* alex_joni is leaving soon...
* paul_c is back
I was just preparing to write you an e-mail...
but this saves my time ;)
* paul_c can go again...
so: in emc.ini there are some relative links (e.g. configs/emc.nml, configs/emc.var)
an email might be better - Gives us a chance to think responses through...
ok... I'll mail you too...
There isn't any paths spec'ed in the sample emc.ini
hmmm... are you sure?
I see configs/emc.nml and configs/emc.var
PARAMETER_FILE = emc.var
The only one I see is doc/help.txt
well... not good ;)
that was what I did...
if you look at emc2 (HEAD) or (cvs up on autoconf) you will see PARAMETER_FILE = configs/emc.var
PARAMETER_FILE = $EMC2CONFIGDIR/emc.var
yup... that's what zwisk did
and $EMC2CONFIGDIR gets replaced by make install
* paul_c needs to have a word with zwisk on that then....
It will break if/when a compiled ap tries to parse it.
but before parsing there is a make install needed
need to get away from the /bin/bash thinking.
that's why run-in-place is broken (you need a make test first)
ok.. I see it like this...
take from zwisk the whole dirs stuff
and include that to the make install I did
(no altering of any scripts)
right now (both my version and zwisks uses emc.conf for finding out what is where)
and emc.conf gets created by ./configure
which only works if you use a bash script to launch everything
I gotta run...
I'll send you an e-mail.. ok?
and we'll take it from there
ha the local isp's chat room is going down since they are out of business
I will host a rabun county chat room
these guys never heard of yahoo groops
irc style or web based ?
irc stle might eat up some of my bandwidth
the bandwith of even a very active IRC channel is prob very low
I'm currently downloading Dedian (all of it), and it isn't impacting on the irc latency
yes I am running a stepper moter control program right now on the same computer!
anyway...I will host the site and have the entire Acme Brinworks customer base
I won't spam 'em though
IRC is a simple text based protocol...
now if it was voice chat...that would eat up major bandwidth
but not text
Cooo... No there's an idea...
voip chat room.
it works really good...my kid uses it
what's it called....
forgot the name
gotta set up voip and see how it works sometime
yes that would be neat
grrr my stepper program locks up sometimes in !%^&$ Windows
time for linux ?
oh yeah....but the salesmen have W2000 on their laptops
But I am working on the money guys for Linux/RTAI factory automation
bit of a hard sell
use language they understand - no licencing costs
They prob get kickbacks/perks from the closed source automation vendors
no lock in on proprietory hardware or software
I think those arguments will sell to the right people
like the finance guys
multiple source for low cost hardware
complete control over software
and higher system security
(no need to have web browsers on PC based controls)
hmmm I think I need to get you in there to make the pitch
Right now I am talking to engineers...
need to go much higher up
I want to make a presentation when I go up there
I sure don't want to go but it looks like I have to
Need to settle on a plant visit fee schedule
$1000/day is typical
as little as that ?
sounds like a lot but one doesn't get to keep that much
Is that plus expenses ?
so it kinda gets whittled away
OK - That puts me at a disadvantage then
it can be negotiated
I used to spend RIDICULOUS amounts when traveling as an employee
probably looking at $1200 - $1500 just to fly out from Heathrow
I recall a dinner bill of $600 once
I think travel stuff could be taken care of if they can be convinced to go with the program
or even before
Are you comfortable giving dog and pony shows to groups?
Is there any more to the "setting up a linux based production line" than just a vauge concept ?
* paul_c can do presentations - But NOT with powerpoint !
no powerpoint though....heh...I hate powerpoint
haha that crossed in the airwaves...we were thinking the same thing
pwerpoint is like watching paint dry
I suppose it is a vague concept
[02:14:15] <paul_c> http://www.norvig.com/Gettysburg/
haw that cracks me up
gotta save that
You want to here the Churchill PP presentation
haw those dumb ass bar charts heheh
[02:19:07] <paul_c> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/rams/mon1545.ram
durn windows media player can't do .ram
let me try something else
outta luck...no joy on Quicktime
oh welll...hmmm having spam popups that won't close (not from your link)
I am gonna get off for a while to blast the spyware
bet that was what crashed my stepper program
When you have a better defined "game plan" for this automation project, I can give you a hand putting a Bean Counter's report together
back in a while
03cradek * 10emc/src/emcplot3d/emcplot3d.cc: another arc fix: arcs like g0x0y0z0/g2x0y0i.5j0z1 were wrong.
Hey Paul. What's up?
Oh.... putting together a package list for KDE
still there paul?
11:43:50 < paul_c> Oh.... putting together a package list for KDE
he was here 45 mins ago
I wonder if you could test the B2 Blog I just set up
sure I'll have a look
[04:46:27] <les> http://lmwatts.com/v-web/b2/
it looks fine from here
there's a cute bear
want me to leave a comment?
should be good for quickly showing pictures etc while in irc
that bear was in my back yard...
I have 3 SQL databases with my webhosting account
so I did a blog, a realtime chat, and a community BB
for the comments, I think the date and time should be more clear: have the month spelled out so it's unambiguous, and a timezone on the time
I will have to lose one if I put on an online shopping cart
that's the only complaint I can come up with :-)
Yeah I have to work on the appearance...but must read the B2 docs
just set it up 15 min ago
yeah, it's plain, but there's nothing wrong with plain
(I am using Mozilla 1.7)
the B2 is on the webhost server so I will have to see how much I can change it
same with the php chat and bb
it's no big deal, but having the date written DD.MM.YY and the timezone in the US is an odd combination
they also have x7 chat...not familiar with it
all web based chats are a terrible idea
I think I can easily fix the date formats etc from the control panel
irc is for chatting, usenet is for threaded messages, anything else is an abomination
yeah....It may eat up too much of my bandwidth
irc uses very little bandwidth
but I did the bb to replace the local isp one here...they are closing down
I was asked if I would host one
could do yahoo groups but to much work filtering spam
people seem to like webbbses instead of usenet
One company I know uses a local news server instead of a webbbs
they don't distribute or receive any messages
people can use their web browser's news interface as news://the.site/ if they must use a web browser
it seems to work well
well this isp was charging unsuspecting locals $100/mo to "administer" commercial websites
they better do a lot for that price (reliable backups for instance)
so I am signing up people to $7/month ipowerweb and showing them how to use cuteftp etc so they can do their own site
they didn't do anything...they were just reselling
rather than resell I am just charging a one time setup fee
but they are happy with that compared to years @ 100/mo
everyone wants to use their frontpage publisher wizard, not ftp
I will just give them cuteftp...and make it look like Windows Explorer
they won't even know what ftp is
they can just drag n drop
let me know how that goes...
I know frontpage used to want server extensions so the user can push the "publish `My Website'" button
but I've been out of the webserver business for ages
I think it has reached the point where most non-technical folks can easily manage a web sitee
I need to find a kid to do the initial pages
I just use word and prune out all the extensions and MS crap
anyway, thanks for the blog check. Out to the shop for me!
paul: how are you?
Now that I have Debian mirrored locally...
Taken a few days to get all of it.
* rayh dreams of having enough connection to get it all in a few days -- years it would take here!
paul_c: Smithy is testing with the machine today. Install went well.
paul_c: Did you come to terms with python and anaconda?
I know what the problem with anaconda is at compile time...
Me and python have reached an agreement
paul_c: got my last e-mail ?
If it doesn't bite me, I won't delete it.
alex_joni: Yes - Having a little think about the answer.
Didn't get anything from you, Paul.
paul_c: no hurry...
I hope I'll get online later tonight... (if not.. tomorrow morning...)
oops. Not reading right yet, more coffee.
<Homer mode> Hmmmm... Coffee.. whahoo - Donuts </Homer mode>
I'm out of the office for today...