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[00:30:56] <jepler> > Moving repository to LinuxCNC/linuxcnc-mirror. This may take a few minutes.
[00:31:48] <jepler> sweet you can now clone
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc
[00:32:33] <jepler> .. and github issues are now enabled
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[00:39:22] <malcom2073> yay
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[00:44:19] <jepler> I have to go AFK, I hope I got that doc change right. I'll merge it up later unless someone jumps on the task.
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[03:42:03] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 052.7 81d9a34 06linuxcnc 03docs/src/code/contributing-to-linuxcnc.txt Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.6' into 2.7 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=81d9a34
[03:44:03] <cradek> people start talking about motors and transformers and stuff, and jmk is all like "don't make me come over there" haha
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[03:54:28] <seb_kuzminsky> i just moved the wlo (jekyll source for the www.linuxcnc.org website) to the github.com/LinuxCNC org
[03:55:44] <cradek> sweet
[03:56:06] <seb_kuzminsky> i should push to see if the website auto-updates
[03:57:25] <KGB-wlo> push to test-linuxcnc-org branch:
http://wlo-test.highlab.com/test-linuxcnc-org
[03:57:39] <seb_kuzminsky> that was easy
[03:57:46] <seb_kuzminsky> the more i use github, the more i like it
[03:58:50] <andypugh> cradek: I get the feeling that Bertho knows his stuff too.
[03:59:02] <cradek> me too
[04:00:07] <seb_kuzminsky> i guess i could move the rtai/kernel repos to the LinuxCNC org too
[04:00:15] <cradek> I'm always amazed at how much variation there is around the world. when we're all chatting worldwide, it's hard to know what advice you can even use
[04:05:14] <andypugh> Yeah, even such things as what you can legally ground. I am pretty sure I am not allowed to bonf my neutral to earth anywhere but at the incoming supply.
[04:05:28] <andypugh> (bond)
[04:06:09] <andypugh> it comes down to what happens given two possible failures, I think.
[04:08:54] <jepler> cradek: the mirroring of linuxcnc amounts to me running this in cron:
[04:08:54] <jepler> cd /store/src/linuxcnc.git; git fetch --prune origin && git push --prune --mirror github
[04:09:02] <jepler> linuxcnc.git is a bare mirror of the real linuxcnc.git
[04:09:39] <jepler> so I think you just need to configure a github remote in the real linuxcnc.git which can "git push --prune --mirror github". You should be able to register a ssh key on github just for this purpose.
[04:09:57] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: "git fetch --prune --tags origin"
[04:10:07] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: ooh thanks
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[04:11:00] <jepler> cradek: anyway let me know if you do this, or if you decide it is ill-conceived to do this; I'll either stop running my script, or start running it somewhat more often.
[04:11:08] <jepler> 'night all
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[04:12:33] <seb_kuzminsky> night
[04:13:45] <cradek> I wonder if that could go in post-receive instead of cron
[04:14:04] <cradek> or some appropriate hook anyway
[04:15:52] <jepler> cradek: right, doing it from a hook would make it nearly instant
[04:16:05] <jepler> I guess I wasn't entirely clear that's what I was asking for
[04:16:56] <cradek> I will try to do this tomorrow
[04:17:05] <jepler> excellent news
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[12:41:25] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.7 01bb362 06linuxcnc 10(9 files in 4 dirs) Docs: add mb2hal, work in progress * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=01bb362
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[15:22:24] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master beccaa2 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.in Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.7' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=beccaa2
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[15:39:35] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: can you add more words on the front page of
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ so that it doesn't imply you can get the amd64 + preempt-rt + jessie combination right now?
[15:49:01] <linuxcnc-build> build #1345 of 4018.deb-wheezy-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4018.deb-wheezy-rtai-i386/builds/1345 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, andypugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>, John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
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[16:27:21] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: will do
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[16:50:16] <seb_kuzminsky> i think it'd be a smop to adapt the rtai kernel building infrastructure to build rt-preempt kernels
[16:50:32] <seb_kuzminsky> for nearly arbitrary versions of linux & the rt-preempt patch
[16:50:58] <seb_kuzminsky> the rtai kernel build infrastructure is based on the debian.org kernel packaging, and it includes support for rt-preempt
[16:51:43] <seb_kuzminsky> just need to pick a version of debian.org's packaging that refers to a kernel.org version that's supported by rt-preempt, then figure out how to use their machinery to get the rt-preempt patch in
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[20:36:26] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: that would be great, have any tuits?
[20:46:33] <jepler> > UEFI requires the firmware and operating system loader (or kernel) to be size-matched; for example, a 64-bit UEFI firmware implementation can load only a 64-bit operating system boot loader or kernel
[20:46:54] <jepler> huh so it may be as terrible as norbert says. I didn't know about this brokenness of UEFI
[20:47:30] <jepler> wikipedia goes on to say that 64-bit Linux can transition from 32-bit UEFI but leaves it unsaid that going the other way doesn't work
[20:47:49] <jepler> stupid stupid stupid design, if you make the mistake of thinking UEFI's goals are to boot general purpose operating systems
[20:49:35] <jepler> http://blogs.intel.com/evangelists/2015/07/22/why-cheap-systems-run-32-bit-uefi-on-x64-systems/
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[21:14:53] <pcw_home> The couple UEFI implementations I've seen do have a working legacy mode so its possible to boot 32 bit OS's
[21:14:54] <pcw_home> (is there some reason to not go to 64 bit for modern dists? I guess there are still some people running PIIIs )
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[21:36:55] <jepler> assuming the underlying RT kernel isn't flaky, just the usual manpower problems
[21:45:18] <cradek> a lot of post-P3 machines have no 64 bit mode. it's not that crazy to still encounter them.
[21:45:30] <cradek> I think I have xeon and celeron machines here that are that way
[21:45:51] <cradek> but yeah, they are old
[21:53:57] <pcw_home> yeah almost any x86 hardware less then 10 YO will be x86-64
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[22:12:14] <pcw_home> looks like VIA didn't have a 64 bit capable CPU till 2008 or so
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