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[11:18:30] <jthornton> mozmck, http://gnipsel.com/shop/plasma/files/touchoff.ngc
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[11:28:44] <skunkworks> zlog
[11:28:44] <zlog> skunkworks: Log stored at http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc-devel/2015-06-01.html
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[13:29:11] <archivist> a real cnc on a chip real soon? http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150601005864/en/Intel-Acquire-Altera#.VWxaJc9Qeac
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[14:19:31] <pcw_home> Intel manufactured Altera parts a looong time ago
[14:20:07] <pcw_home> (we used their EP900 PLDs for a while)
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[14:27:33] <pcw_home> You could also just as well use a Zynq chip if you want CPU and
[14:27:35] <pcw_home> FPGA on the same chip (and dont needs lots of CPU horsepower)
[14:27:36] <pcw_home> (or just TI ARM with PRU like BBB)
[14:35:43] <CaptHindsight> there we two FPGA cards released recently that plug into the BBB or the RPi, both Altera
[14:36:23] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: did you see the latency with preempt_rt of the ZYNQ?
[14:36:46] <pcw_home> Not recently
[14:38:07] <CaptHindsight> this looks better http://www.wiki.xilinx.com/Zynq-7000+AP+SoC+-+RealTime+-+InterruptLatency+Reference+Design+and+Demo+Tech+Tip
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[14:38:53] <CaptHindsight> the Zedboard tests were >50uS
[14:39:40] <pcw_home> Now that we can retime the position sampling even 300-400 usec latency is acceptable so its not a really big concern
[14:41:35] <pcw_home> (and interrupt latency is rather meaningless for linuxcnc)
[14:54:38] <pcw_home> (at least for servo thread only systems)
[14:56:07] <skunkworks> is this a lot of jitter?
[14:56:08] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/grbl/linuxcncdither.png
[14:57:23] <skunkworks> I just noticed that the velocity in linuxcnc was peaking at 8.8 or more in/sec... (set for 8.3) and it was peaking around that. (software stepgen at 30in/s^2 with a stepgen headroom of 34in/s^2
[15:00:27] <pcw_home> probably dither from beat between basethread rate and step rate
[15:01:24] <pcw_home> with some sampling aliasing added to the mix :-)
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[15:06:33] <skunkworks> I suppose every few ms of jitter probably isn't going to effect motion
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[15:09:23] <skunkworks> it averages out
[15:09:41] <pcw_home> It has some effect on step motor systems. People have been able to get
[15:09:42] <pcw_home> substatially higher rapid speeds with hardware stepgens even if the software
[15:09:44] <pcw_home> stepgen could generate the required step rate. I suspect it has somethin to do
[15:09:45] <pcw_home> with beat frequencies causing resonances at higher speeds when step motor systems
[15:09:47] <pcw_home> have little margin left
[15:10:01] <skunkworks> sure
[15:11:08] <pcw_home> in general though its probably not too important
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[15:13:21] <pcw_home> might be interesting to run the software stepgen output ( at various constant speeds) through a spectrum anaylser
[15:24:00] <pcw_home> That is if you generate a 10.5 KHz step rate from a 50 KHz base thread you will have substantial energy at 500 Hz
[15:24:02] <pcw_home> (in the range of step motor resonances )
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[17:42:17] <skunkworks> sounds like a movie plot!
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[17:57:56] <ssi> right up there with "a monad is a monoid in the category of endofunctors" ?
[18:01:00] <pcw_home> Is that a funk group?
[18:01:52] <cradek> newgrass
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[18:05:17] <ssi> MATHROCK
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[18:26:16] <skunkworks> punkfolk?
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[18:35:12] <skunkworks> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/opensource-software/271966-grbl-logging-linuxcnc.html#post1710758
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[21:49:53] <cradek> skunkworks: mach gives you accel of 139 when you set it for max 30?
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