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[00:07:33] <malcom2073> Lol
[00:07:53] * JT-Shop has to look now
[00:10:12] <malcom2073> Haha
[00:10:19] <malcom2073> "I can just write some LUA code to fix this"
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[00:12:31] <cradek> a gui reading the var file to present offsets to the user is doing the wrong thing
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[00:16:36] <JT-Shop> yep
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[00:20:16] <mozmck> jepler: in order to be modern, the solution surely should be on the cloud.
[00:20:24] <JT-Shop> lol
[00:20:32] <Roguish> make a phone app
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[00:20:52] <JT-Shop> eyepad
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[00:22:06] <andypugh> I made a start on using SQL for the tool table…
[00:22:45] <mozmck> Doesn't pathpilot do that?
[00:23:31] <andypugh> It might. I know that I talked through the database format with Tormach.
[00:23:55] <andypugh> It would be interesting to see if they went with it.
[00:24:16] <mozmck> The source is available... I downloaded it but haven't had time to look at it yet.
[00:25:26] <JT-Shop> someone emailed the source to me... what a drain on my bandwidth
[00:25:45] <andypugh> It is possible that they went half-way, and just replaces the tool table file, rather than the whole tool offset transfer mechanism.
[00:26:46] <andypugh> It would be kind of annoying if they were using my work, and linuxCNC wasn’t.
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[01:25:28] <jepler> cradek: I didn't want to even mention that bridge by name
[01:25:42] <jepler> tormach put all offsets in the stat buffer, I can tell you that much
[01:26:19] <jepler> cradek: unfortunately we can't currently offer any method *besides* parsing the var file, for a GUI that must display ALL offsets and not the active offset
[01:26:33] <jepler> I don't know what user story there is for viewing ALL offsets
[01:26:57] <jepler> do you check them against the correct offsets shown on a laminated card by the machine?
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[02:40:49] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Robert Ellenberg 05feature/reverse-run-master2 85ea15f 06linuxcnc New branch with 47 commits pushed, 1025 files changed, 03453(+), 04103(-) since master/fe60c7f
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[03:53:19] <cradek> jepler: ooh could we isolate that tormach change?
[03:54:16] <cradek> jepler: maybe one user story is "I want to see if they're all cleared out"?
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[03:56:56] <seb_kuzminsky> yay, rob updated the test that failed in the uvw branch
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[12:33:50] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, the rtai latency ran all night without an over run but if I restart the latency test I get a couple dozen increase in the over run number.
[12:34:22] <skunkworks> (without a high ovl max)
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[14:29:58] <skunkworks> with move-off and reverse run.. the only thing missing is setting the tool lenght...
[14:30:21] <skunkworks> and if you can set the tool lenght acurately - it isn't a problem :)
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[14:42:46] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, running the wheezy livecd - I don't get any overruns at startup of the rtai.
[14:42:57] <skunkworks> on the same hardware
[14:51:33] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky,
http://pastebin.com/qUf44tFg
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[15:45:48] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: weird
[15:47:25] <seb_kuzminsky> that's all with the linuxcnc latency-test program, right? can you check it with the rtai latency test, /usr/realtime-3.16.0-9-rtai-686-pae/testsuite/kern/latency
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[15:49:17] <skunkworks> that is the rtai latency test.
[15:49:29] <skunkworks> ./run in the latency directory
[15:51:52] <seb_kuzminsky> oh.
[15:51:53] <seb_kuzminsky> hm
[15:52:11] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, let's do this
[15:52:44] <seb_kuzminsky> run "sudo dmesg -c", then "./run", then "dmesg", and email the output of the "run" and the final "dmesg" to the rtai list
[15:52:56] <seb_kuzminsky> we'll see if we can get the rtai gurus' input on it
[15:53:24] <seb_kuzminsky> or you can send it to me and i'll forward it on to the rtai list if you don't want to sign up
[15:54:37] <seb_kuzminsky> or maybe as a first step, pastebin the run & dmesg and i'll take a look at it
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[15:58:09] <skunkworks> ok
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[16:02:06] <skunkworks_> seb_kuzminsky:
http://pastebin.com/xCRqDFb1
[16:03:40] <skunkworks_> every once in a great while the overrun will be 0 when starting rtai
[16:03:40] <seb_kuzminsky> thx
[16:03:49] <skunkworks_> like maybe 1 out of 10
[16:04:53] <seb_kuzminsky> and on the wheezy 3.4-rtai kernel it always starts out with 0 overruns?
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[16:05:21] <skunkworks_> yes
[16:05:41] <seb_kuzminsky> ok, i dont see anything goofy in the dmesg, i'm going to ping the rtai list about it
[16:05:55] <skunkworks_> thank you!
[16:13:42] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks for the testing
[16:13:56] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm embarrassed to admit i've not tested carefully on real hardware
[16:14:32] <seb_kuzminsky> i do all my development in virtual machines, and i have only booted that kernel on two real machines, and i haven't paid careful attention like you do
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[16:16:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_updates e0d5994 06linuxcnc 10docs/man/man1/halui.1 10docs/man/man9/lineardeltakins.9 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_convert.cc 10src/emc/usr_intf/keystick.cc fix some compiler warnings (edit errors) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0d5994
[16:16:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_updates 88a1003 06linuxcnc 10(11 files in 4 dirs) tklinuxcnc: sim configs update * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=88a1003
[16:16:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_updates 2195f83 06linuxcnc 10(6 files in 2 dirs) tklinuxcnc gui: update for joints_axes * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2195f83
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[16:18:53] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr is a hero
[16:20:13] <skunkworks> did you see his video?
[16:21:16] <skunkworks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdvcHJeDoEI
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[16:31:03] <seb_kuzminsky> wow, very cool
[16:31:21] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder if incremental jogging works in axis, i noticed he went to hal to do it
[16:31:31] <seb_kuzminsky> in world-mode, i mean
[16:39:12] <cradek> world incremental jogging has worked in ja/axis for a long time
[16:39:20] <cradek> dgarr added world-mode wheel jogging
[16:39:37] <cradek> (which is the awesomest)
[16:39:57] <seb_kuzminsky> oh, right
[16:42:07] <cradek> that video shows some great testing
[16:42:12] <cradek> very sweet
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[16:45:55] <skunkworks> http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,31039.msg217674.html#msg217674
[16:46:05] <skunkworks> I don't think the last poster quite understands the problem/
[16:46:34] <skunkworks> So - uvw and reverse run. Thoughts?
[17:12:46] <seb_kuzminsky> Todd Zuercher just reported (i think) that the uvw branch is not quite all the way ready yet
[17:14:19] <skunkworks> really>
[17:15:28] <skunkworks> last I see is rob tweeked the niave cam detector to do uvw and todd was hoping to test some more. It ran slight slower than just z because of it.
[17:17:28] <seb_kuzminsky> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/60934
[17:23:13] <skunkworks> I don't know if that is an issue... But at this point this many axis is getting out of my comfort zone.
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[17:24:34] <skunkworks> you have 2 joints that are moving in a way that will make it appear like you are going faster than you actually are.. (2 heads (axis) vs 2 joints making up 1 axis)
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[18:12:32] <skunkworks> I say we merge it all. joints/axis, uvw, reverse run!
[18:12:41] <skunkworks> let users sort it out ;)
[18:13:56] <archivist> that may confuse a few......
[18:14:55] <skunkworks> certainly.
[18:15:03] <jepler> skunkworks: better choose some other name for your own project which will never have a stable release version again
[18:15:17] <skunkworks> hey - rob had almost the same answer I had..
[18:15:33] <archivist> I can see how the css for rotaries can be a simple addition soon :)
[18:15:56] <skunkworks> jepler, have faith ;)
[18:17:00] <skunkworks> That's - I am forking. Tuxkit it is!
[18:18:06] <jepler> hmmmm
[18:18:24] <jepler> several tastes that have a different distinctive taste when combined
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[18:25:17] <CaptHindsight> any thoughts on a Linuxcnc-fest for next summer? It will be 3 years since the last great fest in Wichita
[18:26:08] <seb_kuzminsky> there was one in texas fall 2014, it was really fun
[18:26:18] <seb_kuzminsky> i'd love to go to a fest soon again
[18:26:29] <archivist> I am waiting for the UK one :)
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[18:30:08] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxCNC_Integrator_Meeting_2014_Germany
[18:30:52] <CaptHindsight> lotsa robots
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[18:37:06] <seb_kuzminsky> that's cool
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[19:16:43] <lair82> Hey guys, we resolved the problem with my rotary table fiasco, I didn't have the encoder.position signal connected to the pid.a.feedback pin. Kind of important, typo on my part, but it is running now, and I am in the middle of tuning it. So Thank you for all the help this last week,
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[19:21:04] <cradek> yay
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[20:40:07] <skunkworks_> http://imgur.com/XfjN0KQ running the uvw branch
[20:41:49] <seb_kuzminsky> wow that's great
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[20:55:15] <skunkworks_> http://imgur.com/a/0jeQs
[20:55:46] <skunkworks> copying the moves to uvw
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