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[00:40:04] <cradek> github has turned into an angry rainbow unicorn
[00:43:19] <JT-Shop> yuck
[00:50:28] <cradek> some of my best friends are rainbow unicorns, but I prefer the ones without anger issues
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[00:50:59] <cradek> 18:47 CST We're investigating a significant network disruption affecting all github.com services.
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[00:58:01] <cradek> how do you even timezone:
https://status.github.com/messages
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[01:05:46] <jepler> ooh github broke. good thing we still have glo.
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[02:22:00] <cradek> wow, two hours no github
[02:22:20] <cradek> I hope they didn't lose everything like sourceforge used to periodically
[02:24:41] <seb_kuzminsky> self-driving cars, self-landing rockets, dan-level go computers...
[02:24:47] <seb_kuzminsky> i guess the future *is* coming, after all
[02:25:35] <jepler> http://hackaday.com/2016/01/27/tp-links-wifi-defaults-to-worst-unique-passwords-ever/
[02:25:39] <jepler> welcome to your future
[02:25:56] <jepler> the default password is admin, or the last 4 bytes of the device's MAC
[02:27:06] <jepler> https://status.github.com/messages
[02:27:24] <jepler> they have received word from the future that it won't be fixed by midnight
[02:27:35] <cradek> yeah, how do you even timezone
[02:28:22] <cradek> actually the main website is back
[02:28:27] <jepler> actually ..
[02:29:45] <cradek> that tp-link thing is amazing
[02:31:10] <jepler> > Laverton Police Sen. Sgt Heath Soutar said a visiting tour bus fell victim to an attempted theft last week.
[02:31:13] <jepler> Sen. Sgt Soutar said it appeared the would-be thief or thieves tried to siphon fuel from the parked bus during the night.
[02:31:16] <jepler> However, they got a bit more than they bargained for when they accidentally accessed the bus’ waste tank instead of the one containing fuel.
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[02:46:53] <jepler> for me, the github site is "up", and a "git push" to github completed without error, but the pushed stuff isn't reflected in the website yet
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[03:36:36] <skunksleep> Rolls eyes....
http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/threads/69425-Orac-lathe-for-Milton
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[03:39:12] <cradek> wow, some of that is wrong, and some is not even wrong
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[03:40:42] <cradek> http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/044/247/297.png
[03:43:47] <skunksleep> Going to use path pilot which not configurable friendly...
[03:46:04] <cradek> I hope he's happy with it
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[19:20:47] <skunkworks> archivist, setting up johns pathpilot too?
[19:21:15] <archivist> not asked me to do that
[19:21:31] <archivist> ..... yet
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[19:22:40] <skunkworks> :)
[19:23:38] <archivist> I need a car so its easier to wander over to his place
[19:25:03] <skunkworks> bus or train?
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[19:28:38] <archivist> a-c is generally useless by public transport
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[19:33:26] <archivist> and this is typical
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35424393
[19:33:58] <jepler> "a-c"?
[19:34:49] <archivist> via b
[19:35:10] <archivist> however many steps
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[22:50:53] <mozmck> we need a new special purpose halcmd-scripting-language
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[23:16:52] <jepler> mozmck: tcl isn't satisfactory?
[23:17:21] <mozmck> that was a bit tongue-in-cheek ;-) apparently Marius on the list doesn't think so
[23:18:07] <mozmck> tcl is not clean and elegant enough - whatever that means.
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[23:23:39] <jepler> oh
[23:23:58] <jepler> I haven't been keeping up..
[23:24:20] <jepler> I try to shrug and go on with my life when I see those kinds of posts anyway
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[23:27:41] <jepler> > if {[info exists ::OPTIONS] && $::OPTIONS(SIM) == 1}
[23:28:03] <jepler> a better person would make a useful standard library for hal tcl
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[23:28:47] <jepler> so if it's really a common pattern, it could be written if {[hal_is_sim]} or something else a little nicer
[23:29:25] <jepler> .. I made a full Tcl binding for halcmd specifically because I feel writing a custom command language is the wrong direction; we'll do something worse than Tcl
[23:29:38] <jepler> but whatever
[23:31:47] <mozmck> Yes, I agree - best if we can use an existing one.
[23:32:05] <mozmck> he doesn't like python either.
[23:33:46] <jepler> I don't think I have anything to add to the discussion
[23:34:26] <mozmck> I almost wrote a response but decided against it.
[23:34:46] <mozmck> does jessie actually not have gtk2?
[23:35:43] <mozmck> looks like it does:
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libgtk2.0-0
[23:35:57] <mozmck> Don't know why niemand thought it doesn't
[23:36:37] <jepler> I think that supporting stuff, like a version of glade that actually works with our glade files, is disappearing as unmaintained
[23:36:43] <mozmck> I doubt it's going away until the gtk3 folks decide to quit making breaking changes between point releases.
[23:36:54] <mozmck> That could be...
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[23:37:28] <jepler> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gui/gladevcp.html#gladevcp:prerequisites
[23:37:52] <mozmck> well, I've got to run for now.
[23:38:48] <jepler> I think this prerequisite is not in debian jessie
[23:39:26] <mozmck> I see.
[23:39:57] <jepler> we should stick with Tcl/Tk, they have a much better multi-decade compatibility track record
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[23:40:47] <mozmck> :-) I'm sure all the kids will love that.
[23:41:16] <mozmck> I like C++ and FLTK myself ;-)
[23:41:27] <mozmck> I better go for real now. later.
[23:41:31] <jepler> see ya
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