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[02:10:58] <CaptHindsight> sorry, wrong channel
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[02:42:21] <skunkworks> zlog
[02:42:22] <zlog> skunkworks: Log stored at
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[15:08:51] <jepler> this linux mint security debacle is sad.
http://lwn.net/Articles/676613/
[15:09:02] <jepler> I don't know that we'd fare any better against a motivated attacker.
[15:12:11] <seb_kuzminsky> i bet not
[15:12:34] <seb_kuzminsky> security is a fulltime job, across the whole org, and we dont do it
[15:12:49] <JT-Shop> seb_kuzminsky: did you get a chance to look at my patch?
[15:13:10] <seb_kuzminsky> the one you posted on emc-developers, right
[15:13:16] <JT-Shop> yes
[15:13:33] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: fwiw jt's patch makes linuxcnc better follow debian packaging standards and it looks like the restart method works on all our platforms (though I have only tested it by manually sudo'ing, not by testing a resulting package)
[15:13:38] <jepler> so I give it a positive review
[15:13:41] <seb_kuzminsky> i saw it, it looks good, and you and jeff tested it on all the .7 distros, right?
[15:13:51] <seb_kuzminsky> grr, *2*.7
[15:14:00] <seb_kuzminsky> my "2" button is failing
[15:14:01] <JT-Shop> I tested on 10.04 and LinuxMint
[15:14:07] <JT-Shop> with 2.7
[15:14:26] <JT-Shop> this is very good
http://gnipsel.com/recipes/snacks/pumpkin-treat.html
[15:15:28] <cradek> that looks really good, but the fruit should be soaked in rum, not water
[15:15:37] <cradek> you need to do these things right
[15:15:53] <seb_kuzminsky> 2.7 thinks it runs on wheezy & jessie, and ubuntu 10.04 and 12.04
[15:16:26] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: my "testing" was to sudo [that command] interactively on wheezy & jessie
[15:16:48] <seb_kuzminsky> it's unfortunate that we don't test package installs
[15:16:56] <jepler> yeah that would not be the easiest thing to do
[15:17:11] <jepler> and to really test it, you need a fresh system with one of those devices matched by the udev rules
[15:17:16] <seb_kuzminsky> but oh well, y'alls manual testing seems really thorough
[15:17:19] <JT-Shop> it's PCW's snack kicked up a bit
[15:17:57] <cradek> and the cocaine-fueled-mid-century-church-lady-cookbook look of your page is cool
[15:18:10] <JT-Shop> I wonder how the fruit would be soaked in Remy Martin
[15:18:13] <JT-Shop> thanks
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[15:18:25] <seb_kuzminsky> haha
[15:19:06] <seb_kuzminsky> is a udev restart needed, or is a reload enough?
[15:19:13] <cradek> (I expected "Recipes by JT" to take me to the recipe table of contents)
[15:19:19] <cradek> this is sooo OT, sorry
[15:19:26] <jepler> hmph. I was trying to figure out when kernel 4.4 would be likely to enter debian testing, but when I follow the RC-bug link from
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/linux I get 500 Internal Server Errors from bugs.debian.org
[15:19:38] <seb_kuzminsky> and would udev be better if we soaked it in rum first?
[15:19:43] <cradek> surely
[15:20:03] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: they're targetting 4.10
[15:20:15] <seb_kuzminsky> for debian 9's kernel
[15:20:29] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: I tried to research that too. There may be a way to invoke udevadm to reapply device permissions as though devices were plugged in anew, but one report I saw said it booted the user from their X session
[15:20:50] <seb_kuzminsky> unix is getting weirder and weirder
[15:20:55] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: based on guesses about kernel and debian schedule, you mean?
[15:21:05] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah
[15:22:48] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: did your 4.4 -rt debs make it into a public repo anywhere?
[15:24:12] <seb_kuzminsky> my cheesy repo: deb
http://highlab.com/~seb/linuxcnc jessie main
[15:24:14] * JT-Shop makes a mental note to fix the misleading link
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[15:50:38] <jepler> I've got your horrifying 60s recipe right here:
http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2016/02/knit-fruits-and-veggies-by-mapleapple-look-good-enough-to-eat/
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[19:08:52] <skunkworks_> zlog
[19:08:52] <zlog> skunkworks_: Log stored at
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