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[12:39:03] <skunkworks> PCW, seems to be running 1khz just fine
[12:39:13] <skunkworks> (days so far)
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[13:20:24] <jepler> let's see how the forum fares upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04 (operating on a copy of its virtual machine)
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[13:22:26] <cradek> hey you could use illegit zfs now
[13:23:18] <jepler> oh gee thanks for reminding me
[13:29:12] <jepler> mysql_upgrade: [ERROR] 1007: Can't create database 'performance_schema'; database exists
[13:29:15] <jepler> mysql_upgrade failed with exit status 5
[13:29:17] <jepler> dpkg: error processing package mysql-server-5.7 (--configure):
[13:29:20] <jepler> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[13:29:23] <jepler> hm this doesn't seem good
[13:30:19] <jepler> and then the upgrader process asked to send the error, I said yes and *that* crashed
[13:30:22] <jepler> AttributeError: 'bytes' object has no attribute 'encode'
[13:30:35] <jepler> >>> looks like you're trying to write python3, where they screwed up everything about strings. continue? N/N
[13:30:40] <cradek> thanks obama
[13:32:20] <jepler> and now that I've rebooted, the front page of the website says: setStart($startTime, $startMem)->mark('afterLoad') : null; // Instantiate the application. $app = JFactory::getApplication('site'); // Execute the application. $app->execute();
[13:32:37] <jepler> that was not something you could qualify as a success
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[14:05:01] <cradek> jeez, yay for snapshots
[14:07:15] <jepler> the major version of php seems to have changed, the upgrade didn't install new corresponding packages, and now everything's busted.
[14:07:24] <jepler> so yeah throw this one away and wait until I have a weekend to devote to it
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[14:21:16] <skunkworks> Yeck.. Thanks for keeping up on it.
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[18:29:09] <CaptHindsight> so it appears that if one ARM core (#0) is used for RT Linuxcnc and the others (#1-3 or #1-7) for software rendering. that AXIS and window movement is quite zippy
[18:29:33] <PCW> skunkworks: the Zotac (using a N3150 CPU) has also been running at 1KHz for a few days now and seems OK (4.4.7-RT16, OSADL config)
[18:29:46] <CaptHindsight> undecernable from x86
[18:30:51] <CaptHindsight> indiscernible
[18:32:46] <PCW> Not great latency wise (160 usec) but with position sample retiming its not really an issue
[18:34:14] <skunkworks_> that reminds me - I have to make sure the dpll is turned on in the matsurra
[18:36:50] <PCW> No sure there's a 7I80HD servo config with DPLL, I need to remake a lot of the 50 pin Ethernet configs
[18:37:46] <skunkworks__> I thought it was a hal setting..
[18:38:11] <PCW> it is, but the DPLL module needs to be there
[18:38:40] <skunkworks__> ah - so I would need to update the 7i80.
[18:40:22] <PCW> what config are you using now?
[18:40:59] <PCW> (guessing svss6_8 something_
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[18:43:43] <skunkworks__> I would have to look.. It has the 7i48 and 7i44
[18:46:02] <PCW> probably 7i80hd_16_svss6_8.bit
[18:50:36] <jepler> CaptHindsight: unmodified, rtapi/hal are written to bind to the highest CPU number, not the lowest one. did you modify linuxcnc to get RT on #0 instead?
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[19:17:16] <PCW> skunkworks, should you read back:
[19:17:17] <PCW> http://freeby.mesanet.com/7i80hd_16_svss6_8D.bit
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[19:40:45] <JT-Shopp> I've got something out of wack on my gantry attempt, the motors run but don't stop
http://gnipsel.com/files/emc/Gantry/
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[19:41:24] <JT-Shop> both motors spin but are slow to get up to speed
[19:47:12] <CaptHindsight> jepler: preempt_rt on ARM, just wanted to show that 1 core if Linuxcnc with the other for software rendering
[19:48:17] <CaptHindsight> so to be even more clear it appears that if one ARM core (#3 or #7) is used for RT Linuxcnc and the others (#0-2 or #0-6) for software rendering. that AXIS and window movement is quite zippy
[19:55:27] <PCW> at the minimum, this is wrong
[19:55:29] <PCW> net axis.1.command pid.1.output => gantry.0.position-cmd
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[19:56:36] <PCW> PID outputs should only be wired to stepgen velocity inputs
[19:59:34] <PCW> take a look at:
[19:59:36] <PCW> freeby.mesanet.com/gantry.zip
[19:59:37] <PCW> at least for basic connctions
[19:59:45] <PCW> connections
[20:03:25] <JT-Shop> thanks
[20:04:31] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop: here's the config for the gantry machine at my local hackspace:
http://highlab.com/~seb/linuxcnc/bes-shopbot/
[20:04:42] <seb_kuzminsky> it works pretty well
[20:05:04] <seb_kuzminsky> there's a branch in that repo named "ja", which has the joints_axes conversion of the config, it works even better
[20:05:15] <JT-Shop> cool
[20:05:18] <seb_kuzminsky> incremental world-mode jogging! wooooo
[20:06:56] <JT-Shop> I don't see the ja branch
[20:07:07] <seb_kuzminsky> oops, hold on
[20:07:08] <JT-Shop> I did find the hey page
[20:07:28] <seb_kuzminsky> try now
[20:07:31] <seb_kuzminsky> it's named "ja"
[20:07:54] <PCW> does the JA branch do gantry homing correctly?
[20:08:31] <seb_kuzminsky> sure, for some value of "correctly"
[20:08:44] <seb_kuzminsky> it doesn't do the synchronized-homing trick cradek's been talking about
[20:09:04] <PCW> well no increase in crabbing during homing
[20:09:13] <JT-Shop> I refreshed this page a couple of times but no ja
http://highlab.com/~seb/linuxcnc/
[20:09:25] <seb_kuzminsky> i think it homes in the same way master does
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[20:16:03] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop: uh, well, i dont know what i have to do to make the git repo inside ~seb/linuxcnc/bes-shopbot be accessible :-(
[20:16:07] <seb_kuzminsky> sorry
[20:16:33] <seb_kuzminsky> i just ran the update_ini script and fixed (by hand) its obvious mistakes
[20:20:05] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop: here:
https://github.com/SebKuzminsky/bes-shopbot/tree/ja
[20:20:28] <JT-Shop> that worked :)
[20:20:30] <JT-Shop> thanks
[20:21:11] <seb_kuzminsky> there's probably tons of out-of-date info and just plain mistakes all over
[20:23:04] <PCW> fixed a minor PID constant issue:
[20:23:06] <PCW> http://freeby.mesanet.com/gantry.zip
[20:23:49] <PCW> that should just work on the 7I92 (may need to change the card name)
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[20:24:52] <JT-Shop> thanks
[20:26:31] <jepler> scathing "un-review" of pine64
http://hackaday.com/2016/04/21/pine64-the-un-review/
[20:27:40] <jepler> > The hard part is getting the software working, getting the documentation together, and fostering a community that isn’t stumbling in the dark trying to get this board to work. This is where the Pine64 fails. The forums are a mess right now, and the comments on the Kickstarter campaign aren’t much better.
[20:27:53] <jepler> > The software support and documentation is so sparse, I literally can not get into a Linux terminal. With a day sunk into setting up the Pine, I only have a picture of a Pirates of the Caribbean desktop that came on a distribution produced by someone completely unrelated to the Pine team. This isn’t just me, either; a few of the Hackaday Overlord devs gave the Pine a shot, too. The results were i
[20:27:59] <jepler> nconclusive.
[20:29:10] <PCW> At least it loaded and I was able to jog around, did not attempt homing as I don't have the hardware
[20:29:12] <PCW> that may take some tweaks...
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[20:54:34] <JT-Shop> yea, I'm building a show and tell gantry to test with as soon as I get it running
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[20:59:55] <PCW> the gantry comp homing violates machine accel so depends on reasonable stepgen accel limits
[21:05:49] <PCW> I think a proper stepgen would do this:
[21:05:51] <PCW> its incoming position command accel limits are set to machine limits +say 0.25% to allow minor math/ timing errors
[21:05:52] <PCW> its feedback accel limit is set to the machine limits +20% for internal PID headroom
[21:05:54] <PCW> as it stands there are still some robustness issues
[21:07:30] <PCW> that is if the position command exceeds the stepgens accel limits, bad things happen (your nice first order linear feedback loop goes all to hell)
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[21:19:31] <JT-Shop> I'm very happy to report the Y axis is running correctly now, thanks
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[21:28:26] <PCW> the real question is will 2 switch homing work
[21:32:00] <JT-Shop> testing that now
[21:33:06] <PCW> I tested the step part, (didnt want to hear any more from Mr dead in the water with 7I92)
[21:45:50] <JT-Shop> I hear you
[21:46:30] <JT-Shop> guess I need to rig up a couple of micro switches using pyvcp inputs gives a limit error
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[23:09:22] <JT-Shop> wire up the switches and see what happens
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[23:44:14] <JT-Uspace> hmm, I get hit limit in home state 7 and joint 1 on limit switch error as soon as the first one contacts a home switch... test more tomorrow
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