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[00:48:25] <Gurwinder_> anyone please?
[00:50:00] <cradek> Gurwinder_: I am probably not the right person to help you, but either way, I don't understand what your question is. If you have a question, please ask it clearly, and if someone can help you after reading it, they will.
[00:52:18] <Gurwinder_> +cradek: I want to discuss on Google Summer of Code. So that I can work on it.
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[01:51:43] <jepler> > [100219.905145] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000008
[01:51:59] <jepler> [100219.905165] IP: [<ffffffffa04808f6>] nouveau_fence_signal+0x66/0xd0 [nouveau]
[01:52:12] <cradek> oof
[01:52:20] <jepler> and a RT delay to go with it
[01:52:44] <jepler> but all 3 mesa boards attached had their watchdog correctly bite, so that's good
[01:52:56] <cradek> yay
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[01:53:04] <cradek> was that the three seconds?
[01:53:32] <cradek> or was it 2 - that you reported earlier
[01:54:42] <jepler> no the earlier problems were "self-detected stall"s, something else
[01:55:54] <jepler> I wish I had a different video choice in this box; seems like the intel chipset video is decent for rt these days
[01:56:19] <cradek> does it have a slot?
[01:56:27] <jepler> yes, I could take the nvidia out
[01:57:01] <jepler> cradek: this is the one you saw the console of when you were over recently, it has the trashed login screen, that's how well nouveau works..
[01:57:10] <jepler> I didn't even try with the proprietary drivers
[01:57:15] <cradek> yeah, that was lovely
[01:57:30] <cradek> it's a strange kind of screwup
[01:57:44] <jepler> almost of those ex-office nvidia cards have that behavior on debian wheezy with nouveau
[01:58:02] <jepler> very similar trashed login screens, and generally flaky until you install the proprietary drivers
[01:58:23] <cradek> blurgh
[01:58:36] <cradek> doctor doctor, it hurts when I buy nvidia hardware
[01:58:45] <jepler> somebody gave me the box for free, who am I to complain?
[01:59:15] <cradek> acetone and whiskey smell too similar for comfort, having them both right here
[01:59:35] <jepler> "eking out dramatic performance gains"
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[15:47:57] <mozmck> PCW: you around?
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[15:55:36] <PCW> sort of
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[16:15:33] <jepler> RX bytes:68654384538 (63.9 GiB) TX bytes:111132015028 (103.4 GiB)
[16:16:12] <jepler> it's running reliably now that I switched back to rtapi_delay in the recv loop. no dropped packets, no collisions
[16:16:18] <jepler> 1.25kHz I think
[16:17:06] <PCW> Not bad
[16:18:10] <PCW> I'll have to try on a faster machine (assuming I can create some time somehow)
[16:18:34] <jepler> I think that rate is just shy of 1 billion packets per day
[16:18:38] <jepler> creating time is a good trick
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[16:24:09] <PCW> There have been several attempts to remove the delay :-(
[16:33:18] <jepler> I did succeed in moving the delay "down", until after the first recv returns -1
[16:33:54] <jepler> without doing that, the delay is taken at least once per card, but probably only one delay is necessary
[16:34:14] <jepler> the maximum timeout of 100ms (I think) is way too big...
[16:35:30] <PCW> timeout should probably default to 7/10 of the servo period or some such
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[16:35:44] <jepler> one problem is, I don't think the thread period is known way down at that layer
[16:35:54] <jepler> at least it's not a function parameter, it might be somewhere
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[16:46:07] <PCW> error handling is still rather "undeveloped"
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[16:57:53] <PCW> maybe I should add a bug mode to the 7I80 that randomly drops packets...
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[17:29:27] <seb_kuzminsky> cmorley: do you have any insight into Rick Lair's problem on emc-users? he's using your python fanuc T-work remapping script, but i dont know if that's related to his problem
[17:31:17] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, did you mean 75000 line gcode?
[17:31:57] <seb_kuzminsky> did i?
[17:31:58] <seb_kuzminsky> err
[17:32:41] <skunkworks> 7500 didn't seem like 140kb worth.. :)
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[17:33:05] <seb_kuzminsky> 20 bytes per line
[17:33:07] <seb_kuzminsky> seems about right
[17:33:27] <skunkworks> maybe I don't have a feel for that...
[17:33:30] <skunkworks> :)
[17:33:49] * skunkworks crawls back under a rock
[17:33:57] <seb_kuzminsky> me neither, but i have a calculator ;-)
[17:35:03] <mozmck> what is a Call Stack Under run?
[17:35:26] <seb_kuzminsky> it's a bug in the interpreter's handing of o-word returns
[17:36:07] <seb_kuzminsky> it's in interp_o_word.cc, in the leave_context() function
[17:36:46] <seb_kuzminsky> i bet it's got something to do with the python remapping of T that he's using, but i dont know that code at all...
[17:37:23] <seb_kuzminsky> well, back to $DAYJOB for me
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[17:58:57] <skunkworks> PCW, now your out of 7i92's
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[17:59:25] <skunkworks> seems like an endless battle
[17:59:28] <skunkworks> :)
[18:00:12] <PCW> building more now but will be around 3-4 weeks
[18:00:55] <skunkworks> I ordered 2 a few days ago - I don't know if I was a lucky one though
[18:00:58] <PCW> first lot sat on the shelf for ~6 months
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[18:01:04] <skunkworks> (from the web)
[18:01:10] <PCW> yeah yours is boxed
[18:01:33] <skunkworks> awesome!
[18:01:42] <PCW> I think moz got the last ones
[18:01:45] <skunkworks> heh
[18:01:51] <skunkworks> mozmck!!
[18:01:56] <mozmck> There were 3 this morning, then 2 and I ordered them :)
[18:02:10] <mozmck> I wanted five :(
[18:02:16] <skunkworks> yah - I saw there wasn;t many left
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[18:12:16] <skunkworks> wow. mach doesn't reliebly turn the spindle on?
[18:13:57] <mozmck> Where do you see that?
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[18:14:04] <skunkworks> cool...
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/tormach-pathpilot-/276208-tormach-software-forum-posts.html
[18:14:39] <skunkworks> there is a large discussion on the yahoo group about detecting the spindle not being on - and how to stop mach
[18:15:47] <mozmck> huh, that's generally reliable. We have seen some odd bugs where M3 would do nothing, and you had to restart Mach for it to work again, but haven't seen that in a while.
[18:15:52] <skunkworks> and then this comment
http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,30471.msg211593.html#msg211593
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[18:16:23] <mozmck> Could be the same bug we've seen at times.
[18:17:03] <mozmck> I think we fixed it by removing bogus extra characters from the end of the M3 macro. It is an external macro in Mach.
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[18:27:36] <jepler> weird, this motherboard (ASRock H97 "Anniversary" LGA 1150) has a PATA-era power 4-pin connector on the motherboard
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[18:29:45] <jepler> PCIE_PWR1"
[18:30:25] <skunkworks> most motherboards still have the extra 4 pin motherboard connector.
[18:30:27] <seb_kuzminsky> for running those nvidia cards you have
[18:30:40] <jepler> yeah that seems to be the point
[18:30:56] <jepler> I never have that kind of video card, thank goodness
[18:31:09] <jepler> Connect "when more than three graphics cards are installed"
[18:31:58] <skunkworks> wow
[18:32:25] <skunkworks> oh - I see what you are saying. the molex inline 4 pin connector
[18:32:32] <jepler> right
[18:32:46] <skunkworks> ah - I was thinking the 4 pin square motherboard connector
[18:33:57] <jepler> in addition to the molex power connector, this has ATX 24-pin and 8-pin connectors
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[18:52:02] <skunkworks> hmm I would think you would not want to use any halui stuff for realtime control...
[18:53:15] <seb_kuzminsky> +1
[18:53:25] <seb_kuzminsky> halui is not realtime
[18:53:35] <seb_kuzminsky> doesn't motion have a pause input for this reason?
[18:53:46] <cradek> there is a realtime feedhold motion pin
[18:54:00] <skunkworks> right
[18:54:07] <seb_kuzminsky> motion.feed-inhibit
[18:54:22] <skunkworks> 1 second seems long though.. unless the machine is really slow
[18:54:22] <seb_kuzminsky> there's also motion.feed-hold, not sure what the diff is
[18:54:46] <cradek> fiik
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[19:13:14] <skunkworks> halui: don't forget the Task mode when queueing MDI commands
[19:13:39] <seb_kuzminsky> i looked at that one, i think it's ok
[19:13:39] <skunkworks> otherwise - if this is a gmocappy issue - there was a lot of changes between 2.5 and 2.6
[19:13:55] <seb_kuzminsky> he retracted that, he's now saying it's between 2.6.5 and 2.6.6
[19:14:28] <seb_kuzminsky> i bet motion.feed-hold (and -inhibit) won't pause traverse moves
[19:14:33] <seb_kuzminsky> so it's not quite what rick wants
[19:14:43] <skunkworks> oh - that was a change.
[19:14:49] <cradek> sure it will!
[19:14:55] <cradek> at least one will
[19:14:57] <cradek> I hope
[19:15:06] <seb_kuzminsky> both say feed on them
[19:15:14] <skunkworks> I read it that 2.6.5 worked 2.6.6 didn't
[19:15:20] <seb_kuzminsky> someone... who's not at work... or who works on linuxcnc... should try it
[19:15:23] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe rick
[19:15:50] <mozmck> by traverse do you mean rapid or jog?
[19:15:58] <seb_kuzminsky> i meant traverse
[19:16:02] <seb_kuzminsky> err
[19:16:03] <seb_kuzminsky> rapid
[19:16:06] <seb_kuzminsky> duh
[19:16:07] <seb_kuzminsky> hah
[19:16:08] <cradek> he means G0 gcode
[19:16:19] <cradek> people call it all sorts of things
[19:16:20] <seb_kuzminsky> what he said ^^^
[19:16:33] <mozmck> ok. feed-inhibit pauses all moves.
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[19:16:43] <seb_kuzminsky> well that's great
[19:16:51] <mozmck> including jog. at least is does on 2.7 because I've tested it.
[19:16:52] <cradek> what's feed-hold do? (he asked, hesitantly)
[19:16:58] <seb_kuzminsky> we should update the manpage to say that too
[19:16:59] <mozmck> I don't know!
[19:17:02] <seb_kuzminsky> haha
[19:17:06] <cradek> "we"
[19:17:11] <seb_kuzminsky> we're like the monkey men in 2001
[19:17:16] <cradek> ook ook
[19:17:24] <cradek> I hear I'm the mild-mannered one
[19:17:25] <mozmck> The docs made it look like I wanted feed-inhibit so I used that.
[19:17:30] * seb_kuzminsky hits linuxcnc with a stick
[19:17:59] <cradek> I've been accused of hitting it with a knobkerrie
[19:18:29] <seb_kuzminsky> i dont know what that is but it sounds like an awful scottish intestine-based food
[19:18:43] <cradek> eww
[19:18:44] <mozmck> hotdogs?
[19:18:49] <cradek> eww
[19:18:51] <seb_kuzminsky> bbl lunch
[19:18:55] <cradek> ha
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[19:40:27] <mozmck> hmm, hal_gremlin emits a signal line-clicked, but not if gremlin is clicked outside of a line.
[19:41:32] <mozmck> so you can highlight the gcode line if a line is clicked in gremlin, but I don't see a way to clear it if it is cleared in gremlin...
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[20:28:17] <mozmck> Here's a fix, but will need testing to see if it breaks anything in Gmoccapy or Gscreen
[20:28:19] <mozmck> http://pastie.org/10295277
[20:30:20] <mozmck> <grumble> Gmoccapy *crashes* if you have a non-theme file in ~/.themes
[20:33:21] <mozmck> In my case it was a .tar.bz2 of a theme
[20:37:29] <mozmck> Looks like my hal_gremlin fix does not break gmoccapy or gscreen, but it does fix the same problem in gmoccapy at least.
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[20:57:40] <mozmck> seb_kuzminsky: if you think my patch above is non-disruptive enough I'll push it to 2.7 tonight.
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[21:39:32] <seb_kuzminsky> mozmck: are those the only users of line-clicked?
[21:42:35] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, i see hal_gremlin emit that signal, but i dont see anyone catching it. what don't i understand about gsignals?
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[23:53:53] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 4ef1626 06linuxcnc 10docs/man/man9/motion.9 docs: document motion.feed-inhibit better * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4ef1626
[23:58:09] <seb_kuzminsky> i should verify that spindle-sync motions are not inhibited, like they shouldn't be
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