#linuxcnc-devel | Logs for 2016-04-07

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[00:00:21] <jepler> updated: https://emergent.unpythonic.net/files/sandbox/0001-untested-work-around-1e-10-problem.patch
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[00:03:43] <andypugh> Surely it would be better to fix G-code to accept exponent notation :-)
[00:04:10] <andypugh> I will try to remember to try it out tomorrow. But it’s late here now.
[00:05:28] <andypugh> Night all
[00:05:28] <cradek> I thought that too, but after 5 seconds I realized e is a word
[00:05:31] <cradek> g'night
[00:05:55] <andypugh> It took me about as long, hence the smiley.
[00:06:03] <cradek> figured :-)
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[00:53:04] <cradek> I cringe to think of the spinbox implementation that gives you 1e-10 after (I assume) you click up for a while and then back down
[01:00:17] <jepler> yeah me too, but turns out it's not hard at all
[01:00:18] <jepler> >>> x = 0.0
[01:00:18] <jepler> >>> x += 0.1; x += 0.1; x += 0.1
[01:00:18] <jepler> >>> x -= 0.1; x -= 0.1; x -= 0.1
[01:00:18] <jepler> >>> x
[01:00:21] <jepler> 2.7755575615628914e-17
[01:00:30] <jepler> oh floating point, is there no problem so simple you can't screw i tup
[01:03:07] <cradek> bbbbut that's not how you should implement it
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[01:03:47] <cradek> i=0; i++; i++; i++; i--; i--; i--; i*0.1
[01:04:27] <cradek> although I've written a range/wraparound error haven't I
[01:04:50] <jepler> only if someone clicks two billion times, I suppose
[01:04:55] <cradek> yeah
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[01:09:06] <jepler> but in this kind of box you may also be able to type 0.1, or maybe even 0.33, and then still click the up and down arrows
[01:09:47] <cradek> oh, then you're so doomed
[01:17:33] <jepler> nah, you could use decimal arithmetic
[01:17:44] <jepler> then every human will be happy with the outcome of adding 0.1 or entering 0.33
[01:18:38] <jepler> ob: http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2312
[01:18:46] <jepler> er that's not the right link
[01:19:29] <jepler> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2999
[01:50:43] <cradek> oh good, I don't have to go looking for that one now
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[02:56:29] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes13 d1f2324 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/rs274/glcanon.py glcanon.py updates readability etc for JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1f2324
[02:56:29] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes13 634fb67 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/gremlin/gremlin.py gremlin.py: update WRAPPED_ROTARY,num_joints JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=634fb67
[02:56:29] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes13 c06e26c 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/gladevcp/hal_gremlin.py hal_gremlin.py remove adjust of lathe home[] JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c06e26c
[02:56:31] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes13 4d2e47c 06linuxcnc 10(5 files in 5 dirs) glcanon.py: new func GlCanonDraw:init_glcanon() JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4d2e47c
[02:56:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes13 05e0118 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/gscreen/gscreen.py gscreen update for joints_axes +debugging aids JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=05e0118
[02:56:39] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes13 cb5adf8 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/rs274/glcanon.py 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py glcanon.py establish no_joint_display locally JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=cb5adf8
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[03:20:59] <linuxcnc-build> build #2377 of 1404.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1404.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-amd64/builds/2377 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
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[03:33:03] <linuxcnc-build> build #4035 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/4035 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[04:12:28] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05joints_axes13 103bfe9 06linuxcnc 10docs/man/man9/kins.9 kins.9 fix example error JA * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=103bfe9
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[04:36:33] <linuxcnc-build> build #2216 of 1405.rip-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1405.rip-wheezy-armhf/builds/2216 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[04:41:57] <linuxcnc-build> build #4036 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/4036 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
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[12:02:47] <jepler> andy made hackaday http://hackaday.com/2016/04/07/1921-ner-a-car-motorcycle-reborn-with-epic-parts-remanufacture/
[12:09:02] <jthornton> cool
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[13:04:20] <skunkworks> I wonder if rtai acts differently
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[13:20:45] <skunkworks> PCW, Could i have your gcode?
[13:20:54] <cradek> > It seemed pointless to make press tooling and only make two, so I made enough to satisfy worldwide demand for the next century.
[13:21:01] <cradek> I love andy's blog and his writing
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[13:40:48] <pcw_home> http://freeby.mesanet.com/torus-test.ngc
[13:41:40] <pcw_home> (its just the torus.png image converted to gcode)
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[14:03:05] <cradek> some good photos of the final result: http://www.beautifullytold.com/ner-a-car/
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[14:33:42] <skunkworks> pcw_home, 73k clock cycles on a 2ghz rtai so far (36us)
[14:34:16] <skunkworks> motion command handler tma
[14:34:20] <skunkworks> motion command handler tmax
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[14:37:55] <lair82> Good Morning Guys, any idea what this error may mean? https://app.box.com/s/rnjbd90ahq0ytq2m8zsi0m8ja8e7vgat
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[14:38:52] <cradek> it expects CONFIG_DIR to be in your environment but it isn't
[14:42:04] <lair82> what would cause that to not be there, this machine has been running without any real issues, or errors like this, until yesterday, when all sorts of interesting things started happening.
[14:47:36] <JT-Shop> hard drive problem?
[14:49:54] <lair82> The PC on the machine completely shut itself down about a half hour ago, right in the middle of a running program
[14:50:43] <JT-Shop> motherboard dirty?
[14:51:17] <lair82> Last night, late, they dropped a program into the nc_files folder, remotely from the office programming computer, and it shut itself down
[14:51:38] <cradek> that's sure the smell of a hardware problem, isn't it
[14:52:04] <lair82> there is some dust on the fan, and the blades on the heat sink are a little dirty, but not oily or any thing
[14:52:50] <lair82> I have another MB and CPU spare on the shelf, do you guys think that may be my issue?
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[15:07:33] <JT-Shop> check the health of the hard drive
[15:07:41] <JT-Shop> do a memory test
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[16:26:53] <skunkworks> lowering the look ahead from 50 to 10 doesn't seem to effect it. peaking still at 70k clocks
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[16:33:40] <skunkworks> I am sure it still does the same math for the path... the path just might be slower
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[17:21:50] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks for checking
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[17:26:55] <skunkworks> J1900 gigabyte
[17:27:29] <skunkworks> seems to stay under 80clocks with rtai
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[17:33:52] <skunkworks> JT-Shop, http://www.cnczone.com/forums/linuxcnc-formerly-emc2-/304280-forum.html
[17:33:55] <skunkworks> :)
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[17:36:14] <pcw_home> math library issue?
[17:37:41] <skunkworks> I will reboot to rt_preempt to see if there is a difference
[17:38:14] <skunkworks> program is almost done
[17:39:52] <jepler> scripts/linuxcnc.in:CONFIG_DIR="${INIFILE%/*}"
[17:39:52] <jepler> scripts/linuxcnc.in:export CONFIG_DIR
[17:40:00] <jepler> CONFIG_DIR is set by the linuxcnc runscript
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[17:43:02] * skunkworks thinks a hard drive failing
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[17:54:35] <skunkworks> with rt_preempt has peaked motion-command-handler to 100k so far
[17:57:16] <skunkworks> although this is some odd rt_preempt kernel..
[17:58:14] <skunkworks> 3.2.0-4
[17:59:29] <lair82> Are there any precautions to take on mounting/connecting the SSD, it is only about a year and a half old, and it was new out of the box when installed, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721107&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=sv300s37a120g-_-20-721-107-_-Product
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[18:01:49] <pcw_home> It that a drive from "anonymous"
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[18:06:32] <skunkworks> I would go with samsung...
[18:06:42] <skunkworks> or crucial
[18:07:14] <lair82> Kingston junk?
[18:08:57] <skunkworks> I am not going to be that harsh.. But if I was doing something that I wanted the drive to last a long time I would go samsung pro series
[18:09:12] <skunkworks> or atleast an evo
[18:12:33] <lair82> ok, I will be ordering some shortly
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[18:15:19] <skunkworks> This one running the torus is peaking at 108k clocks so far. I will let it run
[18:16:31] <skunkworks> (58us)
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[18:21:07] <skunkworks> 2.7.4
[18:24:29] <PCW> but much lower on RTAI?
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[18:40:22] <jepler> I think on x86 we directly assemble sin() cos() etc into inline fsin/fcos instructions. we certainly aren't using functions which have all the IEEE-correct handling that glibc's libm does...
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[19:29:57] <skunkworks> zlog
[19:29:58] <zlog> skunkworks: Log stored at http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2016-04-07.html
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[19:37:41] <skunkworks> pcw_home: seems higher with rt_preempt - when I left it was up to 118k clock cycles
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