paul_c, I was just looking for any word on the smithy cd.
* paul_c was outside for a breath of fresh air...
Tried doing some work on the rc12 image you had kindly transfered
but found the file was corrupt
What do you need from me
trying to work and read at the same time, fell out of my chair
uploaded a fresh image to the Smithy box
Just needs testing and results reported back.
does this give you reports?
what kind of testing do you want me to do on the box. I am an amature that doesn't know what he is doing
Need you guys to burn a CD and let me know if it is OK, or if anything needs changing
great, I will do this right away and get back to you.
the image is in /home/smithy
Is this the same rc12 that you need burned
being done right now. will let you know
As a side note...
Have finished cleaning up the sources and now have something that (should) compile cleanly every time.
Got a few changes I would like to make that should improve the reliablity
thats no fun, without all kinds of problems we will be out of a job
better to have happy customers
yeah they write the paychecks
With a cut down code base, what changes do you guys need/want ?
At the moment we just need something that we can ship. We are about to lose two customers if we don't get them something soon.
Did you put a cd writing program on the cd?
Do an install from the latest CD, and if needs be, I can ssh into them to make any last minute tweaks
Did you want cdrecord on the disk ?
and/or a GUI front end
well... gotta go
not sure yet will look at what you got
Catch you later alex_joni
bye tony ;)
03paul_c * 10rcslib/etc/generic.def: Short term fix to allow the compile farm to build
paul_c, there are a couple of things. The sound comes up a warning because the boxes dont have any.
The help screens need to be disables for the desktop. These come up first thing when it starts to boot up
EMC start up didn't work.
After looking around the generic ran so I changed the the ini to use tkemc instead of smini and that worked.
Can emc start up in full screen mode with the terminal running in the background unseen?
On the install menu can it be set to automatically partition the hard drive. we wont be running any other systems on these boxes so partitioning will only have to be a default
the boot screen doesn't work after loading onto the computer. it goes back to verbose mode
The Webber Icon disapeared upon loading it to the hard drive and there is no icon for emc in case someone closes it out and needs to reopen it
I think that is all I can see right now.'
running out for lunch. be back in about 1/2 hour
Hi Paul, I hope that you are not wasting a second on thinking about EBOs speaking !!! Those people disappear as fast as they had appeared. Hot air, nothing more. In this project we don't need quick changes, all the steps hat to be done carfuly. And specialy we don't need hotheads
Thanks for the supportive words.
I have seen this since his first mails in the list, but i thing you too
Thanks for your great work on EMC and for fixing my code and problems all the time :-)
I try to help where I can.
jep, i think everybody knows that, the only one how not is ....
Hmmm, i have forgotten his name ;-)
don't want to appear to be ignoring you Imperator_
Got a couple of problems to fix for someone...
no problem paul
Hmmm... looks like trp is having a very long lunch break.
sorry the phones have been ringing off the hook
I cant read type and talk on the phone at the same time. I'll hurt myself.
'Allo, trp, since you're here too
hello wont be here long. almost quiting time
take a long lunch and go home early. this is the life
Not me...no rest for the wicked
but sometimes I do pass out on my keyboard
(belated) Hello asdfqwega
getting over run by wild turkeys yet ?
ha no but I am an entry level production worker in the spray booth
need help now
as in employees or with EMC ?
but... I also have the factory automation job to do for my sensor
still thinking of RTLinux for that and a work permit for you
* paul_c would jump at the chance to work in Georgia
but I think US.gov might object
haw ...pity as I think I will make the product in Chicago
no labour force here...
thought there were loads of unemployed in GA
yes in atlalanta
It is really not supposed to be my call where the thing is made but...
If I don't wan't to go there it won't be made there
I can think of nicer places than Chicago
We have not decided where it really will be...but the parent company is in Chicago...
all over the world too
So it would probably make sense to use an existing plant
Like my heater stuff made on your side of the pond
well an existing space...but all new facilities
and I want it to be RTLinux
not RTAI ?
that would be fine... I was saying RTLinux in the generic sense
What ever works and is ROCK SOLID
OK... That rules out some of the 2.6 kernels
You would know...
2.4 series with the rtai patches is pretty reliable
Not tried RTLinux-3.x with 2.4
Well if I convinced them to set up a Linux factory automation system and it turned out buggy...
I would have my head on a plate
and...you could make sure things were reliable right?
I can do "idiot resistant"
and "fault tolerant"
um...reliable means 24/7 with mmmm one crash a month max
but I keep emc up and running for ages here...no problem at all
course I am comparing to windows
Rebooted a box the other day that had an up time of 152 days
well gotta go and get some food...my dad just drove up from Fl
whilst it wasn't running EMC, it was using the same kernel
I think it can work
well back later
* paul_c thinks EMC would need some small changes to be assured of long up times
Regards to your Father
he says thanks ...later
* paul_c heads off to bed.
not a lot..
waiting for the 'mercuns to wake up.
I'm already sleepy... ;)
I just got to eat something for today...
I was very busy this morning.. had to weld some parts
* paul_c ovoids welding for pay
did some testing wth rtlinux-3.0 and the new configure after you had gone...
We need to rethink how the configs are extracted
hmmm... not working?
* alex_joni really likes to weld...
* alex_joni really likes to weld... but only with a welding robot ;)
If RTLinux has been compiled but not installed (with "make install") rtl-config fails
so we need to either re-work the data extraction or spit out a warning
yup... I think warning is ok
or maybe instruct the user: "RT signatures not found. Maybe you forgot 'make install' in the RT source dir"
or... for RTLinux : you should execute ./configure make make install in the RTLinux sourcedir
or... for RTAI: you should execute ./configure make configure, make, make dev, make install, make install_rt_devel, make install_runtime in the RTAI sourcedir
I'll have a little think about it...
For RTAI, I would be inclined to either use another method or advise an upgrade
well... maybe post a message on RTAI's group.. what is their favorite approach
I think the response would be Upgrade
good morning paul_c, just climbing into the chair with a cup of coffee.
well.. I don't think the regular user appreciates an upgrade message after he spent a few days to install an older RTAI....
I know when I started to check for RT for emc, I visited RTAI's site...
and I found no notice that says... if you can use RTAI-version
so I went with rtai-24.1.12 simply because the install procedure was stated inside some .pdf (integrator if my memory serves me well... usually it fails ;)
There are ways round it...
I'll have a look after lunch.
03paul_c 07auto_configure_0_1 * 10emc2/ (configure configure.in): Check version.h for the kernel UTS-Version rather than trusting uname to return the correct one.