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[00:00:15] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1733 of 4009.deb-precise-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
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[00:05:57] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1473 of 4016.deb-wheezy-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
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[00:05:57] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1475 of 4017.deb-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
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[00:07:01] <linuxcnc-build_> build #122 of 4019.deb-jessie-rtpreempt-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4019.deb-jessie-rtpreempt-i386/builds/122 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[00:08:37] <cradek> skunkworks: yeah, that's going to really be weird if you rotate just one of the two coordinate systems
[00:09:51] <linuxcnc-build_> build #152 of 4022.deb-jessie-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4022.deb-jessie-amd64/builds/152 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[00:09:51] <linuxcnc-build_> build #153 of 4021.deb-jessie-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4021.deb-jessie-i386/builds/153 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
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[00:31:41] <jepler> skunkworks: aha
[00:31:48] <jepler> skunkworks: trippy
[00:31:52] <andypugh> I wonder what xu blending looks like? Maybe it is one of those things that looks easier in the code than in the imagination. I once wrote some code to do least-squares fit of data to 3D polynomial surfaces, and when I had the code in front of me it was trivial to extend that to 7-dimensional hypersurfaces. I had no idea what they would be, but I did actually have data with 7 degrees of freedom and one output val
[00:31:52] <andypugh> so it was useful to be able to do that.
[00:34:45] <andypugh> Anyway, work tomorrow, and still recovering from Sunday (basically driving a variety of vehicles from 0530 to 2330) so time to sleep
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[01:51:39] <skunkworks> http://imgur.com/a/z31sj
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[13:51:35] <skunkworks> jthornton: you could use uspace (rt-preempt) to run your mesa cards..
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[13:54:37] <mozmck> hmm, that's true - I forget that.
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[13:55:00] <mozmck> you scared him off
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[14:09:48] <jepler> I'm way behind on the mailing lists again :-/
[14:10:07] <cradek> I noticed this morning I'm way behind on doing dishes
[14:11:21] <archivist> paper plates->/dev/bin :)
[14:12:23] <cradek> noooo
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[14:19:49] <mozmck> cradek must have been reading the forum
[14:31:32] <skunkworks> heh
[14:32:22] <skunkworks> So - who wants to modify tort.py to just do xyz-uvw (and also randomly select each axis) No pressure.
[14:33:16] <skunkworks> I am creating gcode that runs xyz-uvw line segments - but arc->uvw needs to be tested also
[14:33:35] <skunkworks> which tort does for the most part.
[14:58:09] <cradek> mozmck: ?
[15:00:08] <cradek> I sure appreciate you guys who take time to answer questions on the forum.
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[15:04:54] <cradek> (I'm pretty sure andypugh guessed the answer to what that guy did wrong that made him whine about how we all must want linuxcnc to fail)
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[15:48:49] <mozmck> cradek: I was just teasing - as in, you must have been reading the forum because you didn't have time to do the dishes!
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[15:53:40] <cradek> ahh
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[15:54:08] <cradek> you did cause me to look at the forum and find something that made me roll my eyes, though
[15:54:20] <cradek> c
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[15:54:48] <cradek> and while I was doing that, andy and cmorley and jt were actually trying to help
[15:55:06] <mozmck> :) it probably was a poor joke. I see andy posted the article I mentioned the other day - beat me to it.
[15:56:06] <cradek> yeah I'm glad he did that
[15:56:35] <mozmck> I was made a moderator on the forum a long time ago, but I rarely do any of that or even go to it. One nice thing is that because of that, I get an email for every post - with the whole post in it and not just the title.
[15:56:43] <mozmck> So it's almost like a mailing list for me.
[15:57:17] <cradek> the forum is sure easier for "I want to fire off a question and get a fast answer from you support people" and if you're in that mode, I can see why you'd be baffled by someone pointing you to a mailing list
[15:57:34] <cradek> I use rss2email to get individual emails for forum posts
[15:57:45] <cradek> it makes them easy to scan/read, but tedious to reply to
[15:58:12] <mozmck> yes, I still have to go to the forum to post, but that's not much problem IMO.
[15:58:23] <cradek> I don't even know how I would use the web interface to see all the new (and just the new) posts
[15:58:33] <cradek> yep
[15:58:47] <mozmck> Some (most?) forums have a link for that
[15:59:14] <cradek> I guess you use the thing that shows you the latest updated threads, and on each one you read down (up?) until you recognize something you read previously?
[15:59:30] <cradek> for each thread
[16:00:22] <mozmck> yeah, looks like. phpbb has a couple of links - one for unread posts, and one for new posts
[16:01:07] <mozmck> also unanswered posts and active topics...
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[16:03:09] <jepler> sigh
[16:03:18] <jepler> I'm sorry kunena's bad forum software
[16:04:19] <cradek> I have never seen anyone on the forum call this particular forum worse than other particular forums
[16:04:45] <cradek> so I guess I have to conclude that it's exactly what people want, or at least expect
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[16:09:28] <mozmck> jepler: it seems fine to me. I really like how it will send me all the posts in email - phpbb will not do that and they claim it's a feature because it's a *web* forum!
[16:11:48] <mozmck> cradek: I didn't know about rss2email - I need to look into that for a phpbb forum I'm on.
[16:15:22] <mozmck> The only forum software I would really like is one that looks like a forum on the web, but acts exactly like a mailing list :) It looks like Google groups actually does that pretty well, and I hear Discourse does it as well, but I haven't tried that out.
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[16:25:47] <cradek> I also use rss2email to scrape craigslist and watch for certain things (you can rss a certain search)
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[16:40:51] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cradek: i made that panel we talked about the other weekend, using Features:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/100485913608507523323/albums/6212222998833613713/6212223000753925778
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[16:41:56] <seb_kuzminsky> might wire up the 50-pin connector between the robot arm and the 7i54 tonight at the hackspace
[16:42:25] <seb_kuzminsky> or i may be responsible instead and work on converting the static parts of wlo to jekyll
[16:46:49] <cradek> nice panel!
[16:46:59] <cradek> did you find a box with a power supply that will run the motors?
[16:47:42] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah, there was one in the junk pile
[16:48:44] <seb_kuzminsky> i think it used to have a gigantic scsi disk or tape drive or something in it, back in like 1991
[16:50:34] <cradek> sure, that's where nice boxes come from
[16:51:25] <cradek> do you like features? it sure looks useful to me.
[16:51:48] <seb_kuzminsky> i do like it
[16:51:51] <seb_kuzminsky> it's a promising start
[16:52:00] <seb_kuzminsky> it still needs some work
[16:52:05] <cradek> sure
[16:53:39] <seb_kuzminsky> adding new features to Features was refreshingly easy
[16:53:52] <seb_kuzminsky> using it was intuitive and pointy-clicky
[16:54:23] <seb_kuzminsky> there were some things i wanted to do that i couldnt figure out, with grouping and translating
[16:55:15] <seb_kuzminsky> and it struck me that maybe translation of features should be abstracted better
[16:55:41] <seb_kuzminsky> it's currently the case that each feature asks the user for location, then the gcode sub gets parameters that say where to make the feature
[16:56:32] <seb_kuzminsky> it might be cleaner if Features handled the location (by setting one of the G5x coordinate systems to where the feature should be), then called the feature's gcode sub, and the sub makes the feature at (0, 0) in that coordinate system
[16:56:43] <seb_kuzminsky> ie, in "the feature's coordinate system"
[17:00:57] <cradek> because it would make writing the feature gcode itself a little cleaner?
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[17:07:44] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah
[17:08:34] <seb_kuzminsky> it would factor out that particular thing that all features have in common, and currently each implement separately
[17:11:15] <seb_kuzminsky> and it seems like the kind of thing coordinate systems *[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[Care for*
[17:12:12] <seb_kuzminsky> err i have a stutter apparently
[17:12:23] <mozmck> unprintable one at that
[17:12:41] <mozmck> I get square boxes with 0018 in them for half of that :)
[17:13:09] <seb_kuzminsky> someone revoke my keyboard license
[17:14:39] <seb_kuzminsky> i should invent an irc client with git for the front-end, so i can rebase what i type before i push it into public
[17:15:15] <cradek> people have become momentarily internet-famous for doing (even) more ridiculous things
[17:16:07] <archivist> one would still publish before noticing the tyop
[17:16:32] <cradek> then you just make a client that parses things like s/tyop/typo/
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[17:17:16] <archivist> I took that out in xchat a deliberate teh was being fixed!
[17:17:30] <cradek> ha
[17:17:34] <cradek> but that's not what I mean
[17:17:55] <cradek> when *I* type s/the/teh/ it would cause *your* client to edit my last statement accordingly
[17:18:32] <archivist> there is a bot in #httpd that knows the /s/sitnax/syntax
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[17:19:11] <seb_kuzminsky> i still sometimes lie awake at night thinking about the typo i put in the 2.6.3 debian/changelog
[17:19:26] <seb_kuzminsky> and how jepler made fun of me for it
[17:19:54] <cradek> wow, if I lost sleep every time jepler made fun of me, I'd be in rough shape.
[17:20:18] <seb_kuzminsky> haha
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[20:15:37] <skunkworks> pretty?
http://imgur.com/xl4pqBw
[20:17:02] <cradek> cool!
[20:18:24] <skunkworks> segments need to be longer
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[20:37:06] <skunkworks> that is better
http://imgur.com/I6zwM6L
[20:37:34] <skunkworks> I am approaching max velocity on xyzuvw axis
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[20:55:27] <JT-Shop> looks like a Galaxy
[20:56:15] <skunkworks> zlog
[20:56:15] <zlog> skunkworks: Log stored at
http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2015-11-03.html
[20:56:40] <skunkworks> Tom_itx: your logger seems to be down atm
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[21:18:20] <Tom_itx> zlog
[21:18:20] <zlog> Tom_itx: Log stored at
http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2015-11-03.html
[21:20:01] <Tom_itx> must be the dyndns server
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[21:29:01] <Tom_itx> i'll fix it in a bit.. it's still logging
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[22:41:15] <Tom_itx> zlog
[22:41:15] <zlog> Tom_itx: Log stored at
http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2015-11-03.html
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[22:49:07] <Tom_itx> skunkworks should be back up now
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[23:13:51] <seb_kuzminsky> Tom_itx: looks good, thanks
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[23:30:27] <mozmck> skunkworks:
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bfs/5260163342.html
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[23:44:30] <seb_kuzminsky> tell then aww, that's a crappy old controller, take $2k off the price
[23:47:08] <mozmck> yeah, I'm still trying to find a small vmc like that near me for $1000 or less with a bad controller ;)