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[04:54:33] <skunkworks> isn't it odd that the plot is moving?
[04:54:36] <skunkworks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JzuyvvDWzc
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[13:38:20] <jepler> skunkworks: in vismach? It could be right or it could be wrong
[13:38:47] <jepler> skunkworks: In this case, the machine rotates the work. It may be the case that the red backplot lines are staying attached to the work when that rotary moves.
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[13:57:33] <skunkworks> oh - duh
[13:57:52] <skunkworks> it was late
[14:03:30] <cradek> that's one of the few setups I've seen where AXIS and vismach previews both look right :-)
[14:03:34] <cradek> Asan knows what he's doing
[14:03:39] <cradek> that's quite a machine model
[14:05:45] <archivist> I would like to know what order he has the geometry set to, it sure looks right
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[14:07:47] <cradek> you could [cough cough] ask in the youtube comments
[14:08:34] <archivist> you tube comments are broken in the bowser I am using, I cant even reply to a user in one of my vids
[14:11:35] <archivist> stepgen overshoot what should I fiddle to get it better
[14:12:42] <archivist> didnt skunkworks find something when testing the new trajectory planner
[14:13:01] <cradek> software stepgen or mesa? velocity or position mode?
[14:13:48] <archivist> software, standard settings apart from acceleration which I have slowed down a lot
[14:14:18] <cradek> what is feeding it?
[14:14:49] <archivist> http://www.archivist.info/cnc/wormtest/wormtest.ini
[14:15:14] <cradek> MAX_ACCELERATION = .30
[14:15:15] <cradek> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = .15
[14:15:21] <cradek> this is wrong
[14:15:49] <archivist> in what way, it is deliberate to be slow
[14:16:21] <cradek> stepgen has less accel allowed than the command has, so it can't possibly track
[14:16:44] <cradek> brb
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[14:30:16] <archivist> seems better, I wanted to be slow enough that the output worm stopped without running on much, if any
[14:32:16] <archivist> had a mains dropout this morning so the data grab stopped but got 240 degrees of data
http://www.archivist.info/cnc/wormtest/plot_normalised2_2.php
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[15:07:33] <cradek> wow 0.1 degrees seems like a lot of error
[15:08:05] <cradek> what worm is this?
[15:11:46] <jepler> and strongly periodic every 30 degrees or so
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[15:19:33] <archivist> worm pair out of some instrument, just using it as an example of the periodic errors you can get from gearing, 4 start worm driving a helical
[15:19:56] <archivist> so the 30 degrees is one rotation of the worm
[15:20:39] <cradek> to the eye, does it look good, or bad/worn/bent?
[15:20:39] <archivist> I have seen worse errors in bought dividing heads
[15:21:27] <archivist> by eye it looks and feels fine, I cleaned and oiled before setting up the test
[15:22:32] <archivist> basically low cost worms are going be as bad in a lot of cases from my measurements when back at the clockworks
[15:23:21] <cradek> that's interesting
[15:23:27] <archivist> this is where linuxcnc is a win for diagnosis
[15:25:01] <archivist> the jig
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=wormtest
[15:28:09] <cradek> neato
[15:28:14] <cradek> is that a super deluxe encoder?
[15:29:05] <archivist> which one, the left is 1000 line the blue is 5000
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[15:30:37] <archivist> will be using the first one to debunk microstep "accuracy" then first to second to shoe the worm with stepper out of the equation
[15:30:45] <archivist> show
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[15:31:17] <cradek> aha
[15:32:13] <archivist> just watching it and the encoder numbers you can see a commanded step and no movement
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[15:33:35] <archivist> must do some averaging/correlation to separate the individual error sources
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[15:55:00] <cradek> jepler: www-data (the user) on forum is getting DMARC fallout bounces in email
[15:55:10] <cradek> might want to devnull that - not sure
[16:02:29] <jepler> hmmm thanks
[16:02:54] <jepler> I went ahead and did that
[16:03:14] <cradek> yeah can't imagine they're any use
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[18:16:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 0303f7b 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/getting-started/updating-linuxcnc.txt docs: restore huanyang vfd info * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0303f7b
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[19:02:44] <KimK_laptop> seb_kuzminsky: Hi Seb, I'm trying to help test the 8.2/RTAI, still installing. I got as far as dpkg-check-dependencies(sp?), I have tcl/tk 8.6 (and could pick 8.5) but it wants 8.4; I have something6 and it wants something, other similar problems. Any advice? I'm away from that PC now, but will be there this evening.
[19:04:11] <jepler> which "it" wants 8.4?
[19:04:25] <jepler> dpkg-checkbuilddeps executed in a linuxcnc source tree?
[19:04:37] <KimK_laptop> the dpkg dependency checker, yes
[19:05:03] <jepler> that implies to me that you do not have debian/control generated correctly. When debian/configure generates debian/control, it is supposed to name the correct version of Tcl and Tk
[19:05:12] <jepler> for Debian 8.x AKA Debian Jessie, that is 8.6.
[19:05:25] <jepler> Are you working from a git clone or from something else? How did you invoke debian/configure?
[19:06:39] <KimK_laptop> OK, when I return, I'll go back to the beginning of the directions. Git clone, yes, what was it, rtai-5 ?
[19:06:51] <seb_kuzminsky> KimK_laptop: in addition to jepler's suggestions, make sure you're on a recent version of 2.7 or master (earlier versions don't support the jessie rtai)
[19:07:07] <jepler> the stuff that was in the "rtai-5" branch has been merged into the 2.7 branch, and from there into master
[19:07:11] <seb_kuzminsky> the rtai-5 branch has been merged into 2.7 (and up into master)
[19:07:12] <jepler> so using the rtai-5 branch is not necessary anymore
[19:07:23] <KimK_laptop> OK, I was going by the directions.
[19:07:46] <jepler> echo "unknown distribution: $DISTRIB_NAME"
[19:07:59] <jepler> if debian/configure prints "unknown distribution" then we need to know what DISTRIB_NAME is for you
[19:08:19] <jepler> but we expect it to reach an earlier clause that applies to Debian-8.*
[19:08:33] <seb_kuzminsky> KimK_laptop: i see, the instructions in the blog entry on the linuxcnc.org front page
[19:08:43] <seb_kuzminsky> yes, that's outdated now, i should update it
[19:09:41] <KimK_laptop> The jessie install distrib? The directions weren't too specific, but I picked i386 and xfce, trying to avoid trouble.
[19:09:51] <jepler> in fact you should probably just pastebin whatever debian/configure is printing when you run it
[19:09:51] <KimK_laptop> Yes, the front page directions.
[19:12:32] <KimK_laptop> OK, will pastebin tonight. The dependency checker was down to about 4-5 problems, though, so, better.
[19:16:40] <KimK_laptop> Thanks, gents.
[19:22:44] <seb_kuzminsky> whoops, i forgot to merge the rta-5 support from 2.7 into master
[19:22:48] <seb_kuzminsky> *rtai-5
[19:22:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master 0e089af 06linuxcnc 10(5 files in 4 dirs) Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.7' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e089af
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[20:17:53] <CaptHindsight> https://bits.debian.org/2015/12/mourning-ian-murdock.html
[20:18:12] <jepler> I saw that news as well. :(
[20:18:26] <CaptHindsight> young guy
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[20:27:47] <jepler> somehow I had former DPL Ian Jackson merged with Debian founder Ian Murdock in my head
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[20:30:15] <mozmck> http://sdtimes.com/ian-murdock-has-died/ - The tweets linked are interesting...
[20:42:48] <cradek> I hope we learn the rest of this story, but I bet we won't.
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[23:21:26] <KGB-wlo> push to master branch:
http://linuxcnc.org/
[23:22:44] <KGB-wlo> push to master branch:
http://linuxcnc.org/
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