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[00:30:20] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: I diffed git diff origin/liblinuxcnc-ui@{1} origin/liblinuxcnc-ui -- src/liblinuxcnc-ui/command-nml.cc and it looks sane to me
[00:34:46] <jepler> seems like it was halui where I got hung up rebasing, maybe sendMdiCommand ? but that looks fine as you've rebased it too
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[00:45:52] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: yeah, there was a refactor of halui's mdi command sending
[00:46:07] <seb_kuzminsky> to fix a bug with mode-setting, iirc
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[08:19:53] <JSSKangas> Hello
[08:20:36] <JSSKangas> I would need help with linux, Im iplementing my own kinematics model.
[08:21:12] <JSSKangas> and I would need help to get started compiling this C file to linux cnc
[08:21:36] <JSSKangas> Im usin 10.04 and 2.5.0
[08:22:28] <JSSKangas> Do I need sources from linuxcnc, if then where to get it to this old version
[08:24:30] <JSSKangas> I have done C coding, but Im newbie with linux
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[08:51:22] <archivist> I though I gave you all the clues yesterday
[08:52:25] <archivist> thought
[08:52:45] <archivist> what did I miss, or what have you not tried etc
[08:55:58] <JSSKangas> well im really a newbie with linux
[08:56:54] <JSSKangas> I used this: sudo apt-get build-dep linuxcnc
[08:57:24] <JSSKangas> I think it is sources?
[08:57:36] <JSSKangas> but is it correct version?
[08:57:41] <archivist> that just feteches the sources yes
[08:58:00] <archivist> will the the current version
[08:58:02] <JSSKangas> then im trying to get this one comp command to work
[08:58:23] <JSSKangas> ok then I think it wont work
[08:58:36] <archivist> I think its name changed
[08:58:54] <JSSKangas> cause now Im using 10.04 and 2.5.0
[08:59:24] <JSSKangas> is current version intended for what linux version or will it work with 10.04?
[08:59:29] <archivist> later versions should work with minor adjustments to configs
[08:59:50] <archivist> are you getting error messages
[09:00:31] <JSSKangas> I have not got any further that downloaded sources
[09:00:47] <JSSKangas> no im tying to get one C file compiled
[09:01:46] <JSSKangas> Im usin this command fron XYZACkins readme file: comp --install XYZACkins.c
[09:02:02] <JSSKangas> it does inform that comp program not found
[09:02:16] <archivist> it has a new name
[09:02:52] <JSSKangas> ok what is that?
[09:03:54] <archivist> you also need sudo apt-get install linuxcnc-dev
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[09:04:37] <JSSKangas> Ok thank i will do that now
[09:05:39] <archivist> comp should be in there
[09:05:53] <JSSKangas> Processing triggers for python-support ...
[09:05:55] <JSSKangas> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:05:57] <JSSKangas> /var/cache/apt/archives/linuxcnc-dev_1%3a2.5.4_i386.deb
[09:05:59] <JSSKangas> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:06:01] <archivist> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/hal/comp.html
[09:06:14] <JSSKangas> is that normal
[09:06:16] <JSSKangas> ?
[09:06:35] <archivist> I dont think so
[09:07:15] <archivist> !perror 1
[09:07:15] <the_wench> OS error code 1: Operation not permitted
[09:07:47] <JSSKangas> what next?
[09:07:58] <archivist> running as the wrong user probably did you forget the sudo?
[09:08:03] <JSSKangas> no
[09:08:51] <JSSKangas> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/linuxcnc-dev_1%3a2.5.4_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:08:53] <JSSKangas> trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/comp.1.gz', which is also in package nmh 0:1.3-1
[09:08:54] <JSSKangas> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[09:08:56] <JSSKangas> Processing triggers for man-db ...
[09:08:57] <JSSKangas> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:08:59] <JSSKangas> /var/cache/apt/archives/linuxcnc-dev_1%3a2.5.4_i386.deb
[09:09:00] <JSSKangas> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:10:01] <archivist> I bet that is the reason there is a name change someplace along the line
[09:10:30] <JSSKangas> and that means?
[09:11:14] <archivist> I dont know what nmh is, perhaps uninstall that first then try again
[09:11:24] <JSSKangas> ok
[09:13:27] <JSSKangas> there is no nmh installed by ubuntu sofware center
[09:13:55] <JSSKangas> how can I uninstall it?
[09:17:08] <archivist> I do know the name change is after 2.6
[09:18:03] <JSSKangas> Ok will it be easyer just format machine andstart all over again?
[09:20:24] <archivist> that is a windows method!
[09:20:33] <JSSKangas> yeah ;)
[09:20:59] <JSSKangas> Its my method at this point
[09:21:05] <archivist> do some googling, this has cropped up before
[09:21:48] <JSSKangas> Well, all the things in the world only thing that i dont have is time
[09:22:34] <JSSKangas> so I only want quick solution to get my system runing
[09:23:28] <JSSKangas> this time and with my experience with liux faster is to reinstall and start over
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[09:27:08] <archivist> !
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[09:54:28] <JSSkangas> OK back with pure install on live cd
[10:05:47] <JSSkangas> archivist: thanks for help, got it working after reinstall.
[10:06:21] <JSSkangas> It seams that I really messed some things up as I was trying different things
[10:06:53] <JSSkangas> I just installed dev packet and it worked right away
[10:07:01] <JSSkangas> thanks
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[11:11:22] <jepler> weird, kenneth is the guy who *wrote* o-words, I'm surprised he has to ask the mailing list questions about it :-P
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[12:05:40] <jthornton> he might be like me and suffering from sometimers
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[14:46:11] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.7 58ae0eb 06linuxcnc 10docs/html/index.css 03docs/html/linuxcnc-logo-chips.png 10docs/src/index.tmpl Docs: add chips and tooltips * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=58ae0eb
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[17:05:02] <jepler> or think that someone else might have changed it in the intervening 10 years
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[17:53:27] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 ed2c5c9 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/motion/command.c Motion: indentation fixup * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ed2c5c9
[17:55:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.7 7865bad 06linuxcnc 10src/rtapi/uspace_common.h rtapi: include unistd.h in uspace_common.h * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=7865bad
[17:58:30] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: curious, what platform encountered an error due to missing unistd.h? (not saying the change is wrong by any means)
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[18:40:40] <skunkworks> I remember when o-words was a separate package and I needed direction on how to apply the patch
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[18:51:09] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: i'm experimenting with building motion as a standalong userspace process, that's where i ran in to it
[18:52:02] <skunkworks> I think machinekit is doing that now.. (iirc - you have to load motion in the hal file..)
[18:52:14] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: interesting
[18:52:54] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: we load motion in the halfile too
[18:52:58] <seb_kuzminsky> always have
[18:53:29] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: the goal is to feed emcmot commands and hal pokings to motion, and verify the output in unit tests
[18:54:46] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: interesting
[18:56:27] <jepler> hm, I found this in one of my local branches
http://pastie.org/10250567
[18:56:32] <seb_kuzminsky> i've been fumbling with it for months, hence these commits from february and march, finally rebased & cleaned up
[18:56:38] <jepler> it removes some of the steps of setting up hm2_eth
[18:57:04] <seb_kuzminsky> nice
[18:57:57] <jepler> I recall that it worked for me..
[18:59:09] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: anyway, please consider for inclusion in 2.7
[18:59:31] <skunkworks> mozmck would love that I bet...
[19:00:20] <jepler> maybe I should ask him to test with it
[19:00:48] <jepler> mozmck: ^^^
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[19:01:52] <jepler> my next change didn't work so good
[19:01:52] <jepler> rtapi_app: caught signal 11 - dumping core
[19:03:51] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky: oh - I was thinking loadable TP's
[19:07:37] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks: i think micges was working on that, guess he targetted it for mk instead of linuxcnc
[19:09:12] <jepler> huh and then the next thing to happen is equally inexpicable: a non-terminating loop in 'halcmd show thread'
[19:09:53] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: the patch looks good to me, but probably a test by someone who has an hm2 eth card would be a good idea
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[19:11:52] <jepler> huh something's broken about debugging rtapi_app
[19:12:52] <jepler> using the sudo gdb rtapi_app method
[19:15:15] <jepler> it's like the subsequent non-root rtapi_app invocation can't connect to it
[19:15:20] <jepler> I swear this used to work
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[19:27:25] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: maybe you were drunk?
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[19:29:23] <adam3999> hey guys, when i'm modifying *.ini and *.hal files, is there any way to reload settings without having to completely restart linuxcnc and lose home?
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[19:32:36] <jepler> adam3999: it depends on the change. for example, you can set a parameter to a new value at any time. but you can't e.g., change the number of instances of a component dynamically (so if you loadrt ddt count=3 you're stuck with exactly 3 of them)
[19:33:10] <jepler> there's a calibration gui that facilitates changing inifile values that are used to set hal parameters. I think it's called calibration
[19:33:57] <adam3999> thanks, i saw calibration but seems limited to servos/steppers
[19:34:27] <adam3999> but you're saying changing spindle pwm HAL settings will be reflected live after saving the file?
[19:34:32] <adam3999> as an example
[19:34:48] <jepler> no, changing the inifile won't in itself do anything
[19:35:11] <jepler> what the calibration gui facilitates is changing the values live (as by halcmd setp) and then updating the inifile when the new values are satisfactory
[19:35:49] <adam3999> does calibration do anything more than servos/steppers?
[19:37:07] <jepler> it does whatever it does, and it sounds like you've run it more recently than I have.
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[20:12:36] <jepler> hostmot2: dlopen: /home/jepler/src/linuxcnc/rtlib/hostmot2.so: file too short
[20:13:07] <jepler> so rarely do I lose data in a crash, it's a surprise when it happens
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[20:13:27] <jepler> but .. something's super grumpy on this computer today. actually, I suspect the problem is that I'm using X at its console, something I never do.
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