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[00:24:50] <ssi> PCW: confused about PTOC and GTOC... the way rene's got the remote code written now, the modes are in the GTOC. The manuals make it sound like modes should be in PTOC, and they don't describe the GTOC at all
[00:25:10] <ssi> I transcribed the whole exchange, and the host is reading the whole GTOC first, then the PTOC
[00:25:21] <ssi> the pd records show up in dmesg, but the modes and globals don't
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[03:30:21] <pcw_home> modes are in the GTOC once a mode is selected the PTOC changes (to reflect the changed process data for the selected mode)
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[04:10:55] <ssi> hm
[04:11:45] <ssi> and process data descriptors that are in the gtoc represent globals, yes?
[04:12:42] <ssi> we can't figure out why the modes and globals that we're sending in the gtoc aren't showing up in dmesg. The two process variables we defined in ptoc are showing up
[04:24:09] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 052.7 3647ab4 06linuxcnc 10scripts/rip-environment.in rip-environment.in * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3647ab4
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[11:17:44] <jthornton> seb_kuzminsky, fixed
[11:17:55] <jthornton> for news items don't check front page
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[13:50:43] <skunkworks> So - how could I create some xyzuvw programs?
[13:50:55] <skunkworks> To test circular arc blending?
[13:58:32] <skunkworks> I guess initally I could just change some programs to from xyz to uvw
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[14:07:42] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky: rob rebased the reverse run on master..
https://github.com/robEllenberg/linuxcnc-mirror/tree/feature/reverse-run-master
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[14:23:37] <cradek> oh hey, releases!
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[14:55:15] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: thank you for releases
[14:55:23] <jepler> man(n)a from the man
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[15:12:31] <seb_kuzminsky> welcome :-)
[15:23:26] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: neat
[15:23:47] <seb_kuzminsky> i haven't looked at it yet, but it sounds like a useful thing to have
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[15:52:32] <skunkworks> cradek: interesting question.. Why would the exact same program take longer running in uvw space vs xyz space in 2.6?
[15:52:58] <skunkworks> it doesn't seem to be in 'exact stop' mode.
[15:53:59] <cradek> no ncd
[15:54:06] <skunkworks> oh...
[15:54:11] <skunkworks> dij
[15:54:14] <skunkworks> duh
[15:54:17] <ssi> ncd?
[15:54:37] <skunkworks> naive cam detector
[15:54:41] <ssi> ah
[15:54:47] <ssi> that's segment blending?
[15:54:49] <skunkworks> (tries to combine lines and such...)
[15:54:56] <ssi> right
[15:55:43] <jepler> blending (overlapping the accel phase of the next planner item with the decel phase of this planner item) works for UVW
[15:56:20] <jepler> the "naive cam detector" is a system that combines multiple nearly colinear G1s into a single G1, much earlier in the whole process
[15:56:21] <skunkworks> yes
[15:56:30] <jepler> and that doesn't work on UVW axis motion
[15:56:33] <skunkworks> this makes total sense now.
[15:57:04] <skunkworks> because robs cab for uvw runs a bit slower.
[15:57:25] <skunkworks> I totally forgot about nad
[15:57:29] <skunkworks> ncd
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[16:09:29] <skunkworks> ok - with g64P.1Q0 - the both run the same time.
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[17:13:13] <jepler> that essentially confirms NCD as the difference
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[17:23:45] <skunkworks> sure
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[18:44:36] <skunkworks_> http://imgur.com/a/klATY
[18:45:11] <skunkworks_> a 3d_chips with xyz moves and identical uvw moves
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[18:57:35] <skunkworks> 2.6 vs robs branch
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[19:49:13] <andypugh> Does anyone here know anything about canterp?
[19:51:38] <andypugh> It seems like a perfect match for a STEP-NC interpreter that exists (by Tom Kramer and Mark Pictor) so it feels like everything is there, except “something” needs to feed the file to canterp.
[19:52:14] <cradek> I think canterp is gone from linuxcnc
[19:52:28] <cradek> I don't think it's ever worked since (maybe) emc1
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[19:52:57] <Tom_itx> it showed up in machinekit upon a google search
[19:53:32] <andypugh> The code is still there
[19:54:01] <andypugh> src/emc/canterp
[19:56:16] <cradek> INTERPRETER = libcanterp.so
[19:56:21] <cradek> see 4ea57f9b1 ?
[19:57:05] <cradek> looks like canterp was revived in 2010: afde7679
[20:00:56] <andypugh> Interesting
[20:01:38] <andypugh> With the canterp sim I get “ERROR 5” trying to run the output of a STEP_NC preprocessor.
[20:02:28] <cradek> that sounds like an unhelpful error
[20:03:59] <andypugh> I confess it isn’t helping me very much
[20:08:58] <seb_kuzminsky> is canterp a drop-in for the interpreter, but that reads files of canon commands and passes them through 1-for-1 to canon calls?
[20:09:12] <andypugh> I think that’s the idea
[20:09:50] <andypugh> And
https://code.google.com/p/iso-14649-toolkit/ outputs in that format from STEP-NC
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[20:12:48] <andypugh> I am trying to use something other than Axis, but my DISPLAY = is being ignored. Presumably I am editing the wrong INI file
[20:13:28] <andypugh> Ah, yes, that’s better
[20:21:05] <andypugh> tklinuxcnc shows error 5 too, so it isn’t _only_ about the warning in the commit.
[20:21:38] <andypugh> But, someone on the forum has a €10,000 budget to get STEP-NC running on LinuxCNC as a university project.
[20:21:49] <andypugh> And it seems that many of the parts are there.
[20:22:02] <andypugh> Ideally you wouldb’t go via the canterp file step
[20:22:17] <andypugh> (ie, step-NC direct to canon calls would be best)
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[20:31:53] <skunkworks> wow - we have a few older dell precision workstations - they are like Chinese puzzle boxes.
[20:36:11] <andypugh> cradek: Ah, ERROR 5 == INTERP_ERROR, which canterp issues at the slightest provocation :-)
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[20:59:11] <andypugh> OK, I probably have better things to be doing than writing an interpreter from scratch in Python, especially one that only says “hello world” when used ;-)
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[21:29:23] <jepler> is skunkworks's imgur showing that 2.7 is faster than 2.6 even when uvw moves are involved?
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[23:10:23] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 052.7 14e669e 06linuxcnc 10scripts/linuxcnc.in 10scripts/rip-environment.in linuxcnc.in: export LINUXCNC_NCFILES_DIR * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=14e669e
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[23:26:00] <skunkworks> jepler: rob has a branc where he extended cab to uvw
[23:26:49] <skunkworks> https://github.com/robEllenberg/linuxcnc-mirror/tree/feature/uvw-blending-dev
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[23:34:33] <skunkworks> cradek: rotating coordinate system only aplies to xyzI assume? rotating a combined uvw program looks interesting :)
[23:34:36] <skunkworks> http://imgur.com/hCLAM5j
[23:47:53] <skunkworks> I assume at some point in the xyz all bit cancels out the uvw moves
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