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[00:56:56] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky: did anyone come back with insight to the overruns on startup?
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[02:19:47] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: not that i've heard of
[02:21:56] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: yuck, that's no good :-/
[02:25:06] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: not the 32-bit kernel though?
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[02:32:35] <jepler> ugh it looks like phpmailer is *NOT* automatically updated by joomla's update infrasturcutre
[02:32:44] <jepler> *tableflip*
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[02:43:55] <jepler> OK good news is we're not affected due to using sendmail and not smtp
[02:44:24] <jepler> but SUCH ANGRY that joomla's update + apt update together are not enough to keep the site secure
[02:48:07] <seb_kuzminsky> that's craz
[02:48:11] <seb_kuzminsky> *y
[02:56:47] <jepler> it looks like there is a third php package manager, called composer, but the dog ate its metadata and all I have left are the files it installed (in this image that was pre-generated by digitalocean, the hosting provider)
[03:15:34] <seb_kuzminsky> it's like 1993 all over again
[03:16:12] <jepler> you mean I have to take summer school to meet my last high school graduation requirement?
[03:16:39] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, 32-bit rtai5 seems fine, no problems, but 64-bit rtai5 crashes every time or two that the buildbot runs runtests
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[04:09:03] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/lessboost 93e4616 06linuxcnc 10(27 files in 4 dirs) interp: reduce boost python inclusions * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=93e4616
[04:09:03] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/lessboost 76be9fd 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/rs274ngc/array1.hh 10src/emc/task/taskmodule.cc 10src/rtapi/rtapi_pci.cc general: get rid of more boost stuff * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=76be9fd
[04:09:03] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/lessboost 5b717f5 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_internal.hh interp: Use {}-initialization in preference to std::fill * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b717f5
[04:09:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/lessboost 0badb0c 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_internal.hh 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_inverse.cc interp: get rid of MAX macro * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0badb0c
[04:09:09] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/lessboost 126d345 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_internal.hh interp: replace R2D, D2R, SQ macros with functions * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=126d345
[04:09:13] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/lessboost e1e21ab 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_internal.hh interp: replace round_to_int with template * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e1e21ab
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[12:53:09] <jthornton> when I try and open probe-hole.ngc I get an error about no percent sign or program end. It is a subroutine, should there be a directory for subroutines?
[12:55:05] <Tom_itx> mine has a % at the end
[12:56:28] <jthornton> 2.7?
[12:58:00] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/touch_routines/
[12:58:10] <Tom_itx> cradek's routines iirc
[12:58:24] <jthornton> thanks
[12:58:48] <Tom_itx> i couldn't find em on the web yesterday
[12:58:55] <Tom_itx> i'm sure they're still there
[12:59:40] <Tom_itx> later..
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[14:19:38] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, same issue with the 64 bit kernel on the hardware I have been testing.
[14:20:30] <skunkworks> 1ms at startup - it is funny that it doesn't show the latency error message in the terminal like I used to remember seeing it - but it does show up in dmesg
[14:21:13] <skunkworks> when the system shuts down - it seems to hang at a flashing cursor also. (both did this)
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[14:28:36] <linuxcnc-build> build #3748 of 1300.rip-precise-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1300.rip-precise-i386/builds/3748 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[14:29:01] <linuxcnc-build> build #3750 of 1306.rip-precise-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1306.rip-precise-amd64/builds/3750 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[14:31:55] <linuxcnc-build> build #2958 of 1301.rip-precise-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1301.rip-precise-rtai-i386/builds/2958 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[14:32:58] <linuxcnc-build> build #1908 of 1400.rip-wheezy-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1400.rip-wheezy-i386/builds/1908 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[14:33:02] <linuxcnc-build> build #1909 of 1403.rip-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1403.rip-wheezy-amd64/builds/1909 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[14:33:53] <linuxcnc-build> build #1419 of 1402.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1402.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386/builds/1419 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[14:34:00] <linuxcnc-build> build #376 of 1520.rip-jessie-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1520.rip-jessie-amd64/builds/376 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[14:34:43] <linuxcnc-build> build #376 of 1500.rip-jessie-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1500.rip-jessie-i386/builds/376 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[14:34:45] <linuxcnc-build> build #376 of 1530.rip-jessie-rtpreempt-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1530.rip-jessie-rtpreempt-amd64/builds/376 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
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[14:35:00] <linuxcnc-build> build #376 of 1510.rip-jessie-rtpreempt-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1510.rip-jessie-rtpreempt-i386/builds/376 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[14:36:10] <linuxcnc-build> build #1574 of 1401.rip-wheezy-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1401.rip-wheezy-rtai-i386/builds/1574 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[14:45:08] <jepler> kaboom
[14:45:59] <jepler> huh I did runtests && git push, I wonder why I didn't see those failures.
[14:46:13] <linuxcnc-build> build #1941 of 1405.rip-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1405.rip-wheezy-armhf/builds/1941 blamelist: Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>
[14:53:22] <jepler> oh I bet I'd just built the commit before, in order to get the timing information in that commit message :-/
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[17:12:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/lessboost 1a6f213 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_setup.cc interp: use {}-initializers in setup_struct constructor * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1a6f213
[17:12:17] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/lessboost e38ff45 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_remap.cc interp: prefer std::fill to memset * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e38ff45
[17:12:17] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/lessboost 0b5fdb7 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_internal.hh 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_setup.cc interp: move a constructor out of line * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0b5fdb7
[17:12:19] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05jepler/lessboost acb4fc7 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_setup.cc interp: warn about missing field initializers * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=acb4fc7
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[17:23:11] <skunkworks> jepler, can boost be removed totally?
[17:23:28] <skunkworks> and why? is it like using duct tape?
[17:27:15] <jepler> skunkworks: no, it's not feasible right now
[17:27:35] <jepler> skunkworks: boost::python is heavily used in the implementation of "remap", which I don't think I'd be thanked for removing.
[17:27:53] <skunkworks> heh
[17:28:06] <jepler> but by reducing the amount of places that boost is used, I've trimmed compile times by a minute or more on my i5 laptop
[17:29:14] <skunkworks> neat
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[17:32:56] <skunkworks> Could remap be done another way?
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[17:32:58] <seb_kuzminsky> nice
[17:33:11] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, did you see my comments above ^
[17:33:35] <jepler> skunkworks: could, yes. but it would be a fair to large amount of work, approximately equal to implementing remap in the first place
[17:33:44] <skunkworks> these where both intel systems - I will test some amd's
[17:33:55] <skunkworks> jepler, ah.
[17:34:48] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: i saw it, thanks
[17:35:28] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm having crashes with the rtai amd64 kernel every other time or so that i run the linuxcnc test suite, i'm working through it with paolo on the rtai list
[17:35:42] <seb_kuzminsky> the rtai i386 kernel seems solid
[17:35:59] <seb_kuzminsky> so don't spend too much time testing it until we get this known problem fixed
[17:46:36] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, I do get this on both kernels though (32/64)
[17:46:36] <skunkworks> http://imgur.com/PjX2fFG
[17:46:46] <skunkworks> like I say - I will try some more hardware.
[17:48:55] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, ouch :-/
[17:52:15] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, notice the max interval is still around 1ms..
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[18:04:29] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah that's terrible :-(
[18:04:48] <seb_kuzminsky> is it true that you don't see that crazy lag on i386?
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[18:30:16] <skunkworks> no - same lag
[18:30:47] <skunkworks> if you hit reset - it runs low latency indefinatly (Iirc.)
[18:31:56] <seb_kuzminsky> ok
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[18:45:16] <Roguish> seb_kuzminsky: I have a jessie with vanilla mate and amd64 with rtai-5 patched kernel. I get the same realtime errors as skunkworks.
[18:54:02] <Roguish> I can post an image, if you like. No real issue here. it's just a test system I mess around with. If you need testing, let me know. I am happy to contribute what I can, which is mostly just testing.
[18:55:48] <skunkworks> I resemble that remark
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[19:25:16] <CaptHindsight> http://pine64.com/ quad core 64b ARM board for $15 with 2GB DDR3, might be zippy enough for Linuxcnc and hm2_eth or spi
[19:41:26] <jepler> The 2GB RAM version is $29. No block diagram so it's unknown whether the ethernet is on the usb bus but I'd bet it is.
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[19:44:32] <jepler> I'm still bummed by dragonboard's wifi being broken, but at least linuxcnc uspace port is ready for arm64
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[20:34:46] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Jeff Epler 05master 4e3fe5a 06linuxcnc 10src/libnml/cms/cms_srv.cc cms: silence scan-build zero byte allocation warning * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e3fe5a
[20:35:33] <jepler> hm that's a strange way for kgb to summarize my push
[20:35:38] <jepler> I also merged lessboost to master
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[21:17:23] <seb_kuzminsky> Roguish: thanks for the offer, that's really helpful
[21:17:50] <seb_kuzminsky> at this point i think i need to work with th rtai gurus to resolve the hand i get on the buildbot with amd64
[21:18:48] <seb_kuzminsky> artist's conception, based on leaked dimensions of the SpaceX BFR:
http://i.imgur.com/n2mJI8s.jpg
[21:18:56] <seb_kuzminsky> (that's a Falcon 9 on the left)
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[21:30:53] <jepler> As romantic as a human presence in space is, at this point I think I'd rather see an unmanned sample-return mission to Mars or unmanned landing missions on the geologically interesting moons of Jupiter and Saturn than human space exploration.
[21:32:54] <jepler> (except Europa. Attempt no landings there)
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[22:12:15] <seb_kuzminsky> europa's a tricky place for landers, due to the high radiation flux
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[22:17:21] <jepler> > The European Space Agency's Jupiter Icy Moon Explorer (JUICE) is a mission to Europa that is due to launch in 2022.[18]
[22:17:25] <jepler> well done on the acronym
[22:20:07] <seb_kuzminsky> i just spoke to one of the PIs on New Horizons, he said they're planning a robotic mission to orbit europa in the 30s, with a very high, very elliptical orbit to get close flybys without spending so much time in the radiation soup
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[22:21:27] <seb_kuzminsky> probably separate from the ESA missing
[22:21:32] <seb_kuzminsky> *mission
[22:22:33] <jepler> wikipedia also knows about NASA's Europa Multiple-Flyby Mission which it says will launch between 2022 and 2025
[22:23:51] <jepler> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Multiple-Flyby_Mission#Strategy
[22:24:23] <jepler> good point about the craft needing to survive long enough to transmit its observational data back to earth
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[22:25:35] <jepler> ugh why don't we build RTGs anymore
[22:25:57] <jepler> or VW-bus-sized nuclear reactors
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[22:54:33] <jepler> > Joomla just issued a emergency security patch after Sucuri observed a large number of attacks on Joomla sites using malicious user-agent strings. Attackers were adding malicious code to custom-made user-agent strings, which were not sanitized and stored in the database. These allowed attackers to trigger remote code on the site and grant them a backdoor into targeted websites
[22:54:39] <jepler> ffffff
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[23:04:31] <JT-Shop> yikes
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[23:27:24] <seb_kuzminsky> yuck
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