* alex_joni waves
* paul_c gesticulates in response
* alex_joni has been away
It hadn't gone unoticed
what is new around?
I briefly got the time to look over the logs...
* alex_joni has seen some work from paul_c on BDI4.0x
It's now out in the wild being tested.
is it some where public to download from?
I see.. how is 2.6. going?
No problems so afr.
I've seen some movement of the Makefiles from the top level dir
but didn't have the chance yet to check out
just the cvs-commit messages
Slowly committing the 2.6 work to SF, but it isn't all there yet, so won't compile.
are you working on a branch?
thought I saw some commits on the branch... but I looked closer and it was on the 2.6 branch
03Zathras 07BDI build system * 10Babylon Cluster/emcmotcfg.h: File changed. New revision:emcmotglb.c
03Zathras 07BDI build system * 10Babylon Cluster/usrmotintf.c: File changed. New revision:usrmotintf.h
03Zathras 07BDI build system * 10Babylon Cluster/emcsh.cc: File changed. New revision:22.214.171.124
Doing most of the testing with a local repo.
just say if you need help
am toying with the idea of using the autoconf stuff in rcslib/etc to generate a realtime.def & nonrealtime.def
want me to take a peek?
It should be fairly trivial to do...
I think so too...
* alex_joni is having a look at a .def file
Both defs share a lot of common data
I don't really like the way it handles some defaults (e.g. rtaidir)
that's a script that gets executed everytime a def is included
what I want to think about is the sepparation between rcslib and emc1
how and where gets autoconf (./configure) run?
just one time in rcslib, and keep it kinda like now?
or would it help if done otherwise
* paul_c was thinking about a shell script in the top level dir - See emc/scripts/generic/compile*
top level = above rcslib and emc ?
I see... (but the .def files do have to be kept inside rcslib/etc/ )
otherwise it would involve a lot of changes.. right?
emc.run would also need a small adjustment too.
how do you feel about the ./configure generated emc.run ?
as in "horrible idea"
and why's that?
To use configure to alter one or two lines in a 1000 line script just strikes me as being daft.
There are better tools for that sort of thing, if it is needed at all.
I agree on that... but to include a config-file (as an alternative) is horrible too
so you think we should leave the sorting of what files get run to emc.run ?
emc.run already knows about files (and the required parameters)
it doesn't know about paths yet
have a look at the autoconf_install_0_1 branch when you'll have the time
You talking about emc1 or 2 ?
and maybe (I didn't look at emc1.run yet) take over some concepts to emc1 from there
* alex_joni is going home
talk about this tomorrow
* robin_sz is
Yo Ray - Missed you first time round.
That's the way this dev stuff is. Get a direction going and takes a while to get round to other things.
Been fixing minor bugs today...
Trying to get the cd burner going under 4.02 and can't figure out how to get the usual info.
Nothing happens except a return prompt.
sudo cdrecord -v dev=/dev/hdc foo.iso
is the incantation I use...
No cat /proc/pci???
I can't even see the cdrom.
rayh: try sudo cdrecord -scanbus
lsmod | grep ide_cd
no return from lsmod.
try insmodding ide_cd
scanbus found it at 0,0,0
then try cdrecord dev=0,0,0 file.iso
(is your machine a real scsi?)
Do i need hdc=scsi in grub?
hi les ...
sorry, the connection dropped
rayh: don't know (mine is real scsi)
It isn't needed with 2.6 kernels.
just walked back in from the shop
todays task was snazzing up the powder oven a bit
can't read ide_cd no such file...
it was a conveyor system, but I wanted a small static batch oven
so, turned it upside down so it has a slot in the bottom, rather than a slot in the top (where the conveyor used to go) put it on a stand, and will make up some frames (like clothes rails) to hang stuff on and wheel it in
lemme boot a new install...
I have to make many more drying racks
I'm planning 3 racks, 1 painting .. one in the oven, one cooling
gosh I need about 20 racks
but that's wet paint...
cant powder it?
it is possible to powder wood
works a treat on MDF
but no, I will use a uralkyd
they have cure cycles in the order of 30 seconds :)
In my case dwell (drying) time is pretty much free
except for the racks ...
...if I have a lot of racks
well I have this shelf thing in the booth
has about 20 slots in it
can you UV zap it to push it on a bit?
each holds a slab of osb with 20 or so parts
uralkyds dry by oxidation polymerization
heat helps...(double reaction rate every 10c)
so .. being winter isnt a plus pointthen
uv tears up the toluene di isocyanate
yeah 19f this morning
whats that in proper money?
and its fall by the way
there I go using paul's legacy units again
I'll accept celsius and kelvin
anything else is for houswives and cooking
actually I always use mks for science/engineering
yesterday I was absolutely thirsty
but most of my tools in the shop are imperial
thirsty? so what did you do about it?
went into the office, grabbed a bottle of coke and took 3 or 4 big ... long ... gulps
then thought ... 'hmmm .. not fizzy'
infact ... tastes a bit ... mouldy
sure enough, it had gone cloudy :(
then I reallised it wasnt even coke ...
it was some blackcurrant cordial I made up
your taste buds are shot
it had gone brown, like coke
it tasted like ide been eating a strong cheese, like stilton
this was yesterday, still alive today :)
at least not poisoned like that poor guy in Ukraine
hey...what do you charge for your plama machines?
I'll bet plama means something in spanish...wonder what
* picnet isnt really here (ever)
anything new besides microchip technology?
0.5cc rotary engine... micro gas turbines running at 12Mrpm
hey picent .. has all the snow melted?
4mm dia rotor
nice and .. soggy now?
its like a skating ring.
how I love this bit of the finnish winter
lol, ive done the tripple step a few times but havent fell yet.
I got my machine through to 'production' version now
your not cutting the parts, rather they fly out some other companies machine?
hey robin, long time no talk
paul_c, by rotary to you mean wankel?
picnet: nah, i cut the parts, I got another laser :)
my mechanic is trying to convince me to put a 20b engine in my car (3-rotor wankel twin turbo)
not the one you saw
nice, no go with the super one I saw?
still there .. not had time to play
the new one is .. errr ... bigger :)
like 8 tonnes :)
one that works and is able to cut is better than one the doenst work and is not able to cut. <you do know i have a phd in stating the obvious?>
[22:25:47] <robin_sz> http://www.rapidcut.co.uk/images/LY2500.jpg
.. I think
why did I read "traumatic LT 2500" on that machine?
but your version might be better
my sony pda took a dive in the toilet, made me think why "stuff just aint water proof"
a wash in distilled water didnt fix it either - alas its in silicon heaven.
I normally jusy stick em under the shower
memory stick thingie survived, so that was good.
How useful are PDA's?
Sometimes I think, "Hey, I could use one..."
But I doubt they'd take the abuse from me
hey tbl ...
* robin_sz kicks tbl
tbl: In answer to your question yesterday... Yes.
what was my question yesterday?
and what's up robin_sz !
"Can BDI-4.02 be run on a P2 400MHz"
* robin_sz returns