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[00:00:55] <kwallace> Any ideas on making it easier for the next guy/gal?
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[00:16:30] <mozmck> hmm, tclx should be a dependency of the runtime package I think
[00:17:47] <mozmck> What version are you working with?
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[00:55:16] <mozmck> Is there a way in python to connect to a hal pin 'value-changed' signal if the pin was not created in python?
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[01:07:06] <kwallace> mozmck, I used "git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc-dev" so I assume it's the current master.
[01:09:20] <kwallace> I also did "dpkg-checkbuilddeps", which didn't complain about tclx being mia.
[01:10:33] <kwallace> Just a note on the webpage to check for tclx would do.
[01:12:07] <mozmck> kwallace: well, it is a dependency of the runtime package, so it would not be picked up by dpkg-checkbuilddeps
[01:12:21] <kwallace> Just as is this page has been a big help, thanks to those who maintain it.
[01:12:47] <mozmck> Maybe it should be a build dependency though? I don't know.
[01:13:10] <kwallace> I know less.
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[01:56:43] <kwallace> What is the new name for comp?
[01:57:21] <kwallace> halcompile
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[02:17:53] <seb_kuzminsky> mozmck: no, tclx is not used by the build process anywhere, so it should not be a build dependency
[02:18:20] <seb_kuzminsky> it is used by some of the programs (latency-histogram and friends, i think?), so it should be (and is) a runtime dependency
[02:19:18] <seb_kuzminsky> i keep meaning to turn the Installing_LinuxCNC wiki page into an asciidoc file to be built with the rest of our real, maintained docs
[02:19:46] <seb_kuzminsky> in the Developer's Manual somewhere
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[02:47:27] <kwallace> So which is it, comp or halcompile? The current master has a man page for halcompile but can't find the program. I installed linuxcnc-dev with Synaptic and now man comp and comp --install work.
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[02:51:15] <mozmck> seb_kuzminsky: Looks like that page could use a lot of updates...
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[03:08:41] <cmorley> mozmck: 'value-changed' - no only pins that hal_glib.py knows about are polled for gobject signals
[03:09:17] <mozmck> cmorley: thanks. The hal_glib code is hard to understand.
[03:09:37] <mozmck> I see a getpin function, but I tried following it back and can't figure out what it does
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[03:10:38] <mozmck> Is there a way to disable the message about the probe input closing while jogging?
[03:10:48] <cmorley> yes. Pavel is very smart.
[03:12:32] <cmorley> I believe that is a 'linuxcnc proper' error, nothing to do with gladevcp..got go... phone call
[03:12:43] <mozmck> ok
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[03:21:55] <seb_kuzminsky> kwallace: in 2.6 and earlier it's called comp, in 2.7 and later it's halcompile
[03:22:45] <seb_kuzminsky> kwallace: what version of linuxcnc-dev do you have? i bet it's 2.6 or older
[03:23:16] <mozmck> seb_kuzminsky: do you know if there is a way to disable the "probe input tripped while jogging" message?
[03:24:03] <mozmck> That is something that will happen commonly for our setups
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[03:25:08] <seb_kuzminsky> mozmck: debounce your probe input?
[03:25:54] <seb_kuzminsky> what i mean is: that sounds like a hardware problem
[03:26:01] <mozmck> No, the probe input is tied to the ohmic sensor on a plasma torch tip.
[03:26:21] <mozmck> For setup, it is common to run the tip down until it touches the metal and zero it.
[03:28:00] <mozmck> manually that is. So I'm jogging down until the input switches on purpose.
[03:30:54] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm
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[03:31:38] <seb_kuzminsky> what if the motion.probe-input pin got "probe-gpio.in AND NOT torch-on"?
[03:32:27] <mozmck> Hmm, so if the torch is not on the probe-input would never go active?
[03:33:04] <seb_kuzminsky> right
[03:33:12] <seb_kuzminsky> no wait
[03:33:18] <mozmck> No, we only do a probing move when the torch is off.
[03:33:44] <seb_kuzminsky> the probe input to motion would only see True when the mesa probe pin goes true *and* the torch is *not* on
[03:34:04] <mozmck> In gcode after stopping a cut we will do a probe before starting the next cut to see where the metal really is now.
[03:34:21] <seb_kuzminsky> but you do the probe with the torch off, right?
[03:34:34] <mozmck> Yes, but we also jog with the torch off.
[03:34:49] <seb_kuzminsky> when do you see phantom probe trips?
[03:35:05] <mozmck> It's not phantom, it's when I jog the tip down to touch the metal :)
[03:35:19] <seb_kuzminsky> isnt that what you want?
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[03:35:39] <mozmck> Yes, but I don't want linuxcnc to pop up a warning about it.
[03:36:01] <seb_kuzminsky> ah
[03:36:17] <seb_kuzminsky> i had assumed you used a probe move, not a jog, to go down and touch the torch to the metal
[03:36:49] <mozmck> We do when running gcode, but it's common to just manually jog down when setting up.
[03:37:08] <seb_kuzminsky> i'd add a pyvcp button to do a probe move down to the work
[03:38:02] <mozmck> Well, I can do that, but when a user jogs down and touches the metal even accidentally I'd like to inhibit that message if I can.
[03:38:32] <mozmck> Except it will be gladevcp since my gui is a custom Gscreen based one :)
[03:38:42] <seb_kuzminsky> what is the exact message? i dont see the one you said
[03:39:13] <mozmck> I don't remember exactly, I'll have to look again tomorrow when I go out to the shop.
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[03:40:02] <mozmck> Thinking of the GUI, I have a new gladevcp widget HAL_LightButton, that it would be nice to get in 2.7 if you think it's alright.
[03:40:35] <mozmck> pasteboard
[03:40:38] <mozmck> oops
[03:41:40] <mozmck> Here's a shot of the gui with some lighted buttons.
http://pasteboard.co/1BSphh90.png
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[03:45:22] <seb_kuzminsky> "Probe tripped during a jog"
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[03:45:56] <seb_kuzminsky> there's currently no way to torn that off
[03:46:10] <mozmck> hmm, ok.
[03:47:00] <seb_kuzminsky> and i still think disabling the report of that condition is the wrong approach
[03:47:14] <seb_kuzminsky> most of the time you *want* to know when that hardware problem happens
[03:48:03] <mozmck> Yes, except on a plasma cutter (I think)
[03:48:35] <seb_kuzminsky> that looks nice
[03:48:59] <mozmck> thanks!
[03:49:02] <seb_kuzminsky> in general i think stand-alone things like new widgets and comps and drivers are fine to add almost any time
[03:49:29] <mozmck> I was thinking that might be the case. It won't affect anything existing already.
[03:49:44] <seb_kuzminsky> right, the risk to users is really low
[03:50:58] <seb_kuzminsky> i've never run a plasma machine (or even seen one live), but i imagine i'd want a "touch off to the work" button prominently on the gui, and it would use a probe move, and everything would be fine
[03:51:15] <seb_kuzminsky> and, i like commas
[03:52:23] <mozmck> heh!
[03:52:59] <mozmck> Looks like looking in control.c that it will abort the jog? That might actually be handy.
[03:53:34] <seb_kuzminsky> heh:
[03:53:35] <seb_kuzminsky> // not probing, but we have a rising edge on the probe.
[03:53:35] <seb_kuzminsky> // this could be expensive if we don't stop.
[03:53:43] <mozmck> yeah :)
[03:54:22] <seb_kuzminsky> i often get this warm fuzzy feeling when i worry about something in linuxcnc and go look at the source code and see that someone thought about this problem like 10 years ago
[03:54:54] <mozmck> yeah. They were thinking through things in detail.
[03:55:41] <mozmck> Or they destroyed a $10,000 piece of work :)
[03:56:15] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[03:56:59] <seb_kuzminsky> looks like this behavior was added by alex joni and chris radek back in 2007
[03:57:20] <seb_kuzminsky> about that time i was excited i could get a servo motor to move
[03:58:11] <mozmck> I could probably add a INI setting to disable that message, but we may play with it and decide we like it.
[03:58:48] * seb_kuzminsky stage whispers: train your users to click the "probe to the work" button
[03:58:54] <mozmck> I haven't played with servos yet, other than ones driven with step/dir drives.
[03:59:42] <seb_kuzminsky> the servos on my bridgeport saved my bacon the other night
[04:00:13] <seb_kuzminsky> the fan that keeps the X amp cool died (i'm guessing it was installed in 1989 when the machine was built)
[04:00:30] <seb_kuzminsky> the amp stopped running, but the encoder was still working (it gets power from the mesa board)
[04:00:45] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc e-stopped before the work was ruined
[04:00:54] <mozmck> Nice!
[04:00:57] <seb_kuzminsky> didn't even lose zero
[04:01:04] <seb_kuzminsky> i let the amp cool down, then finished the part
[04:01:12] <seb_kuzminsky> (and ordered new fans on amazon)
[04:01:47] <mozmck> I'd like to get a cnc mill sometime, but I don't know if I had time to use it.
[04:01:54] <seb_kuzminsky> heh yeah
[04:03:39] <mozmck> Hmm, I may have to implement your idea of "probe-gpio.in AND NOT torch-on", because the ohmic input gets noise on it while the torch is running.
[04:03:49] <cradek> I don't have a spare stylus for my probe - never have. So I think about things like this...
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[04:04:17] <cradek> 2007 was like a year or two ago, right?
[04:04:49] <mozmck> seems like!
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[04:08:16] <seb_kuzminsky> it was back when we were young
[04:09:15] <cradek> hey, I'm still young [when compared to the right people]
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[04:09:54] <cradek> I never intended jogging the probe into something on purpose to be something people did
[04:10:16] <mozmck> heh!
[04:10:19] <cradek> for one thing you'll end up past the trigger point by some distance that depends on how fast you were going
[04:10:33] <cradek> that can't really be a good way to touch off something
[04:10:49] <mozmck> Well, for this you don't have to be real accurate.
[04:11:50] <seb_kuzminsky> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Ij3TDk3ug
[04:11:58] <mozmck> The main reason I do it actually is so that I'm close to the right place before doing a probe move (or homing move as it was in mach)
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[04:13:21] <mozmck> If your Z thinks it is at 0 when it is 4" above the work, then starting a probe move at slow speed up there takes forever.
[04:13:39] <cradek> so probe as fast as the jog?
[04:14:05] <mozmck> I guess that's possible.
[04:14:08] <seb_kuzminsky> that would not be worse in any way
[04:14:36] <cradek> it's better because you get the real trip point stored, and you don't get an error
[04:14:43] <mozmck> I normally don't try to touch the metal when joggin down, but just get close to zero the axis.
[04:14:51] <cradek> ah
[04:15:04] <mozmck> But touching happens often enough.
[04:16:24] <mozmck> We'll probably use it like this and see how it works for us for now.
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[14:03:40] <kwallace> seb_kuzminsky,
http://linuxcnc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23linuxcnc-devel/2015-07-02.html#03:22:45 My LinuxCNC is 2.8.0~pre1
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[14:18:45] <kwallace> One problem, I consulted the documentation for 2.6, which is the current default from
http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/documentation . What is considered the current stable rev?
[14:23:22] <skunkworks> 2.6.8
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[14:49:58] <seb_kuzminsky> kwallace: you have both a git checkout and an installed debian package, right?
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[15:00:44] <jepler> JT-Shop_: do you know how to fix that build error?
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[15:55:48] <kwallace> seb_kuzminsky, yes I have the tormach git package installed, then did a linuxcnc git install. Halcompile didn't work so I went to my old habit and used Synaptic to install linuxcnc-dev, which installed comp. I then searched for halcompile and found it, copied it to /usr/bin and it seems to work. I was so used to just doing the linuxcnc-dev install and having it just work, that it took me off guard a little.
[16:04:31] <JT-Shop_> jepler, yes I will fix that
[16:07:56] <jepler> thanks!
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[16:09:52] <seb_kuzminsky> kwallace: what version of linuxcnc-dev did you install? if it was 2.6 or older you'll get comp instead of halcompile
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[16:29:27] <kwallace> seb_kuzminsky, I think the problem is that Synaptic didn't see my linuxcnc 2.8 install. I just chose the linuxcnc-dev that was on the list, which I suppose was for 2.6. I assumed Synaptic would pick up the proper LinuxCNC version -- silly me. I got my component installed so I'm happy. Thanks for your help.
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[19:34:00] <seb_kuzminsky> hmm
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[20:39:07] <mozmck> seb_kuzminsky: I have a small change to gremlin adding another mouse button mode. It should not affect anything existing - can I push to 2.7?
[20:46:43] <seb_kuzminsky> what does the new mode do?
[20:52:26] <jepler> can you place the patch somewhere for review?
[21:00:33] <mozmck> sure
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[21:01:05] <mozmck> http://pastie.org/10270597
[21:01:31] <mozmck> Oops, that got chopped off
[21:02:57] <mozmck> http://pastie.org/10270601
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[21:03:52] <mozmck> It just adds a mode with no rotate, for plasma machines :)
[21:04:19] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks for breaking that line inot several
[21:04:40] <mozmck> heh! was a pain to read.
[21:05:25] <seb_kuzminsky> looks fine to me
[21:06:31] <mozmck> Ok, does jepler have any comments on it?
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[21:07:32] <seb_kuzminsky> he knows gremlin much better than i do
[21:07:41] <cradek> are you sure that split gives the same results?
[21:07:54] <mozmck> I have to run for now. If there are no objections I'll push it late tonight or tomorrow.
[21:07:56] <cradek> you lost some backslash-space, whatever that is
[21:08:11] <mozmck> cradek: no, it has a new line ;)
[21:09:01] <mozmck> I think the original had a slash in front of each line, I could look at that again.
[21:09:24] <mozmck> It only affects the tooltip in glade as far as I know.
[21:10:08] <cradek> >>> 'a\n\ bc'
[21:10:08] <cradek> 'a\n\\ bc'
[21:10:08] <cradek> >>> ('a\n' 'bc')
[21:10:08] <cradek> 'a\nbc'
[21:10:58] <cradek> I'm pretty sure you changed it, but I don't know what that change does
[21:11:33] <mozmck> Just checked and it has a \ in front of each line in the tooltip
[21:11:43] <mozmck> That looked odd to me so I removed it.
[21:11:44] <jepler> >>> ' ' == '\ '
[21:11:44] <jepler> False
[21:11:44] <jepler> >>> '\ '
[21:11:44] <jepler> '\\ '
[21:12:19] <cradek> oh ok, so that part is a bugfix
[21:12:34] <jepler> it looks like a backslash-newline sequence in a string was turned into a backslash-space sequence
[21:12:46] <mozmck> It actually inserts the \ in the tooltip, so the lines look like this '\ 0 = default: l-rotate, m-move, r-zoom'
[21:12:48] <jepler> backslash-newline is a special sequence which is converted to exactly nothing
[21:13:03] <jepler> but I didn't look at the history of that file
[21:13:32] <mozmck> I don't know. It had \n\
[21:13:52] <mozmck> My thought was the \ at the end was an attempt to break the line up.
[21:13:54] <jepler> mozmck: two pieces of feedback, feel free to ignore. (1) it would be better to make a separate commit to fix the formatting of that long string and remove the spurious backslashes .. and then a second commit to add the new mode
[21:14:20] <jepler> (2) if you make the last branch of that if statement 'elif self.mouse_btn_mode == 5:
[21:14:34] <jepler> er ... == 6: then the next person doesn't need to change the else: to that elif:
[21:15:00] <jepler> other than that, the patch looks minimally disruptive for 2.7.
[21:15:23] <mozmck> I did it that way at first, but that left no default, which probably doesn't matter because the property is limited to 6
[21:15:55] <mozmck> So I'll change it back
[21:16:14] <mozmck> Ok, thanks! I really have to run now.
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