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[00:06:25] <seb_kuzminsky> so just to be clear, it's a boost bug in 1.58, not a linuxcnc bug, false alarm
[00:20:28] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: this seems vaguely familiar
[00:24:44] <jepler> ah yes
https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/mailman/message/34690271/ ?
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[00:31:02] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah
[00:31:23] <seb_kuzminsky> always fun when you google the error message and it leads you back to our own project
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[00:48:33] <seb_kuzminsky> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823188
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[01:36:49] <seb_kuzminsky> i said "jessie" above, but i meant stretch
[01:37:00] <seb_kuzminsky> i gonna go back to lurking
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[11:10:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.7 85039cc 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure Docs: add info about kernel * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=85039cc
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[11:45:27] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.7 489432f 06linuxcnc 03debian/extras/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-latency-histogram.desktop add latency histogram to the main menu * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=489432f
[11:45:41] * jthornton waits to see if the buildbot blows up now
[11:56:54] <skunkworks_> heh
[11:57:36] <skunkworks_> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mach1mach2cnc/conversations/messages/150712
[12:12:45] <jepler> yay now groups.yahoo.com shows some irritating popover instead of the content. that means I can close the tab and never read skunkworks' mach-related links anymore!
[12:13:26] <skunkworks_> jepler, I will get them to fix that. Just for you :)
[12:13:43] wtsmer is now known as remstw
[12:15:11] <skunkworks_> I can paraphrase.. 'threading is working for one piece of external motion hardware - or at least it is in testing..'
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[13:05:53] <skunkworks_> I thought someone already increased the stepgen max count
[13:06:44] <skunkworks_> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commit;h=61ebd8221eedad3d22b9e679c7857574b10c57d4
[13:14:19] <skunkworks_> the manpage does say 16
[13:14:26] <skunkworks_> wonder where he is seeing 8
[13:15:17] <skunkworks_> docs say 16 too...
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[13:21:28] <JT-Shop> some old link mayby
[13:21:31] <JT-Shop> mayby
[13:21:39] <JT-Shop> maybe
[13:25:03] <skunkworks_> too early
[13:36:28] <cradek> what a weird thread
[13:40:37] <skunkworks_> Nicklas's reply is a bit random
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[13:52:17] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.7 023d55b 06linuxcnc 10debian/extras/linuxcnc.files 10debian/extras/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-latency-histogram.desktop Menu: add latency histogram * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=023d55b
[13:52:43] <skunkworks_> cradek, did you see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81uwBAuR96I
[13:53:13] <cradek> yes! the accidental estop was a good test too.
[13:53:52] <skunkworks_> so how do you know when the spike at the beginning is tuning or acceleration limitation..
[13:54:36] <skunkworks_> yes - I didn't know what happened initally - I thought it was a following error.
[13:54:51] <skunkworks_> dad was laughing.. ;)
[13:56:35] <jepler> you could drive the amp with a voltage pulse (e.g., 8V for 1s) and look at the acceleration it's actually able to give. if it delivers less than your configured acceleration, then it seems like no amount of tuning will change that.
[13:56:44] <skunkworks_> You can see the estop switch on the table fall off
[13:56:53] * jepler goes to watch the video
[13:57:03] <skunkworks_> jepler, good idea
[13:57:05] <jepler> though I'm a little sad I got warned what would happen
[13:57:09] <mozmck> Only problem with latency-histogram on the menu is that the options to control must be passed on the command line
[13:57:36] <mozmck> and the default settings are not good for a preempt-rt system.
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[13:58:30] <mozmck> I wonder if those settings (sbins, nobase, etc) could be changed to gui options?
[13:58:35] <jepler> is that not the video with the estop, or did I miss it?
[13:58:43] <skunkworks_> it is right at the end..
[13:59:32] <jthornton> opps
[14:00:09] <skunkworks_> we have to get a control panel setup ;)
[14:00:44] <jepler> I hadn't watched this video either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwJLJxoKuM8 (the XYZAC kins & vismach)
[14:01:19] <skunkworks_> linuxcnc is cool.. :)
[14:03:46] <jthornton> I think I've messed up my git trying to revert the last two commits
[14:04:30] <skunkworks_> The machine is a little less estop friendly that I like..
[14:04:48] <skunkworks_> It depends on the electronics of the vfd to shut the spindle down.
[14:05:14] <skunkworks_> (there is no contactor before the vfd - just an 'estop' input to the vfd control electronics)
[14:05:20] <skunkworks_> this is how it was from the factory
[14:05:26] <jepler> skunkworks_: surprising
[14:06:26] <jthornton> well crumb it shows up as linuxcnc-latency-histogram.desktop in the menu :(
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[14:09:06] <jthornton> does this look correct?
http://paste.ubuntu.com/16189395/
[14:09:52] <jepler> that's a reflog, it doesn't tell what the result of a push would be. you want something more like: git log --oneline @{u}..
[14:16:02] <jthornton> 9b2c8a3 Revert "add latency histogram to the main menu"
[14:16:03] <jthornton> b6122fa Revert "Menu: add latency histogram"
[14:16:25] <jepler> and those are the two commits you want to undo, and the diffs look right?
[14:16:34] <jthornton> yes
[14:16:55] <jepler> then go ahead
[14:17:54] <jthornton> To ssh://jthornton@git.linuxcnc.org/git/emc2.git
[14:17:55] <jthornton> ! [remote rejected] 2.7 -> 2.7 (pre-receive hook declined)
[14:17:55] <jthornton> error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://jthornton@git.linuxcnc.org/git/emc2.git'
[14:18:18] <jepler> oh you have to sign off on a revert commit just like any other commit
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[14:25:45] <jthornton> I was able to figure out how to amend the last commit in git gui but can't figure a way to sign off the one before it
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[14:27:35] <skunkworks_> jepler, I am going to test your ethernet branch but I am getting a merge conflict
[14:27:40] <skunkworks_> How do I force?
[14:31:01] <jepler> skunkworks_: If you are on the ethernet branch and want to discard anything on your local branch that is different from what I last pushed, you can do this: git reset --hard @{u}
[14:33:08] <skunkworks_> that worked - thanks
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[14:41:17] <seb_kuzminsky> jthornton: your "Docs: add info about kernel" commit adds a linebreak in a funny place, so the following line begins with a comma
[14:42:22] <JT-Shop> well crumb
[14:42:45] <JT-Shop> I need to revert the last two commits but can't figure out how to sign off the second one
[14:43:00] <JT-Shop> the second revert
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[14:53:42] <jepler> you should be able to add a forgotten sign-off by using interactive rebase, same as any regular commit.
[14:54:05] <jepler> or you can discard all your local work with an operation like git reset --hard @{u}, and then recreate both reverts taking care to use "git revert -s" to sign off on the commit at the time you create it
[14:54:22] <jepler> or I can just do it for you if you're still having trouble and it's not the right time to learn more git
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[15:49:31] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 05cff65 06linuxcnc 10debian/extras/linuxcnc.files 10debian/extras/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-latency-histogram.desktop Revert "Menu: add latency histogram" * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=05cff65
[15:49:31] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 97e0653 06linuxcnc 04debian/extras/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-latency-histogram.desktop Revert "add latency histogram to the main menu" * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=97e0653
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[15:49:42] <jepler> jthornton: done
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[15:52:17] <JT-Shop> thanks
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[16:29:21] <mozmck> I recently discoved 'ack', and now 'ag' - the faster version!
[16:30:34] <mozmck> http://beyondgrep.com/ and
https://github.com/ggreer/the_silver_searcher
[16:34:19] <jepler> eh, "git grep" can grep the linuxcnc source tree in 33ms, not sure faster matters.
[16:35:45] <mozmck> perhaps not for linuxcnc, but the syntax is simpler which is quite nice, along with other features.
[16:36:35] * JT-Shop recently discovered latency-histogram --help
[16:36:59] <JT-Shop> and wonders what a bin is?
[16:38:18] <mozmck> The description here says it better than I can:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histogram
[16:38:57] <JT-Shop> so for a preempt-rt what would be sensible defaults?
[16:39:02] <mozmck> Each vertical bar would be a 'bin' I believe, and the height indicates the number of hits
[16:39:25] <JT-Shop> that makes sense bin = range of a bar
[16:39:46] <mozmck> I can't remember offhand what I use. Something that allows it to show +- 50 at least
[16:40:04] <pcw_home> yeah so if you have larger latency, you need to increass the bin size
[16:41:25] <JT-Shop> what package is mesaflash in?
[16:41:32] <pcw_home> For really lousy machines I use 2000 = 2 usec/bin) I think thats +-200 usec range
[16:42:09] <mozmck> Looks like I have used "latency-histogram --nobase sbins 400" which shows +-40 us
[16:42:15] <pcw_home> mesaflash has it own package
[16:42:25] <mozmck> oops, that is --sbins 400
[16:42:38] <JT-Shop> is it just sudo apt-get install mesaflash?
[16:42:46] <pcw_home> yeah
[16:42:49] <mozmck> or --sbins 500 for +-50 us
[16:42:52] <JT-Shop> thanks
[16:43:13] <jepler> $ time ag -s kinemat | sort > ../ag.out
[16:43:13] <jepler> real 0m0.053s
[16:43:16] <jepler> $ time git grep -n kinematic | sort > ../gg.out
[16:43:16] <jepler> real 0m0.032s
[16:43:31] <jepler> ag's not even faster than git-grep, and for some reason it also finds fewer matches (439 vs 457) for this particular pattern
[16:44:14] <mozmck> Hmm. I haven't tested it that much yet, just read about it and used it just a little.
[16:44:32] <mozmck> I haven't used git-grep
[16:45:07] <JT-Shop> hmm I don't see a 5i25_7i76_7i77.bit but I see a 5i25_7i76_7i77mev4.bit
[16:45:44] <JT-Shop> for a 7i76 on p3 and a 7i77 on p2
[16:48:48] <pcw_home> thats a somewhat uncommon config (7i66-7I77)
[16:49:58] <JT-Shop> he has a 7i76 now on p3 and is adding a 7i77
[16:53:07] <pcw_home> I'll build a 7i76_7i77 config later today and add it to the disty configs
[16:53:37] <JT-Shop> thanks
[16:57:49] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, i've got something else going on during the cnc workshop in detroit this year, no can go
[16:58:11] <seb_kuzminsky> it'd be great if someone represented linuxcnc there, but it wont be me
[16:58:29] <seb_kuzminsky> it'd also be great if we could get together and blow up some more amps this summer
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[17:01:14] <JT-Shop> that sounds like a ripping good time there
[17:01:33] <jepler> I'd rather do something linuxcnc-centric to be honest
[17:02:35] <CaptHindsight> early June is already taken for me as well
[17:03:01] <CaptHindsight> I 2nd jepler's comment
[17:03:36] <cradek> we could all get together and ignite my plutos
[17:03:51] <CaptHindsight> lets see who else responds with ideas
[17:03:54] <jepler> not sure how many people fit in your basement. three was about enough.
[17:04:08] <jepler> I hear seb's hometown has a nice hackspace
[17:04:12] <cradek> suppose so
[17:04:27] <CaptHindsight> Boulder?
[17:05:07] <cradek> that place is full of hippies
[17:05:16] <cradek> oh wait
[17:05:18] <cradek> never mind
[17:05:34] <cradek> yes boulder :-)
[17:05:37] <JT-Shop> lol
[17:06:21] <JT-Shop> ouch boulder is 1k miles away from me
[17:06:23] <CaptHindsight> Boulders weather is nicer than Houston in summer
[17:06:44] <seb_kuzminsky> nah. boulder's all yuppies now, the hippies were priced out in the 80s
[17:06:48] <cradek> JT-Shop: seems like it's far from everywhere
[17:06:52] <archivist> it is moooore miles for me!
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[17:08:54] <CaptHindsight> Chicago is expanding its hackerspace, but lodging is more expensive than most places
[17:09:06] <jepler> maybe not more than boulder
[17:09:13] <seb_kuzminsky> isnt chicago the murder capital of the US nowdays?
[17:09:24] <CaptHindsight> yeah on the South Side
[17:09:49] <jepler> afk for some lunch
[17:09:56] <CaptHindsight> Madison is near that CNC vendor that uses linuxcnc
[17:10:05] <archivist> seems there was a murder in the motor lodge where I stayed in Chicago
[17:10:15] <CaptHindsight> but it's harder to fly in and out of
[17:10:55] <seb_kuzminsky> i'd prefer somewhere i could drive to with a van full of nerdy toys
[17:11:05] <cradek> yeah, me too
[17:11:13] <JT-Shop> yea driving is my preferred way to travel
[17:11:16] <seb_kuzminsky> within a long day's drive of boulder
[17:11:26] <CaptHindsight> http://arnfest.com/ but no mention of 2016
[17:11:53] <CaptHindsight> 50-60 miles from Chicago
[17:12:51] <archivist> make it a couple of weeks and near Dayton hamfest too :)
[17:13:40] <CaptHindsight> Stuarts location was great
[17:14:01] <JT-Shop> where is that?
[17:14:05] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah that was a good spot
[17:14:09] <seb_kuzminsky> witchita, KS
[17:14:50] <JT-Shop> that I could do easy in the van
[17:14:54] <seb_kuzminsky> but we weren't invited back...
[17:15:06] <JT-Shop> caused too much trouble lol
[17:16:05] <CaptHindsight> he did offer if there were no other options
[17:18:00] <CaptHindsight> is there a hackerspace in wichita?
[17:18:41] <CaptHindsight> http://makeict.org/ there is
[17:21:38] <CaptHindsight> they have a 4 axis Tormach there
[17:21:47] <CaptHindsight> http://makeict.org/wiki/Metalshop
[17:23:17] <CaptHindsight> or how about the Kansas City area?
[17:36:11] <seb_kuzminsky> is Lincoln, NE near the center of the graph of interested developers?
[17:36:22] <seb_kuzminsky> or maybe we should all fly out to Andy's place :-)
[17:37:06] <CaptHindsight> TJT is in Thailand
[17:37:25] <seb_kuzminsky> ooohh
[17:37:53] <CaptHindsight> he has elephants
[17:38:19] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder what the bangkok hackspace is like
[17:38:52] <JT-Shop> lincoln is in my range
[17:39:53] <JT-Shop> YEA ja13 can jog a joint at the Axis slider jog speed before homing
[17:41:04] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder if we could merge ja13 if we all sat down for a week and hacked on it
[17:41:39] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, Thailand has a hackspace named "Pork Healing"
[17:42:25] <seb_kuzminsky> or maybe it's just a hotel/resort, but it's listed as a hackspace
[17:42:34] <seb_kuzminsky> https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/Pork_Healing_at_Ing_Doi,_Pai,_Thailand
[17:42:47] <seb_kuzminsky> it sounds silly but now i think i'd love to have a hackfest in thailand
[17:46:01] <CaptHindsight> during winter break
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[18:22:07] <CaptHindsight> Stuart replied to the Fest
[18:22:49] <CaptHindsight> he has his own new shop
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[19:29:23] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: regarding Len SHelton's thread on emc-users about wanting more stepgens in 2.5
[19:29:54] <seb_kuzminsky> i cherrypicked 61ebd8221eedad3d22b9e679c7857574b10c57d4 into v2.5_branch and it passed all the tests
[19:30:04] <seb_kuzminsky> do you see any reason not to push it?
[19:31:30] <jepler> we're never going to make another 2.5 release, are we?
[19:32:22] <seb_kuzminsky> i thought there was one more, before i turn off the hardy buildslaves
[19:37:32] <seb_kuzminsky> if we dont want to bother that's fine too
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[19:38:59] <jepler> was the last one 2.5.4, released over 2 years ago?
[19:39:02] <cradek> it's fine if you push it
[19:39:08] <cradek> some people might follow that branch
[19:39:08] <jepler> or am I missing tags?
[19:39:25] <cradek> (I didn't get the impression he was actually solving a problem)
[19:40:26] <jepler> oh there's a bugfix in daisy.ngc, important to get that one out
[19:45:11] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 05v2.5_branch 1ea3f61 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/components/stepgen.c increase stepgen to 16 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1ea3f61
[19:48:50] <seb_kuzminsky> there's a g81 wrong-motion bugfix
[19:49:01] <seb_kuzminsky> meh
[19:49:18] <seb_kuzminsky> we should either release it and EOL it, or just EOL it
[19:49:33] <seb_kuzminsky> either way i get to shut off the hardy buildslaves
[19:50:25] <seb_kuzminsky> oops, i should have added a newline to the commit message
[20:06:28] <jepler> I think cradek gets to say as RM but I would be totally happy to just say it's EOL
[20:10:37] <cradek> hmm looks like there are all sorts of fixes, wrong motions, hal, etc
[20:11:08] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky might have to help me get it all signed, but I can sure make the magic tag
[20:12:03] <jepler> 2 years since last release!
[20:12:15] <jepler> OK I'll stuff a shirt in my opinion now
[20:12:41] <cradek> meh
[20:12:46] <cradek> I'm ambivalent
[20:13:09] <cradek> if people are still using it, they're either tracking the branch, or (likely) not running into the few bugs
[20:15:34] <mozmck> I should upgrade my router from 2.3 sometime...
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[20:32:07] * JT-Shop gives digging a try, if that don't work I'll work in the garden
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[21:04:56] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: i'm happy to help with any of that
[21:05:08] <seb_kuzminsky> i have some notes that helped me with 2.6 and 2.7 here:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ReleaseCheckList
[21:05:33] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, hold on a sec
[21:06:04] <seb_kuzminsky> v2.5_branch lacks the gnupg directory that the buildbot uses to verify release tag signatures
[21:08:27] <seb_kuzminsky> which means the buildslave users gotta have the key used to sign the release tag in their "personal" keyring
[21:08:40] <seb_kuzminsky> i think they do, because it worked for the earlier 2.5 releases
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[21:12:30] <seb_kuzminsky> let me double check all the buildslaves tonight, before you push the release commit & tag
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[22:09:57] <seb_kuzminsky> ok cradek, all the keys were already in place for 2.5, it's ready for you whenever
[22:10:00] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl
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[22:39:11] <JT-Shop> I wonder about a launcher for the latency-histogram that would allow you to make the command line choices
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[22:43:09] <JT-Shop> wow commit by magic
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[23:09:56] <mozmck> JT-Shop: I'm thinking we might could modify latency-histogram to have those options in the program. Don't know how easy that will be though.
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[23:29:58] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop: cherry-picks can be a bit disconcerting to see...
[23:39:53] <PCW> JT-Shop:
http://freeby.mesanet.com/5i25_7i76_7i77.bit