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[00:42:57] <jepler> I have used it from a rip setup. I haven't tried it from a package so it would be good for someone to check.
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[00:54:53] <Tom_itx> updated from previous 2.7 using apt-get
[00:55:24] <Tom_itx> ubuntu 10.04
[00:55:32] <Tom_itx> it's possible something is outdated or missing
[01:03:17] <jepler> I tested on Debian Jessie and maybe Wheezy
[01:10:26] <seb_kuzminsky> works for me on wheezy (2.7.0~pre7 installed by deb from wlo)
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[01:23:07] <Tom_itx> i get the graphic then it quits with errors
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[01:32:41] <jepler> the debian wheezy packages can be installed on a jessie system that was updated from wheezy, but some packages not available in jessie are pulled in in the process
[01:32:53] <Tom_itx> i could swap hdd for the ssd and try wheezy i suppose
[01:33:19] <jepler> hm but it exits with an error
[01:33:21] <Tom_itx> this is lucid
[01:33:45] <jepler> _tkinter.TclError: NULL main window
[01:34:18] <Tom_itx> i'm not running from a terminal
[01:34:24] <Tom_itx> icon on the desktop mapped to it
[01:34:45] <jepler> hm, affects regular axis sim configs too
[01:35:02] <jepler> so scratch that: linuxcnc-uspace from wheezy debs on jessie doesn't work
[01:35:57] <jepler> Tom_itx: I launched linuxcnc from a terminal so I could see messages, but I used the gui picker to choose and copy the vmc config
[01:37:01] <Tom_itx> how would i specify a config from the cmd line?
[01:37:07] <Tom_itx> i'll try it once
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[01:38:18] <jepler> you just specify the path to the .ini file
[01:38:56] <atom1> yeah i ran it
[01:39:10] <atom1> emc/task/emctaskmain.cc 3006: can't initialize interpreter
[01:39:44] <atom1> initialize: module '/home/tom/linuxcnc/configs/VMC_toolchange/toplevel.py' init failed:
[01:40:13] <atom1> File "./remap.py", line 3, in <module>
[01:40:14] <atom1> from stdglue import *
[01:40:16] <atom1> ImportError: No module named stdglue
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[01:53:17] <atom1> not sure where that comes from
[01:56:41] <jepler> $ ls -ld ~/linuxcnc/nc_files/remap_lib
[01:56:41] <jepler> lrwxrwxrwx 1 jepler jepler 37 Aug 15 20:33 /home/jepler/linuxcnc/nc_files/remap_lib -> /usr/share/linuxcnc/ncfiles/remap_lib
[01:56:53] <jepler> I suspect you don't have this symlink or it is pointing to an incorrect destination
[01:57:01] <jepler> probably this is going to be an upgrading issue
[01:57:44] <jepler> (your home directory name is not /home/jepler of course)
[02:01:56] <atom1> says ....remap_lib is a directory
[02:05:46] <jepler> it is inside that directory where stdglue.py is expected to come from
[02:06:01] <atom1> yeah i see it there
[02:06:08] <jepler> nc_files/remap_lib/python-stdglue/stdglue.py
[02:06:26] <jepler> the copy of the config in your ~/linuxcnc/configs, how did you put it there?
[02:06:38] <atom1> copied it
[02:06:45] <jepler> by hand or by the linuxcnc config picker?
[02:06:50] <atom1> by hand
[02:06:54] <atom1> didn't see it in the picker
[02:06:57] <jepler> do it by the linuxcnc config picker
[02:07:21] <atom1> i used the picker with a generic one then copied the files and redirected the link
[02:07:54] <jepler> look under "Sample Configurations" > sim > axis > vismach
[02:08:12] <jepler> selecting a sample config updates certain paths after copying
[02:08:50] <atom1> ok i had to go a little deeper but i see it
[02:10:53] <jepler> and is the outcome any different?
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[02:11:53] <jepler> afk
[02:13:28] <atom1> yep thanks
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[02:14:39] <atom1> that is very cool
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[02:31:49] <jepler> hah silly me -- the 4.1 rt kernel was already in jessie-backports
[02:31:52] <jepler> https://packages.debian.org/jessie-backports/linux-image-4.1.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64
[02:32:10] <cradek> oh noooo
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[02:34:35] <jepler> 3 days ago
[02:39:18] <jepler> so in summary I would love to see jessie preempt-rt be an architecture for 2.7, possibly one with an installer .iso even
[02:41:11] <cradek> that would be terrific
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[17:42:13] <jepler> hm live-build is not being aggreable
[17:42:26] <jepler> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/sata-modules-4.1.0-1-amd64-di_4.1.3-1.1_amd64.udeb (--unpack):
[17:42:29] <jepler> trying to overwrite '/lib/modules/4.1.0-1-amd64/kernel/drivers/block/sx8.ko', which is also in package linux-image-4.1.0-1-amd64 4.1.3-1.1
[17:42:36] <jepler> and this is before I get a -rt kernel into the mix
[17:53:59] <jepler> ah I think I mismatched live-images git version vs live-build package version
[17:55:26] <skunkworks> are you creating a live jessie rt-preempt?
[17:56:02] <jepler> skunkworks: baby steps so far, but yeah that's my goal
[17:56:26] <skunkworks> awesome. I can test
[17:56:51] <jepler> I'll make sure you hear about it if and when there's something to test
[17:57:00] <skunkworks> great
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[18:45:01] <skunksleep> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/29309-error--issue-on-270-pre
[18:46:43] <skunksleep> I think I have seen this. I will see if I can reproduce. Movement in preview at the end of the program to 0,0.. (But I don't think it moves there)
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[19:04:17] <jepler> arceye's program is unusual for starting with a G1 move. Generally, part programs start with one or more G0 moves, and those G0 moves are enough to establish the position of all axes.
[19:05:43] <jepler> e.g., a program I write by hand will typically start: G0 Z- ( go to safety ) : G0 X- Y- (just above entry point) : G1 Z- F- (entry cut)
[19:05:58] <jepler> axis preview doesn't show the initial G0 moves
[19:07:26] <skunksleep> Ah.. That makes sense
[19:08:33] <jepler> it's not clear from emcPT's intial post whether they are talking about what is seen in the preview or what the machine actually does
[19:09:22] <jepler> .. but if it's about the preview, it's a long-standing behavior and while I wouldn't turn down a patch to "fix" it -- if it's possible to say what the fix is -- I wouldn't work on it with high priority
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