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[00:09:06] <jepler> https://github.com/polysome/aggregate-1 "An open source Xilinx Spartan 6 miniPCIe development board. "
[00:10:09] <jepler> not a lot more information available, boo
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[00:11:36] <PCW> cute but no I/O?
[00:12:26] <PCW> Oh theres's some flat cable I/O on the bottom
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[00:20:51] <PCW> Cryptography coprocessor?
[00:21:25] <PCW> (thats a $100+ FPGA)
[00:22:59] <jepler> yeah I can't quite figure out what they're into
[00:23:14] <jepler> "Free, open and verifiable security architecture." -- polysome.io
[00:26:37] <jepler> but I think I could watch the pick & place video on their front page just about all day
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[00:44:53] <cradek> kwallace_shiz: so you got a bunch that are fine, and this one that had an incorrectly hardened part?
[00:58:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Robert W. Ellenberg 05feature/tangent-improvement-2.7 0e6f404 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/tp/tp.c tp: internally limit kink ratio to the range [0.001,0.7071] * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0e6f404
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[01:19:00] <PCW> Ive seen some the use a very small ball bearing for the detent
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[01:20:16] <cradek> as often as you spin those things it's no surprise they get some wear.
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[01:21:49] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1607 of 1404.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1404.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-amd64/builds/1607 blamelist: Robert W. Ellenberg <rwe24g@gmail.com>
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[01:35:42] <skunkworks> I don't get any failures
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[01:37:12] <linuxcnc-build_> build #3266 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/3266 blamelist: Robert W. Ellenberg <rwe24g@gmail.com>
[01:37:49] <skunkworks> Runtest: 158 tests run, 158 successful, 0 failed + 0 expected
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[02:09:01] <kwallace_shiz> cradek, "so you got a bunch that are fine ^^^" I got three MPGs. One has a nice detent feel, the second has a nice feel but is a tad light, the third had a light double detent which turned out to have a completely worn roller. There is too much grease in the second to see any wear and it works so I may just leave it for now. I'll probably make a few rollers and tape one inside each MPG.
[02:11:02] <kwallace_shiz> I have some drill rod on the material rack which I plan on using, but I'll leave the rollers unhardened to protect the rotor teeth.
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[02:30:43] <jepler> hm. bug or feature? hm2_eth counts cards from 0, so if you configure 3 cards you can get e.g., hm2_7i80.0 hm2_7i80.1, hm2_7i92.2 instead of hm2_7i92.0.
[02:33:24] <mozmck> can the numbering change based on the switch port it's on?
[02:34:28] <jepler> no, it's based on loadrt board_ip= ordering
[02:34:49] <mozmck> ok
[02:35:06] <jepler> loadrt hm2_eth config="num_encoders=1 num_pwmgens=1 num_stepgens=1 enable_raw=1,enable_raw=1" board_ip=192.168.1.123,192.168.1.122,192.168.1.121
[02:35:37] <jepler> in my case, .123 is a 7i80hd, .122 is a 7i90db (or maybe vice versa) and .121 is a 7i92
[02:35:51] <mozmck> So does the config string apply to all boards?
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[02:36:11] <jepler> no
[02:36:18] <jepler> the first board gets num_encoders=1 num_pwmgens=1 num_stepgens=1 enable_raw=1
[02:36:23] <jepler> the second one gets just enable_raw=1
[02:36:26] <jepler> and the third board gets nothing
[02:36:41] <mozmck> ah, I missed the comma.
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[03:33:42] <pcw_home> I think PCI cards are like 5i20.0, 5i23.0, 5i23.1
[03:33:44] <pcw_home> though the numbers are a nice independent enumeration
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[03:59:32] <skunksleep> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mach1mach2cnc/conversations/messages/148237
[03:59:39] <skunksleep> Yikes
[04:00:26] <pcw_home> 7i73 is in the mail...
[04:02:47] <skunksleep> Yay. Wait. What do you mean?
[04:07:58] <skunksleep> Wow 30 in stock :)
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[07:36:45] <micges> jepler: it's a bug, there is only one cards index in driver, should be one per type like in hm2_pci
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[11:30:07] <skunkworks> zlog,
[11:30:07] <zlog> skunkworks: Log stored at
http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2015-07-14.html
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[12:46:44] <skunkworks> runing the bug424.ngc - arc_blend_kink_ratio set to .01
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/kink.01.png
[12:47:03] <skunkworks> and set to .7
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/kink.7.png
[12:47:14] <skunkworks> 22in/sec^2
[12:48:15] <skunkworks> I have a question as to why it doesn't just run at full speed - it isn't using all the acceleration. Rob may be limiting jerk a bit - I don't know.
[12:48:58] <skunkworks> If you raise the axis acceleration - it does run without slowing down.
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[13:08:22] <jepler> running overnight with 3 cards at 2kHz I got a spew of these
[13:08:23] <jepler> hm2_eth: enqueue_read ERROR: reading packet: recv() -> -1 Resource temporarily unavailable (expected to read 120 bytes)
[13:08:38] <jepler> and the thread max-time is now 1895590945
[13:08:46] <skunkworks> yeck
[13:09:00] <jepler> ugh that's nearly 2 seconds!
[13:09:16] <skunkworks> lose power to the switch?
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[13:09:52] <skunkworks> or the switch overheated and rebooted?
[13:09:58] <jepler> don't think so
[13:10:02] <skunkworks> darn
[13:10:08] <jepler> hard to be sure though
[13:10:12] <jepler> dmesg has grumpy stuff in it too
[13:10:12] <jepler> [ 1885.272010] INFO: rcu_preempt self-detected stall on CPU { 1} (t=5250 jiffies g=20036 c=20035 q=738)
[13:10:23] <archivist> packets piling up?
[13:11:14] <jepler> something like that
[13:11:37] <jepler> this is still with the 10us delay removed from hm2_eth, now replaced by a sched_yield call
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[13:14:45] <jepler> http://paste.debian.net/282268/
[13:15:04] <jepler> it seems weird that recvmsg calls sendmsg
[13:15:04] <jepler> [ 1885.272088] [<ffffffff8148819e>] ? udp_sendmsg+0x3ce/0x890
[13:15:04] <jepler> [ 1885.272090] [<ffffffff81488c8a>] ? udp_recvmsg+0x9a/0x450
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[13:15:59] <jepler> though I am told that "?" in a kernel traceback means it is a code address seen in the stack, but not proven to be a return address by unwinding the stack
[13:17:58] <lair82> Good Morning Guys, I am having problems on my machine, last week we started noticing that when we would try to load a program, there would be nothing in the nc_files folder, when there are over 100 programs. I would shut Linuxcnc down, and there would be zero icons on the desktop, not my shortcut link start linuxcnc, none of the folders that would normally be there, nothing. I would manually shut the pc down, with the pushbutto
[13:18:35] <lair82> about 10 seconds, and it wouldn't boot linux, it would just go to the bios for the MB.
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[13:30:58] <lair82> I thought the HD took a poop, so I installed a fresh ubuntu build on a new HD, re built my build, and now today it is showing similar symptoms, any thoughts?
[13:37:07] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: thanks for testing
[13:37:21] <seb_kuzminsky> those curves look nice, except for the accel blips
[13:37:31] <seb_kuzminsky> did you mail rob?
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[13:43:23] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky, no violations
[13:43:37] <seb_kuzminsky> just those little wiggles
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[13:46:52] <CaptHindsight> lair82: I'd ask in #linuxcnc but maybe a bad MB, are you using PASSWORD for password and accessing facebook with it?
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[13:49:45] <skunkworks> those accel blips are not violations
[13:50:54] <seb_kuzminsky> ok good
[13:52:21] <seb_kuzminsky> lair82: try running memtest86 on it (it's available from the grub boot menu)
[13:52:46] <lair82> seb_kuzminsky ok
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[14:30:44] <jepler> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] 4.1.2-rt1
[14:32:42] <skunkworks> oh - does that help your dragon board?
[14:33:00] <pcw_home> Wow
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[14:38:27] <pcw_home> for reference, with hm2_eth running at 3 KHz on my Core Duo (E8500 3.16 GHz)
[14:38:29] <pcw_home> the Ethernet interrupt uses about 3.5 % of a CPU and there's no noticeable slowdown
[14:38:30] <pcw_home> of anything else
[14:40:20] <jepler> skunkworks: not right away. I still haven't successfully built and booted a non-rt kernel and I haven't had an "aha" moment yet about why not
[14:40:59] <jepler> pcw_home: 18.3% CPU here though that's with sched_yield instead of rtapi_delay when waiting for read packets
[14:44:35] <jepler> 13% with the delay put back in, plus ~3% for rx and tx irqs
[14:46:15] <jepler> coreboot: ... It became clear that a new release is overdue. With our new release process only slowly getting in shape, I decided to take a random commit and call it ‘4.1’. ...
[14:46:19] <jepler> well that's one way to do ti
[14:46:21] <jepler> it
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[15:35:06] <skunkworks> there is an issue with robs branch. Gcode is running about half as fast as master in some situations. He is looking at it
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[15:41:02] <lair82___> seb_kuzminsky , how do I get memtest going if the grub menu does not come up during boot?
[15:45:24] <skunkworks> boot off the live image?
[15:49:34] <skunkworks> tapping the shift key should send you into grub if you hit it just right (right shift key)
[15:50:48] <mozmck> I haven't tried that, but in ubuntu the default timeout is 0, so you don't much time if that's going to work!
[15:53:47] <lair82___> Ok, its running, fixed grub, running memtest
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[16:05:50] <seb_kuzminsky> you can hold down shift, you don't have to tap & time it
[16:07:40] <skunkworks> On a lot of my systems - holding didn't seem to work.
[16:10:52] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm, weird
[16:13:19] <micges> here works only tapping left shift key
[16:18:53] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe it depends on the bios? or maybe i'm misremembering
[16:20:21] <kwallace> Holding left shift starting with the BIOS screen works for me. I think shift is used because it doesn't repeat, but that's a guess.
[16:21:40] <seb_kuzminsky> my brother in madness!
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[16:27:36] <skunkworks> you guys are crazy!! ;)
[16:28:02] <skunkworks> maybe usb vs ps2?
[16:28:50] <seb_kuzminsky> mmmmaybe
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[17:44:25] <mozmck> anyone know offhand how halshow shows pin states without connecting with signals?
[17:47:05] <mozmck> I'd like to do something similar for a diagnostics panel in my GUI, just for the 7i92 inputs/outputs. In gladevcp I have to connect the widget hal pin to the signal the 7i92 pin is connected to, but I want to show the pin state even if it is not connected to anything.
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[17:49:05] <micges> it access hal data directly
[17:49:22] <mozmck> Hmm, so I wonder if I can do that in python?
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[17:55:29] <micges> atm no
[17:56:17] <lair82___> Pass 1, no errors
[17:56:27] <micges> mozmck: look at src/hal/meter.c function popup_probe_window()
[17:56:49] <mozmck> micges: thanks, will do.
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[17:58:05] <micges> it's code that enumerates all pin/signals/params, you need to add this to halmodule.cc in some way, then you can use it from python
[17:58:08] <bjmorel_work> Does anyone have a link to a getting started guide for a Mesa 7i92 / 7i76 setup ?
[17:58:54] <micges> bjmorel_work: first: man hm2_eth
[17:59:19] <skunkworks> mozmck,
http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,30471.msg211591.html#msg211591
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[18:01:15] <micges> bjmorel_work: besides loadrt hm2_eth line rest of hal is the same as 5i25+7i76 setup
[18:01:47] <bjmorel_work> micges: Perfect, thanks. I do need 2.7 correct?
[18:02:11] <mozmck> skunkworks: thanks. I don't keep up with all the forums and lists - takes too much time!
[18:02:11] <micges> yes
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[18:03:51] <bjmorel_work> Also, does it matter if I use an RT-Preempt kernel or the default RT kernel that ships on the live cd ?
[18:03:52] <mozmck> skunkworks: It actually works pretty well, but the M10/M11 issue he mentioned is a bit of a problem because of time delays.
[18:04:10] <mozmck> bjmorel_work: you have to use RT-Preempt.
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[18:07:07] <skunkworks> mozmck, is it nice being a bit more realtimey?
[18:07:13] <bjmorel_work> Ok, i can get that all set up tonight, cards should be in tomorrow.
[18:07:20] <bjmorel_work> Thanks again.
[18:07:56] <mozmck> skunkworks: quite nice.
[18:08:04] <skunkworks> :)
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[20:59:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 5f9480d 06linuxcnc 10docs/man/man3/rtapi_print.3rtapi docs: ficks a typoe in rtapi_print(3) manpage * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=5f9480d
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[22:56:48] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky: funny :)
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[23:34:47] <Gurwinder_> Hi, I am Gurwinder. Now for GSoC Post mid term, I am going work on linuxcnc.
[23:36:45] <Gurwinder_> In past I with Chris morley have discussed on many required work on linuxcnc but due to lack of knowledge I was not able to work on those projects.
[23:37:21] <Gurwinder_> But Morley and I was working on stepconf help button.
[23:38:35] <Gurwinder_> For it I have to learn python. So, learnt all the basics of pyhthon and now able to understand whats going on in python file.
[23:39:54] <Gurwinder_> So, want to discuss about it for GSoC
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