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[01:47:21] <jepler> jepler@babs:~/src/hostmot2-firmware$ git grep -i fallback.*true *.vhd
[01:47:22] <jepler> TopPCIHostMot2.vhd: FallBack: boolean := true -- is this a fallback config?
[01:47:30] <jepler> yes I see this file is committed in hostmot2-firmware with fallback set true
[01:49:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 0e40f19 06hostmot2-firmware 10TopPCIHostMot2.vhd pci: don't mark configs as fallback * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=hostmot2-firmware.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e40f19
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[02:36:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris morley 05panelui f7ccee1 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/components/panelui.c panelui -use a simpler function call to python * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=f7ccee1
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[02:36:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris morley 05panelui 743b463 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/pyui/commands.py panelui: dont adjust spindle rpm if its already running. * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=743b463
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[15:22:48] <cncbasher> micges: thanks i found i had the fallback set to true by default as mentioned earlier
[15:23:33] <cncbasher> but that made no difference, and still gave me the fallback once programmed , so need to look further
[15:29:12] <jepler> cncbasher: hi I'm around for a few minutes
[15:30:00] <jepler> cncbasher: you are trying to build a 6i25 firmware image now , is that correct? not just a 5i25 image that can be loaded on 6i25?
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[15:31:20] <jepler> are you doing it based on hostmot2-firmware, or based on files from peter?
[15:33:00] <jepler> if based on hostmot2-firmware.git, I would recommend checking the extra bitgen arguments in cards.py
[15:33:03] <jepler> # Options used by Spartan 6 based designs with fallback space in eeprom
[15:33:06] <jepler> class BitgenCanFallback(Card):
[15:33:08] <jepler> ... many more ... ]
[15:33:11] <jepler> bitgen_extra = ['-g', 'next_config_register_write:disable',
[15:34:08] <jepler> these were *probably* copied from 7i80 or 7i90 and may not be totally correct for 6i25 (or 5i25 for that matter even though I thought that worked)
[15:35:56] <jepler> if a different card needs different options, you could either write bitgen_extra = ... directly in the class for that specific card
[15:36:07] <jepler> or you could create a new class definition that is inherited by one or more cards instead of BitgenCanFallback
[15:36:29] <jepler> that is how hostmot2-firmware.get selects the bitgen options for a particular card
[15:36:32] <jepler> .git
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[16:25:19] <archivist> 404 from the forum http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common_Stepper_Diagnostics.html
[16:25:33] <archivist> urls should be stable
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[16:47:27] <pcw_home> all Mesa spartan 6 FPGA cards need " 'next_config_register_write:disable"
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[16:51:13] <pcw_home> This prevents the FPGA loader from overwriting the SPI EEPROMs user and fallback configuration address pointers
[16:51:15] <pcw_home>
[16:51:43] <pcw_home> (err fallback only)
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[17:01:36] <pcw_home> That is, to have generic, relocatable bitfiles (relocatable in the SPI flash) that dont need special options
[17:01:37] <pcw_home> that make them fail JTAG cofig, you need to ignore the bitfiles configuration addresses that are in the bitfile's header
[17:01:39] <pcw_home> (and retain the addresses put in by the boot sector)
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[17:16:40] <micges> zlog: ahoy
[17:16:40] <zlog> micges: Log stored at http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2015-12-27.html
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[17:47:56] <seb_kuzminsky> archivist: some docs were reorganized for clarity
[17:48:27] <archivist> yes but, that has broken forum links
[17:48:46] <archivist> which is not clear for people googling
[17:48:58] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah :-(
[17:50:32] <archivist> which annoyed me earlier :)
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[17:53:36] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 8dfa610 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/keystick.cc 03src/rtapi/uspace_common.h Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.6' into 2.7 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8dfa610
[17:55:02] <seb_kuzminsky> archivist: links to released documentation should be stable (ie, urls like "http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/...")
[17:55:54] <archivist> I cannot do anything about the forum but moan/point it out
[17:55:56] <seb_kuzminsky> but links that lack a released version in the URL point to "the current release", which changes over time, and may introduce link breakage when we make a new major release (ie, 2.6->2.7)
[17:57:06] <seb_kuzminsky> also, the "common_" part of the link you wrote seems wrong, common is a subdir in our docs tree, never a prefix on a document name
[17:57:13] <seb_kuzminsky> try this: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/common/Stepper_Diagnostics.html
[17:57:56] <archivist> I know where it is, the forum should be fixed not left in a state of useless to users
[17:58:42] <archivist> it forced a second google search on me to find the new place
[17:59:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05master bba906b 06linuxcnc 10(5 files in 3 dirs) Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.7' * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bba906b
[17:59:18] <seb_kuzminsky> where is the place on the forum where you found the bad link?
[17:59:53] <seb_kuzminsky> if it was someone's old message, i don't think i can fix it :-/
[17:59:53] <archivist> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/16-stepconf-wizard/5939-help-solving-joint-following-error
[18:01:46] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, that 2010 message was probably incorrect when it was written, and it's only gotten more incorrect as the docs moved around in the 5 years since then
[18:02:21] <archivist> keeping the version numbers in the url and it remaining stable is the right way I think, the old way is doomed to regular failure
[18:12:14] <seb_kuzminsky> i think the system you describe is pretty much what we do now, except we provide a version-number-less link that points to the current stable release
[18:12:41] <seb_kuzminsky> in addition to the links that have the version number in them
[18:20:21] <archivist> the version-less could/should be gone
[18:21:17] <archivist> some sites grab the dead urls and redirect to working ones
[18:21:56] <archivist> mysql was good at that prior to the fatborg buying Sun
[18:24:05] <seb_kuzminsky> you may be right that the non-versioned links should go away, or be renamed to say "stable" where the version number goes, or something
[18:24:16] <seb_kuzminsky> i don't want to be the guy that maintains the table of remapped urls...
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[18:42:20] <archivist> just needs a clever bit of regexp in an apache redirect
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[19:10:54] <archivist> anyway in todays news, linuxcnc logs the the quality of a worm gearbox
[19:27:19] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop-: while looking at the stepper-diagnostics.html problem archivist reported, i found another problem
[19:27:23] <seb_kuzminsky> html/index.html
[19:27:40] <seb_kuzminsky> it includes those collapsing categories, and the link checker doesnt see them because they're collapsed b default
[19:27:49] <seb_kuzminsky> and there are some broken links there
[19:28:13] <seb_kuzminsky> the Configuration/Stepper Diagnostics one is the one i noticed, there may be others
[19:28:36] <seb_kuzminsky> is there a way to load index.html with all the categories expanded by default?
[19:28:48] <JT-Shop-> yes, let me look
[19:32:58] <archivist> I assume the numbering scheme for motion.analog-in-00 to 03 is with expansion in mind else why were two numerics used :) I can imagine wanting more
[19:33:52] <archivist> on my first attempt at this application I am using 3
[19:51:44] <jepler> 2010 advice may not be good advice in 2015, even if the links aren't 404'd.
[19:52:02] <JT-Shop-> seb_kuzminsky: you want expand all for first session in 2.7 or master?
[19:53:09] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop-: i want to verify all links in all branches on every build
[19:53:20] <seb_kuzminsky> so, i think "both" is the answer to your question
[19:54:08] <JT-Shop-> ok
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[20:21:09] <jthornton-> building the docs now to test
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[20:27:11] <Roguish> hey jthorton, how's the grounding/noise problem.
[20:27:51] <Roguish> I was out of town for the night and came back to a litany of emails about it.
[20:35:29] <JT-Shop> the vfd filter came in as well as the smaller filter for the 120v side I'm installing all that now
[20:35:51] <JT-Shop> had to relocate everything in the vfd cabinet
[20:36:15] <Roguish> more fun than a barrel of monkeys. huh?
[20:37:07] <Roguish> and it will indeed be a better, more robust and reliable system when all is done. have confidence and faith.
[20:38:43] <JT-Shop> well I just plugged the 240v plug in and nothing blew up so that is a good sign
[21:01:50] <JT-Shop> just homed the BP and got a single extra character error from sserial, still have more to do but usable now if needed
[21:02:36] <Roguish> go slow and be very methodical.
[21:05:05] <JT-Shop> I still have more hardware on the way as well as some shielded wire
[21:05:37] <JT-Shop> If I get it down to 0 sserial errors then I'll try 2.7 again
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[21:11:09] <Roguish> the shielded wire is good. be careful how and where the shield is grounded. usually only at one end so there is no ground loop formed.
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[21:19:11] <jthornton> seb_kuzminsky: expanding them as default did not make a difference, which link is bad?
[21:26:52] <seb_kuzminsky> 12:28:13 <+seb_kuzminsky> the Configuration/Stepper Diagnostics one is the one i noticed, there may be others
[21:31:22] <jthornton> I just ran linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html on the w3 online checker with all collapsed and it checked every page
[21:31:40] <jthornton> Line: 177 http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/common/stepper-diagnostics.html
[21:31:40] <jthornton> Status: 404 Not Found
[21:32:21] <jthornton> I did not get that error when I built locally
[21:33:43] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm
[21:35:37] <seb_kuzminsky> what does the localStorage thing do in our index js?
[21:35:47] <Tom_itx> permissions?
[21:35:56] <jthornton> just remembers if a section was expanded or not
[21:37:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.7 d81ec6a 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/index.tmpl Docs: make first opening of html docs expanded so links can be checked. * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d81ec6a
[21:37:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.7 a5afdac 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/index.tmpl Docs: fix bad link * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5afdac
[21:38:00] <seb_kuzminsky> ooh thanks!
[21:38:00] * jthornton heads back to the BP
[21:39:23] <seb_kuzminsky> the local storage is per browser, per page, right? so the w3c-linkchecker shouldn't share chrome's or firefox's local storage?
[21:39:54] <JT-Shop> I thought I reverted that first one :(
[21:40:06] <JT-Shop> yea per browser per page
[21:40:29] <JT-Shop> because it still didn't work on my local machine
[21:40:44] <JT-Shop> I did a git reset --hard
[21:40:50] <JT-Shop> wonder what went wrong
[21:42:03] <JT-Shop> seb_kuzminsky: can you revert d81ec6a?
[21:42:12] <JT-Shop> as it did not do as we wanted
[22:00:07] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop: "git reset --hard" restores your working tree and index to HEAD (the most recent commit)
[22:00:19] <seb_kuzminsky> you probably want "git revert d81ec6a"
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[22:04:07] <JT-Shop> thanks
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[22:49:14] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 291d259 06linuxcnc 10scripts/rtapi.conf.in 10src/configure.in 10src/module_helper/module_helper.c stop looking for the rtai_shm module, it hasn't existed for years * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=291d259
[22:49:14] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 b21f69e 06linuxcnc 10scripts/realtime.in realtime script: detect RTAI correctly * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b21f69e
[22:49:14] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 324b084 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure debian: accept the 3.16.0-9-rtai linux/rtai kernel * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=324b084
[22:49:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 d6ce5e1 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure debian: accept the new style of rtai-modules package name * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6ce5e1
[22:49:20] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 ec06183 06linuxcnc 10src/Makefile.inc.in 10src/configure.in 10src/hal/Submakefile handle building with lxrt.so (RTAI 4.1 and newer) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ec06183
[22:49:24] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 d6da65f 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/rtai_rtapi.c rtapi: teach rtai_rtapi about renamed RTAI constant * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6da65f
[22:49:28] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 aa39754 06linuxcnc 10scripts/rtapi.conf.in 10src/configure.in 10src/rtapi/rtai_rtapi.c teach build system & rtapi about RTAI 5 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=aa39754
[22:49:32] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 d6597fb 06linuxcnc 10tests/symbols.0/test_define.comp 10tests/symbols.0/test_use.comp tests: fix a compiler warning that fails this test on Jessie * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6597fb
[22:49:36] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 3a1f40b 06linuxcnc 10scripts/platform-is-supported buildbot: this branch works under Jessie's RTAI (5.0-test1) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3a1f40b
[22:49:40] <KGB-linuxcnc> 05rtai-5 c39f7c2 06linuxcnc 04. branch deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c39f7c2
[22:49:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 05seb/2.7/rtai5 ce71dc3 06linuxcnc 04. branch deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ce71dc3
[22:54:35] <seb_kuzminsky> that's rtai5 support in 2.7 :-D
[22:55:03] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks jepler for all the help (both on the linuxcnc side and the rtai side) and for the reviews
[22:57:54] <jepler> seb: yay. too bad amd64 is crashy still :(
[22:58:14] <jepler> thanks for deciding the plunge should be taken!
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