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[02:23:29] <skunkworks> archivist: Hopefully tomorrow when my tame Linux geek comes round [ if he gets day release ] I will have my hobber working on Linux instead of an unreliable black box so I do show an interest.
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[02:23:34] <skunkworks> :)
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[02:44:11] <archivist> hehe
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[02:53:02] <mozmck> skunkworks: next post: "PathPilot immediately looked to me as working like a Mazak, and it was a disappointment to see it being so close, yet... Not quite."
[02:53:19] <mozmck> I wonder why being better than a Mazak is a disappointment? ;-)
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[02:55:41] <skunkworks> no clue. I don't get people
[02:57:52] <archivist> there was a comment on a program tonight on the brain, we all have a different reality
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[03:01:45] <mozmck> well, that is probably a bit strong, but "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" sure seems to be true more often than not. What you get used to has a large impact on how you think things should work.
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[03:04:44] <archivist> to me the eye of the beholder and what a user gets used is the same as that program statement, been some interesting things about how the brain perceives on it
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[12:27:31] <skunkworks> linuxcnc.org seems to be down
[12:34:43] <Tom_itx> it's working for me
[12:35:03] <skunkworks> odd
[12:38:24] <skunkworks> must be me. works on the phone
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[16:31:43] <Roguish> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/sourceforge-and-slashdot-have-been-sold/
[16:31:55] <Roguish> probably old news..........
[16:37:59] <malcom2073> Heh sourceforge... trusted.
[16:38:06] <malcom2073> He's gonna have a long hard road ahead of him proving that out
[16:41:37] <cradek> wow, the comments are amazing
[16:42:09] <cradek> folks, if you're too lazy to moderate comments on your site, just DON'T HAVE COMMENTS
[16:45:02] <malcom2073> Heh
[16:45:47] <cradek> I shouldn't have said that, because it might cause more people to view the page, rewarding them for leaving the comments there
[16:45:59] <cradek> I really hate web 2.0
[16:49:44] <malcom2073> Heh
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[20:02:09] <skunkworks> is there a current way to visualize hal circuits?
[20:05:17] <mozmck> chalkboard
[20:05:33] <skunkworks> literally a chalkboard?
[20:05:52] <skunkworks> because all I have here is a whiteboard...
[20:05:59] <mozmck> I guess you could get more modern and use a whiteboard ;-)
[20:06:45] <skunkworks> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/24-hal-components/14592-visualizing-hal-nets-with-graphviz
[20:06:50] <mozmck> I don't know a good answer to your question. Seems like I've seen some stuff but I think it was all for making a visual circuit and converting to hal.
[20:07:15] <mozmck> ooh! looks like you found something.
[20:07:49] <skunkworks> have to give it a try
[20:08:20] <PCW> also
[20:08:21] <PCW> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?HalSchematicsUsingGschem
[20:09:52] <skunkworks> neat
[20:10:05] <PCW> That for the reverse translation (schematic to hal) which is easier since the output format is dont-care
[20:10:51] <PCW> getting a schematic that doesn't hurt your eyes from a netlist is tougher
[20:10:52] <mozmck> Yes, I don't know if there was a translation for hal to schematic though
[20:12:20] <mozmck> PCW: thanks for the checksum suggestion for determining firmware in 7i92
[20:13:28] <PCW> should be workable as a hackuntil IDROM V4
[20:13:30] <mozmck> mesaflash --device 7i92 --addr 10.10.10.10 --readhmid | cksum
[20:14:22] <jepler> PCW: did you ever get a chance to test with my sserial changes? I just realized I'm going on vacation tomorrow and never got that branch merged..
[20:14:24] <mozmck> Works fine here.
[20:14:33] <PCW> also even if you have a name in the config, the checksum keeps it honest
[20:14:41] <jepler> PCW: based on jt's feedback, I feel pretty confident about the code so I could go ahead and merge it
[20:14:44] <mozmck> oops, last sentence was for PCW, not jepler
[20:15:33] <mozmck> PCW: yes, the cksum program also outputs the size, so I compare that as well.
[20:15:37] <PCW> No I have been pretty much buried If JT is happy that's good enough for me since he had really severe noise issues
[20:16:12] <jepler> PCW: OK, I'll try to get it merged tonight.
[20:16:24] <jepler> I don't have much trip prep left, and the merge should go quick
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[20:24:38] <skunkworks> jepler, germany?
[20:25:05] <jepler> skunkworks: nah, california
[20:25:20] <skunkworks> nice.
[20:26:59] <skunkworks> we are going to new orleans
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[20:53:47] <jepler> that should be a blast!
[20:53:57] <jepler> unfortunately I'm going to the wrong part of california to drop in on pcw
[21:00:42] <JT-Shop> we're going to Nashville
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[21:31:00] <jepler> should be things to do there!
[21:34:24] <jepler> do you go for music, or other reasons?
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[23:01:38] <JT-Shop> we are going with some friends to try out 55 south and just see what we can find
[23:01:55] <JT-Shop> we all have cabin fever lol
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[23:20:43] <jepler> > We disagree with some of the previous monetization strategies from an industry and business perspective, and have immediate plans to discontinue programs inconsistent with our being a trusted and reliable resource for the entire open source community.
[23:21:10] <jepler> (say the buyers of sourceforge, whose reputation was tarnished^Wobliterated when they started including unwanted software in software installers for windows)
[23:21:14] <jepler> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/sourceforge-and-slashdot-have-been-sold/
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[23:45:11] <JT-Shop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp0qi80AvZM
[23:47:05] <JT-Shop> not sure what kind of music you like, I like most styles of good music
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[23:55:00] <JT-Shop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxKy1_c6DeM
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