hey... how's it going?
seen you did some more work on the plot3d
just a bugfix I think
I like the live plot now that it works right
too bad about the license.
I tested backplot (the tcl one) on a M$
I managed to run emc with ssh with X-forwarding
to a Cygwin/X server on M$
couldn't believe it's that easy...
and free .. btw
yeah I have several programmers that tunnel X with putty when they're at home
I do that a few years now...
vnc is faster
but I wasn't aware I could tunnel X too
at least not to windoze
* alex_joni lost his mouse...
I did try vnc some time ago...
didn't like colors & such (guess I didn't spend too much time setting it up)
paul_c: are you around?
I'll send you an e-mail about the latest stuff...
* paul_c hovers over the in box
* alex_joni sent the e-mail...
cradek: short question
can't make emcplot3d to display the whole image before done...
I tried Toggle display of programmed plot .. p
* paul_c waits...
no e-mail yet ?
it's been 15 minutes now...
these things get more unreliable as they progress... :(
* alex_joni figured out he needs to load a program and pass the inifile as param to emcplot3d, now it works beautifully
alex_joni: You sure you used the correct address ?
looks like that...
bye les ;)
was finally forced by a bad ap crash to load winxp and I hate it hate it hateit
I'm gone for today...
I got a third hdd to run the silly XP on....still have the raid one pair with all the old data
will check if Promise Raid controller can do LINUX
'pends which kernel you use.
so now I have 240G on here
I was afraid the xp install would wipe my data on the raid pair
couldn't copy it well with dos
cheaper and less risky to just pop in another Seagate 80 as primary IDE
(the raid controller looks like SCUSI)
never messed with raid
it turns out to be not that useful for datasecurity
if software trashes the file system it does it to both in raid1
it does protect well in case of HDD failure
it is faster as well
I was going to put all data on the RAID pair dumb xp on the third
it seems to not like that
damn this is a ridiculous os
opps...haha it has to phone home within 30 days so gates can interogate my drives fully
if you put on an ap that doesn't have "windows logo verification" is tells you to NOT install it
wait till you get fully DMCA aware software...
not sure about that, but it sounds bad
look up the M$ Longhorn project.
oh I heard about that some
But I am forced to use this crap...customers use it as well as most commercial software
oh well...I'm just pissed....I had better get back to reinstalling 40G of software....AGAIN
doctor said I have severe stress symptoms and this ain't helping
les smearing the good name of hitler with the gates comparison
Rats... I think I missed a good rant and this thing doesn't allow me to scroll.
[08:25:15] <paul_c> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/07/blue_state_to_reds/
daryl_v try page up
* daryl_v forgot the /me
daryl_v then switch to bitchx :)
Yeah... will definitely find a better one than this if I keep irc'ing. Or maybe I'll just figure out how to use this one. ;)
* paul_c thinks the next BDI should not be called "lite"
this build is currently at 14 CDs
yup plus the source disks.
ah the last BDI I got was one CD what's going on?
Now it designs your project too.
Oh... Just a few extra apps.
paul_c you're kidding with 14 CDs I hope
this is the first build....
might get away with 15 for the final ;O
* daryl_v hands paul_c a runtime linker.
* paul_c hands daryl_v 29Megs of Debian mirror
* daryl_v falls over.
and that's just for i386
paul_c will there be a network install option?
oh wait this is the debian based one?
using me as a server ?
* daryl_v plugs an ethernet cable into paul_c.
well it's less bandwidth in the long run to network install than serve isos
You like maths ?
how long would it take for you to download 14 images on a 128K line ?
paul_c oh I'd say maybe 2 days
* paul_c downgrades the line to dialup speeds...
I downloaded slack 3.4 on a dial up
all 128MB of it ran it too!
How big is a normal debian install?
daryl_v there's no such animal
there's a minimal install
you can get debian up and running off of 6 floppies
but no X etc
now there's a challenge
The bare minimum install for a fully functioning EMC
Probably less than that
there's X distros on 2 floppies
gotta have a GUI interface.
yup X on 2 floppies
Does RTAI work on ARM's?
some of them
I like the idea of a small embedded box to do all the rt stuff, with an ethernet cable to plug into an x-server.
served X can be a little doggy
If you are running a remote GUI
maybe with GB ethernet it's not i don't know
there is no need for vnc or remote x servers
I typed the wrong thing... meant to say with the GUI running remote. Not served.
via NML ?
I have no idea what the term is.. but something like that I imagine. I just followed the instructions to make the GUI run on a separate machine. Works well.
If you followed the remote GUI instructions, then you are using NML to pass data
Only issue is making sure the path to the gcode program directory is the same on both machines. NFS mounts work.
[09:12:41] <paul_c> http://www.balloonboard.org/
The programs/ dir is a known issue...
re: balloon. SA1110 is no longer in production.
Xscale is planned
...ever hear of the saying "Don't ASSume - it makes an ASS of U and ME"?
asdfqwega on The Odd Couple
asdfqwega Felix said it
...well, I suspected, but didn't replace, some wire on the HV supply for my laser...
...I think the guy who worked on this before me used audio wire instead of HV line.
Consequently, I have had some electrical problems, and smoked one of my Xylotex stepper drivers
asdfqwega was it regular or mentholated?
* asdfqwega give pfred1 a bilabial fricative - Pbbbbbbbbbbbbb! :P
* asdfqwega let the smoke out - and now is going to Xylotex hell
asdfqwega yeah see all of high tech runs on smoke and once you let the smoke out things no longer function
and you want to see how much smoke they pack in to those little gecko drives.
paul_c geckos have the unhealthy habit of smoking?
Only when you mistreat them like I did.
Was about to send you a note...
First build to boot and run
The HDD gets partitioned & formatted...
So anaconda is working?
up to a point...
Will we have the same partitioning flexibility we had with RH?
That will be nice.
It is barfing out in the early stages of the install though...
Looks like I'm missing a script somewhere.
Anaconda calls other scripts to handle specific tasks?
anaconda calls some scripts on the target installation to configure certain things
but in this case, it is trying to rename a file that does not exist.
Ouch. Debug hell!
well... At least the CD is building now - That is a big jump forward from the weekend.
You have some tools that help with that?
Also need to work on reducing the number of CDs in the set.
You want to package both source and bin?
Hadn't considered source packages..
because of the different ways that deb handles them?
nope - Just more CDs to generate
Could you fit all of the deb packages that make up Live-rc46 on a single cd with the installer?
Currently at 14 CDs for the binary only distro.
Right but there is stuff in there that none of us use.
Well, I just did something incredibly stupid
I just broke my laser
I'm going to leave now, before I get the urge to pick up a hammer
Sorry to hear that.
OK - Looks like something real screwball has happened here...
paul_c: That doesn't sound so good.
I'll figure it out in the morning.
I have to build some more packages & test ISOs with the BDI branding anyway
Catch you later. Thanks for all your work on this, Paul.
* alex_joni is back
...or not, as the case may be.
* asdfqwega is going to see if he can get through the morning without any more catastrophic events
* paul_c replies to list mails..
asdfqwega: sorry about your laser...
Yeah, so am I :P
Well, this is the kind of thing you run into with used equipment...even if I've been doing extremely well so far
If I had just replaced the wire the first time around...but, shoulda coulda woulda.
I know the feeling..
buggerit - Looks like the NTL mail servers have gone tits up.
alex_joni: Oh, the kicked-in-the-gut kinda feeling?
Well, all is not lost: I'm going to start calling some laser tube repair shops...
Unfortunately, I'm out in the sticks...it every place I can find online is over 6 hours away
[snaps fingers] Dangit, I *knew* I should have taken those glass blowing correspondence courses...
lol... can't be that hard to learn
you take a chunk of molten glass and blow in it
and rotate it while doing so...
can't be harder than emc stuff :))
heh...I know, I'm fairly competent with my hands...however, the real problem comes with 1) the vacuum system 2) the laser gas mix 3) the different grade of glasses needed to make a vacuum-tight glass-metal seal.
Yeah, I'll use some duck tape. C'mere!
* asdfqwega tapes alex_joni to his chair
I am already...
my boss did that
I can learn and do practically anything...it's just those little details of cost and materials that get in the way :(
* asdfqwega dives into his pile of computer junk to find stuff for eBay
* an0n_ sighs
Pinin' for the fijords?
* asdfqwega can't spell
* an0n_ just stress renewed 2 domains
Well, if you need some more stress to do a third, I have a barrow-load here you can have
give me your cc
and I'll renew all of them for you
Ha! I'm not falling for that...again
well, I am not paying your domains either..
* asdfqwega prods les
Dang, have to reboot
pfred1 is now known as pfred1_
Hi. How you doing today?
* rayh was of reading my mail.