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[14:38:02] <seb_kuzminsky> uh oh, i hope ed nisley is ok,
http://softsolder.com/2016/03/01/makerspace-starter-kit-available/
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[14:58:09] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: oh no :-(
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[15:07:02] <jepler> :-/
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[15:43:27] <skunkworks> zlog
[15:43:28] <zlog> skunkworks: Log stored at
http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2016-03-01.html
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[15:45:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 5a617cb 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/user_comps/wj200_vfd/wj200_vfd.comp wj200: warn on unhandled command-line arguments * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a617cb
[15:45:40] <seb_kuzminsky> i tried to add argument info to the wj200 manpage, but halcompile thwarted me
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[15:54:22] <skunkworks> Then it has done its job?
[16:03:58] <jepler> .. don't make me ragequit, please
[16:04:57] <seb_kuzminsky> oh, and i noticed that wj200_vfd is a .comp, and it links with extra libraries
[16:05:02] <seb_kuzminsky> didn't someone ask about that recently
[16:05:36] <seb_kuzminsky> it does a wonky thing where halcompile preprocesses the comp into a .c file, then the normal build system compiles & links the .c with extra libraries
[16:05:50] <seb_kuzminsky> it's... not an example to emulate
[16:09:41] <skunkworks> jepler, :)
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[22:41:11] <andypugh> Is there a LinuxCNC participation in Google Summer of Code this year? I just remembered there was an email from a student in York about it, who got very little response.
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[22:43:31] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/matsuura/oscope.jpg
[22:43:53] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/matsuura/sensors.jpg
[22:43:59] <skunkworks> 6000rpm
[22:44:28] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: i just spoke with sean morrison (our brl-cad gsoc buddy), he wants us in again, and he wants us to be much more selective about accepting students this year
[22:44:55] <seb_kuzminsky> only kids who demonstrate early their commitment and capability (this is the gsoc standard)
[22:44:57] <andypugh> Did we accept any last year?
[22:45:47] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: sort of - there was a student who did a tiny project for another sponsor under the brl-cad umbrella, and got shuffled to us half-way through
[22:46:18] <seb_kuzminsky> his name was guruwinder, he came here and asked for help about stepconf a couple of times, but afaik never produced any code
[22:46:58] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks wins "grimiest oscope" award
[22:47:30] <andypugh> OK.
[22:47:34] <skunkworks> :) it has been around a long time...
[22:47:36] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: are those sensors picking up the teeth? hall effect? that's cool
[22:47:42] <skunkworks> Yes
[22:48:03] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: any info on the york student?
[22:48:29] <skunkworks> http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?keywords=620-1328-1-nd
[22:48:35] <seb_kuzminsky> alyona morozov
[22:48:52] <andypugh> I could probably act as some sort of liason for the kid at York, being in the UK and spending a lot of time workin with students. (Not at York, though my cousin studied there)
[22:49:08] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: that's great! thanks for volunteering!
[22:49:36] <andypugh> Not sure if he (she?) was interested in LinuxCNC or BRLCad
[22:49:59] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder if someone who's primarily interested in 3d graphics and games would be appropriate for us
[22:50:20] <andypugh> Gremlin update?
[22:50:29] <seb_kuzminsky> can't hurt to ask
[22:50:41] <andypugh> What was the issue there? GTK3?
[22:51:03] <seb_kuzminsky> gtk3 is a looming cliff for sure
[22:52:25] <seb_kuzminsky> there's probably some papercut-class bugs with gremlin
[22:52:34] <seb_kuzminsky> is the velocity display in the DRO still missing?
[22:54:42] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: do you want to respond to Alyona's email on emc-developers and act as our point of contact?
[22:55:06] <andypugh> Aye, I can do that.
[22:55:36] <seb_kuzminsky> great
[22:56:19] <seb_kuzminsky> the lesson i learned in last year's gsoc is that the student needs to show initiative and capability early on, or it's too risky to invest time in them
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[22:57:51] <andypugh> Risky in what sense? I already waste all my time.
[22:59:24] <jepler> convert gremlin/axis to opengles2.0 for compatibility with sbcs
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[23:00:36] <jepler> port machinekit drivers for popular sbcs to linuxcnc
[23:00:51] <jepler> work on lui
[23:01:02] <jepler> (ugh maybe not without good direction)
[23:04:00] <seb_kuzminsky> i'd suggested the pasm thing and the lui thing to our gsoc contact, opengles2.0 gremlin is a good suggestion
[23:04:11] <seb_kuzminsky> and yes, plenty of direction will be needed...
[23:08:28] <jepler> booooo dragonboard wifi is still broken as all heck even with the update
[23:08:36] <jepler> 64 bytes from dragon.localnet (10.0.2.58): icmp_seq=197 ttl=64 time=256 ms (DUP!)
[23:09:45] <andypugh> I wonder of Pi3 is any good with LinuxCNC?
[23:10:21] <andypugh> Probably still hampered by the USB Ethernet. But maybe SPI to Mesa card?
[23:10:34] <jepler> well aside from the problem of having no working hardware drivers in linuxcnc (same as all other rpis) and only getting software opengl the way gremlin/axis are currently designed...
[23:11:28] <jepler> on all pis, the ethernet is on the usb bus, so not good for hm2-eth. not a betting man, but probably the kernel spi driver needs fixes for realtime before it would work with hm2_spi
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[23:12:13] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: you sent them your spi fixes from the u3, right?
[23:12:39] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: I halfheartedly submitted them on the linux-spi mailing list but absolutely failed to be a champion of the patches
[23:13:17] <Tom_itx> i take it not seeing many updates here of late means there are no bugs in 2.7.xx?
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[23:16:36] <jepler> oh I am sure there are bugs. I don't think we've fixed any high-profile bugs since 2.7.4.
[23:16:41] <andypugh> There seems to be one, a wierdness with run-from-line
[23:16:52] <andypugh> (introduced in 2.7.4)
[23:17:03] <Tom_itx> i haven't tried that feature yet
[23:17:34] <jepler> yeah we introduced the current rfl bug fixing the previous one, I htink
[23:17:38] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: this one?
https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/30276-run-from-line-and-v-2-7-3
[23:17:42] <andypugh> I don’t know if the chap raised a bug report. He certainly did lots of testing on the forum
[23:18:12] <seb_kuzminsky> there's not an issue on github for it
[23:18:12] <andypugh> That’s the one. Ignore my statement on when it was introduced.
[23:18:33] <andypugh> He might have raised it on Machinekit.
[23:18:48] <andypugh> There is a fair bit of confusion there in the user-base. Still.
[23:19:10] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm
[23:19:17] <jepler> I think we know there's a bad interaction between probing & rfl
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[23:20:16] <andypugh> Zultron described _a_ problem, but it didn’t sound like _this_ problem exactly.
[23:21:14] <andypugh> But it seems to run a probe move even if the RFL start is after the probe move. But only if the probe is in a sub.
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[23:23:22] <jepler> does anybody want pieces of what *used to be* a dragonboard 410c? because this thing is about to be just pieces.
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[23:32:44] <jepler> useless broken wifi
[23:35:13] <andypugh> WiFi is new-fangled runnish anyway. It will never catch on.
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[23:48:36] <mozmck> Yes, I think the run-from-line issue is the same one I ran into.
[23:50:16] <seb_kuzminsky> will someone please open an issue on github for this?
[23:50:47] <mozmck> It also involves O-words, and we worked around it by not using an o-word routine for our probe touch-off.
[23:51:37] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm glad you found a workaround, that's more useful for you; but i'd like to also know how to trigger the bug, that's more useful for fixing it
[23:55:50] <mozmck> I did at the time and it was discussed on here a bit. There didn't seem to be much interest at the time, and right now I have no time to go back and duplicate all of that.
[23:57:01] <mozmck> The best fix will be a simple run-from-line that does not cycle through the code, but simply starts from the line indicated. That's on my short (but still too long!) list of things to do ;-)
[23:59:33] <seb_kuzminsky> i think you can't know the state of the interpreter without advancing the program line-by-line up to the start line
