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[00:56:20] <skunkworks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXLF0u-tdT0
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[01:06:44] <zlog> skunkworks: Log stored at http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2016-05-13.html
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[01:44:06] <jepler> https://emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/eth-sserial-recovers2.png
[01:44:29] <jepler> I'll leave this up overnight at 5% packet loss
[01:46:32] <jepler> the traces are, top to bottom: the sserial state machine resetting itself after each lost packet, a read-back watchdog output (so you can see it sticking in one state or another during reset), the counter of lost ethernet packets, and the counter of sserial errors; one error is accounted after each reset is complete, which is probably right. but more oddly, the error count is zeroed if a second los
[01:46:38] <jepler> t packet occurs at just the right time in the recovery process. that's weird.
[01:49:20] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/master/eth-packet-loss 42b212d 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/sserial.c hostmot2: sserial: avoid glitches when starting to run * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=42b212d
[01:49:20] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/master/eth-packet-loss 9eb6628 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/sserial.c hostmot2: sserial: avoid long wait after lost packet * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=9eb6628
[01:49:20] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/master/eth-packet-loss 551d2ae 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/sserial.c hostmot2: sserial: avoid timeouts 'waiting for CMD to clear' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=551d2ae
[01:49:27] <jepler> branch slightly rebased and pushed
[02:08:29] <mozmck> can the packet loss stuff be backported to 2.7?
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[02:18:01] <jepler> I suspect that at a technical level, it would not be hard to cherry-pick it to be based on 2.7 instead of master branch.
[02:20:28] <jepler> .. yes that works (cherry pick completes and it compiles, didn't run it)
[02:22:18] <jepler> obvously there's a higher standard of needing to hear "tested and works for me" before it goes in a stable branch
[02:22:22] <jepler> etc etc
[02:22:43] <jepler> and it touches outside of hm2_eth, so it could unintentially and negatively affect other board types as well
[03:11:51] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: do you remember what's up with 3724b9bd3?
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[03:25:47] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 aaf5c94 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure debian/configure: modernize usage/help message * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=aaf5c94
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[11:37:20] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: yes, see the commit message for 409125ecc8527abd3a79faa50d01bc1d833aa2ba
[11:37:42] <jepler> the change of digits and step_increment make that panel able to trigger the bug fixed by that next commit
[11:38:37] <jepler> .. because you can get the value displayed as 0.00 to be some tiny nonzero value in Python, which was getting formtted as 2...e-17 or something
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[11:45:07] <jepler> my "overnight" test with packet loss at 5% ended after just 36 minutes due to hitting the packet-error-level limit.
[11:47:02] <jepler> that's no surprise
[11:47:22] <jepler> what is a surprise is, I can't get it to recover after setting io_error back to 0
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[11:53:25] <jthornton> import linuxcnc only works with python 2.x and not python 3?
[11:54:05] <jthornton> must be some other problem lol nevermind
[11:55:09] <jepler> jthornton: that's right, our modules only work with python2
[11:55:18] <jepler> aha found one of my problems
[11:55:36] <jthornton> ok thanks
[11:58:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/master/eth-packet-loss 51471be 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hm2_eth.c 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hm2_eth.h 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/sserial.c hm2_eth: switch from using rxudp count to confirm_write_cnt * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=51471be
[11:58:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/master/eth-packet-loss 95b4aaa 06linuxcnc 10docs/man/man9/hm2_eth.9 hm2_eth: improve docs * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=95b4aaa
[11:58:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/master/eth-packet-loss 4a7fa27 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hm2_eth.c 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hostmot2.c 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/tram.c hostmot2: Treat -EAGAIN from hm2_finish_read specially * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4a7fa27
[11:58:20] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/master/eth-packet-loss 2b3ecc7 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/tram.c hostmot2: fix trivial typo in diagnostic message * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b3ecc7
[11:58:24] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/master/eth-packet-loss 0b6ecbf 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/sserial.c hostmot2: sserial: avoid glitches when starting to run * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b6ecbf
[11:58:28] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/master/eth-packet-loss 5008594 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/sserial.c hostmot2: sserial: avoid long wait after lost packet * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5008594
[12:01:33] <jepler> hm now the next problem is that my sserial daughterboard *outputs* glitch whenever going through the reset process
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[12:16:38] <jepler> and my solution for that is feeling pretty dubious
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[14:02:25] <emcPT> Good afternoon. I need some help. Will try to explain as best as I can what I am trying to do:
[14:03:05] <emcPT> I added, with success a new column on tools. Lets say that this column is called F
[14:03:28] <emcPT> I can write and read tools using the tool editor
[14:03:41] <emcPT> This is good
[14:04:01] <emcPT> On the file glcanon.py
[14:05:05] <emcPT> There is a method called def (self, current_tool)
[14:05:21] <emcPT> where the current tool loaded is used to display the tool on the preview
[14:07:17] <archivist> that could do with fixing to enable more tool types too
[14:07:39] <emcPT> The current tool is obtained (this can be wrong) by get_current_tool in src/emc/rs274ngc/interpmodule.cc
[14:07:43] <emcPT> Is this correct?
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[14:36:42] <emcPT> solved. I had a bug in emc/iotask/ioControl_v2.cc. It was necessary to add the corresponding "column name" in the saveToolTable
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[15:15:49] <jepler> .. but it's been running at 10% packet loss (and increased packet-error-limit on the 7i92) for 3 hours now at 1.25kHz
[15:17:20] <jepler> so basically I think hm2_sserial_force_write should *NEVER* actually reset anything, but should rely on the state machine in hm2_sserial_prepare_tram_write to manage recovery when necessary
[15:18:06] <jepler> .. which is working fine since earlier sserial error recovery work
[15:21:08] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/master/eth-packet-loss 2e40be2 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/sserial.c hostmot2: sserial: avoid long wait after lost packet * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2e40be2
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[15:28:29] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03andypugh 05joints_axes14 c918e1b 06linuxcnc 10scripts/update_ini Change the update_ini dialog box to point to better docs. * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c918e1b
[15:28:29] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03andypugh 05joints_axes14 5f796b8 06linuxcnc 10scripts/update_ini Change the update_ini script to replace gentrivkins and gantrykins with * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f796b8
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[16:51:20] <emcPT> From glcanon.py: result,seq = gcode.parse(f, canon, unitcode, initcode, interpname)
[16:51:36] <emcPT> where is the method parse located?
[16:52:23] <emcPT> Linuxcnc is exiting without any error message on that method.
[16:53:57] <emcPT> And I would like to try to know why
[16:54:04] <emcPT> looking at the code
[16:54:59] <seb_kuzminsky> emcPT: i answered this question last time you asked it:
[16:54:59] <seb_kuzminsky> 08:25:37 <+seb_kuzminsky> emcPT: i think you're looking for src/emc/rs274ngc/gcodemodule.cc
[16:57:27] <emcPT> If you did, I am sorry to ask again. should be with more attention.
[16:58:35] <seb_kuzminsky> no problem
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[17:00:09] <seb_kuzminsky> wat
[17:00:55] <seb_kuzminsky> buildmaster ran out of disk again :-(
[17:05:57] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: *sticks out tongue*
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[17:18:59] <seb_kuzminsky> just keeping 15 days of debs now instead of 30, see how long that helps
[17:20:10] <emcPT> I have narrowed my search to:
[17:20:15] <emcPT> printf ("Will enter interp_new.init\n");
[17:20:15] <emcPT> interp_new.init();
[17:20:15] <emcPT> printf ("interp_new.init ok\n");
[17:20:15] <emcPT> interp_new.open(f);
[17:20:15] <emcPT> printf ("interp_new.open(f) ok\n");
[17:20:42] <emcPT> never reach interp_new.init ok
[17:21:06] <emcPT> arround line 720 in gcodemodule.cc
[17:21:23] <emcPT> so it fails on interp_new.init()
[17:26:29] <emcPT> any rough idea in where should I look for more info? Maybe in interp_base.cc
[17:26:37] <emcPT> ?
[17:31:23] <emcPT> I am only able to find virtual int init() = 0; in interp_base.hh
[17:32:18] <emcPT> so this is beyond me.
[17:32:53] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/2.7/readline-license-check cbe6517 06linuxcnc 10src/configure.in configure: detect potential readline license conflict * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=cbe6517
[17:39:09] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: assuming the buildbot likes this one ^^^ do you think it is OK for 2.7? Because I know that redhat/fedora's *ONLY* readline is this way, and Debian/Ubuntu's default readline is this way, I would like to have users aware of the problem.
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[17:41:03] <jepler> emcPT: probably rs274ngc_pre.cc:int Interp::init()
[17:41:04] <jepler> etc
[17:41:20] <emcPT> thank you
[17:43:31] <mozmck> that license issue could get to be a real problem if more libraries linuxcnc depends on starting moving to GPL-3+
[17:43:50] <jepler> mozmck: *shrug* you're not wrong, and it's something we need to keep an eye on
[17:44:55] <mozmck> It seems unfortunate that they made GPL3 incompatible with GPL2 - especially given that many projects cannot switch.
[17:45:28] <jepler> last time I did a survey of packages we directly depend on, readline was the only problem (on debian wheezy)
[17:45:41] <jepler> when switching to or supporting a new platform it is going to be a good idea to check
[17:49:06] <linuxcnc-build> build #1796 of 1402.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1402.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386/builds/1796 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[17:49:45] <jepler> Running test: /home/buildslave/emc2-buildbot/wheezy-rtpreempt-i386/rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386/build/tests/abs.0
[17:49:49] <jepler> halrun: Realtime already running. Use 'halrun -U' to stop existing realtime session.
[17:49:52] <jepler> *** /home/buildslave/emc2-buildbot/wheezy-rtpreempt-i386/rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386/build/tests/abs.0: FAIL: test run exited with 1
[17:49:55] * jepler sticks his tongue out at linuxcnc-build
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[18:22:14] <linuxcnc-build> build #4139 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/4139 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
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[18:26:31] <jepler> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=jepler/2.7/readline-license-check 0000.checkin
[18:26:32] <linuxcnc-build> build #4140 forced
[18:26:32] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[18:47:41] <linuxcnc-build> build #1797 of 1402.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1402.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386/builds/1797
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[19:05:21] <linuxcnc-build> build #4140 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/4140
[19:18:41] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: looks like wheezy needs to be bounced
[19:19:51] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: hmm can buildbot have a "bounce this buildslave" builder that would let this kind of problem be self-service? force-build 9999-reboot-wheezy or somesuch
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[23:20:37] <pcw_home> I've run a day or so with the eth-packet-loss (previous to the latest sserial change)
[23:20:39] <pcw_home> and it seems solid (including sserial)
[23:23:51] <pcw_home> there is one funny thing, I use to be able to trigger more packet timeouts by setting the read timeout threshold lower and lower
[23:23:52] <pcw_home> but this does no seem to work anymore (this is on a different system however so tha may be the difference)
[23:30:56] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: bounced, thanks for letting me know