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[00:15:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes14 c635f53 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py axis.py set_motion_teleop in update() polling JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c635f53
[00:15:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes14 441f8c5 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/axis/minimal_xyz.ini 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py axis.py: stricter reqmts for jog sliders JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=441f8c5
[00:15:12] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes14 cc730c1 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/axis/ldelta_demo.ini ldelta_demo.ini fix old batch edit errors JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=cc730c1
[00:31:11] <jepler> I haven't tried triggering packet errors that way
[00:31:42] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: thank you
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[00:45:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03andypugh 05joints_axes14 5888439 06linuxcnc 10scripts/update_ini update_ini: Handle locking indexers * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5888439
[00:45:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03andypugh 05joints_axes14 5e60946 06linuxcnc Merge branch 'joints_axes14' of ssh://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc into joints_axes14 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5e60946
[00:49:17] <skunkworks> andypugh, are you still state side?
[00:49:49] <andypugh> Yes
[00:51:39] <skunkworks> did you see your handy work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXLF0u-tdT0
[01:03:12] <skunkworks> found a few loose connections and miss-adjusted switches..
[01:06:03] <andypugh> Cool that it is working.
[01:06:22] <andypugh> 2100. Best find some dinner before the bar closes :)
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[01:14:46] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- [13linuxcnc] 15andypugh closed issue #44: ja: motion's joint locking hal pins missing 02
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/44
[01:15:16] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- [13linuxcnc] 15andypugh reopened issue #44: ja: motion's joint locking hal pins missing 02
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/44
[01:17:24] -linuxcnc-github:#linuxcnc-devel- [13linuxcnc] 15andypugh commented on issue #44: The pins and INI entries are now created, commit 588843995c85aa67a24ca26c9221cf57930b005d 02
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/44#issuecomment-219260433
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[01:51:13] <skunkworks> does andy not know in the USA bars are open til 2am? or maybe that is just WI
[02:08:39] <Tom_itx> i think that's a pretty standard US thing
[02:09:11] <Tom_itx> i'm not sure i'd be caught in downtown Detroit at that time though
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[05:09:48] <andypugh> This is wierd
[05:12:02] <andypugh> I messed up my recent git push. I don’t really know how. The push —dry-run said I needed to pull first, I pulled and that brought up pico asking me to edit a merge report, I quit out of that, and to see where I was, did another dry run, that was happy, I looked at the log of the dry run, that looked good, I pushed and ended up pushing a merge.
[05:13:49] <andypugh> The strange thing is that gitweb / glo shows that the extra commit (the merge) did nothing and changed nothing, but github insists that i changed three files.
[05:14:18] <andypugh> Can sombody cofirm or deny that I messed things up?
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[12:31:08] <jepler_> andypugh: I think everything is just fine.
[13:10:09] <emcPT> Any special reason (except performance) of not using a larger tool capability? Currently it is defined in #define CANON_POCKETS_MAX 56
[13:10:31] <emcPT> in emctool.h
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[13:36:38] <archivist> emcPT, iirc it has to fit in an nml message, one tool at a time would seem more sensible to me in the message
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[14:56:04] <cradek_> if you need to enlarge it, just enlarge the tool buffer in the nml file to fit
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[16:27:04] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler_: readline-license-check looks good for 2.7
[16:27:13] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks for keeping an eye on the lawyerly stuff
[16:27:52] <seb_kuzminsky> i want to make 2.7.5 soon, is anyone working on anything they want in the next 2.7 release?
[16:36:13] <jepler_> seb_kuzminsky: mozmck said he wishes my ethernet packet loss stuff would go in 2.7, but I would not hurry it in for a release.
[16:42:38] <seb_kuzminsky> it does seem like a good bugfix/improvement, but yeah let's let it simmer for a while before releasing
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[18:33:01] <emcPT> To increase the number of allowed tools, cradek wrote that it should be increased the tool buffer in the nml file.
[18:33:22] <emcPT> Inside src/libnml
[18:34:14] <emcPT> there are a lot of files and grep for tool or table does not output results that I can find where the buffer is created or limited
[18:43:54] <emcPT> got it
[18:44:36] <zeeshan> i really need a bit of guidance on how to find what portions of the source code control what
[18:44:51] <zeeshan> maybe someone can guide me through one example? it'd help a lot!
[18:45:33] <zeeshan> https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc
[18:45:42] <zeeshan> when i go here and i want to find the source code for the axis gui
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[18:45:54] <zeeshan> do i just search? or is there some master file that lists the locations of files?
[18:48:09] <emcPT> src/emc/usr_intf/ is where the user interfaces are
[18:48:18] <zeeshan> howd you know that?
[18:48:38] <emcPT> usr_intf says it all
[18:49:08] <emcPT> and you have a folder named axis in it
[18:49:22] <zeeshan> okay so most of the source code will be under src
[18:50:45] <zeeshan> i see a folder under share/axis also
[18:50:46] <zeeshan> and some .tcl files
[18:50:51] <emcPT> src = source, so yes. But do not take my word as accurate. I am like a very small fish here.
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[19:00:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 cbe6517 06linuxcnc fast forward * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=cbe6517
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[19:12:59] <zeeshan> axis-remote.py what is it used for?
[19:13:20] <zeeshan> i'm trying to track down why the shortcut ctrl+k stops working to clear the live plot
[19:17:09] <seb_kuzminsky> zeeshan: axis-remote is a little command-line utility that you can run to cause axis to perform some of its operations
[19:17:19] <seb_kuzminsky> think of it as a command-line remote-control for the axis-gui
[19:17:24] <zeeshan> ah
[19:17:54] <zeeshan> i see three plates where clear_live_plot command is called, axis-remote.py axis.py and axis.tcl (tcl setting up the key binding)
[19:17:59] <seb_kuzminsky> axis is spread across three or so files:
[19:18:02] <zeeshan> i have no clue why it stops working
[19:18:09] <seb_kuzminsky> src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py
[19:18:17] <zeeshan> *plates = places
[19:18:41] <seb_kuzminsky> src/emc/usr_intf/axis/extensions/emcmodule.cc
[19:19:36] <seb_kuzminsky> share/axis/tcl/axis.tcl
[19:19:44] <seb_kuzminsky> most of the GUI is in axis.tcl
[19:20:16] <seb_kuzminsky> the interface to linuxcnc is in emcmodule.cc (that's actually a reusable python module for interacting with linuxcnc, several guis use it)
[19:20:25] <seb_kuzminsky> and axis.py is most of the smarts of axis
[19:20:34] <zeeshan> okay
[19:21:31] <seb_kuzminsky> you're right that axis.tcl connects the gui operation of "ctrl-k" to the clear_live_plot function
[19:21:48] <zeeshan> im going to try to use axis-remote and call clear_live_plot
[19:21:50] <zeeshan> and see if it works from there
[19:21:56] <zeeshan> manually clicking on the menu triggers it
[19:22:04] <seb_kuzminsky> and you can see that axis.py implements the function itself
[19:22:05] <zeeshan> the shortcut seems to stop working after running a couple diff programs
[19:22:30] <seb_kuzminsky> by calling the live_plotter.clear() method
[19:22:56] <zeeshan> yes
[19:23:06] <zeeshan> i see it on 2310
[19:23:09] <seb_kuzminsky> which version of linuxcnc are you on?
[19:23:38] <zeeshan> ill need to double check, i think 2.7.3
[19:24:28] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, i'm just starting to work on a new 2.7 release so if this is a real bug in 2.7 it'd be great to fix it first
[19:24:47] <seb_kuzminsky> i appreciate that you're tracking down exactly what works and what doesn't
[19:25:23] <zeeshan> the hard part is trying to replicate it
[19:25:27] <seb_kuzminsky> i assume you have a git clone that you're working with?
[19:25:29] <zeeshan> i was hoping the source would help :)
[19:25:37] <zeeshan> no im using apt-get pkg
[19:26:32] <seb_kuzminsky> do you mean "apt-get source linuxcnc"? or are you looking at the installed axis.py and axis.tcl scripts that came when you ran "apt-get install linuxcnc"?
[19:26:47] <zeeshan> im looking at the github source for the source
[19:26:57] <zeeshan> is that the latest one?
[19:27:14] <seb_kuzminsky> ah, i see, yes, the latest version is available on github
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[19:31:36] <andypugh> This has me baffled:
http://codepad.org/oxmIyDYP
[19:32:11] <andypugh> It’s 100% consistent, it always gets all the joint0 and 2 of the joint4, but no others
[19:33:17] <andypugh> Perhaps I should try with a different “unlikely” character?
[19:33:38] <andypugh> (I am trying not to get false positives with hal signals)
[19:33:47] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: the %s substitution up in the definition of the subs dict happens when the dict is defined, not when it's evaluated, is that what you had in mind?
[19:34:01] <andypugh> Yes, that’s fine.
[19:34:36] <andypugh> (and even if it wasn’t, we would just see bad sunbsititutions, not missed ones, I think)
[19:38:01] <andypugh> I just changed to &temp and guess what? _different_ flaky behaviour!
[19:40:36] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: i just tried your program and input here (python 2.7.11) and it produced the expected output
[19:41:00] <andypugh> Interesting.
[19:42:45] <andypugh> race condition? consequence of being in a VM? Or maybe a consequence of being ipart of a bigger whole?
[19:43:21] <andypugh> Maybe the substitutions are being pipelined/paralelled?
[19:43:48] <andypugh> In my case the @temp subs happen as a second set after some previous subs.
[19:44:12] <andypugh> Let me give you a larger example
[19:44:35] <seb_kuzminsky> if it's a multithreaded program it could be a race, otherwise not
[19:44:54] <seb_kuzminsky> VMs "shouldn't" behave differently than bare-metal for this kind of thing
[19:45:23] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe the previous subs changed the string so the new subs dont match?
[19:45:47] <seb_kuzminsky> i'd be tempted to write the string to temporary files as it goes along the pipeline of subs and see that it's as expected after each step
[19:47:34] <andypugh> http://codepad.org/dnFSDUpX
[19:48:10] <andypugh> seb_kuzminsky: That’s a lot of strings to look at :-)
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[19:49:35] <andypugh> I sptted a type, “identitykins”
[19:50:06] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[19:50:13] <andypugh> (a problem with the sample code, not the real code)
[19:51:30] <andypugh> That mutable list of regexes would be a lot harder in C than it is in Python, wouldn’t it? :-)
[19:51:38] <zeeshan-mill> i lied im running 2.7.2
[19:57:04] <andypugh> seb_kuzminsky: Hang on, I think this is due to me getting mixed up. Looks like I failed to reset the input file at some point. (I have to copy the old config out of the backup before I run the conveter, looks like I forgot at some point)
[19:57:38] <seb_kuzminsky> aha
[19:57:58] <seb_kuzminsky> zeeshan-mill: what you're running on your mill and what you're looking at on github are probably different
[19:58:18] <seb_kuzminsky> zeeshan-mill: if you look at this page:
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc
[19:58:31] <seb_kuzminsky> up near the upper left it says "Branch: master"
[19:58:41] <seb_kuzminsky> so it's showing you the master branch
[19:59:04] <seb_kuzminsky> if you're running 2.7.2 i'd suggest first upgrading to the currentl 2.7 stable release, 2.7.4, and doing your debugging there
[19:59:36] <zeeshan-mill> yes im trying to dl 2.7.4
[19:59:57] <seb_kuzminsky> it should be a simple "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[20:00:57] <zeeshan-mill> master is the work in progress branch right?
[20:01:04] <zeeshan-mill> so its even more newer than 2.7.4
[20:01:17] <andypugh> seb_kuzminsky: No, whilst I did get a bit messed up, that wasnt the issue.
[20:01:43] <andypugh> master is not the most bleeding edge any more :-)
[20:02:44] <jepler_> master bleeds some, ja bleeds lots
[20:02:47] <andypugh> (In fact I am working on a styptic script for that bleeding edge)
[20:05:15] <seb_kuzminsky> zeeshan-mill: master is what will become the next stable version (2.8 or 3 or whatever)
[20:05:40] <seb_kuzminsky> zeeshan-mill: if there's a bug in 2.7.X, we need to fix it in the 27 branch and release a new stable release from that branch
[20:05:55] <seb_kuzminsky> then we merge 2.7 into master so master gets the fix too
[20:06:35] <zeeshan-mill> ah!
[20:18:44] <jepler_> emscripten is cool, too bad the debian package is unusable. I built my old anagram program (C++) to run fully in the browser, rather than going to the server for each search.
https://jepler.github.io/anagram/
[20:29:38] <andypugh> seb_kuzminsky: The writing of intermediate results certainly adds to the confusion :-)
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[20:54:38] <andypugh> seb_kuzminsky: I have the explanation, but not the answer. The dict is not enumerated in order. Adding a timestamp to the file names makes that clear:
http://codepad.org/Ifh0R2V8
[20:59:47] <andypugh> I don’t know why I assumed that the dict items were stored in sequence. I _could_ use a collections.OrderedDict object, but that seems overkill and requires Py2.7
[21:00:32] <andypugh> The answer is probably a second “phase 2’ dict.
[21:00:53] <jepler_> master branch requires 2.7 anyway
[21:01:19] <jepler_> you could also use a list-of-tuples or a tuple-of-tuples
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[21:02:14] <pcw_home> Yay! absolute encoder support in JA14 Thanks dgarr
[21:02:55] <pcw_home> will 2.8 release be based on JAn?
[21:03:03] <jepler_> pcw_home: we hope so but no commitment
[21:03:30] <pcw_home> big change
[21:05:21] <jepler_> fwiw I don't see any reason that patch is tied to JA
[21:05:27] <jepler_> the patch would be different for master than for JA
[21:06:18] <jepler_> but I don't think it would be any more subtle
[21:09:04] <andypugh> jepler_: A “phase2” dict is a very minor mod.
[21:09:34] <jepler_> andypugh: OK then
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[22:26:01] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler_: i think there are several things like that in ja (ie things that really should have gone into master instead)
[22:26:17] <seb_kuzminsky> that would make ja less daunting, as well as get earlier testing on those features
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[23:01:14] <skunkworks> it is a conspiracy to get ja into master..
[23:38:09] <andypugh> Shhh!
[23:38:16] <pcw_home> Thats funny about 1/2 of the pdf docs at
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/pdf/ are in French
[23:39:57] <andypugh> I think that is to be expected. You can’t see it because the fields are too narrow, but there are _es and _fr versions of most of them.
[23:41:16] <pcw_home> except for example there is only one hal manual and its in French
[23:42:07] <pcw_home> same with the integrators manual
[23:46:32] <pcw_home> not that I have anything against french...
[23:47:49] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03andypugh 05joints_axes14 45ccdfb 06linuxcnc 10scripts/update_ini update_ini: Tidy up the handling of the coordinates= param * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=45ccdfb
[23:49:51] <andypugh> Ah, Oui, ça c’est vraiment un peau wierd