homing ) is in or not?
no it isn't.
Hi Paul, how was your holiday ?
:( ...could you give me soem pointers on recompiling..?link ..?running an old tng box..
Imperator_: Apart from a couple of days when it rained...
ottos: Checkout cvs for rcslib & emc
nice here it is snowing and snowing :-)
cd rcslib/etc ./configure
make PLAT=realtime && make PLAT=nonrealtime
cd to emc/src and repeat the make
I was missing the ./compile...thanx a milion..:D
time to play...:D thank you all..later..
* Imperator_ hate's NML
"No More Lactating" ?
only thing I could think of
paul_c: welcome back ;)
Dumbass question.... They don't mean 1/4-20 threaded rod when they say "acme screw" do they?
no ideea ;)
Jymmm: the thread profile on plain threaded rod is a 60 degree V
acme screws have a thread profile more like "U"
cradek: Ah, ok.
cradek: I think watching too many roadrunner cartoons threw me off =)
how are things?
they're fine around here
nice to hear that...
* alex_joni has been busy lately...
busy is good
well.. up to a point ;)
I have to start some robots at a customer
and they have problems with mounting the parts.. so the weld is tricky
how are you ??
busy ... (& tired)
seen some very nice mills lately
I wake you up !!!
Jymmm : hey, I got some acme rod 1/2 10 a few months ago, I went with the inexpensive rolled stuff from msc, its not very good, the more you spend the higher quality you can expect out of good threaded rod
Imperator_: at some customer I'm working right now (http://www.robcon.ro/emc/bigmachines/)
gezr: rolled rod, as in hollow?
or cold rolled
the thread is formed by mashing it between rolling dies
gezr: Ah, and it didn't do too well huh?
its not hollow
alex_joni: a lathe
about 4 of the big ones ;)
Jymmm : its okay, but im talking just okay, it would be great if it wasnt used for motion
* Imperator_ needs somebody who understands NML
one has about 20m X-axis, 5m-Y, 5m-Z
Imperator_: ask away.. I might remember some stuff ;)
Jymmm : so if you get some, opt for a higher quality threaded rod, in the acme form
nice small machine
I want to add a new command
or the better word is maybe message ??
gezr: lol. Well, since this would be my first, I'm debating going cheap initially (threaded rod, draw slides, mdf) to get a feel for everything, then once I do, go for the SS this, and pillow block that...
Jymmm : yeah :), thats what I did. but I paid for it,
Jymmm : just spend a bit more on the rod and nuts
gezr: how so? too much scrapped material?
Imperator_: what kind of subsystem?
nothing scrapped, just had to spend a lot of time cleaning the threads, and its still not a very fluid turn
gezr: Ok, makes sense. My biggest issue is I want large footprint. And not knowing what to enforce here or there just yet. Most plans I've seen so far seem to be lacking in the Z axis.
gezr: but I could be talking out my ass too.
yeah, im just mentioning my experience, youll get out of it exactly what you put in, even in a test case, you dont want to skimp your self too much
Jymmm : just go as close to what your going to end up with, so that your more able to predict what will happen
gezr: I'm just whining about buying 36" now to play/test/ then having to but 60" later on.
Jymmm : oh yeah :)
Unless of course acme rod comes in a Lego (tm) version?! =)
it does, but you have to buy it from lego and its plastic
Is there plans out there that are pretty decent?
* Jymmm isn't making space shuttle parts or anything =)
Jymmm: too bad.. those would sell ok ;)
Are any slides better than others? I don't know what it's called but the side view of the rail looks like a slice of bread.
hmmm.. what kind of bread ? :-)
4 balls on the sides?
on the slide?
That is just the rail. That profile is the whole lengith of the slide.
darn.. I suck at ascii art ;)
It's about 1/2" tall
Ok, if the edge of the rail looks like this, with mounting holes every 6" or so...
( | | )
) | | (
| | | |
| | | |
The bearing looks sorta like this...
| ___________ |
| ( ) |
on the sides and on top?
just the sides iirc, but could be wring.
alex_joni_ is now known as alex_joni
looks like this --> http://www.qbcbearings.com/RFQ/CoverPg/B615Images/TRKD_Tables.jpg
though that one is wider and shallower than the one I was attempting to describe.
* alex_joni leaves for half an hour
depends on the specs, and what you need
probably there are a lot of different manufacturer/products looking almost the same
depends on what forces you need,
what precision, etc
Yeah, I just dont know which bearings/slides are intended for which application.... speed, precision, load, etc.
hort/vert moutning/motion etc.
for best precision/load there are the ones I tried to describe above
with 4 lines of balls between the carriage and the slide
so the rail has four "tracks", one in each corner?
but it depends on the app
* alex_joni is back
bits of me keep falling off!
lost a letter?
so, anyting new?
besides pieces of you?
yes, besides that
not much ;)
maybe tomorrow will be more busy
I started sketching up another plasma .. well, You have to dont you :)
how do you mean that?
Well.... wasn't that an enlightening conversation.
3:28:00] <roel1> hi
[13:29:06] <alex_joni> hello
[23:27] <roel1> hi
[23:28] <alex_joni> hello
roel1: where from?
lots of new faces around here
i'm from holland
how new? (the new faces you talk about?)
alex_joni: Ijust meant I had a little time on my hands this afternnon, and sure enough, anther plasma cutter start to form on the drawing board :)
* alex_joni is about half a year new ;)
hey roel1, not seen you on here for a while
robin: nice, maybe you can post some designs :P
my last connection to this room 7 to 8 months ago
hows the PCB business ?
* K`zan hates doing PCBs :-).
EVIL necessity :-)
makes them even multi layer
no problem for me
you were doing PTH last time ..
gone multi layer now eh?
thp fully under control on the moment
thats big boys toys :)
multi = >2 ?
blind vias yet?
Wish I could afford to have them done, perhaps someday....
4 layers i can handle perfect
but now im waiting for orders :))
roel1: Web site ?
I might have some prototypes coming up
K`zan: how big?
not on the moment
Jymmm: Ranges from about 1 square inch to 100x150mm
roel1: leave me your email, I might have prototypes in a few weeks
I do't mind making the boards, it is drilling them that drives me to drink :-0, which of course makes it harder and take longer to drill LOL :-).
K`zan: I found a place REALLY cheap, but havne't used them yet. They sound very reasonable and cluefull
K`zan: do it with emc
Jymmm: Sure would be nice, best I have seen, IIRC, was about $2.50US oer sqare inch...
I found one doing 2 euro-cards for 50 GBP
K`zan: like minimum being $25
hehe lol i drill them with me own build graver/driller
K`zan: let me find it
K`zan: you need multi layer?
alex_joni: Looking into that, downloaded the BDI iso install last night, but with half a dozen different OS and other partitions, that scares me.
roel1: can you do 'buried' or 'blind' vias on your boards yet? (not that I need them, just curious)
Jymmm: No, most I would need is double sided, I now spend forever revising them in PCB (a *nix tool) getting them to single sided with as few jumpers as possible,
K`zan: try the Live
K`zan: 160mm x 100mm == $33 USD
buried must go but is a real pain in the ass
alex_joni: Will go back and get that today, RH based so that is good :-).
Jymmm: NOT too shabby, where is this place?
K`zan EU somewhere, but ship to NA
Jymmm: if shipping cost aren't like those on ebay, I mightbe able to afford it :-).
K`zan very reasonable
err $9 USD
Jymmm: Checking now... THANKS!!!!!
isnt plated he'
Jymmm: Still not bad at all for shipping :-).
K`zan: np, let me know if you order how it turns out.
K`zan: and that is there prototype pricing, not their production procing.
K`zan: Live is not RH based
Jymmm: I hope I can gen the files with PCB, we'll see...
alex_joni: Ah, well it was a LATE and fast scan last night :-).
The older are RH-based (BDI-2.18,2.20, BDI-TNG)
K`zan: Ah... BULGARIA
Jymmm: Just as long as it isn't france :-) :-) :-) LOL.
K`zan France bad?
do they make bad PCBs in france?
alex_joni: Do you have a link for the live one, only one I saw last night was RH based.
or just bad Frenchmen
Jymmm: Dunno, but according to my mother: "The french never forgive a favor" :-), so I just avoid the whole scene.
Hmmm... they have uC proto kits too
Jymmm: My mother lived in europe for the better part of 20 years, so I trust her judgement in these matters :-).
pricing isn't too shabby... AVR w/ a 1x16 LCD assembled $34 USD
K`zan: lol, fair enough
* alex_joni can only advise you to use Olimex
I got an JTAG for AVR from them, works great, and very cheap
* K`zan off looking for the live.
alex_joni: heh, thats where were talking about, but they do PCB's too
alex_joni: define "very cheap", I wouldn't mind having jtag capability.
* robin_z stares at the olimex website
all black ...
50$ or so
robin: not every browser can open it ;)
robin_z: Works fine with firefox...
* robin_z has netscape 7
alex_joni: es anyone: where is that live CD, I am not seeing anything on it.
robin_z: should get firefox :-).
websites should learn to write html
robin_z: masochism is it's own reward :-).
wpnder how many errors they had on that page?
[21:48:44] <alex_joni> http://www.olimex.com/pcb/index.html
robin_z: Nice thought, but it ain't gonna happen :-(.
Netscape� Communicator 4.8
Copyright � 1994-2002 Netscape Communications Corporation, All rights reserved.
a LOT ;)
emc live cd
opera crashes too
ooh, 16 errors
yup.. just black ;)
K`zan: commercial sites cant afford to not work in various browsers.
you lose MONEY that way
alex_joni: Is this the one I want?: -rw-r--r-- 1 henkka henkka 589342720 Jun 11 10:25 BDI-2.20b.iso
robin_z: Agree, but they do that anyway...
killing download now...
that's an RH6 based iirc
well, if they can't get their homepage right (which presumably they care about) perhaps they cant get my PCB right ... dunno.
BDI-Live_rc46.iso, lets try that one...
that sounds more like it
K`zan: what pcb you making? (just being nosey)
alex_joni: Coming down now, bloody slow site...
Jymmm: Various adapter board, several for an anamatronics controller project I am working on, various other things...
robin: I heard good stuff about them .. ;)
K`zan: ah, ok.
K`zan: they complained they don't have the bandwith for the mirror
I'm working on a new mirror ;)
alex_joni: Will be VERY appreciated I am sure!
whats wrong with sourceforge for the mirror?
Jymmm: Some pix of this mess: http://wrlabs.shacknet.nu:8181/~vw/00-4-tp/oldpix
robin: sourceforge doesn't host ISO's
well, gzip em then ;)
witch.seastar.org could not be found ...
robin_z: this is the last pcb i made http://www.xs4all.nl/~atmel/capt/001.jpg
they have an issue with big files too
roel1: nice. CNC I/O?
K`zan: unable to resolve
Jymmm: used to be :-), just never changed it internally.
robin_z: yes it is a i/o
K`zan can't resolve either one
Jymmm: Lemme fix your dns for ya ;-)
K`zan: HA! Not after seeing how your's is maintained!!!
Jymmm: Some pix of this mess: http://18.104.22.168:8181/~vw/00-4-tp/oldpix
no route to host
LOL, I am not going to pay those people for a fqdn / IP that existed LONG before they started extorting money for it...
* K`zan wonders if comcast changed my ip (again) checking...
and as result http://www.xs4all.nl/~atmel/capt/box2.jpg
you have non-static IP
roel1: ooh, routed too. nice.!!
Jymmm: Some pix of this mess: http://22.214.171.124:8181/~vw/00-4-tp/oldpix
Fumble fingers :-[
Too many all nighters this week...
k`zan: when posting ip-urls, use a / at the end
[22:07:09] <alex_joni> http://126.96.36.199:8181/~vw/00-4-tp/oldpix/
K`zan: fix your dns
else the web-server will return it's standard name
Jymmm: try the URL I posted, works here
K`zan: look, its never going to work while you are sendign a 301 to witch1.seastar.org
K`zan: drop that seastar entries big time
alex_joni that works
Jymmm: alex_joni yes, item 1,475,324 on my list ;-).
yes, because you don't get a 404/301 whatever ;)
yeah, the other uRI was doing a 301, moved permanently to witch1 etc
* robin_z gets bored
* alex_joni joins the boredom
nothing to plasmcut! robin
sigh .. not at the moment roel
got LASERS now :)
got a job 4 u :)
a Trumpf :)
robin_z but you wont't share em!
Jymmm: I'll sell you that 1200w trumpf head ;)
roel1: got DXFs?
robin_z: I'm still considering the surgical one
* alex_joni is downloading 2.6.10
Jymmm: just buy it and send the the other 1101 dollars
robin: yeh lots of them
robin_z: sure, but you make the laser operational =)
roel1: if yo uhave DXFs, I can laser em in up to 6mm steel, no problem
I will be ready to invest in a CNC machine soon
robin: its just 0.5 mm mild steel
roel1: cnc press and powder coat too :)
which would be a good machine to start with ?
tss nothing home build, shame on you
roel1: the powder oven and extract is home build
roel1: LOTS of 500w halogen bulbs
i have homebuilt already , but not ready to work yet , was able to cash in on a property sale and wouldlike to open up a shop
oh ur not talking to me :-)
roel1: and I have this http://redpoint.org.uk/photos/lasers/
robin : why not infra-red ceramic heaters
roel1: expensive, halogen bulbs run on half voltage do same job for less $$$
robin_z: come on.... 10# of lit magnesium will do it cheaper!
go salvage some old vw blocks =)
well, I pump 20kw into the oven for hours on end, might need more than 10lbs
ok.... 12#'s =)
why do you use # for lbs?
* alex_joni takes a shortcut
is that an american thing?
catch you tomorrow guys
pound symbol --> #
no, thats a hash symbol
123 456 789 *0# <---- pound symbol
$ <--- dollar
get with the times, it's Euro's now =)
not in the UK it isnt :)
* Jymmm stops here.... could do the UK jokes/bagging all night =)
and it's onlt 14:00 =)
So does anybody have a suggestion on buying a first CNC Machine to open a shop ?
did anybody know the command to search a string in all files of a folder ????
Imperator_: yeah ... grep foobar * -r
where foobar is the string
hear anything good about the HAAs toolroom mill?
grep "my search string" * -r
Imperator_: that is recursive, will do subfolders too
thats what i want Robin
a70camaro: depends what market you want to get into, cnc laser is often 'jobshopped' ie just cut and send it out, hilling etc usually is part of a general engineering operation
some places do contract turning, but margins are thin
suspect you need to do mould making or such like to make real money
well i thought short run jobs which alot of the bigger shops wont touch would be a good market to get into
suspect that needs lots of gear :(
find out whats going inyour local market
even the big shops are scratching for work here, theyll quote on small runs too
You know what's sad.... "Build the CNC _________ , and the customers will come" is the mentality. And damnit if I don't have the same thinking! LOL
well I have noticed here that the used equipment market is shrinking , I guess that could be a good sign that machine shops are geting busy again
nah, it just means eventhe used resellers have gone out of business
and the cost of shipping to india is falling
and theres nothing left to ship
I'm don't know about the rest of the world, but in the US has just become a "Disposable Society" anymore. =(
speaking of , has anybody called Dell technical support latley ??? it goes straight to india
Microwave oveen $29, TV broken, buy a new one.
a70camaro: thart started about 5 years ago in the UK
we wont even mention cellphones.
* asdfqwega is a throwback to the old days - I repair everything I can
I have thought about machining just for my own product ,but i have to think of something to sell first :-)
I just fixed a keyboard with a conductive ink pen
socal was one of the hardest hit areas, around 20,000 small shops went to the wall in the last 5 years there
a70camaro I have racked my brain with thousands of ideas, but while I can build it, it's a bitch merketing some of them.
yes I have noticed that , seems any used equipment I have found is on the other side in California ,which makes it a pain for me since I am on the east coast
* Jymmm is in Calif =)
tooling is sellign at $3 a pound out there
just about any machine that i had interest in has been in Ca
* Jymmm is a dumpster diving whore!
like you are going to put it on the web at $3 a pound
its effectively scrap prices,
same for machine tools
SoCal has/had the TRW swapmeet years ago - you could find amything
Jymmm , ebay ;-)
* Jymmm hates ebay
* Jymmm also lives 2 miles from ebay HQ
lots of perfectly good machine tools went for scrap out there over recent years, even india coulnt take the volume thats come out of socal ..
a couple weeks ago I wish i had the $$ , some guy was selling a HAAS toolroom mill with 40 hours on it fully decked out for 20k
but, there you go
I just want a cnc router with a laser
it's all the physical room I have
you'll have to build it
lasers have to be enclosed
so you'll not find a commercial one with a router head
Since December I've been looking at http://versalaser.com/english/
but it's $14,000 USD for only 12" x 24" @ 35 Watts. I just can't see spending that much for such a small thing.
too small to be of use to anythng but a sign shop
Actually I lnow a guy that has a product and right now is making them on a "OLD" machine ,I have approached him to come in as a partner if I buy a new machine to run his parts on
or plastics cutting, photo engraving
a70camaro: good choice.
yea but , i am shaky on the partner thing
Jymmm: you seen what hapens to a laser when you cut plastic?
robin_z: to the laser or the piece?
Jymmm: lets say "nasty fumes"
sticky black dirty fumes
robin_z: Oh, yeah.... 950CFM blower $99
yuck yuck yuck
robin_z: I can spend the money on nice bearings and such, but w/o a laser I can't see much use for it.
for a start use al laserpencil :)
robin_z: thus when you can across that OR laser, it seriously peaked my interest.
well I have a lot of thinking to do ,this is a once in alifetime deal I was able to make so I need to be smart with the $$
roel1 say what?
handheld laser (kids plaing with it)
roel1: I finally caught on. But I was being serious.
If I could find a laser, I'd do it.
I have about $5K budget for the right thing.
were you from !
cant be that hard to find in the states i think
roel1: it's the cost.... a 10W CO2 (new) is $1600
100Watt is $14,000 USD
Jymmm: as I showed you, ebay is <1000 USD
or search madeinchina.com
robin_z: are you talking just that one sergery laser? As I couldn't find others on ebay.
you're kidding me right?
robin_z: " searched for "CO2 laser"
robin_z: I know it sounds bad, but all IO'm finding are $10,000 USD and up
no, I'm not kidding
searched in title and description
[22:57:50] <robin_z> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3179&item=3874633232&rd=1
robin_z "sold as parts"
[22:59:17] <robin_z> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26237&item=3874666785&rd=1
you'll have to buy a new one for $$$ or a probably OK one for 899 on eaby
robin_z: the 'ok' one is fine, but I don't want to spend $1000 to find out it's DOA AS-IS
well, spend 5k on a new one then
$5k for 100Watt?
tha'ts my problem.
big country just east of you
robin_z: Have you bought anything directly fron China?
robin_z: I dont mean off of ebay, I mean contacting china and buying something directly
what was that out of curisity?
circuit boards, components, laser tubes, disco lights, speakers, amplifiers, ..
shall I go on?
no, that's fine. you speak chinese?
robin_z did you buy bulk?
but, they speak english
bulk? ... not really .. 20 of each I guess
except circuit boards ..
nah, that's not bulk
8000 a time :)
I meant container
nah, not doen a containerfull yet.
700GBP for a container to UK we got quoted
not bad at all for a container
yeah... we bought $80 of product, shipping was $100
not really, no.
sigh, didn't save the bookmark for the live EMC iso, now I got to find it again :-/.
does it matter if shipping is 100$ on 80 dollars of product?
at china prices that 180 dollar total would syill cost you 500 in the US
Jymmm: so there aer your choices. buy cheap on ebay, pay full whack in the US or import from china ... take your pick
paul_c: THanks MUCH!
[23:13:10] <roel1> http://www.laserresale.com/
hi Paul :)
id forgotten about laseresale
lots of goodieson there
roel1: if you want any laser cutting, just ask
robin: ok and ask me if u wand some printing done he'
just found a picture of me
robin: me and me bike in action 3rd overall dutch champ 2004 http://www.xs4all.nl/~atmel/actie.jpg
still trying to hurt yourself I see ;)
:) going mad on tarmac lately
yeah, better than sand?
hurts more when it hits you on the head
yeh its fast with 70 hp ( like a rocket out tha corner)
I can imagine ...
alan_01: You really shouldn't be logging on as root
I just got really lucky, I was putting the crankshaft back in, and I moved a new lamp over, and saw a few glass beads I didnt get washed out. I had to abort the assembly for now.
paul, you are right
gezr: you will find beads for yeears
robin_z : probably :)
robin: now im building a cdi-ignition that i can modify on the hanldebar
roel1: yeah, I used to egt bored on my bike too .. mid race, always handy to have a small electronics project to get on with ;))
robin: thats the part where some lasercutting is wanted
* alan_01 slaps asdfqwega around with a small 50lb Unix Manual
ill just take my time, and use a power washer to have at it, I dont have the best situation to do cleaning here
* asdfqwega slaps alan_01 around with a piece of roadkill
roel1: a box for it?
robin: nope the ignition in the engine itself that is made off 0.5 mm sheets
ahh, the cores of the coil
thats silicon-iron probably, not mild steel
same as transformer metal i think
need a lacquer layer too
do a dxf, I'll see what I have
might have some thin zintec
first i have to find the plastic caps were the wire gose on ( cant find the right words for it)
ummm ... bobbin
either of those
spool inner parts the plastik parts
or make some
cardboard tube with resin, glassfibre PCB for end plates
m there fits the routing machine well for the end caps :)
I wonder about windows programming
I mean ,..
I look at some linux code
I see how it works
C++ .. java .. perl .. no problem
I look at a windows program in C++ .. I can t even FIND the code
* K`zan was off drooling on the sherline mills and lathes :-).
this is in Borland Builder C++
* K`zan will no longer touch m$ anything
its a program that opens a DXF and displays it ...
it works, so the code MUST be in there ... somewhere
shrug, I hat M$ .. but .. most people have it, so you need to accept that and work with it...
just keep it away from the raltime stuff ! :(
robin_z: There is that, but a lot of people are going linux, so I'll just bide my time :-).
Having been screwed by m$ since winditz 2.0, I have had ENOUGH of that.
* K`zan masochism DOES have limits :-).
Mfg has sample pic of "laser marking detonators"! lol
well, yeah, but windows isnt THAT bad anymore ... 2.0 was orrible .. XP is actually nice
it doesnt even crash anymore!
xp sucks just as badly...
* robin_z touches wood
Horsehocky, it toasts reasonably regularly, NOT as bad as the stuff before, but...
I havent had my XP workstation bluescreen yet
had it 2 years now
I live across the lake from m$ and know people that work there. amazing they can have such GOOD people and turn out such *shit*.
well, its not bad ... linux has its purpose, like servers, I always run linux on servers
installing stuff on XP is easy, so is removing it
I have a girlfriend who works over there, she is very prim and propper, and I asked her about IE once (she worked on it, at the time) and she described the code as "shit", the ONLY foul language I ever heard her use...
that soemtimes its not justyou doing the installing and removing ;)
Problem is that it still has all the problems it always had and STILL doesn't play nice with others.
IEsucks, thats true
I do use firefox on doze, and thunderbird
IE is just another windoz app...
Me too, only thing I keep winditz around for anymore is games...
yeah, but there are some great apps for doze you cant get on linux (yet)
Various flight sims, OFP...
solidworks, cam packages, blah blah blah
the Xilinx FPGA design tool ! .. now .. that rocks.
yes, true, but if you look around and are willing to deal with it, you can get by with linux apps and even come to love them :-).
linux wins there .. like Eclipse for development
Not for me, all the stuff I used to miss, I just don't worry about anymore, found stuff I can live with to do what I need to do. FAR less hassle overall.
And far cheaper :-).
I still do 50/50 doze and linux on the desktop, 100% linux on servers
I use whatever works
linux on the servers for sure, but whatever works,
Same here, I just have found I don't NEED anything from m$ anymore.
well, I do. but that may change in the next few years
NICE place to be, I can say that I never expect that to be possible.
Up until about 3-4 years ago now, I maintained that linux as a desktop / workstation was not possible.
oh its possible, has been for ages
Servers YES, desktop NO, but that has changed.
my laptop has been linux for 7 years now
I used linux as a desktop for oh my, since 98 or so
For a long time it was not, the apps just didn't exist, but that is changing at an ever increasing rate now.
but theres still a lot of apps that are doze only ...
Not for me :-).
well, for me there are, and I'll probably develop my next "thing" on doze too
not because I like it ..
I hate it for development
After installing windows, 10,253,354,112,458 times, I am just totally burned out to spending money for that kind of abuse :-).
but my customers will have it, so go with it I say.
Get a better class of customer :-).
yeh, nice thought
not in industry/
I refuse to support it anymore. I'll live under a bridge first. Fortunately that hasn't become necessary :-).
I dont have that high a set of principles.
Once again supporting my theory that most managers in industry are idiots on a good day...
hell, thats very insulting.
to idiots :)
Saw the same thing back in the IBM mainframe days "Nobody ever got fired for specifying IBM" s/IBM/M$ now...
dunno abu that
True, apologies to iditos ;-)
in server markets .. M$ is a poor choice, and a rare choice these days
BTDT, true... Sad to say. Since managers started coming from college, it has been a fact...
but desktop, dunno. XP is pretty decent ... way better than anyting they offered before
Never understood that mess until I discovered that a long time ago, that managers were workers who were too old to actually do the heavy work anymore and took a pay cut to keep working and show the workers how to do things :-).
later guys :)