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[01:46:53] <jepler> hm, anyone here know how to use gmoccapy? In master branch, configs/sim/gmoccapy/gmoccapy.ini, the "max velocity" slider is stuck at 0.0 and won't budge...
[01:47:19] <jepler> 2.7 is OK, the slider goes up to 30 or maybe 552.756 (it shows two numbers)
[01:47:49] <jepler> I was trying to test gmoccapy a tiny bit before pushing pippin's change, but it just doesn't work for me to actually run a program :-/ but it's the same before his changes afaict
[01:48:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 1910422 06linuxcnc Merge branch 'jepler/for-master/pippin88' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1910422
[01:48:57] <seb_kuzminsky> i've run gmoccapy once or twice, but it was a long time ago
[01:49:05] <seb_kuzminsky> and i only ran it a little bit
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[01:50:02] <jepler> I did figure out how to touch off and edit offsets, so that is good
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[01:50:17] <jepler> but I did a lot of "hover mouse and hope for tool tips" which is not so good for touchscreen users...
[01:50:43] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- [13linuxcnc] 15jepler commented on issue #33: Thanks for double checking. git can be tough for new users, and some of the ways we ask contributors to use git require even more knowledge. 02https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/33#issuecomment-227319483
[01:54:33] <seb_kuzminsky> i just got this during "make -j20" in master: http://paste.debian.net/740452/
[01:54:36] <seb_kuzminsky> anyone seen it?
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[01:58:14] <jepler> (what's pyui?)
[01:58:32] <seb_kuzminsky> i'd never heard of it until now
[01:58:44] <seb_kuzminsky> the directory's got 2 commits from cmorley
[01:59:02] <seb_kuzminsky> from about 6 months ago
[01:59:06] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: I'm pretty sure that if I go looking for it I can find it :) try starting with a clean source directory and just invoke make with ../lib/python/pyui/panelui_spec.ini or ../lib/python/pyui/_panelui.ini
[01:59:50] <jepler> normally I am guessing the target for installing python files just above it in its submakefile gets invoked first by good fortune
[01:59:52] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, don't spend your time on it, i'll look into it
[02:00:05] <jepler> the $(Q)mkdir just needs to be copied down into all the rules that copy files into that directory
[02:00:13] <jepler> and/or somebody could ream out our whole build system and we'd thank them
[02:00:16] <seb_kuzminsky> heh ok
[02:00:18] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- [13linuxcnc] 15cradek closed pull request #77: Corrected gmoccapy typos (06master...06LCNCScreen) 02https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/77
[02:00:31] <cradek> I did?
[02:00:41] <cradek> how on earth did I do that
[02:00:46] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 68d7d86 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/jepler/master/nicokid-stepconf' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=68d7d86
[02:00:46] <jepler> cradek: it's always you, because you do the pushes to githib
[02:00:46] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master a2b7244 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/stepconf/build_HAL.py stepconf: Always write postgui_call_list.hal * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a2b7244
[02:00:55] <cradek> oh
[02:01:03] <jepler> cradek: .. it looks at whose ssh key is used to perform the push that closes a bug or PR
[02:01:39] <cradek> magic comments say what to close?
[02:02:19] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah
[02:02:37] <seb_kuzminsky> err, in that case it was probably because the commits matched the commits in the PR
[02:03:00] <seb_kuzminsky> you can close issuses by saying "Closes #xxx" or "Fixes" or some variants of that
[02:03:43] <seb_kuzminsky> https://help.github.com/articles/closing-issues-via-commit-messages/
[02:05:49] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- [13linuxcnc] 15jepler commented on issue #77: Thank you for your contribution. Your improvements will be part of a future version of LinuxCNC. 02https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/77#issuecomment-227321440
[02:06:31] <jepler> wow we have 41 closed pull requests over all time
[02:07:05] <seb_kuzminsky> what percentage of them were closed by you?
[02:07:30] <jepler> wellll
[02:07:35] <jepler> some were closed by cradek :)
[02:07:51] <cradek> bah
[02:11:31] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 9472866 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/pyui/Submakefile fix a parallel build problem with pyui * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=9472866
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[02:12:16] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- [13linuxcnc] 15cradek closed pull request #71: Jepler/master/nicokid stepconf (06master...06jepler/master/nicokid-stepconf) 02https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/71
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[02:17:15] <KGB-wlo> push to showcase branch: http://wlo-test.highlab.com/showcase
[02:17:21] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- [13wlo] 15jepler 04force-pushed 06showcase from 1446c0f16 to 1494e8b97: 02https://github.com/LinuxCNC/wlo/commits/showcase
[02:17:21] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- 13wlo/06showcase 141030259 15Jeff Epler: Add a github link in the footer
[02:17:21] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- 13wlo/06showcase 14f04eb84 15Jeff Epler: tweak heading sizes...
[02:17:21] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- 13wlo/06showcase 14999401f 15Jeff Epler: remove padding...
[02:17:53] <linuxcnc-build> build #2409 of 1403.rip-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1403.rip-wheezy-amd64/builds/2409 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, pippin88 <pippin88@imagineant.com>
[02:18:38] <jepler> Running test: /home/buildslave/emc2-buildbot/wheezy-amd64/rip-wheezy-amd64/build/tests/halmodule.1
[02:18:41] <jepler> Note: Using POSIX non-realtime
[02:18:44] <jepler> hum I wonder what happened here
[02:18:46] <jepler> pass
[02:18:49] <jepler> *** /home/buildslave/emc2-buildbot/wheezy-amd64/rip-wheezy-amd64/build/tests/halmodule.1: FAIL: test run exited with 1
[02:18:52] <jepler> doesn't seem like the test is relevant to anything in those commits!
[02:21:53] <linuxcnc-build> build #4262 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/4262 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, pippin88 <pippin88@imagineant.com>
[02:22:52] <jepler> any last thoughts before I make the showcase branch live?
[02:23:17] <seb_kuzminsky> i say go!
[02:25:03] <jepler> balms away
[02:25:12] <KGB-wlo> push to master branch: http://linuxcnc.org/
[02:25:14] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- [13wlo] 15jepler pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://github.com/LinuxCNC/wlo/commit/1efb1a2a9d847beab5387c8734410b6314089196
[02:25:15] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- 13wlo/06master 141efb1a2 15Jeff Epler: Merge branch 'showcase'
[02:25:25] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: Jun 20 20:08:26 wheezy-amd64 kernel: [5966699.203276] hrtimer: interrupt took 12777005 ns
[02:25:29] <jepler> oh whoops, that turns out to be a trademarked mascara removal product
[02:25:53] <seb_kuzminsky> imma chalk it up to a VM timewarp glitch
[02:26:35] <jepler> oh whoops, missed some of the explanatory text
[02:26:38] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: aww, you didnt make it say "fork us on github", like the cool kids do
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[02:29:12] <KGB-wlo> push to master branch: http://linuxcnc.org/
[02:29:21] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- [13wlo] 15jepler pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://github.com/LinuxCNC/wlo/commit/5a412cf505d05947d8e3acb71244b0e28c9f577f
[02:29:21] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- 13wlo/06master 145a412cf 15Jeff Epler: fix the submitting-to-showcase text, as workshopped on IRC
[02:29:30] <Roguish> seb_kuziminsky and jepler. I briefly saw a note that the build server ran out of disc space. Does it need additional discs? Tell me where and to whom to send my donation $$$
[02:29:56] <seb_kuzminsky> i appreciate the offer
[02:30:05] <seb_kuzminsky> but i just took care of it
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[02:30:44] <Roguish> Ok, thanks. just remember if you need $$ help, just speak up.
[02:30:45] <seb_kuzminsky> turns out i had some old VMs lying around on the buildserver that were no longer useful, i removed them and gave the space to the buildmaster and we're goog agin :-)
[02:31:00] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks Roguish, i very much appreciate it
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[02:35:32] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: it looks funny that Showcase is singular
[02:35:46] <seb_kuzminsky> http://linuxcnc.org/showcase/ says "All Showcase"
[02:35:53] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe it should be Showcases?
[02:36:20] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe i should have said this when you asked for comments, instead of after the merge?
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[02:40:26] <KGB-wlo> push to master branch: http://linuxcnc.org/
[02:40:35] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- [13wlo] 15SebKuzminsky pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://github.com/LinuxCNC/wlo/commit/2f028b355f93572e0dc986a08b6e573ef715d32c
[02:40:35] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- 13wlo/06master 142f028b3 15Sebastian Kuzminsky: make it "Showcases", plural, where appropriate
[02:41:01] <jepler> You know, earlier I was going to praise jekyll
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[02:41:18] <jepler> but then I had to work around a bug when I tested adding a second showcase entry https://github.com/Shopify/liquid/pull/456
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[02:43:24] <seb_kuzminsky> huh, there's some really cool stuff in forum/show-you-stuff
[02:47:08] <jepler> I am tempted to do the captive nut one
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[02:47:21] <jepler> that one looks super nice!
[02:48:13] <seb_kuzminsky> wow, yeah
[02:48:48] <seb_kuzminsky> the Showcase rules currently only accept machines that demonstrate how cool and flexible linuxcnc is
[02:49:08] <seb_kuzminsky> that nut project makes me want to relax the rules to also accept cool things made with machines running linuxcnc
[02:49:31] <jepler> umm maybe the rule I wrote doesn't mean what I think it meant
[02:49:51] <jepler> I think that things made on the machines count
[02:50:03] <jepler> it's "you can buy this board for $99" or "you can buy this mill for $9,999" that I don't want
[02:51:32] <seb_kuzminsky> agree 100%
[02:51:33] <jepler> so help me write the words I mean!
[02:51:40] <seb_kuzminsky> the wooden flowers one is cool too
[02:52:00] <jepler> yes, the good news is we have a *lot* of fodder for this new website feature
[02:54:37] <jepler> goodnight, feel free to work on the wording, or we can wait for later.
[02:56:00] <jepler> oh I'd add to the list of things that are good for showcase: Free and Open Source software that works with LinuxCNC (so that engraving software as a f'rinstance), but I'd start with machines and the objects made on them
[02:56:43] <KGB-wlo> push to master branch: http://linuxcnc.org/
[02:56:50] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- [13wlo] 15jepler pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02https://github.com/LinuxCNC/wlo/commit/1736dda14e8451bbdf6e0a890f2a0007242945a1
[02:56:50] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- 13wlo/06master 141736dda 15Jeff Epler: showcase: fix post order...
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[04:01:45] <seb_kuzminsky> huh, uspace doesn't need memory locking? that seems dangerous
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[05:19:38] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/build-docs fa33cbe 06linuxcnc 10(5 files in 2 dirs) docs: add a document describing how to build LinuxCNC * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa33cbe
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[06:02:43] <seb_kuzminsky> http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/doc/scratch/v2.8.0~pre1~seb-master-build-docs~fa33cbe/html/code/building-linuxcnc.html
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[06:52:52] <linuxcnc-build> build #417 of 4017.5.deb-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4017.5.deb-wheezy-armhf/builds/417 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[06:56:28] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/master/build-docs 2a73cdd 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/code/building-linuxcnc.txt docs: build instructions reorg * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2a73cdd
[06:57:18] <seb_kuzminsky> dont look at the document i linked to above, look at the one i just pushed instead
[06:59:18] <seb_kuzminsky> it'll be here: http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/doc/scratch/v2.8.0~pre1~seb-master-build-docs~2a73cdd/html/code/building-linuxcnc.html
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[08:19:53] <rushabh> Hi
[08:21:57] <rushabh> We do not get current G5x offset modifications if we are on other G5x. If currently I've G54 co-sys and run MDI command that will modify G56; There are updates for this modifications.
[08:22:19] <rushabh> Do we need to have this updates up to emcstatus ?
[08:23:18] <rushabh> If currently I've G54 co-sys and run MDI command that will modify G56; There are **NO** updates for this modifications.
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[11:47:47] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: ??
[11:47:47] <jepler> src/rtapi/uspace_rtapi_app.cc: res = mlockall(MCL_CURRENT | MCL_FUTURE);
[11:48:04] <jepler> rtapi app does request that all its memory allocations be locked
[11:48:33] <jepler> stat.shm_perm.mode |= SHM_LOCKED;
[11:48:33] <jepler> res = shmctl(shmem->id, IPC_SET, &stat);
[11:48:43] <jepler> as well as all mapped sysv shared memory segments
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[11:58:48] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: you should recommend to use a separate file in /etc/security/limits.d, rather than adding a line to limits.conf
[11:59:15] <jepler> I'm pretty sure I did a survey and limits.d is available on anything we support with our master branch, and maybe even 2.7.
[12:05:02] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: all that said, a subsequent shmctl IPC_STAT doesn't have the SHM_LOCKED flag in shm_perm.mode even inside rtapi_app so it's possible there's a bug here
[12:05:16] <jepler> (besides what I pasted above, rtapi_app also raises its own max shared memory to 'unlimited')
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[12:21:35] <jepler> so yes there's a bug
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[13:45:34] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: what i meant was, with uspace, even with make setuid, you can run without memlock 20480
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[13:55:28] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: rtapi_app uses its root powers to raise its own locked memory limit
[13:56:44] <jepler> so, except for this bug about setting SHM_LOCKED wrong, all memory used by rtapi_app should end up properly locked without raising the user's locked memory limit
[14:03:49] <seb_kuzminsky> aha
[14:04:06] <seb_kuzminsky> ok great, i'll note something about that in the right section
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[14:24:53] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: and with rtai we can't raise the memlock limit ourselves because there's no setuid rtapi_app
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[16:18:48] <andypugh> jepler: Perhaps my hobbing setup would be a useful showcase? I can’t decide between the Mini-Mill one that is clearly just done by config or the one that is actually a good hobber :-)
[16:19:48] <andypugh> I need someone with a live-spindle lathe to use the multi-spindle feature.
[16:21:10] <archivist> we need to convince robh to retrofit his citizen or me some cash to retofit the bechler
[16:21:34] <jepler> andypugh: you have some great stuff that I would like to see in the showcase
[16:22:35] <jepler> I figure a daily pace of showcase updates is too much to sustain, so in my head I am hoping that we update it weekly..
[16:24:10] <archivist> what is this showcase you speak of
[16:24:35] <jepler> archivist: it's a new thing on the front page of the linuxcnc.org website
[16:25:09] <jepler> the idea is to show off user machines and stuff users make
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[16:33:05] <archivist> I was struggling to count steppers there, 5 on the text 6 on the bench and one on top of the box and 6 drives
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[16:35:05] <andypugh> archivist: It says in the description on Youtube. 7 steppers
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[16:51:05] <jepler> something about it being a gantry too
[16:51:13] <jepler> but yeah, counting wasn't going well for me
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[21:27:11] <jepler> I'm glad norbert pushed that to a scratch monkey^Wbranch
[21:27:26] <jepler> I hope he sees and understands that the "hallib" symlink he added is not OK
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[21:53:20] <dgarr> re dev mail list post about MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY, etc, does this look like appropriate soln? http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/initraj.txt
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[22:00:58] <dgarr> jepler: pickconfig.tcl creates a symbolic link for hallib for the the user, the in-tree link was likely a convenience for running rip and not intended
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[22:23:08] <jepler> dgarr: re hallib, I see. In that case, the file should be listed in a .gitignore file if possible, so that it reduces the chances that someone accidentally adds it
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[22:24:35] <andypugh> dgarr: Seems right, unless we take the other alternative of using MAX_VELOCITY rather than MAX_LINEAR :-)
[22:24:56] <andypugh> Changing the update script is easy enough.
[22:25:47] <andypugh> I guess that merging multspindle with JA is a step too far right now? Probably something for the next release level, if ever.
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[22:27:50] <dgarr> jepler: i meant to say 'a convenience for the submitter' so yes -- he might want it in a .gitignore
[22:30:05] <dgarr> andypugh: i will post that message and work on upating .ini,.inc files in tree, i trust you won't wait 8years for multispindle
[22:30:52] <andypugh> multispindle is attracting almost as little interest as the tool table work I did.
[22:33:32] <dgarr> http://cashflowdiary.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/if-you-build-it.jpg
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[22:40:00] <mozmck> andy, what is the tool table work you did? So far I have not used a tool table, but I might in the future.
[22:40:18] <JT-Shop> I have an application coming up for multiple spindles...
[22:40:40] <JT-Shop> 3-4 spindles IIRC
[22:43:05] <JT-Shop> mozmck: he made a database for tools, quite ingenious his work
[22:43:20] <mozmck> I see. where is that?
[22:43:54] <mozmck> I'd love to have a VMC with a toolchanger some day - and then I would probably get a lot more interested in tool tables and all.
[22:44:12] <andypugh> mozmck: This was years ago. There seeemed to be an opinion that the tool tabe was too inflexible and limited in size, so (in conjunction with Tormach) I developed a database for tools, that (being a database) users could add their own fields to. It fixed a lot of the problems (like using pocket zero to mean “the tool is in the spindle”. It supported the idea that lots of tools could share the same pocket, an
[22:44:13] <andypugh> that lots of tools could share the same number (you don’t necessarily care _which_ 6mm end mill you get). And it supported mutliple spindles and multiple tool carousels (the idea was to track every tool in the factory, and pick an available tool from the available carousel). All quite elabourate. And nobody even tried it out as far as I know.
[22:45:02] <andypugh> mozmck: Here is the Schema: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ToolDatabase
[22:45:03] <mozmck> not even tormach?
[22:45:15] <andypugh> No, they just nade the NML message bigger.
[22:45:54] <mozmck> bummer. maybe it was too elaborate!
[22:49:45] <andypugh> I might come back to it. it dovetails nicely with multispindle.
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[23:15:12] <micges> andypugh: it's perfect for my retrofit of morbidelli author 504 wood center with 42 tools
[23:15:37] <micges> andypugh: where is the code for it?
[23:15:40] <andypugh> Which one?
[23:16:14] <micges> for this tool table support
[23:16:31] <andypugh> 42 tools is OK with current LInuxCNC, you realise?
[23:17:13] <micges> yes I do
[23:17:38] <andypugh> This is the branch, but it’s been dormant for 3 years: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/tree/andypugh/tooltable
[23:19:18] <andypugh> I can’t remember what is in there, even
[23:21:15] <andypugh> micges: database definitions are here: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/tree/andypugh/tooltable/share/sql
[23:21:28] <andypugh> But I never got as far as making the tool editor understand it.
[23:21:33] <micges> thanks
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[23:59:05] <andypugh> Night all.
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