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[01:50:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes13 a58f18c 06linuxcnc 10(5 files in 4 dirs) docs: a few axis to joint corrections JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a58f18c
[01:50:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes13 d3236f1 06linuxcnc 10(5 files in 2 dirs) configs/sim/tklinuxcnc/ cleanup sims JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d3236f1
[01:50:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes13 17ceb1b 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/ini-config.txt 10docs/src/config/moveoff.txt 10docs/src/getting-started/updating-linuxcnc.txt docs minor update: HOME ini pins, man page refs JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=17ceb1b
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[03:56:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/sync_home_final 350824c 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/motion/homing.c homing.c provision to sync final move to home JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=350824c
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[11:58:11] <dgarr> skunkworks: dgarr/sync_home_final branch sync final move to joint homes:
http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/sync_home_final.jpg
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[11:59:05] <skunkworks> dgarr!
[11:59:18] <skunkworks> Cool - Nice work!
[12:05:42] <skunkworks> cradek_, ^ would that be mergable?
[12:07:48] <jepler> dgarr/sync_home_final is relative to JA so it couldn't be merged without merging JA.
[12:08:01] <skunkworks> jepler, I am fine with that ;)
[12:08:25] <skunkworks> (no I have not been testing ja much yet. Stop yelling at me!)
[12:09:15] <skunkworks> jepler, your ethernet branch ran all night no issues.
[12:10:27] <jepler> skunkworks: that's good info, thanks
[12:11:31] <jepler> huh I guess there is no abs() in kernel space
[12:11:31] <jepler> linux-4.1.3$ find include/ | grep -w abs || echo no match
[12:11:32] <jepler> no match
[12:14:49] <skunkworks> what do you do then?
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[12:23:49] <JT-Shop> PCW: thanks
[12:28:57] <skunkworks> cradek_, on jr - do you have machine zero at the upper right of the table or the lower left?
[12:37:28] <skunkworks> hmm - andy did a remap for lathe that used txxyy.. I wonder where that is.
[13:00:04] <cradek_> probably lower left?
[13:01:17] <cradek_> ooh sync_home_final is what I want synchronized (gantryish) homing to do in each step. I never got it working though...
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[13:02:26] <jepler> one question that is not answered by the commit message is what happens with a configuration like 1,-1,-1
[13:04:26] <jepler> .. that commit message would be good fodder for the docs when someone writes them
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[13:49:29] <cradek> jepler: I think the first block in the code makes them all negative in that case
[13:56:47] <jepler> that seems dandy
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[14:40:53] <als> wondering about the patch for radiobutton widget and what the likely hood of someone adding a horizontal feature ?
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[14:51:46] <cradek> als: I did see your patch on the mailing list, thank you for sharing it
[14:52:56] <cradek> I'm not sure I'm the right one to review a pyvcp change, but I have a couple requests. The signed-off-by is perfect, but the log message should be a summary of the change and why you made it, not the name of the file you changed. also there should be a corresponding doc change, I think maybe it should be in docs/src/gui/pyvcp.txt around line 500
[14:54:16] <cradek> also the email in the from and signed-off-by seems wrong - these need to be your correct email
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[14:55:17] <cradek> with those changes I will be happy to push this to master for you
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[14:56:34] <als> ok thanks
[14:57:37] <cradek> glad to have you back - I see you contributed some stuff in 2009-10, thank you
[14:58:36] <als> ya its been a while but linuxcnc is working great thank to all of you
[14:58:44] <cradek> terrific
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[15:57:12] <skunkworks> So if I try to install the install linux-image-rt-amd64
[15:57:13] <skunkworks> from backports - I get
[15:57:28] <skunkworks> linux-image-4.4.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 but it is not installable
[15:57:44] <seb_kuzminsky> jessie?
[15:58:00] <skunkworks_> yes
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[15:58:32] <skunkworks_> it is like the amd64 image doesn't exist.
[15:59:20] <seb_kuzminsky> i also do not see it in backports
[15:59:43] <seb_kuzminsky> though the linux-image-rt-amd64 package is there
[15:59:57] <skunkworks> right - ok - I am not crazy
[16:00:07] <seb_kuzminsky> but that one doesn't contain the kernel, it just depends on the most recent actual kernel package
[16:01:51] <skunkworks> maybe I do have something else broken?
[16:02:18] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.com/zwq08cum
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[16:07:28] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: no, it's a bug in the backports repo
[16:07:44] <seb_kuzminsky> the dependency package is there, even though the real package it depends on is not
[16:08:24] <CaptHindsight> TomP said he has elephants and there is plenty of room for a Fest :)
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[16:11:05] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: i just updated my backports apt source and linux-image-rt-amd64 disappeared (maybe i got a different mirror this time)
[16:11:13] <seb_kuzminsky> CaptHindsight: i saw that!
[16:11:16] <seb_kuzminsky> sounds like fun :-)
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[16:27:54] <skunkworks_> ah - so they removed it. darn
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[16:45:41] <jepler> yeah that's the second time they've taken away the RT kernel from jessie-backports
[16:45:45] <jepler> jessie-backports now has kernel 4.5 in it
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[17:13:15] <skunkworks_> Thought I would try a different rt kernal to see if I could get virtualbox working.
[17:13:18] <skunkworks_> Not a rush
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[17:30:44] <pcw_home> Why not just build a RT kernel?
[17:32:44] <skunkworks> I am scared to.. ;)
[17:33:25] <pcw_home> Unlike RTAI, Preempt-RT is pretty easy
[17:35:31] <skunkworks> hmm - doesn't jt have directions somewhere?
[17:36:59] <pcw_home> I have a stupid script I use
[17:39:01] <pcw_home> But I am just directly installing it, I think JTs script may make a .deb
[17:39:24] <skunkworks> can I have your script?
[17:40:04] <pcw_home> sure, you may have to update the names
[17:41:57] <als> cradek, here is the patch with the docs changed hope its ok
http://pastebin.com/ZG7qZQHp
[17:44:27] <pcw_home> http://freeby.mesanet.com/makert4.4.7-rt16 is for the latest available Preempt-RT kernel
[17:44:29] <pcw_home> also
http://freeby.mesanet.com/makert3.1.8 (but I would update it to the latest 3.18 kernel/patchset)
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[17:46:33] <pcw_home> I've had some issues with 4.4.X either stability, or worse latency than 3.18
[17:46:34] <pcw_home> _BUT_ 4.4.X has worked the best on newer hardware like my Zotax N3150 based machine
[17:46:39] <skunkworks> Thanks!
[17:46:51] <skunkworks> I will try the 4.4.x on this 2nd gen i7
[17:48:41] <cradek> als: great, I tweaked the log message (removed the filenames) and fixed a typo in the docs. you want to review or is it ok to just push it?
[17:49:09] <als> send it thanks
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[17:50:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Al Smart 05master 15be328 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/gui/pyvcp.txt 10lib/python/pyvcp_widgets.py allow horizontal radiobuttons in pyvcp * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=15be328
[17:50:17] <pcw_home> on the G3258:
[17:50:19] <pcw_home> http://freeby.mesanet.com/3.18.11-rt7.png
[17:50:20] <pcw_home> http://freeby.mesanet.com/4.4.7-rt16.png
[17:52:41] <skunkworks> looks like they have 4.5.2?
[17:54:25] <pcw_home> Im just going by whats in /pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt
[17:54:41] <skunkworks_> ah - ok
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[18:03:10] <skunkworks> didn't you also have a kernel config?
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[18:03:53] <pcw_home> yeah but you may still need to select 32/64 bits, funny hardware etc
[18:05:22] <pcw_home> most important thing is select fully preempt-able kernel
[18:05:23] <pcw_home> I think I had to enable Atheros wireless on my laptop
[18:06:35] <pcw_home> its easy to forget the config stuff since is uses the previous config file
[18:07:02] <pcw_home> oh and change the make to make -J4 or so
[18:08:02] <skunkworks_> heh
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[18:10:42] <skunkworks_> This has an intel wireless in it
[18:10:58] <skunkworks_> and wired
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[18:14:44] <pcw_home> on the N3150 I swiped a .config from OSADL
[18:19:11] <pcw_home> It seems to be better than mine but its hard to tell with the statistical nature of latency
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[18:35:05] <skunkworks_> churning, churning....
[18:39:28] <skunkworks_> http://electronicsam.com/images/matsuura/MatsVFDside.JPG
[18:39:44] <skunkworks_> a bit of dressing up to do...
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[18:44:48] <cradek> that's not much IO. I assume the tool changer doesn't work yet!
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[18:51:15] <skunkworks_> no - not yet ;)
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[21:41:57] <skunkworks> http://imgur.com/zYHqoWT
[21:59:51] <skunkworks> pcw_home, yes that was pretty painless... (well - with your directions ;)
[22:00:05] <skunkworks> and virtualbox just works
[22:12:15] <skunkworks> heh - the latency looks good until I try to use any of the hot keys like brightness, mute..
[22:12:22] <skunkworks> volume seems ok
[22:13:37] <skunkworks> keyboard light..
[22:13:43] <skunkworks> interesting..
[22:15:06] <skunkworks> that seems to be it
[22:15:23] <skunkworks> other than it doesn't like it if you force it to sleep ;)
[22:22:25] * JT-JA13 builds the dgarr/sync_home_final branch to test on ja
[22:23:09] <skunkworks> heh - it is mute. If I run the volume down using the volume keys - and it goes to mute - the latency spikes
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[22:27:18] <skunkworks> Well - I think this will be very usable!
[22:34:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/trt_doc_test_v2 2b250fb 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/Submakefile 04docs/src/motion/5*txt 10docs/src/motion/5-axis-kinematics.txt docs/src/Submakefile cleanups forgot -a latexmath * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b250fb
[22:34:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/trt_doc_test_v2 e98a5e6 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/motion/5-axis-figures/Figure-10.png 10docs/src/motion/5-axis-figures/Figure-11.png 10docs/src/motion/5-axis-figures/Figure-9.png 5-axis-kinematics.txt new Figure-9,10,11 JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e98a5e6
[22:34:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/trt_doc_test_v2 71bd41e 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/motion/5-axis-kinematics.txt 5-axis-kinematics.txt fix References items JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=71bd41e
[22:35:24] <skunkworks> I will have to hook up a 7i92 tomorrow.
[22:36:11] <skunkworks> (I also think it would be a cool video to walk up to the Matsuura - plug in a network cable to the laptop and run the machine...
[22:36:21] <skunkworks> I think it would open up peoples eyes..
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[23:52:49] <PCW> That was my experience with my Del E6420, latency was fine unless you messed with display brightness, or power source (line/battery)
[23:55:11] <PCW> Don't remember if I messed with the volume buttons
[23:56:21] <PCW> I just made a USB power thief cable to run with 7I92
