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[00:00:22] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: you fixed it already?
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[00:02:39] <cradek> > We're sorry -- the Sourceforge site is currently in Disaster Recovery mode
[00:04:02] <cradek> The sourceforge.net website is temporarily in static offline mode.
[00:04:04] <cradek> Only a very limited set of project pages are available until the main website returns to service.
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[00:09:31] <jepler> oops
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[01:05:29] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: i think i got it fixed but i gotta clean it up and get it reviewed
[01:06:08] <cradek> yay, thanks for working on it
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[01:50:20] <KGB-linuxcnc> 05dgarr/ja_configs 11e047f 06linuxcnc 04. branch deleted * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=11e047f
[01:50:40] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_configs 210cdb1 06linuxcnc 10(8 files) hallib: use [KINS]JOINTS (not [TRAJ]AXES) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=210cdb1
[01:50:40] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_configs 94eded6 06linuxcnc 10(6 files) sim/axis/ngcgui fix helper file names * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=94eded6
[01:50:40] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_configs c88f2c7 06linuxcnc 10(8 files in 7 dirs) sim configs add dummy joint_1 for lathes * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=c88f2c7
[01:50:41] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_configs 3307430 06linuxcnc 10(64 files in 28 dirs) sim/axis configs use [KINS]JOINTS (not [TRAJ]AXES) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3307430
[01:50:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_configs 441f576 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/pyvcp_demo/pyvcp_demo1.ini sim/pyvcp_demo/ use [KINS]JOINTS (not [TRAJ]AXES) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=441f576
[01:50:51] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_configs bcef202 06linuxcnc 10(7 files in 3 dirs) sim/touchy/ use [KINS]JOINTS (not [TRAJ]AXES) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bcef202
[01:50:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_configs fd60b0d 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/tklinuxcnc/servo_sim.ini 10configs/sim/tklinuxcnc/tklinuxcnc.ini 10configs/sim/tklinuxcnc/tripod.ini 10tcl/tklinuxcnc.tcl sim/tklinuxcnc/ use [KINS]JOINTS (not [TRAJ]AXES) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=fd60b0d
[01:51:00] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_configs b75b88f 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/low_graphics/keystick.ini 10configs/sim/low_graphics/xlinuxcnc.ini low_graphics/(partial) [KINS]JOINTS(not[TRAJ]AXES) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b75b88f
[01:51:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_configs 3cd4c60 06linuxcnc 10(12 files in 3 dirs) sim/gscreen use [KINS]JOINTS (not [TRAJ]AXES) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=3cd4c60
[01:51:08] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja9_configs 8f79131 06linuxcnc 10(12 files in 2 dirs) sim/gmoccapy/ use [KINS]JOINTS (not [TRAJ]AXES) * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8f79131
[01:51:47] <seb_kuzminsky> dgarr: thanks for working on all those configs, it helps a lot
[01:53:00] <seb_kuzminsky> feel free to push directly to the joints_axes9 branch if you feel confident about the commits and don't need a review/feedback
[01:53:40] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.4-bug-448 0a7f54f 06linuxcnc 10(18 files in 6 dirs) tests: add an interpreter test of G81 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0a7f54f
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[01:53:56] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: there are the new tests that highlight the #448 bug
[01:54:20] <seb_kuzminsky> it runs g81 in all 6 combinations of {g98,g99} x {g17,g18,g19}
[01:54:52] <seb_kuzminsky> i can't test g1{7,8,9}.1 because sai doesn't do UVW, but the pattern in the failure is simple enough
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[01:59:53] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.5-bug-448 6dbe449 06linuxcnc Merge branch '2.4-bug-448' into 2.5-bug-448 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=6dbe449
[01:59:54] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.5-bug-448 fbdb686 06linuxcnc 10(6 files in 6 dirs) update g81 tests for new init/shutdown Canon calls in 2.5 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=fbdb686
[01:59:54] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.5-bug-448 a561cf2 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_cycles.cc fix canned cycles where old Z is below retract plane * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a561cf2
[02:00:14] <seb_kuzminsky> there's the proposed fix
[02:00:35] <seb_kuzminsky> i would appreciate a review on the test itself in 2.4, and the fix in 2.5
[02:03:43] <seb_kuzminsky> also (jepler & cradek & anyone else with a dog in this race), does ja9-docs describe your understanding of the reckoning of joints & axes in ja?
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[02:07:34] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: I glanced this morning and didn't see anything wrong in your changes to that documentation
[02:07:40] <jepler> would appreciate micges comments too
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[02:18:07] <seb_kuzminsky> and alex_joni maybe?
[02:31:04] <jepler> sure if he drops in and sees his name
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[02:44:07] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1733 of 1405.rip-wheezy-armhf is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies configuring] Build details are at
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[02:50:14] <linuxcnc-build_> build #698 of 1903.clang-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies compile] Build details are at
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[02:53:41] <jepler> something is confused by such an old branch?
[02:53:44] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah
[02:53:55] <jepler> in that case goodnight
[02:54:14] <seb_kuzminsky> 2.4 was forever ago
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[02:57:37] <linuxcnc-build_> build #698 of 1902.clang-wheezy-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies compile] Build details are at
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[03:51:30] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1704 of 1400.rip-wheezy-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies configuring] Build details are at
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[03:53:06] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1215 of 1402.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies configuring] Build details are at
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[04:06:31] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1368 of 1401.rip-wheezy-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies configuring] Build details are at
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[04:08:18] <linuxcnc-build_> build #172 of 1502.rip-jessie-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies configuring] Build details are at
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[04:41:19] <seb_kuzminsky> that was 2.4 failing on newer platforms (wheezy, jessie, precise), to be expected
[04:42:02] <seb_kuzminsky> it's currently building 2.5 with the new tests and the fix for the bug they trigger, this should all succeed
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[06:59:51] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6-bug-448 a89d0bc 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_cycles.cc Merge branch '2.5-bug-448' into 2.6-bug-448 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a89d0bc
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[07:12:03] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7-bug-448 8b98364 06linuxcnc Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/2.6-bug-448' into 2.7-bug-448 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8b98364
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[14:51:24] <seb_kuzminsky> as soon as the #448 fix gets ratified i'll release 2.6.11 and 2.7.2
[14:54:32] <jepler> you're a champ
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[16:16:30] <jepler> yay after fixing DNS and SMTP "MAIL FROM", a password reminder from the testing forum gets through to my gmail inbox
[16:16:43] <jepler> though the fact that I had marked several as "not spam" may have helped for me personally.
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[17:25:00] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: I trust your tests more than my ability to understand the change
[17:26:39] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: it would be nice if another? test exercised the g98/g99 switching stuff intended in df5a469d7
[17:43:54] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: the behavior that the tests verify, that worked in 2.4 and broke in 2.5 and got fixed in 2.5-bug-448, is this:
[17:44:02] <seb_kuzminsky> rapid to the higher of old_z and r
[17:44:06] <seb_kuzminsky> rapid to the xy place
[17:44:19] <seb_kuzminsky> rapid down to r if it's lower
[17:44:23] <seb_kuzminsky> feed down to z
[17:44:32] <seb_kuzminsky> rapid up to r or old_z, depending on g98/g99 mode
[17:45:03] <seb_kuzminsky> looking at df5a469d7 now...
[17:47:46] <seb_kuzminsky> hm, none of my tests try switching between g98/g99 in the middle of a string of g81 cycles, that's the additional test you're suggesting?
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[18:19:16] <cradek> well it's not exactly related to bug 448 or bug 448's tests, but that was the reason for df5a469d7 which is what caused all the trouble
[18:19:57] <cradek> but meanwhile, your 448 stuff looks great and I thank you for doing it
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[19:45:17] <skunksleep> Thanks!
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[20:36:48] <skunksleep> pcw_home: you're arguing with crazy people again
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[22:19:03] <PCW> skunksleep: yes, someone is wrong on the internst
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[22:23:09] <andypugh> 5i25 “Kernel Error” or something else?
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[22:24:50] <PCW> Ye Olde microstepping reduces torque nonsense
[22:25:45] <andypugh> It reduces torque per step. Sort-of
[22:25:55] <malcom2073_> Why hasn't anyone hooked a torque meter up to a stepper yet?
[22:26:12] <malcom2073_> I mean, with all the arguments about it
[22:27:17] <PCW> Its been done...
[22:27:18] <PCW> A lot of people read the MICROMO paper and mis-intepret what it says
[22:28:38] <PCW> I think its the main vector of incorrect idea that microstepping reduces torque
[22:28:53] <malcom2073_> Yeah it's what I usually see linked along with that argument
[22:30:20] <PCW> The paper is correct, but I think people look at the chart and say ooh I don't want 256 usteps/step I will only get a fraction of full torque
[22:30:32] <malcom2073_> Yeah
[22:30:53] <malcom2073_> So why doesn't someone make a competing graph that shows how it works, without using the term "incremental torque" :P
[22:32:14] <andypugh> Because “Incremental Torque” is an accurate and adequate description for anyone who deserves to be using steppers :-)
[22:32:37] <PCW> or a video with a magnet and a compass to show how u-stepping works
[22:32:43] <malcom2073_> The majority of people who do X don't deserve to do it :P
[22:32:59] * malcom2073_ steals andypugh's rose colored glasses
[22:33:22] <malcom2073_> Yeah, a video isn't abad idea
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[23:54:29] <skunkworks> a laser mounted on the shaft with marks on the wall...